RUMOR: Transformers Combiner Wars Leader Class: Skywarp Incoming?
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Posted by Seibertron on May 29th, 2015 @ 11:27pm CDT
padfoo wrote:Total thundering Thundercracker awesomeness
Thanks for the great gallery Ryan!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for being part of Seibertron.com
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 29th, 2015 @ 11:51pm CDT
Posted by Samsonator on May 30th, 2015 @ 12:00am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:30am CDT
Samsonator wrote:I'm glad I have no desire to get any of the Leader Class Seekers, otherwise I'd have to get them all...
Waiting for you to come accross CW Leader TC live in store...
Posted by frogbat on May 30th, 2015 @ 7:04am CDT
Posted by Peridot on May 30th, 2015 @ 7:26am CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 30th, 2015 @ 8:36am CDT
Huh... remember how confused we all were to se initial shots of Jetfifre's alt mode? Its CW Prime/Motormaster all over again.Maxine Prime wrote:Was that mold even meant to be used solely for Jetfire in the beginning? It feels like it was always intended to be a Seeker mold IMO.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 8:56am CDT
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:21am CDT
Samsonator wrote:I'm glad I have no desire to get any of the Leader Class Seekers, otherwise I'd have to get them all...
Same
Posted by no-one on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:When I finally have CW Leader Starscream, I will try Jetfire's jetpack and/or all his weapons on him, just to see how that look.
I'd be a little curious to see that too. I wouldn't mind seeing the jet pack painted black on TC either.
I do think that jet mode would look good painted almost any color. Maybe not tutifruti?
Posted by shajaki on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:30am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:38pm CDT
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:Silly wrote:I am actually thinking about forgetting Thundercracker and just getting Starscream when he comes out. Because if you know me, I only need one of a mold.
That's a fair call BUT ... just like the Datsun boys, the Seeker jets are their own characters, they may share a mold but they're very much individual.
Buy them all. You'll be kicking yourself when they bring Skywarp out. (And they'd better bring Skywarp out)
You'd be happy to hear then that someone has found skywarp on a computer. But since there was never photo evidence, the rumour doesnt hold much water.
Also, I do have a question about this mold being great for seekers. The one part that throws me off is the wings in robot mode. I am used to one set of wings extending out his sides on the back. But with this mold, the wings are more of a canopy that keep going upwards past his shoulders. I didnt mind that for Jetfire but for the seekers, it looks a bit off. Granted, I only saw that when I compared it to the MP. How do you feel about the new wing arrangement? And you dont miss the vents on the side of his head?
But you're looking at him from a nostalgia perspective.
Masterpiece Thundercracker is the Seeker mold of the 20th century. It's the definitive rendering of his cartoon self.
You can have that look in multiple ways, we have already, Robot Masters, Classics ... it's been done.
Now look at CWL Thundercracker again. Remembering what century you're living in. It's still Thundercracker, but he's better designed, his look is updated, yes it's different but it's a GOOD different.
I LOVE this mold for the Seekers. Jetfire can just with the rest of the so-called CW "outcasts". This is his second chance and he's once again failed.
Thanks for your reply, it is a very interesting take. But I am super confused by your thought of Jetfire as a failure. I thought the reasons he was seen as a failure were due to the hollowness and the fake chest, two asoects that remain the same with this used as a seeker mold. So what makes Jetfire a failure while not staining the use of this mold for seekers?
Posted by Shockwave7 on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:42pm CDT
Though I'd REALLY like to see a leader class Thrust done with this mold. I mean - we all like VTOL turbines, right...?
Posted by Moosey on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:48pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:05pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Thanks for your reply, it is a very interesting take. But I am super confused by your thought of Jetfire as a failure. I thought the reasons he was seen as a failure were due to the hollowness and the fake chest, two asoects that remain the same with this used as a seeker mold. So what makes Jetfire a failure while not staining the use of this mold for seekers?
My guess is because of the ones holding the rights to Maccross held them with a iron grip, no TRUE G1 Jetfire can ever be made. Best way to stop any complains is if you take a modern trnasformable Macross toy and customise it into Jetfire.
Because let's face it, the only way to have a defenitive G1 Jetfire is to make a MP one. Something that can never be done.
So, complainers should just STFU and buy the complete original G1 toy if they can never be satisfied by either the voyager Classic or the Gen Leader one. Because unless HASTAK finally own Macross, your dream Jetfire will NEVER be made.
Posted by TreyTable on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 3:04pm CDT
TreyTable wrote:It would be really nice if that mold would be used on the conehead Seekers. I'd love to have a Leader Class Ramjet.
Agreed!
Also Thrust and Dirge!
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 30th, 2015 @ 3:27pm CDT
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 30th, 2015 @ 4:02pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 30th, 2015 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I think I'd have to buy a leader Thrust... hell, also do one in his Armada colors! I'd also buy a Slipstream and Windblade. But none of these boring seekers... they've been done to death before
I am actually working on a voyager sized Slipstream, I am hoping to get a prototype from Shapeways soon.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 6:34pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I got Leader Megatron on Friday and opened it up today. OMG, have you ever heard the phrase about toys not photographing well? Well CW Megatron is the embodiment of that saying, I have yet to see a picture or video that properly captures this toy. For me the biggest in hand realization was the fusion cannon. Like everyone else I rotated it around so the bigger end faced forward, and then quickly rotated it back because it just looked better that way. Sure in 20 years this will be junk because the rubber treads will disintegrate but for now it's awesome. By the by, did the stickers come in the baggie with the card for everyone?
Yeah, I got that dinky derpy sticker sheet in the baggy. Totally NOT worth it. If you want to REALLY pimp out your CW Megatron, spend the price of a deluxe for the awesome Reprolabel set. Hasbro G1 Megatron TRULY become GEEWUN wit it!
http://toyhax.com/mainmenu/for-classics ... atron.html
And for those who think only the cannon is not perfect on Megs and are not willing to buy complete 60$ upgrade kits, me and Skywarp_128 are designing a simple but awesome canon upgrade. I may take weeks or longer, but I'll keep you posted!
Posted by Fuhzimota on May 30th, 2015 @ 6:46pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on May 30th, 2015 @ 7:49pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I got Leader Megatron on Friday and opened it up today. OMG, have you ever heard the phrase about toys not photographing well? Well CW Megatron is the embodiment of that saying, I have yet to see a picture or video that properly captures this toy. For me the biggest in hand realization was the fusion cannon. Like everyone else I rotated it around so the bigger end faced forward, and then quickly rotated it back because it just looked better that way. Sure in 20 years this will be junk because the rubber treads will disintegrate but for now it's awesome. By the by, did the stickers come in the baggie with the card for everyone?
This. Like people, some toys are not photogenic. chuck's response goes to show fellow collectors, (not you chuck) not to be too harsh on preliminary or even high def images on the PC screen. Heck, even in Japanese Hobby magazines (which are rendered much better) to pass judegement on a fig. Devastar especially.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 30th, 2015 @ 7:57pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I got Leader Megatron on Friday and opened it up today. OMG, have you ever heard the phrase about toys not photographing well? Well CW Megatron is the embodiment of that saying, I have yet to see a picture or video that properly captures this toy. For me the biggest in hand realization was the fusion cannon. Like everyone else I rotated it around so the bigger end faced forward, and then quickly rotated it back because it just looked better that way. Sure in 20 years this will be junk because the rubber treads will disintegrate but for now it's awesome. By the by, did the stickers come in the baggie with the card for everyone?
This. Like people, some toys are not photogenic. chuck's response goes to show fellow collectors, (not you chuck) not to be too harsh on preliminary or even high def images on the PC screen. Heck, even in Japanese Hobby magazines (which are rendered much better) to pass judegement on a fig. Devastar especially.
Funny thing, this isn't even the first time that's happened. G1 Star Saber is another example. Pretty much every TF mistransformed to fit in a box too.
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 30th, 2015 @ 8:24pm CDT
Fuhzimota wrote:Am I the only person who thinks the whole in his forehead could be used to add on a conehead-style cap? I need a Dirge Ramjet and Thrust from this mold
I bet you're right!
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:13pm CDT
the head sculpt is pretty damn awesome, dont like the hole in his head, but it would have been cool had the light piping been better.
if ur a seeker fan, def get this guy
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:27pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Fuhzimota wrote:Am I the only person who thinks the whole in his forehead could be used to add on a conehead-style cap? I need a Dirge Ramjet and Thrust from this mold
I bet you're right!
Actually the hole is supposed to be a sensor of some sort, for some reason the modern seekers have those now.
Posted by Autobot N on May 31st, 2015 @ 7:00am CDT
Silly wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Fuhzimota wrote:Am I the only person who thinks the whole in his forehead could be used to add on a conehead-style cap? I need a Dirge Ramjet and Thrust from this mold
I bet you're right!
Actually the hole is supposed to be a sensor of some sort, for some reason the modern seekers have those now.
Actually, its probably for putting in Starscream's crown.
On a different note, has anyone else noticed that the Leader Megatron has a (kind of) gun mode?
If you want to learn more, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMzRNlHTn4
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 31st, 2015 @ 9:47am CDT
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Silly wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Fuhzimota wrote:Am I the only person who thinks the whole in his forehead could be used to add on a conehead-style cap? I need a Dirge Ramjet and Thrust from this mold
I bet you're right!
Actually the hole is supposed to be a sensor of some sort, for some reason the modern seekers have those now.
Actually, its probably for putting in Starscream's crown.
On a different note, has anyone else noticed that the Leader Megatron has a (kind of) gun mode?
If you want to learn more, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMzRNlHTn4
Besides the crown.
That gun mode totally looks like shit.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 31st, 2015 @ 11:23pm CDT
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Silly wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Fuhzimota wrote:Am I the only person who thinks the whole in his forehead could be used to add on a conehead-style cap? I need a Dirge Ramjet and Thrust from this mold
I bet you're right!
Actually the hole is supposed to be a sensor of some sort, for some reason the modern seekers have those now.
Actually, its probably for putting in Starscream's crown.
On a different note, has anyone else noticed that the Leader Megatron has a (kind of) gun mode?
If you want to learn more, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMzRNlHTn4
I JUST WATCHED THAT VIDEO! XD
Maybe you're right about the sensor crown thing, it probably is there for Starscream's crown, but I think they disguised it as a sensor.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 1st, 2015 @ 5:29pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 1st, 2015 @ 5:35pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:BBTS has Leader Starscream up for Pre-order with a release date of June. I doubt it'll be out in June but even July is better than what we thought.
June?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 1st, 2015 @ 5:40pm CDT
SillySpringer wrote:Maybe you're right about the sensor crown thing, it probably is there for Starscream's crown, but I think they disguised it as a sensor.
Actually, the hole in the forehead is a feature of Thundercracker's (and now Starcream's) current IDW design. Since this mold is based on that look, it really has every right to be there. It's just happy coincidence that it can serve double duty as an authentic sculpting detail and a hole to peg in and secure a crown for the eventual Starscream repaint of the figure.
Posted by King Kuuga on June 1st, 2015 @ 5:51pm CDT
SillySpringer wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:BBTS has Leader Starscream up for Pre-order with a release date of June. I doubt it'll be out in June but even July is better than what we thought.
June?
Don't hold your breath.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 1st, 2015 @ 6:17pm CDT
That Bot wrote:SillySpringer wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:BBTS has Leader Starscream up for Pre-order with a release date of June. I doubt it'll be out in June but even July is better than what we thought.
June?
Don't hold your breath.
Why does it say June? I'm confused!
Btw TFsourse also has these guys for preorder.
http://tfsource.com/new-combiner-wars-p ... _by=oldest
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 1st, 2015 @ 6:33pm CDT
SillySpringer wrote:That Bot wrote:SillySpringer wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:BBTS has Leader Starscream up for Pre-order with a release date of June. I doubt it'll be out in June but even July is better than what we thought.
June?
Don't hold your breath.
Why does it say June? I'm confused!
Btw TFsourse also has these guys for preorder.
http://tfsource.com/new-combiner-wars-p ... _by=oldest
Those are just estimates not the actual date they Will be released.
Posted by phantom1592 on June 1st, 2015 @ 7:35pm CDT
Something about the underside of the wings looking all plastic/mold lines or whatever. That checkerboard pattern irks me the more I look at it.
Still, apparently the height and style isn't THAT far from MP... and it's a lot cheaper. (also may be nice to have a bit of difference between Thundercracker and Starscream....
But I just don't know...
REALLY dislike seeing Starscream with a crown... Is that something that was brought back for the comic? or is it still dredging that up from the 30 seconds he wore it in the movie?
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 1st, 2015 @ 7:39pm CDT
phantom1592 wrote:I'm tempted to buy these jets... but there's just something OFF about them. The jets look great, but the robots aren't doing it for me.
Something about the underside of the wings looking all plastic/mold lines or whatever. That checkerboard pattern irks me the more I look at it.
Still, apparently the height and style isn't THAT far from MP... and it's a lot cheaper. (also may be nice to have a bit of difference between Thundercracker and Starscream....
But I just don't know...
REALLY dislike seeing Starscream with a crown... Is that something that was brought back for the comic? or is it still dredging that up from the 30 seconds he wore it in the movie?
#1. Yes Starscream wears a crown in some of the recent comics.
#2. What's wrong with the crown?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 1st, 2015 @ 7:58pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on June 1st, 2015 @ 8:06pm CDT
Posted by phantom1592 on June 1st, 2015 @ 8:18pm CDT
SillySpringer wrote: #1. Yes Starscream wears a crown in some of the recent comics.
#2. What's wrong with the crown?
#1 So noted. at least it has some bearing...
#2 Like I said, the crown to me is a nod to the 30 seconds or so that Starscream acted like a pretentious moron claiming leadership and getting squashed like a bug.
Admittedly, Starscream IS a pretentious moron who's arrogance has always been his downfall... not saying the crown was out of character. But out of all the autobot OR decepticon leaders the only one I can think of went so far as 'crown' himself would be grimlock... and that's not really the intelligence level you want to be compared to
Starscream was a cool design, 2nd in command of the bad guys and first in the field most of the time. He did a LOT of cool things over the years... but that crown is beacon to his most embarrassing moment (even by 80's standards).
The constant insistence to pigeonhole him in that one moment doesn't impress me. Maybe they've done more with the comic.... I don't read it, I don't know. I just hope they are forever removable
Posted by Sabrblade on June 1st, 2015 @ 8:29pm CDT
The Starscream in the comics is currently the ruler of Cybertron (a title he was given by popular vote, no less), so he's earned his crown.phantom1592 wrote:#2 Like I said, the crown to me is a nod to the 30 seconds or so that Starscream acted like a pretentious moron claiming leadership and getting squashed like a bug.
Admittedly, Starscream IS a pretentious moron who's arrogance has always been his downfall... not saying the crown was out of character. But out of all the autobot OR decepticon leaders the only one I can think of went so far as 'crown' himself would be grimlock... and that's not really the intelligence level you want to be compared to
Starscream was a cool design, 2nd in command of the bad guys and first in the field most of the time. He did a LOT of cool things over the years... but that crown is beacon to his most embarrassing moment (even by 80's standards).
The constant insistence to pigeonhole him in that one moment doesn't impress me. Maybe they've done more with the comic.... I don't read it, I don't know. I just hope they are forever removable
And the G1 cartoon Starscream wasn't the only one to crown himself, for there was another Starscream's whose ambitions successfully seized for himself the powers of a god:
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 1st, 2015 @ 10:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Starscream in the comics is currently the ruler of Cybertron (a title he was given by popular vote, no less), so he's earned his crown.phantom1592 wrote:#2 Like I said, the crown to me is a nod to the 30 seconds or so that Starscream acted like a pretentious moron claiming leadership and getting squashed like a bug.
Admittedly, Starscream IS a pretentious moron who's arrogance has always been his downfall... not saying the crown was out of character. But out of all the autobot OR decepticon leaders the only one I can think of went so far as 'crown' himself would be grimlock... and that's not really the intelligence level you want to be compared to
Starscream was a cool design, 2nd in command of the bad guys and first in the field most of the time. He did a LOT of cool things over the years... but that crown is beacon to his most embarrassing moment (even by 80's standards).
The constant insistence to pigeonhole him in that one moment doesn't impress me. Maybe they've done more with the comic.... I don't read it, I don't know. I just hope they are forever removable
And the G1 cartoon Starscream wasn't the only one to crown himself, for there was another Starscream's whose ambitions successfully seized for himself the powers of a god:
Yup yup exactly what I thought of when I saw his crown.
Posted by shajaki on June 1st, 2015 @ 10:11pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 1st, 2015 @ 10:35pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it...
Yeah you can THROW IT AWAY IF YOU DON'T WANT IT. It's not like you pay extra money for the crown! Sheesh people!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 1st, 2015 @ 10:46pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it...
He's like the Transformers' version of Jughead, except Starscream is infinitely more likeable and interesting.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 1st, 2015 @ 10:56pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it...
He's like the Transformers' version of Jughead, except Starscream is infinitely more likeable and interesting.
Lol yeah Starscream is my favorite Decepticon!
Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2015 @ 11:11pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:shajaki wrote:Even when Megatron got a sliver, Starscream was proclaiming he was the new leader. Not only was the crown hilarious, it was incredibly suiting. I wouldn't care if EVERY Starscream came with a crown. Besides, he doesn't have to wear it...
He's like the Transformers' version of Jughead, except Starscream is infinitely more likeable and interesting.
Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2015 @ 11:19pm CDT
phantom1592 wrote:
Still, apparently the height and style isn't THAT far from MP... and it's a lot cheaper. (also may be nice to have a bit of difference between Thundercracker and Starscream....
But I just don't know...
REALLY dislike seeing Starscream with a crown... Is that something that was brought back for the comic? or is it still dredging that up from the 30 seconds he wore it in the movie?
If you dont like Crowned Starscreams, I am afraid this might not be your year because not only are we getting this Leader Starscream but this is finally the year Hasbro releases MP11 for the west, probably with crown and all. So yeah, 2 MP scale crowned starscreams the same year.