Rumor: Hasbro Masterpiece Soundwave and Acidstorm

Bring it. So far, Soundwave is the best mold of the MP line after Grimlock.

This seems pretty quick. I was thinking Sideswipe would hit first.

Also seems weird that a customer service rep would just give out this kind of info.

robofreak wrote:Also seems weird that a customer service rep would just give out this kind of info.

We Aussies are a friendly laid-back lot

Acid Storm, 'ey? Took them long enough

I hope this doesn't mean a MP-11 starscream won't come out here in the U.S.

I just don't get why Hasbro would bother with a character that isn't really all that popular.
I wonder if they would release a sunstorm, if this is true.



I am excited about soundwave!!!
You think hasbro would give us laserbeak and ravage? as opposed to takaras soundwave. Which just comes with laserbeak.

I hope this doesn't mean a MP-11 starscream won't come out here in the U.S.

I just don't get why Hasbro would bother with a character that isn't really all that popular.
I wonder if they would release a sunstorm, if this is true.



I am excited about soundwave!!!
You think hasbro would give us laserbeak and ravage? as opposed to takaras soundwave. Which just comes with laserbeak.

Does someone know why my posts are getting doubled?

Sorry it just bugs me

Now we wait for Toy Fair to see what else will make me react like the guy in the gif.

I went ahead and bought the takara version before the price change and it was the best choice i could possibly make. Sure the U.S. was gonna get it but japan seems to not have something that we have and thats SCALPERS. Folks are gonna waste a bunch of gas for this guy and most will end up paying as much as i did and thats what is sad about this when it should be a good day for such an awesome figure to be coming stateside.

robofreak wrote:This seems pretty quick. I was thinking Sideswipe would hit first.

It doesn't seem too odd to me. Soundwave is a bit more popular than sideswipe.

MP Soundwave in July? Sounds like my predictions of a SDCC exclusive might just be true then. Awesome.

Acid Storm I can care less about, I'm done with MP Seekers unless I can score myself a Ghost Starscream some day.

That's nice, Takara's soundwave is overpriced.
If it only have some nice diecast parts, but for a hollow, light weight piece of plastic that only comes with one cassette, I was thinking really hard on giving up my money or let it pass.

Yea good luck trying to find a US MP Soundwave in stores... I think what happened with the MP-10 will happen with Soundwave, short supplies, insane mark ups, and scalpers driving collectors insane with secondary market prices. Yea good luck to those trying to get the US MP Soundwave. (your gonna need it.)

So soon after the Takara one? That's surprising... but yeah, judging by how hard it was to find Hasbro MP-10, I'm glad I'm getting Takara's.

Acid Storm... if it's true, what a waste.

I'm super-psyched about Soundwave, since I want him badly but don't want to pay import price.

I couldn't care less about Acid Storm. Masterpieces are too expensive for me to buy many of, and since I already have Thundercracker, I have no desire to spend another $80 on a repaint of the same mold.

duo_maxwell_1017 wrote:Yea good luck trying to find a US MP Soundwave in stores... I think what happened with the MP-10 will happen with Soundwave, short supplies, insane mark ups, and scalpers driving collectors insane with secondary market prices. Yea good luck to those trying to get the US MP Soundwave. (your gonna need it.)

Why do you assume that? Yes, they screwed up distribution of the new MP Optimus, but Thundercracker has not been hard to find, and past Masterpieces like Rodimus and Grimlock were in plentiful supply. OP seems to be the exception, so I'm not sure why you would assume that to be the standard.

Can only hope the Acid Storm news is untrue as that would likely kill any chance of a Hasbro Skywarp. Can't imagine Acid Storm moving a ton of units...would probably make Walmart Skywarp look like a best-seller.

Thought I would share my experience finding Hasbro’s version of MP 10. Hopefully it gives some hope to people, since the topic is flooded with pessimists. Back in September I missed the first preorder and I was pissed, because I saw how quickly those preorders wound up on eBay. That made me determined not to buy from a scalper on eBay. I decided to start following the sightings forum on Seibertron. Once I heard Prime was in stores, I started calling. After a week I found three. The first one the guy at TRU would not hold it for me, not sure why (he was kind of an ass on phone.) The two other stores were willing to hold him for a few days. Once I picked one up (100+tax) I released the other one. For a few weeks I checked back on TRU’s site and saw that Prime was restocked a few more times. I even posted it to Seibertron to let people know. In December I saw 3 more in stores. Of course my TRU had marked them up to 149 by then, but it was still cheaper than a scalper. Anyway, the point is you just have to spend a little leg time to find what you want at the price you want. My advice is to just call around or check the site regularly. With a little patience and persistence you will be able to find Soundwave.

