SDCC 2013 Coverage: Generations Starscream and Scoop, ConstructBots Predaking
Thursday, July 18th, 2013 12:35PM CDT
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Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:39pm CDT
My only gripe it is that the sword(s) no longer form his wing. I hope the intakes fold onto his shoulder for a more accurate look. I'm immediately sold on this guy!
Scoop and pals are looking amazing as well! I would be surprised if we don't get him retooled into Scrapper. He would make a pretty nice Scrapper.
Now bring on Skywarp!
If I were to get Predaking, it would only be for the fact he has the black armor pieces (Seeker torso to boot as well!) I've been hoping for. Now for some purple and brown bits to complete the set...
Posted by GuyIncognito on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:41pm CDT
Predaking looks like a Bionicle (even more-so than the other Constructbots).
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:41pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:I can't tell if Scoop is Deluxe or Scout (Generations Legends) size.
He's supposed to be a Deluxe. That's what we were told back at BotCon.
Posted by Convotron on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:42pm CDT
Armada Starscream looks neat but I don't have a connection to the Armada toys.
Construct-Bots Predaking looks like more Construct-Bot goodness to me so I'm pleased.
Posted by Megazarak on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:45pm CDT
If Armada Starscream has a chance I'm really hoping Energon Scorponok gets a chance in Generations! Hopefully we see more updated Unicron Trilogy characters.
Posted by STINGRAY749 on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:46pm CDT
Scoop looks cool to.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:48pm CDT
Megazarak wrote:Really cool looking Armada Starscream! The swords still coming from his wings is a cool homage even if his whole wing can no longer turn into a sword. I wonder what you can do with those parts on his back?
Wait, what? The swords store inside the wings? I thought they made up what used to be his thrusters in jet mode!
Hopefully we see more updated Unicron Trilogy characters.
This so many times. I'd like to see Red Alert, Demolishor, and Cyclonus.
Posted by CADimusPrimus on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:55pm CDT
STINGRAY749 wrote:That Starscream looks awesome but my one nitpick would be that those colors are not even close to being accurate. I hope those aren't the final colors or I hope Takara's will be show accurate.
I'd say the colors are pretty decent. I wish there was more silver/gray on the legs, and the red was more like this. The red seen here feels like it has a touch of orange.
Posted by Maquese on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:56pm CDT
The ConstructBots don't really do it for me, but that Predaking is nice. I will admit my first thought was G1 Predaking.
Posted by RAcast on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:56pm CDT
STINGRAY749 wrote:That Starscream looks awesome but my one nitpick would be that those colors are not even close to being accurate. I hope those aren't the final colors or I hope Takara's will be show accurate.
Scoop looks cool to.
Besides the black detailing around the intakes on his pecs, shoulders, and the chinstrap, and that the lower legs should be grey instead of black, what's he missing? Looks right to me. It's hardly "not even close."
Posted by Erailea on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:56pm CDT
STINGRAY749 wrote:That Starscream looks awesome but my one nitpick would be that those colors are not even close to being accurate. I hope those aren't the final colors or I hope Takara's will be show accurate.
Scoop looks cool to.
Might just be the camera. Red it one of those obnoxious colors that doesn't like showing up properly / in its rightful hue.
Posted by Megazarak on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:58pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Megazarak wrote:Really cool looking Armada Starscream! The swords still coming from his wings is a cool homage even if his whole wing can no longer turn into a sword. I wonder what you can do with those parts on his back?
Wait, what? The swords store inside the wings? I thought they made up what used to be his thrusters in jet mode!Hopefully we see more updated Unicron Trilogy characters.
This so many times. I'd like to see Red Alert, Demolishor, and Cyclonus.
No, actually I think they're under the wings. I'm basing this assumption on this pic from TFW.
You can see some translucent pieces under the wings which I'm pretty sure are the swords.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:02pm CDT
Maquese wrote:No vehicle mode shot of Starscream? Looks really nice though.
Courtesy of TFW2005:
Hopefully the arms can actually be swiveled to the correct position in jet mode without making too much of a hindrance.
Megazarak wrote:No, actually I think they're under the wings. I'm basing this assumption on this pic from TFW.
You can see some translucent pieces under the wings which I'm pretty sure are the swords.
Yeah, I see it now. I saw the translucent thrusters on the jet mode in another of TFW2005's image set and that's what I assumed.
Awesome that the swords still store in the wings. That's one gripe taken down a significant notch!
Posted by Sabrblade on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:04pm CDT
Posted by Superwheeljack on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:04pm CDT
Cb Predaking doesn't look that bad!
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Screamer's got too much red. He needs more color-contrast like the original toy had. Some more black ought to do it.
Honestly, I feel that he needs more gray than black.
Posted by Va'al on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by Sir Soundwave42 on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:14pm CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:39pm CDT
Posted by YRQRM0 on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:04pm CDT
Still though, so many things wrong! The wing isn't a sword, the colors are off, the null cannons are not mounted on his back in bot mode, gah! I do hope the null cannons can detach and mount on the shoulders since they don't flip like before. Even though their translucence would ruin that look anyways. I didn't really expect a Swindle but he would've been nice too, even if he didn't transform.
Give me more Armada generations! As long as they're highly poseable I'll take them.
Posted by Mkall on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:09pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:13pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Scoop and Starscream are gorgeous! Now what am I going to do with my Cybertron Landmine?
Well, I would say paint it green but we have a Rhinox coming up too!
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:13pm CDT
YRQRM0 wrote:Still though, so many things wrong! The wing isn't a sword, the colors are off, the null cannons are not mounted on his back in bot mode, gah! I do hope the null cannons can detach and mount on the shoulders since they don't flip like before. Even though their translucence would ruin that look anyways. I didn't really expect a Swindle but he would've been nice too, even if he didn't transform.
Well, the swords can store in the wings, so I guess that's a plus. If accuracy is bothersome, it appears the wings can pop off, so if you're keen on displaying him, I suggest having him hold a sword and leaving the traditional left wing off to the side. That's what I'll most likely be doing.
Agreed, the colors are a tiny bit off. More specifically, the legs. They need more silver/gray.
The Armada anime also had his hips silver/gray as well, so I wish they had done that as well.
The intakes appear to fold onto his shoulders, giving him his traditional look. Don't know what to say about the shoulder-mounted null ray cannons.
A Swindle would have been really nice, agreed. We'll just have to see if the official images actually have him.
Give me more Armada generations! As long as they're highly poseable I'll take them.
Agreed on all accounts. I'd love to see them pump out Red Alert, Demolishor, or Cyclonus.
Posted by GuyIncognito on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by dedcat on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:21pm CDT
Or, are we just choosing characters based on infinite repaint potential now?(scrapper, landmine, etc)
Posted by Grahf_ on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:34pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:If you want a figure that looks EXACTLY like Armada Starscream, then buy an Armada Starscream. This is the Generations version.
Indeed.
All the bitching and nitpicking over such trivial details is just disgusting. Then these same people wonder why Hasbro doesn't bother to cater to collectors.
Posted by RhA on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by Metrosuplex on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:40pm CDT
dedcat wrote:Out of all the targetmasters they go with Scoop? Is he some kind of cult/fan favorite that I'm just not aware of?
Or, are we just choosing characters based on infinite repaint potential now?(scrapper, landmine, etc)
LANDMINE! That's who I thought it was... and we just had a Landmine, not too long ago... so I'm really not digging yet another RANDOM construction truck when they could instead (oh, I don't know ) release a proper Devastator? Wait... I forgot - Hasbro is good with third parties covering that!
Also, not feeling SS. I just think he looks a little dinky. The larger Armada SS seems grander.
Alpha Weltall wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:If you want a figure that looks EXACTLY like Armada Starscream, then buy an Armada Starscream. This is the Generations version.
Indeed.
All the bitching and nitpicking over such trivial details is just disgusting. Then these same people wonder why Hasbro doesn't bother to cater to collectors.
UH OH!!! IT'S THE OPINION POLICE!!! Quick, anyone with dissension or criticism, HEAD FOR THE HILLS! Hasbro, as you say, does NOT care to hear complaints. And surely the avalanche of unsold BB's and Optimi will not harm the company financially. Surely. But let's agree to worship all design choices, as beggars worship a crumb of bread. It's not like we could buy a proper Devastator from anyone else...
Posted by GuyIncognito on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:59pm CDT
Metrosuplex wrote:But let's agree to worship all design choices, as beggars worship a crumb of bread.
No one is suggesting that.
Posted by noctorro on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:08pm CDT
My mad ravings have been answered. The Armada Starscream was great, only needed shoulder joints and an extra hip pivot. And Skywarp shouldn't have had a new head. Those 3 were great.
This one has all that and more, cannons can flip down on the back. Hopefully they'll make all three seekers. I'm already in seeker heaven with the upcoming Thundercracker to complete the FOC trio. + Rhinox/Waspinator, good times. No complaints.
But I already forgave Hasbro for anything they'll do the coming 5 years for FOC Starscream/Bruticus and Metroplex.
I'll be getting Scoop to, since I only own a very few Target Masters.
Posted by Grahf_ on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:10pm CDT
Metrosuplex wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:If you want a figure that looks EXACTLY like Armada Starscream, then buy an Armada Starscream. This is the Generations version.
Indeed.
All the bitching and nitpicking over such trivial details is just disgusting. Then these same people wonder why Hasbro doesn't bother to cater to collectors.
UH OH!!! IT'S THE OPINION POLICE!!! Quick, anyone with dissension or criticism, HEAD FOR THE HILLS! Hasbro, as you say, does NOT care to hear complaints. And surely the avalanche of unsold BB's and Optimi will not harm the company financially. Surely. But let's agree to worship all design choices, as beggars worship a crumb of bread. It's not like we could buy a proper Devastator from anyone else...
Not even worth a further retort.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:50pm CDT
It would be sweet if we get more Targetmasters figures in the future, using a combination of Nightstick, Holepunch, and Tracer.
I've also got images of Shrapnel and Reflector (both of which are adorable!) and Skywarp (they got his colors right! WOOT!), I'm just waiting for the right thread to put them up.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:53pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:I've also got images of Shrapnel and Reflector (both of which are adorable!) and Skywarp (they got his colors right! WOOT!), I'm just waiting for the right thread to put them up.
Reflector is a new mold? And what style is Shrapnel based on based on?
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:54pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:I've also got images of Shrapnel and Reflector (both of which are adorable!) and Skywarp (they got his colors right! WOOT!), I'm just waiting for the right thread to put them up.
Reflector is a new mold?
Yeah. I'll PM you the image in just a moment. Prepare your inbox...
Posted by Burn on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:00pm CDT
And they'd also better do five repaints as general releases and not goddamn exclusives.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:03pm CDT
Burn wrote:And they'd also better do five repaints as general releases and not goddamn exclusives.
As much as I don't want that to happen, you know they will.
Posted by Grimlock64 on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:07pm CDT
Armada Starscream! He was my first, and favorite Armada figure! My only gripe is the wings don't transform into the swords anymore, but minor thing!
AND SCOOP!!! He was one of my favorite G1 toys growing up! I want these SO MUCH.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:13pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:16pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for Swindle missing from Starscream, that would put more weight to the rumor it's not Armada Starscream, but rather a new body for G1 IDW Starscream. Repurpose away.
Yeah. I read that most of these new Deluxes are supposed to show up in the "Dark Cybertron" series from IDW. I'd believe it.
Third party companies, begin your contemplation of a mini-Swindle. Seriously, though: I don't own an original Armada Swindle, and if I did, he would look a little too large with Starscream.
Posted by Windsweeper on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:22pm CDT
Nice to see Holepunch and Tracer as well.
Mindmaster, this is the right thread. Please show us Shrapnel, Reflector and Skywarp. I don't think anyone will complain.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:25pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Scoop, my favourite Wrecker!!!
Nice to see Holepunch and Tracer as well.
Mindmaster, this is the right thread. Please show us Shrapnel, Reflector and Skywarp. I don't think anyone will complain.
I feel I should remind everyone Shrapnel/Sharpshot is a Legends, and partnered with Reflector.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:28pm CDT
NOTE: As JelZE mentioned, keep in mind that Shrapnel is Legends sized, with Reflector being the size of the latest Targetmasters.
Also, as an added bonus, here's Tailgate & Groundpounder. Tailgate is based on his MTMTE design.
Posted by craggy on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:31pm CDT
Scoop just looks like an awesome generic orange Autobot construction dude. If/When we get a nice IDW Impactor, or larger sized Origins Megatron, I could see this guy working the Energon mines with them.
edit: Shrapnel and Tailgate will be mine. Loving these new Legends, and the more smaller bots (as opposed to larger bots in smaller scale) we get the better!
Posted by RAcast on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:32pm CDT
BOUGHT.
ON.
SIGHT.
Shrapnel is fantastic too.
Posted by Windsweeper on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:33pm CDT
Legends is the size class that ruins Transformers for me. Bring back Scouts.
Posted by YRQRM0 on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:35pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Here are the official product images for Starscream and Scoop. It appears you can fold Starscream's intakes for a much more accurate appearance (WOOT WOOT):
Thank Primus! Very interesting that the cannons are facing that way in jet mode and robot mode, but hey I'll take it.
If the wings are removable and able to be held, even if they don't fold out into swords, I'll be really happy. But I'm not counting on it.
Also just noticed the ports on his arms. Nice.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:39pm CDT
RAcast wrote:Skywarp and Tailgate.
BOUGHT.
ON.
SIGHT.
I already own WFC/FOC Starscream, and with Thundercracker and Skywarp coming down the pipe, I can rest easy and finally have my first complete Seeker squadron.
I'll more than likely pick up Tailgate, but he isn't a priority.
Posted by RAcast on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:44pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:RAcast wrote:Skywarp and Tailgate.
BOUGHT.
ON.
SIGHT.
I already own WFC/FOC Starscream, and with Thundercracker and Skywarp coming down the pipe, I can rest easy and finally have my first complete Seeker squadron.
I'll more than likely pick up Tailgate, but he isn't a priority.
I picked up Cybertron Swerve a couple months ago (just before they started doing IDW stuff), specifically in case they did a Tailgate, haha. I haven't read much of the comics, but I love the two of them and their nonsense. If I ever convince myself to get around to it, I plan to mod Swerve's head a bit and paint it up to give him a visor. Yeah, I know they also recently revealed a Legends Swerve, but I'm not in love with it.