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Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga

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We thank Sabrblade for letting us know of the latest Takara Transformers manga that we can read.

Below you will find the Takata Legends Blue Big Convoy comic scan and summary, courtesy of user Powered Convoy and TFWiki, respectively:

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https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Legends_Comic:_Bonus_Edition_Vol._EX_(Blue_Big_Convoy)

In a future beyond the 21st century, Cybertron is turned into a technorganic world thanks to Optimus Primal's sacrifice, and with its rebirth Vector Sigma becomes an ultra-computer that governs the planet and creates a new generation of Transformers to protect it. Several of these are "Convoy Type" Maximals, named and patterned after Optimus Primal in honor of his memory, and these end up at the top of Cybertron's hierarchy. However, one of their number—Blue Big Convoy—renounces the notion that Convoys are special and refuses to be part of the Convoy Council, who he accuses of overindulging in the power of their Energon Matrixes. He tells his son, Big Junior, that while he believes peace between Maximals and Predacons is the only way forward, said peace will someday end when the special treatment afforded by Convoys will trigger an uprising by those seeking equality.

Blue Big Convoy and Big Junior fight together in many a battle in defense of peace, until one day when Blue Big Convoy is struck down protecting his son from a force of mysterious energy-seekers. When Junior despairingly asks why it came to this, his father responds that it's because he's a Convoy—a Convoy is nothing special, merely someone who fights to protect others. Before passing away, he asks Junior to take his left arm to replace his own destroyed appendage, then dubs him "Big Convoy" in recognition of his son's ability to protect others as well. Witnessing his father's death because of him leads Big Convoy to adopt a lone wolf nature, unwilling to fight alongside others as he doesn't want them to be hurt. Some time later, while an older Big Convoy is skipping out on Survive's instructions, Vector Sigma summons Great Convoy to tell him the mysterious enemies were likely searching for Unicron's energy. Expecting a new Great War to break out, the computer announces it will prepare for the coming chaos by re-mechanizing Cybertron and asks Great Convoy to focus on educating new recruits.
Credit(s): Powered Convoy

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Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2014093)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 9th, 2019 @ 5:26pm CST
When I first heard about the contents of this chapter, I was initially concerned that it had sounded like Vector Sigma undid the Technorganic reformatting of Cybertron so soon after Beast Machines, as though that show had gone through all the trouble it went through to bring about this revolutionary evolution of the Cybertronian race... only for Vector Sigma to just change its mind afterward.

But now that we have a proper summary, I see now that the undone reformatting instead occurred quite some time later, much closer to Beast Wars Neo, giving it a good number of millennia to take effect before the planet was metalized again.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2014193)
Posted by ebonyleopard on March 10th, 2019 @ 9:55pm CDT
There's something to be admired with how they managed to retrofit these new toys/characters into their respective continuities.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2014879)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2019 @ 10:37am CDT
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Backing up to these two, it appears that we never did get to see the TFWiki summaries for these two here in this thread.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Legends_Comic:_Bonus_Edition_Vol._EX_(Repugnus)
With the Monsterbots revived by Beast Power from the Three Wise Ones' gem forms, Repugnus is reunited with Hedgehog and reveals that he can now perform a Get On by placing the Beastformer in his chest. This transforms him into a new Beastformer Mode with the power to spray explosive hedgehog needles at the Decepticons, causing Smokescreen and Dreadwing to recognize Beast Power as a threat that must be destroyed. Rattrap voices his defiance, recognizing their way of thinking as the very same that caused the destruction of his world, and the Decepticon duo respond by combining and launching a barrage of missiles at him. Repugnus saves the day and defeats them with his MVP Weapon, the Double Jungle Swords, but when he turns around he sees that Galvatron II has taken down Doublecross and stolen the Gem of Fire.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Legends_Comic:_Bonus_Edition_Vol._EX_(Grotusque)
Using the Gem of Fire's power to manipulate Beast's environment, Galvatron II begins causing a natural disaster, all the while elated that he can unlock a beast mode of his own if he gets his hands on all three gems. There are too many Decepticons for Repugnus to handle, so he asks Grotusque to contact Platinum Tiger in his self-imposed exile within the Holography Mirror, a task the self-loathing Monsterbot reluctantly pulls off. He pleads with Platinum Tiger to come back, telling him they can fight their inner demons together, and the Beastformer accepts and returns to form Grotusque's head. Blocking Galvatron's attacks with Platinum Tiger's trademark barrier, the two perform a Get On and unlock Grotusque's Beastformer Mode, granting them the strength to defeat the Decepticon leader and reclaim the Gem. As the Decepticons retreat, Platinum Tiger returns to worrying about the corruption within him, but after being reminded that he was the one who taught Grotusque not to fear himself, he takes his own lesson to heart and agrees to remain on Beast and work on overcoming the curse together with Grotusque.
 
All's not well that ends well, however, as now that the Decepticons have learned of the existence of the gems, someone is very interested...
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016397)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 29th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CDT
Oh, sweet mother of mercy, there have been some major manga updates published for the new Big Powered set.

First, we got not one but TWO online chapters that lead into the toy pack-in issues:

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810119975/comic01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810119975/comic02.pdf

Here are my best interpretations of the two:


Comic 01

In the year 2038, the three components of Violen Jiger, possessing the original bodies of the Powered Masters, work to turn a distant planet into "Unicron Neo", which is based directly on the Beast Wars Neo Unicron toy prototype. This is during the post-G2 era of 2038, during Galvatron II's reign as leader of the Decepticons.

We then cut to a flashback to 2030, during the events of the Train Wars when The Fallen was attacking Cybertron in his design that was based on that of Generations FOC Ruination. G2 Smokescreen is a witness of these events and is in the body that he would have had if his toy had won in the poll that led to Goshooter's new toy getting made instead. Anyway, G2 Smokescreen has some mental problems from the Binaltech GT System (which enabled one Transformer to operate from multiple bodies simultaneously). G2 Smokescreen keeps hearing the voices of GT Units 01, 02, and 08 in his head, which I guess would make him 07 since one of the voices calls him that (these were all numbers that the four variant releases of Binaltech Smokescreen had). This would mean that G2 Smokescreen is actually G1 Smokescreen after having suffered from multiple personalities and turned bad as a result. He then gets attacked by "Double Goshooter" and is knocked away. He wakes up later having been rebuilt into his proper G2 jet body and meets Dreadwing, who gets him up to speed on things.

Back in the present, Unicron Neo appears above Planet Chaar where he attacks the Decepticons. Galvatron II engages Unicron Neo and recalls what he had learned on Planet Beast about the potential of Beast Power (which was shown in the previous manga that advertised Repugnus and Grotusque). Unable to stop Unicron Neo, Galvatron II uses Solitarium to escape, traveling back in time to the 20th Century, when the first Trypticon (from Scramble City) is currently being built, and where he meets G1 Megatron and will go on to have more adventures there as Megatron's City Commander.

Unicron Neo reformats the damaged Dreadwing and Smokescreen in new forms based on their Tokyo Toy Show 2010 toys (which are redecos of ROTF Mindwipe and Skystalker) to make then into servants. They and rest of the G2 Decepticons on Chaar are recruited to serve Unicron Neo. Meanwhile, aboard Broadside, Optimus Prime (in his MP-10 body) and Megatron discuss the Legends World and the possibility of reestablishing the Cybertron Alliance. But Unicron Neo suddenly appears behind them.

Optimus is shocked by this, especially since Unicron was last seen dead in the Triple Z Point. A character from the Generations books, named Screenshot, is also with Optimus. Unicron Neo heads for Planet Zone, and so do all the other Supreme Commanders. On Zone, Violen Jiger attacks all the Micromasters, demanding Energon Z from them. He unleashes Metrotitan, who has undergone the same "Titan Power Up" that Metroplex underwent back during the Metrowars. Galaxy Shuttle goes on the defense, assuming his Zone Base Mode. Grandus and Sky Garry also appear, along with Metrobase, who has likewise undergone the Titan Power Up. The real Powered Masters arrive and Dai Atlas assumes his Zone Base for the Micromasters to use. The Micromasters swarm over Vion while Phaser and Groundshaker, being "G1 Microns" (Mini-Cons) now, use their Targetmaster modes with Roadfire and Sonic Bomber.

The Micromasters then reveal that they used Schaffer Energy with Plasma Energy to make Plasma Schaffer Energy, which they then use to combine into Micron Target Modes with the cry of "Energy In!" (using their Siege toy weapon modes). The Sky Patrol Team (in their United EX bodies) use these new weapons, but Eagle Eye won't help, saying that he's named "Hawking" now.

Unicron Neo transforms into robot mode starts attacking Planet Zone. Then those two weird monster creatures from the Zone opening appear (I'm guessing they came from Unicron Neo) and attack Dai Atlas. The other Supreme Commanders arrive to help. Fortress turns into Fortress Maximus and Cog (in his Siege toy body) combines with him to form Weaponizer Fortress Maximus. He engages Unicron Neo, but Optimus tells him that the Matrix needs to be used to stop Unicron. Suddenly, Mini-Cons appear in their glowing forms from Armada, with Dragoyell explaining that they were the Mini-Con toy collection of Armada Megatron, having since become real Transformers.

Armada Thrust then appears and explains his new membership with the Aerialbots. The Mini-Cons then all combine into the Unicron of Light (colored like the new Encore toy). The Mini-Con Dead End then links with the bulk to use the "Cosmo Springer" attack, blasting a hole in Unicron Neo, who just smiles...


Comic 02

We open with a flashback to 2021, just after the Unite Warriors comics ended with Optimus dying again and Roller looking after his body. Suddenly, a Vok probe appears and steals Optimus's body.

In the present, 2038, the disabled Unicron Neo reveals his true identity: Dark Nova! He defeats the Unicron of Light and explains his origin, which ties all the way back to the Vok! He is actually the two Vok who were killed with Tarantulas in the Beast Wars episode "Other Victories", and have taken eons to revive. As Dark Nova, he took the form of Unicron because he is a symbol to the Transformers (referencing the Vok having taken Unicron's form back in the Beast Wars episode "Other Voices") and created Violen Jiger to acquire the Zodiac energy for himself and to stop the resurrection of Optimus Prime (since Optimus is a symbol of hope for the Transformers). He ultimately wishes to the destroy the Transformers so that the Beast Wars may never come to the pass.

His mentioning the Beast Wars prompts Optimus Prime to mention Optimus Primal (whom he had met previously back in 2004 during the events of RobotMasters). Dark Nova then transforms into his never-used-until-now "Robo Mode" (which was only seen in a catalog image), and unleashes Vok Novaroids on the planet (which resemble Movie 1 Protoform Optimus Prime's comet mode with Vok faces). Jetmaster retaliates with Novabots while the Supreme Commanders fight on. Dreadwing and Smokescreen combine into their Double Jet Mode while Dai Atlas and Roadfire become Land Powered to fight back.

Suddenly, what looks like Universe Razorclaw appears (seemingly from the two monsters from the Zone opening) and introduces itself as a Vok Galaman. It defeats Hot Rod, God Ginrai, and Victory Saber all at once, but Optimus then takes it on using his Matrix's Reconfiguration powers to assume Go-Bot Mode, his Missile Trailer Mode (in which he uses his "Double Wheel Torque Megaton"), and his Battle Convoy Mode. He tries to use his "Seibertonium Sword", but is impaled by Dark Nova. Having expended much of the Matrix's energy, Optimus is tossed aside.

Reinforcements arrive in the form of Eldedroids, with Daniel leading the charge. We then get some information about when Alpha Trion rebuilt Optimus from Orion Pax and when Optimus Primal died destroying the Vok's planetbuster. Shaoshao Li (in her Targetmaster form based on Siege Firedrive) mourns for the dying Hot Rod, but suddenly a Matrix-like device appears inside his chest and revives him as Rodimus Prime (upgrading him into resemble his POTP Leader toy), much to Shaoshao's delight.

More Matrixes appear inside the chests of Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus, God Ginrai, Victory Saber, and Dai Atlas, which are revealed to each be an Energon Matrix! All of them raise each Matrix to the sky, shooting up a massive blast that flies off elsewhere.

We then cut back to another earlier flashback to when Roller joined the Battlestars in finding the missing body of Optimus Prime. They tracked the body to Planet Lucifer, where they met resistance Galaman and Novaroid forces. Roller was killed in the battle, but Optimus's body was found and revived with Zodiac, becoming Star Convoy while Roller became Star Convoy's treaded component.

Back in the present, the Matrix energy blast finds the defeat MP-10-bodied Optimus and strikes him, upgrading him once more into his previous Star Convoy form. He regroups with Dai Atlas and borrows his Zone Powered Cutter to bisect the Vok Galaman. Optimus then turns into his upcoming MP-44 body and uses his trailer to load Dai Atlas as a Drill Rocket. Dai Altas is fired at Dark Nova and penetrates the massive alien's malformed body.

But then Broadside arrives with Soundwave and Weirdwolf, who informs every about something to do with Megatron. Dark Nova then reveals a horrific sight as his head then takes the form of Megatron, becoming the Star Giant once more!





And finally, RobotKingdom has scans of the three pack-in manga issues included with the Big Powered set:

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Roadfire's
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Dai Atlas's
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Due to the low quality of these scans making it very hard to make out exactly what's happening in these three, I'm not going to attempt to summarize these events. But, from what little I can make out of these three chapters (aside from the fact that the Powered Masters simply fight Violen Jiger's Powered Master-bodied components and then go after Dark Nova to try to save Megatron), the combined form of Roadfire and Topspin is "Wing Powered", Dai Atlas combined with Twin Twist is "Drill Powered", and the combined form of all five Powered Masters (Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, Roadfire, Topspin, and Twin Twist) is "Ultra Powered".

Also, it looks like Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire were all originally created by Megatron using Vector Sigma, and were originally "Poweredrons" before they would be called Powered Masters.

And there's something about the Powered Masters' having Powered Engines, and Roadfire has an attack called "Zone Powered Hammer".
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016534)
Posted by RobRobRobRobRob on March 30th, 2019 @ 3:29pm CDT
The Transformers Legends LG-EX Big-Powered Box set has finally been released, and as usual for a Transformers Legends release the figure comes packed with a short manga issue. This time, however, the Legends Manga released two additional full manga chapters to accompany the release! Thankfully for us, fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade has been so kind as to provide an interpretation of these chapters. In addition, our friend was able to discern which figures are featured in the issue, both released-and-unreleased, ranging from the title Big-Powered figures to MP-44 Optimus Prime to even Movie-Style Protoforms. Be sure to take a read below and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers news and reviews.

Sabrblade wrote:
Oh, sweet mother of mercy, there have been some major manga updates published for the new Big Powered set.

First, we got not one but TWO online chapters that lead into the toy pack-in issues:

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... omic01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... omic02.pdf

Here are my best interpretations of the two:


Comic 01

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In the year 2038, the three components of Violen Jiger, possessing the original bodies of the Powered Masters, work to turn a distant planet into "Unicron Neo", which is based directly on the Beast Wars Neo Unicron toy prototype. This is during the post-G2 era of 2038, during Galvatron II's reign as leader of the Decepticons.

We then cut to a flashback to 2030, during the events of the Train Wars when The Fallen was attacking Cybertron in his design that was based on that of Generations FOC Ruination. G2 Smokescreen is a witness of these events and is in the body that he would have had if his toy had won in the poll that led to Goshooter's new toy getting made instead. Anyway, G2 Smokescreen has some mental problems from the Binaltech GT System (which enabled one Transformer to operate from multiple bodies simultaneously). G2 Smokescreen keeps hearing the voices of GT Units 01, 02, and 08 in his head, which I guess would make him 07 since one of the voices calls him that (these were all numbers that the four variant releases of Binaltech Smokescreen had). This would mean that G2 Smokescreen is actually G1 Smokescreen after having suffered from multiple personalities and turned bad as a result. He then gets attacked by "Double Goshooter" and is knocked away. He wakes up later having been rebuilt into his proper G2 jet body and meets Dreadwing, who gets him up to speed on things.

Back in the present, Unicron Neo appears above Planet Chaar where he attacks the Decepticons. Galvatron II engages Unicron Neo and recalls what he had learned on Planet Beast about the potential of Beast Power (which was shown in the previous manga that advertised Repugnus and Grotusque). Unable to stop Unicron Neo, Galvatron II uses Solitarium to escape, traveling back in time to the 20th Century, when the first Trypticon (from Scramble City) is currently being built, and where he meets G1 Megatron and will go on to have more adventures there as Megatron's City Commander.

Unicron Neo reformats the damaged Dreadwing and Smokescreen in new forms based on their Tokyo Toy Show 2010 toys (which are redecos of ROTF Mindwipe and Skystalker) to make then into servants. They and rest of the G2 Decepticons on Chaar are recruited to serve Unicron Neo. Meanwhile, aboard Broadside, Optimus Prime (in his MP-10 body) and Megatron discuss the Legends World and the possibility of reestablishing the Cybertron Alliance. But Unicron Neo suddenly appears behind them.

Optimus is shocked by this, especially since Unicron was last seen dead in the Triple Z Point. A character from the Generations books, named Screenshot, is also with Optimus. Unicron Neo heads for Planet Zone, and so do all the other Supreme Commanders. On Zone, Violen Jiger attacks all the Micromasters, demanding Energon Z from them. He unleashes Metrotitan, who has undergone the same "Titan Power Up" that Metroplex underwent back during the Metrowars. Galaxy Shuttle goes on the defense, assuming his Zone Base Mode. Grandus and Sky Garry also appear, along with Metrobase, who has likewise undergone the Titan Power Up. The real Powered Masters arrive and Dai Atlas assumes his Zone Base for the Micromasters to use. The Micromasters swarm over Vion while Phaser and Groundshaker, being "G1 Microns" (Mini-Cons) now, use their Targetmaster modes with Roadfire and Sonic Bomber.

The Micromasters then reveal that they used Schaffer Energy with Plasma Energy to make Plasma Schaffer Energy, which they then use to combine into Micron Target Modes with the cry of "Energy In!" (using their Siege toy weapon modes). The Sky Patrol Team (in their United EX bodies) use these new weapons, but Eagle Eye won't help, saying that he's named "Hawking" now.

Unicron Neo transforms into robot mode starts attacking Planet Zone. Then those two weird monster creatures from the Zone opening appear (I'm guessing they came from Unicron Neo) and attack Dai Atlas. The other Supreme Commanders arrive to help. Fortress turns into Fortress Maximus and Cog (in his Siege toy body) combines with him to form Weaponizer Fortress Maximus. He engages Unicron Neo, but Optimus tells him that the Matrix needs to be used to stop Unicron. Suddenly, Mini-Cons appear in their glowing forms from Armada, with Dragoyell explaining that they were the Mini-Con toy collection of Armada Megatron, having since become real Transformers.

Armada Thrust then appears and explains his new membership with the Aerialbots. The Mini-Cons then all combine into the Unicron of Light (colored like the new Encore toy). The Mini-Con Dead End then links with the bulk to use the "Cosmo Springer" attack, blasting a hole in Unicron Neo, who just smiles...


Comic 02

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We open with a flashback to 2021, just after the Unite Warriors comics ended with Optimus dying again and Roller looking after his body. Suddenly, a Vok probe appears and steals Optimus's body.

In the present, 2038, the disabled Unicron Neo reveals his true identity: Dark Nova! He defeats the Unicron of Light and explains his origin, which ties all the way back to the Vok! He is actually the two Vok who were killed with Tarantulas in the Beast Wars episode "Other Victories", and have taken eons to revive. As Dark Nova, he took the form of Unicron because he is a symbol to the Transformers (referencing the Vok having taken Unicron's form back in the Beast Wars episode "Other Voices") and created Violen Jiger to acquire the Zodiac energy for himself and to stop the resurrection of Optimus Prime (since Optimus is a symbol of hope for the Transformers). He ultimately wishes to the destroy the Transformers so that the Beast Wars may never come to the pass.

His mentioning the Beast Wars prompts Optimus Prime to mention Optimus Primal (whom he had met previously back in 2004 during the events of RobotMasters). Dark Nova then transforms into his never-used-until-now "Robo Mode" (which was only seen in a catalog image), and unleashes Vok Novaroids on the planet (which resemble Movie 1 Protoform Optimus Prime's comet mode with Vok faces). Jetmaster retaliates with Novabots while the Supreme Commanders fight on. Dreadwing and Smokescreen combine into their Double Jet Mode while Dai Atlas and Roadfire become Land Powered to fight back.

Suddenly, what looks like Universe Razorclaw appears (seemingly from the two monsters from the Zone opening) and introduces itself as a Vok Galaman. It defeats Hot Rod, God Ginrai, and Victory Saber all at once, but Optimus then takes it on using his Matrix's Reconfiguration powers to assume Go-Bot Mode, his Missile Trailer Mode (in which he uses his "Double Wheel Torque Megaton"), and his Battle Convoy Mode. He tries to use his "Seibertonium Sword", but is impaled by Dark Nova. Having expended much of the Matrix's energy, Optimus is tossed aside.

Reinforcements arrive in the form of Eldedroids, with Daniel leading the charge. We then get some information about when Alpha Trion rebuilt Optimus from Orion Pax and when Optimus Primal died destroying the Vok's planetbuster. Shaoshao Li (in her Targetmaster form based on Siege Firedrive) mourns for the dying Hot Rod, but suddenly a Matrix-like device appears inside his chest and revives him as Rodimus Prime (upgrading him into resemble his POTP Leader toy), much to Shaoshao's delight.

More Matrixes appear inside the chests of Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus, God Ginrai, Victory Saber, and Dai Atlas, which are revealed to each be an Energon Matrix! All of them raise each Matrix to the sky, shooting up a massive blast that flies off elsewhere.

We then cut back to another earlier flashback to when Roller joined the Battlestars in finding the missing body of Optimus Prime. They tracked the body to Planet Lucifer, where they met resistance Galaman and Novaroid forces. Roller was killed in the battle, but Optimus's body was found and revived with Zodiac, becoming Star Convoy while Roller became Star Convoy's treaded component.

Back in the present, the Matrix energy blast finds the defeat MP-10-bodied Optimus and strikes him, upgrading him once more into his previous Star Convoy form. He regroups with Dai Atlas and borrows his Zone Powered Cutter to bisect the Vok Galaman. Optimus then turns into his upcoming MP-44 body and uses his trailer to load Dai Atlas as a Drill Rocket. Dai Altas is fired at Dark Nova and penetrates the massive alien's malformed body.

But then Broadside arrives with Soundwave and Weirdwolf, who informs every about something to do with Megatron. Dark Nova then reveals a horrific sight as his head then takes the form of Megatron, becoming the Star Giant once more!

And finally, RobotKingdom has scans of the three pack-in manga issues included with the Big Powered set:

Sonic Bomber's
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Roadfire's
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Dai Atlas's
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Due to the low quality of these scans making it very hard to make out exactly what's happening in these three, I'm not going to attempt to summarize these events. But, from what little I can make out of these three chapters (aside from the fact that the Powered Masters simply fight Violen Jiger's Powered Master-bodied components and then go after Dark Nova to try to save Megatron), the combined form of Roadfire and Topspin is "Wing Powered", Dai Atlas combined with Twin Twist is "Drill Powered", and the combined form of all five Powered Masters (Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, Roadfire, Topspin, and Twin Twist) is "Ultra Powered".

Also, it looks like Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire were all originally created by Megatron using Vector Sigma, and were originally "Poweredrons" before they would be called Powered Masters.

And there's something about the Powered Masters' having Powered Engines, and Roadfire has an attack called "Zone Powered Hammer".
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016537)
Posted by Skritz on March 30th, 2019 @ 4:05pm CDT
There's cross-continuity reference porn and then there's..this. Holy shit. :shock:
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016541)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2019 @ 4:56pm CDT
Everyone who sees this news post make sure you read my provided interpretation summaries very carefully, as things do get pretty nuts in these five manga chapters.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016546)
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2019 @ 5:39pm CDT
Skritz wrote:There's cross-continuity reference porn and then there's..this. Holy ****. :shock:

Everyone is in this comic!!! Even dreadwing and smokescreen. In 2 different toy incarnations!!!!
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016547)
Posted by Skritz on March 30th, 2019 @ 5:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:There's cross-continuity reference porn and then there's..this. Holy ****. :shock:

Everyone is in this comic!!! Even dreadwing and smokescreen. In 2 different toy incarnations!!!!


Man I wouldn't even know where to start when it come to explaining how much continuity references there are, as well as toy designs featured. This is beyond absurd.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016549)
Posted by Optimutt on March 30th, 2019 @ 5:56pm CDT
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Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016553)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2019 @ 6:12pm CDT
More refined summaries of the two online comics from TFWiki:

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Road_to_Legends%27_Revival_Chapter_4:_LG-EX_Big_Powered_Prologue_Part_One
Shortly after hijacking the bodies of the Powered Masters, the Violen Jiger trio conquer a remote planet and put the Powered Masters' abilities as space pioneers to work in reviving "him" by remaking it into a powerful mechanical world to rival the Z Planet—Unicron Neo!

In the 2030s, Smokescreen is cheering The Fallen on during his attack on Cybertron, having gone insane and become a Decepticon after use of the Genetronic Translink System left him with several different minds occupying his body. He is defeated by Goshooter and Shūta while distracted by voices in his head telling him to stop, but is saved and restored in a new jet body by Dreadwing. Dreadwing explains the rise and fall of the Cybertron Alliance that occurred during Smokescreen's slumber and that the inability to end their conflict has made him give up on the future of the Transformer race: he now intends to bring about lasting peace by destroying all Transformers, a goal that Smokescreen sees as his chance for atonement.

In 2038, the two have joined Galvatron II's army, but Smokescreen is defeated again when Unicron Neo attacks them on Chaar. Demanding to know why Unicron has turned on him, being the one to bring him to this world to begin with, Galvatron is told that he serves no purpose given his defeat at the hands of the Monsterbots—his discovery of Beast Power will suffice and Unicron will now acquire that power himself. Galvatron escapes destruction by biting into a piece of solitarium on his person and traveling to the 20th century Earth, where he joins Megatron's army. Unicron Neo turns his attention toward Smokescreen and Dreadwing, reformatting them into new bodies and demanding their loyalty, which they gladly provide in accordance with their goal.

Elsewhere, Optimus Prime has been informed of the Legends World happenings and contacts Megatron, applauding him for his role in creating a world where Autobots and Decepticons built enough trust in each other that they kept it secret for 15 years. Megatron in turn offers to reestablish the Cybertron Alliance so the two factions can rebuild the Legends World, but the conversation is interrupted when the Decepticons are attacked by Unicron Neo. Informed that Violen Jiger has attacked the Z Planet and that Unicron is heading there as well, Optimus Prime departs to Z with Star Saber, Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus and Ginrai to support the Powered Masters already on their way.

In search of Energon Z, Violen Jiger wreaks havoc on the Z Planet together with Metrotitan and the Metrosquad, revived and powered up from resting on Titan, but the Micromasters are hardly defenseless: not only is Galaxy Shuttle similarly revived and stronger than ever, but Sky Garry, Grandus and Metrobase are all present. Dai Atlas arrives and leads the Micromasters in a counterattack, with the small bots swarming over Vion while the Mini-Cons, Micromasters who attained weapon modes in a plasma energy accident, form weapons for Sonic Bomber and Roadfire. The Micromasters have since mastered plasma energy in order to create Schaeffer Energy, which allows them to combine together into new weapon modes for their larger comrades on the Air Patrol. A former member of the team, the traitor Hawking, taunts them and announces the arrival of Unicron Neo, who has acquired Beast Power and now looms over the planet.

Unicron Neo tears into the Z Planet together with his Decepticon loyalists while also spawning new beast warrior minions, though they are dealt with by the handy arrival of Optimus Prime's reinforcements. Fortress gets ready transform the Maximus, causing much concern about his health issues, but he reveals that he's solved them thanks to Cog, his new butler who serves as a life support system by connecting to the Maximus alongside him. The new "Weaponizer Fortress Maximus" takes on Unicron Neo while Optimus Prime prepares to open the Matrix, only to be stopped by the sentient toy Transformers of the Legends World who warn him that the Matrix is a last resort and that they have their own power to bring to the fore. They combine together with the Mini-Cons into what Armada Thrust identifies as the Unicron of Light, a green Unicron that goes toe-to-toe with Unicron Neo and blasts a hole through him with his Cosmos Bringer cannon. However, while Unicron Neo seems defeated, a smirk emerges his face...

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Some ten years after 2021, Roller is informed that Dai Atlas has recovered the Zodiac, the one thing able to revive Optimus Prime, only for Prime's body to be spirited away by a mysterious capsule right in front of him.

In the battle for the Z Planet in 2038, Dai Atlas remembers who was responsible for the theft while also posing as Unicron... it was Dark Nova, who now emerges from Unicron Neo and tears the Unicron of Light apart. Dark Nova explains that he took the appearance of Unicron because it is the thing Transformers most fear, as his people have done before: Dark Nova's true identity is none other than a Vok, and his plan is to eliminate the Transformers now so that their descendants cannot travel back in time and ruin their plans on ancient Earth by protecting the Transformers' symbol of hope, Optimus Prime. For this sake the Vok created Violen Jiger to search for the Zodiac as well as the first Dark Nova, and though that one was defeated, he was just one of two Vok and the second one will not repeat his mistakes.

Dark Nova transforms into planetary robot mode and unleashes Vok Novaroids on the Transformers, who fight back with reverse-engineered Novabots and the successive generations of Autobot leaders present. Smokescreen and Dreadwing remain loyal to Dark Nova as their goals still align, and use their combined mode to clash with Roadfire and Dai Atlas's Land Powered mode. Meanwhile, the two defeated new beast warriors coalesce into a Vok Galaman, an immensely powerful beast warrior who defeats Fortress Maximus, guns down Hot Rod, smashes Ginrai's transtector to bits and manipulates the weather to strike Victory Saber down with a lightning bolt. Optimus Prime won't go down so easily, catching the Vok Galaman off guard by rapidly changing bodies with his Reconfiguration Matrix, but before he can finish the job he's impaled by Dark Nova who absorbs his Matrix energy and discards him. Dark Nova proceeds to dig into the Z Planet for its Energon Z while Violen Jiger presents him with the Zodiac, only to be interrupted by several Eldedroids, mass-produced Optimus Prime-lookalikes controlled by Daniel and Flip Sides. They warn Dark Nova that the very name "Optimus Prime" is a symbol of hope, and even if they fall today, someone like him will always rise and embody his ideals, ready to sacrifice their life in the battle against evil. Inspired by their speech and realizing he's a Prime too, the mortally injured Hot Rod is able to call upon the power of his Energon Matrix and reformat himself into a new Rodimus Prime body. Fortress is spurred on by his brother, Ginrai's transtector is repaired by a Synapse, Victory Saber refuses to fall while his heart of justice still burns, and together the Autobot leaders all release the wisdom within their Matrices towards Optimus Prime.

Years prior, Roller joins the Battlestars to help find Optimus Prime's body, feeling responsible for it disappearing on his watch. He is killed on Lucifer while drawing enemy fire so the other Battlestars can complete the mission, and his remains are placed next to Prime's during the resurrection in hopes that he can be revived as well.

As he lays dying again, Optimus Prime remembers Roller's sacrifice and steels himself to keep fighting just as the Matrix energy reaches him, restoring his Reconfiguration Matrix and allowing him to change into Star Convoy with a transformed Roller in tow. Dai Atlas gives him a ride to Dark Nova and lends him his Energon Matrix-powered Zone Powered Cutter, which Star Convoy uses to bisect the Vok Galaman. Dark Nova is unconcerned given he has the Zodiac on his side, only for Optimus Prime to turn his trailer into a ramp and launch Dai Atlas like a drill rocket that pierces straight through Dark Nova. There's no time to celebrate, however, because the Decepticons arrive and urge them not to destroy Dark Nova as he has consumed Megatron! Indeed, just like last time Dark Nova combines with Megatron, changing shape to become the Star Giant!
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Posted by bvzxa on March 30th, 2019 @ 7:52pm CDT
My goodness!?!?!!!
I saw the lost protoype mold for BW Neo Unicron...holy smokes call it figure porn lol!! I must get this set no more questions, no more talk!!!
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016563)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on March 30th, 2019 @ 8:25pm CDT
Calling it now: next chapter will have Q-Transformers, Animated, Aligned, Car Robots, and Cyberverse characters show up. Also, is there a previous chapter explaining why Shaoshao is suddenly in her Siege styled body instead of her original Legends body?
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2019 @ 8:32pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Calling it now: next chapter will have Q-Transformers, Animated, Aligned, Car Robots, and Cyberverse characters show up. Also, is there a previous chapter explaining why Shaoshao is suddenly in her Siege styled body instead of her original Legends body?
Nope. We're just supposed to assume that either A) her Targetmaster suit got an upgrade between chapters, or B) it's meant to be the same suit but is just drawn to look like the Siege toy instead for the purpose of advertising the newest toy.

Similarly to Option B, all the vintage Micromasters present are drawn to look like their old 1990s Zone cartoon/toy designs, and only get drawn like their Siege toy designs when they assume the combined weapon modes of the Siege toys.
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Posted by TulioDude on March 30th, 2019 @ 10:18pm CDT
Yay!Star Convoy got to do something outside of those storypages.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2016572)
Posted by Albatross250 on March 31st, 2019 @ 12:01am CDT
Dark Nova consumed Megatron again?

Also what happened to Roller? did he became Micro Carrier and can speak?

was a bit confused at that part. 8-}
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2019 @ 6:59am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:Dark Nova consumed Megatron again?
Looking back over the two prologue chapters, I think I got this figured out. I initially thought that Optimus was aboard Broadside's jet mode, but it was actually Megatron and his crew who were, with Optimus instead being aboard Battleship Maximus. This means that Dark Nova must have taken Megatron when he, disguised as Unicron Neo, appeared behind Broadside and attacked him then.

This also explains how and why Optimus gets to Planet Zone long before Broadside finally shows up with Soundwave's group.

Albatross250 wrote:Also what happened to Roller? did he became Micro Carrier and can speak?

was a bit confused at that part. 8-}
The bits with Roller are flashbacks set years earlier during the beginning of the Return of Convoy fiction, when Optimus's dead body was stolen by the first Dark Nova. Roller accompanied the Battlestars in recovering Prime's body, but got himself killed in the process. His remains were laid next to Optimus as Sky Garry revived them both with Zodiac, turning Optimus into Star Convoy and Roller into the Micro Carrier.
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Posted by Skritz on March 31st, 2019 @ 11:37am CDT
Man all this insanity make me wish Transformers had anime again. Sure, it wouldn't be as niche or as nerdy but this kind of manic super robot style is something I've come to realize that I miss after years of decrying it circa the Unicron Trilogy, which was the time I was off Transformers and only caught glimpses of Energon on TV after looking at RID 2001 and going 'this is weird and kiddy'. >:oP

Now here I am wishing Legends EX and other insanities had an anime so we could see G1 Optimus, Rodimus Prime, God Ginrai, Victory Saber,(maybe?) Optimal Optimus and Dai Atlas shouting hot blooded nonsense against some derpy villain.
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Posted by X43 on March 31st, 2019 @ 1:56pm CDT
Not sure what's going on in this comic, but OMG I LOVE IT!!!!

This comic is crazy super Funtime!!!

:SG-BOTS: :SG-CONS: :BOT: :CON:
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Posted by Skritz on March 31st, 2019 @ 8:50pm CDT
I've been wondering, given that the Legends manga showed things such as the Overlord Tera 'combination' made from two Overlord and given that Roadfire is a TR jumpstarter retool does it mean these combinations can be done in toy form using the shared engineering?

If so then two of my favorite TR deluxes got even better. :-D
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2019 @ 9:00pm CDT
Skritz wrote:I've been wondering, given that the Legends manga showed things such as the Overlord Tera 'combination' made from two Overlord and given that Roadfire is a TR jumpstarter retool does it mean these combinations can be done in toy form using the shared engineering?

If so then two of my favorite TR deluxes got even better. :-D
Ultra Powered is doable. I'll post a pic of it in the toy thread.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2019 @ 11:29pm CDT
And with these prologue comics, we finally have a name for those two weird monster creatures that appeared in the Zone opening.

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They are... "shin yajū senshi" (新野獣戦士), which in English simply means... "new beast warriors".

That's all, folks.
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Posted by Coptur on April 1st, 2019 @ 4:12am CDT
I do enjoy these continued Japanese stories but with all the mental gymnastics needed to read and understand them I always need to lay down afterwards lol


lol "New Beast Warriors"
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Posted by Big Grim on April 1st, 2019 @ 6:43am CDT
Gotta admit, was pleased to see Razorclaw there. If they every re-released that deco, I'd buy one in a shot!
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 1st, 2019 @ 6:16pm CDT
I'm continually impressed with the ability to put so much into a story and make it so bonkers but it works! Great stuff.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2017539)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2019 @ 10:31pm CDT
So, basically, after decades of having no backstory, Dark Nova (who was the main big bad of 1991's Return of Convoy series, in which he was just a generically-evil Unicron-esque robotic alien who basically resembled a giant floating face with tentacles) is finally given both a backstory and a motivation for his being evil.

And what is this backstory that we learn about him? That he's one of the Vok from Beast Wars, and that he wishes to destroy the Autobots to prevent their descendants, the Maximals, from coming to exist in order to stop the Beast Wars from ever happening, so as to prevent the Beast Wars from interfering with the Vok's still very vague experiment that they were conducting on prehistoric Earth.

So, technically, from one way to look at this, Dark Nova is the living incarnation of "Trukk not Munky!" taken to the ultimate extreme. :P
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Posted by william-james88 on April 1st, 2019 @ 10:36pm CDT
Yeah, i still dont know what the Vok were all about in beast wars
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2017541)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2019 @ 10:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Yeah, i still dont know what the Vok were all about in beast wars
Yeah that's one thing Bob and Larry didn't nail down in their "making it up as we go along" style of writing for Beast Wars. They made the aliens so enigmatic and ever-changing in their objectives that very little about the Vok made much sense at all when looking at the bigger picture.

I can only imagine how the Japanese dub even bothered to handle them, what with how that dub handled the rest of the Beast Wars cast.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2017546)
Posted by Skritz on April 1st, 2019 @ 10:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So, basically, after decades of having no backstory, Dark Nova (who was the main big bad of 1991's Return of Convoy series, in which he was just a generically-evil Unicron-esque robotic alien who basically resembled a giant floating face with tentacles) is finally given both a backstory and a motivation for his being evil.

And what is this backstory that we learn about him? That he's one of the Vok from Beast Wars, and that he wishes to destroy the Autobots to prevent their descendants, the Maximals, from coming to exist in order to stop the Beast Wars from ever happening, so as to prevent the Beast Wars from interfering with the Vok's still very vague experiment that they were conducting on prehistoric Earth.

So, technically, from one way to look at this, Dark Nova is the living incarnation of "Trukk not Munky!" taken to the ultimate extreme. :P


It might be convoluted but at least its an actual backstory and one tied to all three major fragments of Generation 1 Cartoon Continuity: US Toon, JP Anime and Beast Wars. Not only that but Dark Nova's only identity was 'generic discount Unicron' who just sort of existed and was oh-so-mysterous because no one bothered to give him an origin. Now we know how to explain this because there is a precedent in BW for the Vok using the imagery of the chaos-bringer. Fanwanky explanation? Oh hell yes. But I find its a rather well thought-out and it connect two parts of the franchise you'd normally not expect to end up connect.

I gotta say I'm increasingly liking how the Legends Manga seem intent to connect all the dots but doesn't try to do with as much of a straight face as Aligned did as it engage in the absurd and the fawanky seemingly not from the stupid fan writer need to make sure everything fit so much as the sheer fun of taking together bits and pieces of lore and TF history that nobody would care about otherwise. :BOWDOWN:
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2017547)
Posted by william-james88 on April 1st, 2019 @ 10:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Yeah, i still dont know what the Vok were all about in beast wars
Yeah that's one thing Bob and Larry didn't nail down in their "making it up as we go along" style of writing for Beast Wars. They made the aliens so enigmatic and ever-changing in their objectives that very little about the Vok made much sense at all when looking at the bigger picture.

I can only imagine how the Japanese dub even bothered to handle them, what with how that dub handled the rest of the Beast Wars cast.

And yet, the show must have been a hit for them going all out on those MP figures.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2019 @ 11:19pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:And yet, the show must have been a hit for them going all out on those MP figures.
The first season was, at least.

Beast Wars Metals tanked in Japan, despite being given the same treatment as the first season. Whereas in the West, Seasons 2-3 are hailed as some of the best (if not the best) animated Transformers fiction of all time.



Skritz wrote:It might be convoluted but at least its an actual backstory and one tied to all three major fragments of Generation 1 Cartoon Continuity: US Toon, JP Anime and Beast Wars. Not only that but Dark Nova's only identity was 'generic discount Unicron' who just sort of existed and was oh-so-mysterous because no one bothered to give him an origin. Now we know how to explain this because there is a precedent in BW for the Vok using the imagery of the chaos-bringer. Fanwanky explanation? Oh hell yes. But I find its a rather well thought-out and it connect two parts of the franchise you'd normally not expect to end up connect.
Oh, I absolutely understand what Sakamoto was doing, here. My only issue with connecting Dark Nova to the Vok is that it doesn't feel like the kind origin that Dark Nova would have been given had he been given one back when he was created, as it relies entirely on a concept that wouldn't have existed for a good number of years later. As such, it kinda makes the idea of "Dark Nova's TRUE origin that he had all along" feel a bit disingenuous.

For a different example of Sakamoto giving a new origin to an old villain whose backstory was always vague, when he created Devil Z's origin, he mostly stuck to information that did exist at the time that Masterforce was being made, and ended up tying Devil Z into the both the Matrix of Leadership and the Quintessons in a way that felt both very plausible and fit seamlessly into the established G1 cartoon lore. The only things he added into this backstory from later series were things that didn't directly affect Devil Z's origin (Beast Machines's originally organic Cybertron) and things that came from a series that was from only two years after Masterforce and which was still building upon the same growing lore that Masterforce was a part of (the Zodiac from Zone).

By contrast, tying Dark Nova to the Vok, while a doable retcon that fits in a functional sense, felt more jarring like an idea that came from left field rather than from something rooted in the preset lore that the Return of Convoy fiction was building upon.

I'm not against the notion. I'm just pointing out how awkward it is in concept.

Skritz wrote:I gotta say I'm increasingly liking how the Legends Manga seem intent to connect all the dots but doesn't try to do with as much of a straight face as Aligned did as it engage in the absurd and the fawanky seemingly not from the stupid fan writer need to make sure everything fit so much as the sheer fun of taking together bits and pieces of lore and TF history that nobody would care about otherwise. :BOWDOWN:
It also helps that the pornographic "humor" pretty much died off after it had, er, ahem, peaked with Octane's pack-in comic.

However, I cannot agree with the notion that this manga isn't "trying to make everything fit", as it absolutely is doing exactly that, by placing numerous particular events into specific years set in and around other Japanese G1 fictions. The two Big Powered prologues alone show us flashbacks set during Return of Convoy, Train Wars, Beast Wars, the G1 cartoon, the G2 fiction, and more.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2017794)
Posted by Lore Keeper on April 3rd, 2019 @ 10:26pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Yeah, i still dont know what the Vok were all about in beast wars

Even though the Vok were not given an origin in the show, they have been shown through 3H and IDW to be an evolution of the Swarm from the Generation 2 comic. This idea originated from Larry DiTillio, one of the show's writers. It's not an airtight origin, but it's the only official one they have (and frankly one I really like).
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2017796)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 3rd, 2019 @ 10:37pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Yeah, i still dont know what the Vok were all about in beast wars

Even though the Vok were not given an origin in the show, they have been shown through 3H and IDW to be an evolution of the Swarm from the Generation 2 comic. This idea originated from Larry DiTillio, one of the show's writers. It's not an airtight origin, but it's the only official one they have (and frankly one I really like).
I think he meant that he (and the rest of the fandom, to be honest) doesn't understand what the Vok's deal was in the show, as in what they were trying to do, exactly, with their so-vague-it's-not-as-important-as-we'd-like-to-think experiment with Earth.

Sure, there's behind-the-scenes ramblings from Bob and Larry about some of the ideas that they had for the Vok that they never got to put into the show, but... they never got to put those ideas in the show. So at the end of the day, the Vok were depicted in the show as merely an underdeveloped enigma.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2018130)
Posted by Skritz on April 5th, 2019 @ 9:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:And yet, the show must have been a hit for them going all out on those MP figures.
The first season was, at least.

Beast Wars Metals tanked in Japan, despite being given the same treatment as the first season. Whereas in the West, Seasons 2-3 are hailed as some of the best (if not the best) animated Transformers fiction of all time.


Make sense given season 1 was a more lighthearted, episodic experience whose weirdness and comedy was 'enhanced' by the comedic dubbing (and people complain about Carl Macek!). Didn't season 2 and 3 get dubbed so long after that Japan had made two lighthearted Beast Wars shows, Second and Neo, to fill in the gaps? This would certainly make the more continuity and drama-heavier remaining seasons look jarring.

Its so weird to think how different BW is to the Japanese side of Transformers fandom.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2018131)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2019 @ 10:05pm CDT
Skritz wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:And yet, the show must have been a hit for them going all out on those MP figures.
The first season was, at least.

Beast Wars Metals tanked in Japan, despite being given the same treatment as the first season. Whereas in the West, Seasons 2-3 are hailed as some of the best (if not the best) animated Transformers fiction of all time.


Make sense given season 1 was a more lighthearted, episodic experience whose weirdness and comedy was 'enhanced' by the comedic dubbing (and people complain about Carl Macek!). Didn't season 2 and 3 get dubbed so long after that Japan had made two lighthearted Beast Wars shows, Second and Neo, to fill in the gaps? This would certainly make the more continuity and drama-heavier remaining seasons look jarring.

Its so weird to think how different BW is to the Japanese side of Transformers fandom.
Yes, Metals was dubbed after Second and Neo were made, due to Takara opting to wait until Season 3 was done in the West so as to have enough episodes for a year's worth, since Season 2 by itself was too short to air for that long in Japan.

Though, while both Second and Neo were rather lighthearted, they did have their fair share of drama in them. For instance, Second gave us the family drama between Lio Convoy and Lio Junior, with the former being kind of a deadbeat dad to a son that he never wanted or even knew about, and couldn't afford to be a father when he already shouldered the heavy responsibility that comes with being a platoon commander fighting a constant war.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2018222)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2019 @ 10:53pm CDT
And now we finally have high quality scans (courtesy of user Powered Convoy) and English summaries (courtesy of TFWiki) for the three pack-in manga chapters included in the Big Powered set.

Seeing as these are to be the final three pack-in manga chapters, they seem to bring the ongoing storyline very close to its conclusion, with the very last chapter likely coming from one more online chapter. But with these three, we get a basic resolution to the current Dark Nova story, and some unexpected turns like the origin of the Powered Masters and the seeming final death of G1 Cartoon Megatron.

Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX 1 Sonic Bomber Chapter
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With the revived Star Giant preparing to feast upon the Z Planet's Energon Z, the Decepticons call out to Megatron to no avail while the Autobots are unsure what to do, being hesitant to risk Megatron's life now that he's back to his senses. Sonic Bomber, however, ignores the deliberations and goes on the offensive together with Moonradar, as his top priority is to protect the planet he helped create and its people, including his daughter Sonic. He rams straight into the Star Giant's palm, but the attack has no effect and he is seemingly crushed by the giant, who proceeds to destroy the cities of the Z Planet with eye beams. However, he emerges unscathed with his transtector transformed into a Zone Mode, revealing that he's carrying a Zodiac of his own!

Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX 2 Roadfire Chapter
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Eons ago, the Zodiac spent all its power inducing the Big Bang and turned into a supermineral that was spread across the newly created universe. One fragment ended up within Earth, where it was detected by Professor Serikawa and unearthed by Dai Atlas, who kept it for the Autobots.

Zodiacs light up not only in the hands of Sonic Bomber but all across the Z Planet, and Dai Atlas reveals that the Powered Masters have since collected all fragments of the original, telling the Star Giant that if he wields the power to destroy, then they wield the power to create! While the wrecked planet is being restored by the Zodiacs, the Violen Jiger trio reminds the Powered Masters that they cannot wield the Zodiacs' true power without their old Powered Engines, something Roadfire is aware of as he vows to take the engines back from their stolen bodies. He combines with Topspin into Wing Powered and Dai Atlas with Twin Twist into Drill Powered, new forms that both catch Violen Jiger by surprise and let them borrow the power of the Jumpstarters' Powered Engines, making short work of Lenja in Sonic Bomber's body. They then transform into their Zone Mode bases and absorb the Zodiac power from the air, infusing it into Roadfire's Zone Powered Hammer which he uses to crush Igern.

Roadfire retrieves his Powered Engine from Igern's remains, splattering himself with energon in the process, prompting Topspin and Twin Twist to agree that while he's a nice guy, he's scary when he gets upset.

Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX 3 Dai Atlas Chapter
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4 million years ago, Megatron creates Dai Atlas, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire as the Poweredrons, a Decepticon unit equipped with unique engines that let them travel across the universe and develop other planets into energy-producing colony worlds. However, upon realizing Megatron is using the energy to conquer and terrorize the people of Cybertron, they abandon the Decepticons and steal their fleet of starships to evacuate the civilians to Paradron, a hidden world they secretly developed. When they return to Cybertron and join the Autobots as the renamed Powered Masters, Dai Atlas tells Optimus Prime of energy signs on the third planet of the Solar System, believing this energy can be used to destroy the Decepticons.

Dai Atlas's unforgiving attitude towards Decepticons hasn't changed to this day, announcing during his battle with Vion that he's opposed to reviving the Legends World if Megatron was the one who shaped it. Vion is pleased that Dai Atlas embraces the endless conflict, confirming the views of Smokescreen and Dreadwing as they watch from afar while Topspin and Twin Twist try to convince Roadfire that peace can be created in the Legends World. Roadfire silently leaves to join Sonic Bomber and Dai Atlas in forming Big Powered to clash with Vion, and even though Dai Atlas draws so much power from his partners' Powered Engines that it harms him, he pushes through and destroys his opponent. On the sidelines, Optimus Prime tells Cain and Akira of Dai Atlas's past as a Decepticon and that his obsession with destroying all evil is atonement for his own sins.

Having recovered his Powered Engine, Dai Atlas sets his sight on destroying Megatron himself, and when the other Decepticons interfere he attacks them as well. Topspin and Twin Twist try to stop their leader and tell him that the Legends World proved that Autobots and Decepticons can work together, only for Dai Atlas to cut their heads off and appropriate their transtectors to use as weapons, their Powered Engines being spares created for Dai Atlas to begin with. Crying out that he will never forgive Megatron for using him to hurt so many innocent people, he begins attacking the Star Giant in spite of pleas from Autobots and Decepticons alike and calls upon Sonic Bomber and Roadfire once more. The addition of the Jumpstarter bodies let them form Ultra Powered, only to discover that the Star Giant has ceased moving: knowing Dai Atlas needs to stay alive and revive the Legends World, Megatron is holding Dark Nova back!

While Dai Atlas is angered that Megatron won't fight back, Megatron requests that he be be killed before Dark Nova absorbs him completely. He tells the story of a deceased friend who sought peace only for Megatron to ignore his wish and wage more war after being consumed by grief and revenge, but since the Legends World was where Megatron finally succeeded in creating the world his friend had wanted, he implores Dai Atlas to rebuild it. The Powered Master proceeds to cut the Star Giant in half, destroying Dark Nova and Megatron, and when he returns to the planet's surface he announces that he will honor Megatron's wish.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021223)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2019 @ 11:28am CDT
Everyone, may I have your attention, please.


In anticipation of their long-awaited release of Beast Wars Neo in subtitled form (see here), Karyuudo Fansubs posted last night a full English translation of the Legends LG-EX pack-in manga that came with Blue Big Convoy.

This manga story serves as a bridging story that connects the end of Beast Wars Returns (Beast Machines) to both Beast Wars Second and Beast Wars Neo, with Page 1 taking place before Beast Wars Second and Page 2 leading into Beast Wars Neo.

While this story was posted in this thread previously with an English summary, this here is a full-blown English translation that makes things all the more easy to understand.

Click each pic to see full size.

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Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021298)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 9:08am CDT
Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade has made us aware of a translation for the manga that came packed with Legends LG-EX Blue Big Convoy. This is done by the same team behind the newly released Beast Wars Neo fansubs which can be found on youtube now.

Sabrblade wrote:Everyone, may I have your attention, please.
In anticipation of their long-awaited release of Beast Wars Neo in subtitled form (see here), Karyuudo Fansubs posted last night a full English translation of the Legends LG-EX pack-in manga that came with Blue Big Convoy.

This manga story serves as a bridging story that connects the end of Beast Wars Returns (Beast Machines) to both Beast Wars Second and Beast Wars Neo, with Page 1 taking place before Beast Wars Second and Page 2 leading into Beast Wars Neo.

While this story was posted in this thread previously with an English summary, this here is a full-blown English translation that makes things all the more easy to understand.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< And, remember, this reads right-to-left. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


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Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021302)
Posted by Big Grim on May 13th, 2019 @ 11:35am CDT
These translations are gratefully received. :)
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021327)
Posted by Lore Keeper on May 13th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CDT
Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021336)
Posted by karyuudo on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:33pm CDT
Not sure, but it could signify having a piece of his father with him at his side.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021337)
Posted by karyuudo on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:34pm CDT
Big Grim wrote:These translations are gratefully received. :)


You're welcome! We felt that including this story with the release of Beast Wars Neo was important as it connects everything together.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021338)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:37pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021341)
Posted by Lore Keeper on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:46pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021356)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2019 @ 6:20pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021376)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:30pm CDT
It's funny. If the Papa arm thing is meant to explain the asymmetry, then it's peculiar that Big Convoy is drawn with his arms obscured from view in the one panel he appears in that is set before he loses his arm. Meaning, we can't even see what he looked like before he lost his arm.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021377)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:30pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021378)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:33pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021381)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:35pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece


Not about the toy, about the fact that we actually have a fictional reason for it after all these years.
Re: Scans of Takara Legends Blue Big Convoy Manga (2021384)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece


Not about the toy, about the fact that we actually have a fictional reason for it after all these years.

Eh, for fun, why not? I wonder how many people didn't even realize Big Convoy was asymmetrical

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