Santiago Cabrera Joins Cast of Transformers: The Last Knight

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:

after the first one i knew these movies were doomed, funny thing is everyone gets worse and worse. U say this movie sounds terrible yet ur stil going to pay Bay money to see it........well thats the problem right there, maybe if ppl like yourself stopped going to see these piles of dung, maybe they would have let go of bay and went another proper direction. As it stands ppl like droves of zombies still go them.

So your saying that people that like them should stop seeing them?

I know the argument that the movie is not out yet has been done to death but it is the case still.

Just because it's likely to be bad doesn't mean it's going to be bad I'm still going to give the movie a chance I mean I give all Transformers media a chance before I say I don't like it.

Deadput wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:

after the first one i knew these movies were doomed, funny thing is everyone gets worse and worse. U say this movie sounds terrible yet ur stil going to pay Bay money to see it........well thats the problem right there, maybe if ppl like yourself stopped going to see these piles of dung, maybe they would have let go of bay and went another proper direction. As it stands ppl like droves of zombies still go them.

So your saying that people that like them should stop seeing them?

I know the argument that the movie is not out yet has been done to death but it is the case still.

Just because it's likely to be bad doesn't mean it's going to be bad I'm still going to give the movie a chance I mean I give all Transformers media a chance before I say I don't like it.

if u like it go see it, its ur damn money. My point was the dude that said it looks like crap, then he says hes gonna see it , just dont get that logic. and yes the chinese love the crappy bay movies and its all about money not good film or art etc. I bet u if the North american box office took a massive hit u would def see changes.........i for one know its gonna be crap cuz they all have been! lol. Im more looking forward to the Combiner wars show

London, Anthony Hopkins, Santiago Cabrera, Merlin! How British can this film get? Are we going to have a teacup scene with the Autobots or humans, talking about how those bloody Decepticons are at it again?

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:London, Anthony Hopkins, Santiago Cabrera, Merlin! How British can this film get? Are we going to have a teacup scene with the Autobots or humans, talking about how those bloody Decepticons are at it again?

Don't worry, they won't be able to achieve Maximum Britishness without cameoing Doctor Who, and the BBC is too classy to let that happen.

They'll only achieve maximum britishness if they don't visit any EU countries

Kurona wrote:They'll only achieve maximum britishness if they don't visit any EU countries

I believe we call that a royal zinger

Also optimalOptimus if you want to see if that stereotype is true, I invite you to our country, I can guarantee you'll be surprised and perhaps a little horrified.

Anyway I doubt that any of that plot involving merlin and Arthur is true, that's just people jumping to conclusions about the title and shooting locations. The Rom theory has more going for it. Speculation is fun though.

Fellow Seibertronian ScottyP has pointed us towards the official Michael Bay Twitter account, through which we have our first look at returning character Drift in his vehicle mode: a black and red Mercedes AMG GT R! Check it out in the mirrored image below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Looks great! These people really wanna sell toys!

Beautiful

Probably trying to bring it closer to both the IDW Drift and RiD Drift in that he now has a warmer red colour rather than a cold blue.

Bye bye Bugatti. We'll miss you.

Can't wait to see the toy

Cybertronians must really like Mercedes cars. This is the fourth movie bot to turn into one.

Not complaining though, it's a very pretty car.

Kurona wrote:Probably trying to bring it closer to both the IDW Drift and RiD Drift in that he now has a warmer red colour rather than a cold blue.

AOE Drift was originally going to be orange and black, but they had to go with blue and black, due to the fact they couldn't find enough orange and black Bugatti's for filming.

Glad to see they finally got their wish.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Probably trying to bring it closer to both the IDW Drift and RiD Drift in that he now has a warmer red colour rather than a cold blue.

AOE Drift was originally going to be orange and black, but they had to go with blue and black, due to the fact they couldn't find enough orange and black Bugatti's for filming.