Kibble wrote:Can only hope the Acid Storm news is untrue as that would likely kill any chance of a Hasbro Skywarp.

There already is/was a Hasbro MP Skywarp. Did you think they were going to make another so soon?

Lango7 wrote:Thought I would share my experience finding Hasbro’s version of MP 10. Hopefully it gives some hope to people, since the topic is flooded with pessimists. Back in September I missed the first preorder and I was pissed, because I saw how quickly those preorders wound up on eBay. That made me determined not to buy from a scalper on eBay. I decided to start following the sightings forum on Seibertron. Once I heard Prime was in stores, I started calling. After a week I found three. The first one the guy at TRU would not hold it for me, not sure why (he was kind of an ass on phone.) The two other stores were willing to hold him for a few days. Once I picked one up (100+tax) I released the other one. For a few weeks I checked back on TRU’s site and saw that Prime was restocked a few more times. I even posted it to Seibertron to let people know. In December I saw 3 more in stores. Of course my TRU had marked them up to 149 by then, but it was still cheaper than a scalper. Anyway, the point is you just have to spend a little leg time to find what you want at the price you want. My advice is to just call around or check the site regularly. With a little patience and persistence you will be able to find Soundwave.

none of that should be necessary. that seems like a whole lot of hassle to me.

i preordered my soundwave from bbts when it was first put up for preorder, so my order came to $169 with shipping and everything. i'm sure hasbro will release it at $80 or so.. probably more if you consider how high their prices have been rising so quickly. so spending the extra $70 to have it 6 or 7 months early, and the peace of mind of knowing i wont have worry about beating a scalper to a store or having to call each toys r us in my area a bunch of times in the morning is well worth it to me.

but hey, more power to the people who want to save their money but waste their time. lol kidding.

i'm also curious to see how different soundwave will look.. if at all.

Soundwave, duh, hence why I didn't shell out 200$ for one.
and just because the AU get's a 20$ increase, doesn't mean we will.
This will be less the MP-10 at TRU.

Acid Storm? bitching, out of left field, and a different seeker for once.
I'm cool.

Holy hell this year is MP driven for sure.
Good thing, because Beast Hunters is garbage, and I don't want to get bored.

Kind of funny it's Hasbro Australia bringing this up, as they have a habit of importing TakaraTomy stock and selling them as-is (with a few extra stickers on the box that is). Per chance that's the case with Soundwave here?

Now Acid Storm is interesting, what could be running through Hasbro's mind? Or maybe it's actually a future TakaraTomy item sharing MP Soundwave's fate.

RodimalToyota wrote:Soundwave, duh, hence why I didn't shell out 200$ for one.
and just because the AU get's a 20$ increase, doesn't mean we will.
This will be less the MP-10 at TRU.

Acid Storm? bitching, out of left field, and a different seeker for once.
I'm cool.

Holy hell this year is MP driven for sure.
Good thing, because Beast Hunters is garbage, and I don't want to get bored.

Great points!

GuyIncognito wrote:There already is/was a Hasbro MP Skywarp. Did you think they were going to make another so soon?

Did I think they were going to so soon? No.
Did I think Hasbro of all people were ever going to do Acid Storm? No.
Do I want a(n) MP-11 mold of Skywarp? Yes.
Do I give give two shits about MP Acid Storm? No.
Do I expect enough other people to to make it a success? No.
Potentially ruining the possibility of a(n) MP-11 Skywarp? Yes.
Did I enjoy asking myself and answering 50 questions? Sort of...

Kibble wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:There already is/was a Hasbro MP Skywarp. Did you think they were going to make another so soon?

Did I think they were going to so soon? No.
Did I think Hasbro of all people were ever going to do Acid Storm? No.
Do I want a(n) MP-11 mold of Skywarp? Yes.
Do I give give two shits about MP Acid Storm? No.
Do I expect enough other people to to make it a success? No.
Potentially ruining the possibility of a(n) MP-11 Skywarp? Yes.
Did I enjoy asking myself and answering 50 questions? Sort of...

I'm trying to understand your logic.

You said that Acid Storm would "kill the chances of Hasbro making MP Skywarp." First of all, how can you kill the chances of something that already happened? And second, that would seem to imply that you believe there WAS a chance that Hasbro would be making another MP Skywarp in the near future. Even if Hasbro HADN'T made a MP Skywarp recently, I still don't see how making Acid Storm would "kill" any chance of them making Skywarp. Hasbro made MP Starscream and Skywarp, and that didn't stop them from following up with Thundercracker. Thundercracker didn't stop them from making Acid Storm (if this rumor is true). So why would Acid Storm suddenly kill any chance of Skywarp?

GuyIncognito wrote:

Kibble wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:There already is/was a Hasbro MP Skywarp. Did you think they were going to make another so soon?

Did I think they were going to so soon? No.
Did I think Hasbro of all people were ever going to do Acid Storm? No.
Do I want a(n) MP-11 mold of Skywarp? Yes.
Do I give give two shits about MP Acid Storm? No.
Do I expect enough other people to to make it a success? No.
Potentially ruining the possibility of a(n) MP-11 Skywarp? Yes.
Did I enjoy asking myself and answering 50 questions? Sort of...

I'm trying to understand your logic.

You said that Acid Storm would "kill the chances of Hasbro making MP Skywarp." First of all, how can you kill the chances of something that already happened? And second, that would seem to imply that you believe there WAS a chance that Hasbro would be making another MP Skywarp in the near future. Even if Hasbro HADN'T made a MP Skywarp recently, I still don't see how making Acid Storm would "kill" any chance of them making Skywarp. Hasbro made MP Starscream and Skywarp, and that didn't stop them from following up with Thundercracker. Thundercracker didn't stop them from making Acid Storm (if this rumor is true). So why would Acid Storm suddenly kill any chance of Skywarp?

He's greedy for Skywarp and wants all of us to pay the price for another MP Skywarp to clog the pegs for months like the last time he saw fruition.

We don't need this again..

RodimalToyota wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:

Kibble wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:There already is/was a Hasbro MP Skywarp. Did you think they were going to make another so soon?

Did I think they were going to so soon? No.
Did I think Hasbro of all people were ever going to do Acid Storm? No.
Do I want a(n) MP-11 mold of Skywarp? Yes.
Do I give give two shits about MP Acid Storm? No.
Do I expect enough other people to to make it a success? No.
Potentially ruining the possibility of a(n) MP-11 Skywarp? Yes.
Did I enjoy asking myself and answering 50 questions? Sort of...

I'm trying to understand your logic.

You said that Acid Storm would "kill the chances of Hasbro making MP Skywarp." First of all, how can you kill the chances of something that already happened? And second, that would seem to imply that you believe there WAS a chance that Hasbro would be making another MP Skywarp in the near future. Even if Hasbro HADN'T made a MP Skywarp recently, I still don't see how making Acid Storm would "kill" any chance of them making Skywarp. Hasbro made MP Starscream and Skywarp, and that didn't stop them from following up with Thundercracker. Thundercracker didn't stop them from making Acid Storm (if this rumor is true). So why would Acid Storm suddenly kill any chance of Skywarp?

He's greedy for Skywarp and wants all of us to pay the price for another MP Skywarp to clog the pegs for months like the last time he saw fruition.

Like myself and many others, I think he wants a Skywarp in the new MP-11 mold. Has that happened yet? No.

Besides, what chances do Skywarp have of making it to Wal-Mart at this point? MPs have been TRU Exclusives for the last 4 releases (Grimlock, Rodimus, Thundercracker, Optimus) with much greater success. We have Starscream and Thundercracker in the new mold. It's only natural that some fans would want Skywarp to follow.

Acid Storm might delay Skywarp by virtue of being another version of that mold. Not that I mind too much. I love MP-11 molded seekers. I'm excited for Acid Storm, if true. Now I just need MP-11S Sunstorm to go on clearance at BBTS/TFsource already...

Mindmaster wrote:

Now we wait for Toy Fair to see what else will make me react like the guy in the gif.

this. i would buy the shit out of that soundwave. still need me some MP seekers though.

Shut up take my money and give me ACIDSTORM!!!!

To be honest I like having the older skwarp mold...it makes him look more young/immature compared to the mp-11 molds. Some uniqueness on the shelf compared to a string of inevitable seeker repaints our buddies at Has/Tak will gladly provide us with.

By now I just call it seeker syndrome, they will all come with time lol.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Bring it. So far, Soundwave is the best mold of the MP line after Grimlock.

what about mp-10... to many this version of Optimus Prime is the best. i am torn between him and soundwave. though i love my grimmy, hes just not at the top of my list...

Blurrz wrote:MPwave + 5 cassettes plz.

Don't care about Acid, just not interested in MP seekers

This, except the feelings about MP Seekers.

The more the better I say. Soon we will have our fleet of seekers to rain terror down on the Autobots .

Seriously though, Hasbro must include all the tapes, or we will NEVER SEE THEM. I say that if MP 13 occupies the same price slot as MP 10, we SHOULD get the other tapes. The tapes are also the size of the old G1 cassettes so this is not like we are asking much.

If anyone of importance is looking at this thread, make it so. I mean you have a great chance at trolling the community with Rumble and Frenzy ALONE. throwing in Buzzsaw and Ravage won't hurt either.

A Hasbro Soundwave? Hmm... I might pick him up if he comes.

Acid Storm?

XDMan wrote:Acid Storm?

Easy. Just imagine this...



...but colored like this.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kind of funny it's Hasbro Australia bringing this up, as they have a habit of importing TakaraTomy stock and selling them as-is (with a few extra stickers on the box that is). Per chance that's the case with Soundwave here?

Now Acid Storm is interesting, what could be running through Hasbro's mind? Or maybe it's actually a future TakaraTomy item sharing MP Soundwave's fate.

I hope that that is true. I would much rather buy a Takara Acidstorm than a Hasbro one.

I managed to secure myself a custom Masterpiece Acid Storm. I guess he wanted to unload it with the talk of a Hasbro Masterpiece Acid Stom in the works.



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You are bidding on an absolutely awesome Custom Transformers Masterpiece Acid Storm, one of the three legendary Transformer rainmaker seekers and the only one able to not only withstand but control the ability of acid rain to melt and corrode any material unfortunate enough to come in contact with him, Acidstorm is not one decepticon to be messed around with!!!  basing myself on a concept created some time ago, Acidstorm was customized with the highest quality automotive grade lacquer paint available and was modified on his hips to remove that undesirable hip kibble which when fixed not only gives him a more complete and streamlined appearance but better poseability not possible before! Acidstorm was also heavily modified his wings into a new batwing like shape to give him a more menacing look that sets him apart from his seeker brethren, and utilizing a unique method, I was able to replicate a truly awe- inspiring three dimensional acidic corrosion effect across his body,wings and tailfins  with the added benefit of awesome glow in the dark effects to really give a warning message to any autobot that dares come close! just charge it up with exposure to light and watch his menacing effect glow!  he was given several washes with high quality acrylics to bring out detail on panel lines in his body and circuitry details and was also applied with a subtle camo effect on his body that might not be so apparent in the pictures,then again it wouldn't be camo if it wasn't subtle! lol. Finally he was sealed throughout his painting process with Krylon UV resistant matte finish for a very durable and very long lasting paint job, although  while Acidstorm is fully transformable, VERY careful and limited transformation must be done to keep the paint from chipping or scratching, making this figure ideal for responsible adult collectors only. Figure measures about 9-10 inches tall in scale withothermasterpiece and leader class figures, comes 100% complete with instructions as well as custom painted null rays, missiles and base.      

Mindmaster wrote:

XDMan wrote:Acid Storm?

Easy. Just imagine this...



...but colored like this.

Or like this?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kind of funny it's Hasbro Australia bringing this up, as they have a habit of importing TakaraTomy stock and selling them as-is (with a few extra stickers on the box that is). Per chance that's the case with Soundwave here?

Now Acid Storm is interesting, what could be running through Hasbro's mind? Or maybe it's actually a future TakaraTomy item sharing MP Soundwave's fate.

IIRC, they've only done this with 3 MP figures:
MP02, 04 (both at Target) and very oddly, Ghost Starscream (at TRU)
All other MP's: G1 Starscream, Grimlock, Rodimus w/Offshoot, MP10 and MP11 mold Thundercracker have had the Hasbro/US packaging. And considering TRU is the only mainstream/big-box retailer offering MP's, it's a sure bet that whatever the US will get, so will they.

Sinnertwin wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kind of funny it's Hasbro Australia bringing this up, as they have a habit of importing TakaraTomy stock and selling them as-is (with a few extra stickers on the box that is). Per chance that's the case with Soundwave here?

Now Acid Storm is interesting, what could be running through Hasbro's mind? Or maybe it's actually a future TakaraTomy item sharing MP Soundwave's fate.

IIRC, they've only done this with 3 MP figures:
MP02, 04 (both at Target) and very oddly, Ghost Starscream (at TRU)
All other MP's: G1 Starscream, Grimlock, Rodimus w/Offshoot, MP10 and MP11 mold Thundercracker have had the Hasbro/US packaging. And considering TRU is the only mainstream/big-box retailer offering MP's, it's a sure bet that whatever the US will get, so will they.

It's not limited to MP's. DotM Jetwing Optimus Prime was released in Australia a week before his exclusive Japanese release, in TakaraTomy packaging. It's by no means an abandoned practice.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kind of funny it's Hasbro Australia bringing this up, as they have a habit of importing TakaraTomy stock and selling them as-is (with a few extra stickers on the box that is). Per chance that's the case with Soundwave here?

Now Acid Storm is interesting, what could be running through Hasbro's mind? Or maybe it's actually a future TakaraTomy item sharing MP Soundwave's fate.

IIRC, they've only done this with 3 MP figures:
MP02, 04 (both at Target) and very oddly, Ghost Starscream (at TRU)
All other MP's: G1 Starscream, Grimlock, Rodimus w/Offshoot, MP10 and MP11 mold Thundercracker have had the Hasbro/US packaging. And considering TRU is the only mainstream/big-box retailer offering MP's, it's a sure bet that whatever the US will get, so will they.

It's not limited to MP's. DotM Jetwing Optimus Prime was released in Australia a week before his exclusive Japanese release, in TakaraTomy packaging. It's by no means an abandoned practice.

I remember Australia also got a Takara MP Ultra Magnus release too so this may indeed be 50% true. Though the Acid storm color makes my eyes bleed

GuyIncognito wrote:You said that Acid Storm would "kill the chances of Hasbro making MP Skywarp." First of all, how can you kill the chances of something that already happened? And second, that would seem to imply that you believe there WAS a chance that Hasbro would be making another MP Skywarp in the near future. Even if Hasbro HADN'T made a MP Skywarp recently, I still don't see how making Acid Storm would "kill" any chance of them making Skywarp. Hasbro made MP Starscream and Skywarp, and that didn't stop them from following up with Thundercracker. Thundercracker didn't stop them from making Acid Storm (if this rumor is true). So why would Acid Storm suddenly kill any chance of Skywarp?

Did you miss the MP-11 mold part? Did a Hasbro MP-03 mold of Thundercracker ever happen? Think maybe that had something to do with how the 03 mold of Skywarp sold? So the logic is if an Acid Storm MP sells shitty (likely), there's little chance of Hasbro and TRU doing the MP-11 mold Skywarp next. But if TRU was willing to take Acid Storm, they probably woulda been equally willing to take Skywarp...because WTH is Acid Storm to them?

Kibble wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:You said that Acid Storm would "kill the chances of Hasbro making MP Skywarp." First of all, how can you kill the chances of something that already happened? And second, that would seem to imply that you believe there WAS a chance that Hasbro would be making another MP Skywarp in the near future. Even if Hasbro HADN'T made a MP Skywarp recently, I still don't see how making Acid Storm would "kill" any chance of them making Skywarp. Hasbro made MP Starscream and Skywarp, and that didn't stop them from following up with Thundercracker. Thundercracker didn't stop them from making Acid Storm (if this rumor is true). So why would Acid Storm suddenly kill any chance of Skywarp?

Did you miss the MP-11 mold part? Did a Hasbro MP-03 mold of Thundercracker ever happen? Think maybe that had something to do with how the 03 mold of Skywarp sold? So the logic is if an Acid Storm MP sells shitty (likely), there's little chance of Hasbro and TRU doing the MP-11 mold Skywarp next. But if TRU was willing to take Acid Storm, they probably woulda been equally willing to take Skywarp...because WTH is Acid Storm to them?

I get what you're saying. My point is that there was little chance (if any!) of Hasbro and TRU doing a new MP Skywarp anyway.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Kibble wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:You said that Acid Storm would "kill the chances of Hasbro making MP Skywarp." First of all, how can you kill the chances of something that already happened? And second, that would seem to imply that you believe there WAS a chance that Hasbro would be making another MP Skywarp in the near future. Even if Hasbro HADN'T made a MP Skywarp recently, I still don't see how making Acid Storm would "kill" any chance of them making Skywarp. Hasbro made MP Starscream and Skywarp, and that didn't stop them from following up with Thundercracker. Thundercracker didn't stop them from making Acid Storm (if this rumor is true). So why would Acid Storm suddenly kill any chance of Skywarp?

Did you miss the MP-11 mold part? Did a Hasbro MP-03 mold of Thundercracker ever happen? Think maybe that had something to do with how the 03 mold of Skywarp sold? So the logic is if an Acid Storm MP sells shitty (likely), there's little chance of Hasbro and TRU doing the MP-11 mold Skywarp next. But if TRU was willing to take Acid Storm, they probably woulda been equally willing to take Skywarp...because WTH is Acid Storm to them?

I get what you're saying. My point is that there was little chance (if any!) of Hasbro and TRU doing a new MP Skywarp anyway.

Grrr. Stop crushing my dreams like so many stray puppies!!!

For Hasbro Soundwave I will look forward maybe we got the Energon Cube after all for MP Soundwave, but as if for Acidstorm, I would really prefered it if Hasbro took the chance to re-issue MP Skywarp with the new Starscream Mold...

GuyIncognito wrote:I get what you're saying. My point is that there was little chance (if any!) of Hasbro and TRU doing a new MP Skywarp anyway.

Hence the part about the fact they coulda just done Skywarp instead. I'd wager Skywarp would sell a lot better than Acid Storm. Especially if they did it before TT...if TT even does one. But my point remains that Acid Storm would all but kill the chance of a Hasbro Skywarp...

Kibble wrote: But my point remains that Acid Storm would all but kill the chance of a Hasbro Skywarp...

THERE ALREADY IS A HASBRO SKYWARP. THE RELEASE OF ACID STORM WILL REDUCE THE ODDS OF HASBRO MAKING MP SKYWARP AGAIN FROM 0% TO 0%. YOU CAN'T KILL SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY DEAD.

GuyIncognito wrote:I get what you're saying. My point is that there was little chance (if any!) of Hasbro and TRU doing a new MP Skywarp anyway.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Kibble wrote: But my point remains that Acid Storm would all but kill the chance of a Hasbro Skywarp...

THERE ALREADY IS A HASBRO SKYWARP.

You kind of get it - but not really. We want an MP11 Skywarp... chances be damned, we want it! Duh!

GuyIncognito wrote:

Kibble wrote: But my point remains that Acid Storm would all but kill the chance of a Hasbro Skywarp...

THERE ALREADY IS A HASBRO SKYWARP. THE RELEASE OF ACID STORM WILL REDUCE THE ODDS OF HASBRO MAKING MP SKYWARP AGAIN FROM 0% TO 0%. YOU CAN'T KILL SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY DEAD.

AND THERE ALREADY WAS A CLASSICS STARSCREAM...DIDN'T STOP THEM FROM MAKING ANOTHER, SUPERIOR ONE.

'Classics' vs. 'Universe' argument in 3..2..1...

Counter...then call MP-11 Skywarp Universe instead of MP!

If this line is such a cash cow that logic dictates there will be another Hasbro Skywarp, then the release of Acid Storm isn't going to prevent that from happening.