Glad to see they finally got their wish.

oh, cool

I guess that also explains why RiD Drift is orange and black rather than the AoE blue or IDW white and red.

I think I like the red/orange and black more than the blue

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think I like the red/orange and black more than the blue

They did too considering that was going to be his original colors before they had to make it blue.

Two questions here. Will he retain his triple changer ability? Will they acknowledge the change in alt modes or ignore it. Most likely the latter.

Doctor McGrath wrote:Two questions here. Will he retain his triple changer ability? Will they acknowledge the change in alt modes or ignore it. Most likely the latter.

I hope not, he'll just get a re-colored aoe helicopter release; if they wanted to, they should have upgraded him into a gen springer-style design, then they could re-shell that amazing figure and we could all be happy, but that's clearly not happening with this film

Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

Kapiko Customs wrote:Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

The Tweet said he's still a Samurai.

Great now I'll have a red driftranger to go with the powerdrifters.
With deadlock filling in the black driftranger slot, I'm only missing yellow and green.

Kapiko Customs wrote:Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

Seriously dude?

When was the last time you have seen a Japanese car in an American Blockbuster film?


the latest thing I can think of is Tokyo Drift which was 2006.




Butchering please...

Kapiko Customs wrote:Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

The culture of the characters? The culture of the characters is Cybertronian. Drift has no heritage or culture in Japan aside from the fact that he takes a liking to the culture. That's like saying an American person obsessed with Japanese culture is only ever allowed to wear clothes produced in Japan. That's the stupidest thing ever.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Probably trying to bring it closer to both the IDW Drift and RiD Drift in that he now has a warmer red colour rather than a cold blue.

AOE Drift was originally going to be orange and black, but they had to go with blue and black, due to the fact they couldn't find enough orange and black Bugatti's for filming.

Glad to see they finally got their wish.

They couldn't just painted it on? Or is that too expensive? And ZeroWolf, what do you mean by English culture is a little horrifying?

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:what do you mean by English culture is a little horrifying?

Everyone tends to be a dick, basically

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Epps is a pointless character, and the dude is a lousy actor........wait thats exactly the actors Bay hires! my bad all is right in the world of Bayformers

Yep it's not like Bay has hired any good actors ever!



Oh wait...




Plus Epps was like one of the best humans in the films like seriously it's not like you have to be a popular actor to have a good role I mean look at the new Star Wars movies and it's main actors that weren't returning character.

Kurona wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:what do you mean by English culture is a little horrifying?

Everyone tends to be a dick, basically

This ^

Even before this brexit nonsense the stereotype of the polite, well spoken, stiff upperlip British gentle man was already in tatters. Especially out of London.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Kapiko Customs wrote:Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

The culture of the characters? The culture of the characters is Cybertronian. Drift has no heritage or culture in Japan aside from the fact that he takes a liking to the culture. That's like saying an American person obsessed with Japanese culture is only ever allowed to wear clothes produced in Japan. That's the stupidest thing ever.

Your regular reminder to knock it off with the insulting comments.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Kapiko Customs wrote:Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

The culture of the characters? The culture of the characters is Cybertronian. Drift has no heritage or culture in Japan aside from the fact that he takes a liking to the culture. That's like saying an American person obsessed with Japanese culture is only ever allowed to wear clothes produced in Japan. That's the stupidest thing ever.

I see you "understood " my comment. Never mind....
What I meant is that why not give him "matching" car mode. How about Nissan GT-R It's almost like creating Dino with Lamborghini mode and give him Russian accent.
Hope you get me this time...

Deadput wrote:

Kapiko Customs wrote:Cool! Just don't make him Japanese again with German car mode! Who came with idea that Drift will be Japanese samurai with French Bugatti car alt mode?
I love transformers but seeing Bay butcher the culture of the characters makes me cry!

Seriously dude?

When was the last time you have seen a Japanese car in an American Blockbuster film?


the latest thing I can think of is Tokyo Drift which was 2006.




Butchering please...

Exactly! How about giving him Nissan GT-R mode and for the sake of Soundwave character (who was awesome btw) leave the Benz be?
Just a thought...

Kapiko Customs wrote:I see you "understood " my comment. Never mind....
What I meant is that why not give him "matching" car mode. How about Nissan GT-R It's almost like creating Dino with Lamborghini mode and give him Russian accent.
Hope you get me this time...

That actually brings up a very good question. If Drift is such a Japanophile that he acts Japanese then isn't he more likely to choose a Japanese car as his alt mode over something else? A guy that's absorbing that much of their culture would certainly see Japanese cars as superior, especially when they're just taking on the appearance, not the performance of the car. Seems like a major disconnect in his character.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Kapiko Customs wrote:I see you "understood " my comment. Never mind....
What I meant is that why not give him "matching" car mode. How about Nissan GT-R It's almost like creating Dino with Lamborghini mode and give him Russian accent.
Hope you get me this time...

That actually brings up a very good question. If Drift is such a Japanophile that he acts Japanese then isn't he more likely to choose a Japanese car as his alt mode over something else? A guy that's absorbing that much of their culture would certainly see Japanese cars as superior, especially when their just taking on the appearance, not the performance of the car. Seems like a major disconnect in his character.

Emerje

Yeah, but did any high-end Japanese cars get offered to the movie crew and beat out the nicer European cars? I'm guessing 'no', and at that point, that's really all that matters to them

But I definitely agree with both opinions, it was sloppy character building

It all comes down to the licensing agreement. These movies generate a lot of exposure, so car companies will be climbing over each other to get their cars featured.

Seibertronian Bronzewolf has shared another image from Michael Bay's Instagram account (or his good marketing team, at least) showing what looks to be a set image from the Detroit location of Transformers: The Last Knight, and posters of OPtimus Prime and Bumblebee - it looks like the status quo is still one where Cybertronians are not exactly everyone's favourite thing. Check it out mirrored below, and sound off in the comments about what you think this means for the movie so far!

Well props for the movie not %100 hitting the retcon button. Maybe there'll be some continuity bridging that happens exclusively in non-cannon promotional material. Like all of the other movies.

Interesting, do they hate Bumblebee though? Or he just an alien?

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well props for the movie not %100 hitting the retcon button. Maybe there'll be some continuity bridging that happens exclusively in non-cannon promotional material. Like all of the other movies.

I think it's to late for trying estabilishing something "for certain". Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.

TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.

The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.

The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...

This is very true plus till the movie comes out we won't know what needs explaining from AoE.

Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.

ZeroWolf wrote:Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.

The person that first leaked Squeaks the Vespa long before he(?) was officially announced said the Dinobots will be back in this movie along with smaller Dinobots.

Emerje

Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?

Kurona wrote:Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?

Given how much death and destruction they've caused, why would they be welcomed with open arms?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.

The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...

This is very true plus till the movie comes out we won't know what needs explaining from AoE.

Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.

Thank you beat me to it transformers series was always different with new series being released headmasters, beast wars, rid, armada, prime, animated

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?

Given how much death and destruction they've caused, why would they be welcomed with open arms?

It's pretty much understandable, only so much of humanity would be welcoming if the tfs came in peace from the start, plenty of people would be afraid and start to hate. Just look at more down to earth real examples when people of different races mix. Especially when people believe that just because one small group cause trouble, they all must be trouble.

That's also not counting people using them as scapegoats for other problems.

It would take a large act to get people to look at them without fear but it may never go away.

Also good news about the dinobots

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.

The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...

At least they aren't as bad as the x-men movies with continuity. You gotta shut your brain off to ignore all the problems with those movies.

Randomhero wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.

The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...

At least they aren't as bad as the x-men movies with continuity. You gotta shut your brain off to ignore all the problems with those movies.

I'm suddenly reminded of a quote from Deadpool

Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles

SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles

4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles

4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?

Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter