Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Skyhammer Review

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RAR wrote:Also that it is the last season as far as I can tell - not that I can say for certain but like Rescue Bots if it comes back it will do so after having stopped and having officially finished.

Right, it was Rescue Bots that was gonna be cancelled, not RiD

As far as I am aware it's both of them set to end in 2016/2017.

That said they did say something about doing a feature length RID offering - but I have a suspicion that was actually referring to Combiner Force before they hacked it up into little bits.

RAR wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RAR wrote:Also that it is the last season as far as I can tell - not that I can say for certain but like Rescue Bots if it comes back it will do so after having stopped and having officially finished.

Right, it was Rescue Bots that was gonna be cancelled, not RiD

As far as I am aware it's both of them set to end in 2016/2017.

That said they did say something about doing a feature length RID offering - but I have a suspicion that was actually referring to Combiner Force before they hacked it up into little bits.

Rescue bots has already ended. We have had no word on when RiD is ending

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

RAR wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RAR wrote:Also that it is the last season as far as I can tell - not that I can say for certain but like Rescue Bots if it comes back it will do so after having stopped and having officially finished.

Right, it was Rescue Bots that was gonna be cancelled, not RiD

As far as I am aware it's both of them set to end in 2016/2017.

That said they did say something about doing a feature length RID offering - but I have a suspicion that was actually referring to Combiner Force before they hacked it up into little bits.

Rescue bots has already ended. We have had no word on when RiD is ending

The Rescue Bots toyline is still going to continue, at least.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Rescue bots has already ended. We have had no word on when RiD is ending

Reply located here : https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/670035417210298386

Something I just noticed, the Crash Combiner line features two vehicles being "crashed" together to make something. I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about teaching children crashing is cool.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something I just noticed, the Crash Combiner line features two vehicles being "crashed" together to make something. I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about teaching children crashing is cool.

Crashing vehicle toys have been a thing for long time now. The Incredible Crash Dummies, for instance, is a line centered around the gimmick of car crashing.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something I just noticed, the Crash Combiner line features two vehicles being "crashed" together to make something. I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about teaching children crashing is cool.

There no such complaints with the Crash Test Dummies toy lines AFAIK.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something I just noticed, the Crash Combiner line features two vehicles being "crashed" together to make something. I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about teaching children crashing is cool.

Skyhamner doesnt crash together, one just docks into the other's backside.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something I just noticed, the Crash Combiner line features two vehicles being "crashed" together to make something. I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about teaching children crashing is cool.

Skyhamner doesnt crash together, one just docks into the other's backside.

So do Sideswipe and Bumblebee, resulting in a lot fanfic writers screaming for joy

*ahem*

Anyway, I did some looking and that "mini-series" for the Mini-Con Weaponizers still counts as season 2. Season 3 is a full one as announced back in October.

Just to add confusion there seems to be no-info I can find that says the 2017 season is longer than 6 episodes as well.

But the 2 seasons and the miniseries seem to meet the numeric description of the previous pre-release length of 46 eps for the show.

So what we have in 2017 is in addition to that - however long it is. might be nice if someone would actually tell someone one something about their plans for the show or how many episodes there is or even the titles - they have already changed their mind about 2017 being season 4 and now are saying it's season 3 and the 2016 winter run is just a "Mini-series".

It's annoying me a bit as the new eps are supposed to market the new toys - but they are not doing a lot of that.

Anyone wanna make some bets on how long season (they say) 3 (I say 4) is gonna be ?

I'm going with 4 to 6 eps. it might be longer if they tack the 2 muted TV movie concepts together which if they do I'll say 10 episodes.

I'd say it's a bit too early to make guesses at whether the next RiD episodes will be the normal season format or another mini-series/cut-up movie like the Starscream arc. The latter almost seems like it's setting a new standard, though at the same time it's certainly a possibility that it was that way because they had to rush out an advertisement for the new toys that wasn't originally on their schedule (or was differently placed on their schedule). Not a very conclusive answer but from what little we have to go on, all I have to say is "wait and see".

... also, this conversation would probably better be suited to the thread actually dedicated to the animated series rather than the thread for it's toyline

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something I just noticed, the Crash Combiner line features two vehicles being "crashed" together to make something. I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about teaching children crashing is cool.

There no such complaints with the Crash Test Dummies toy lines AFAIK.

There was. The line didn't get pulled but parents weren't buying the toys for their kids. Al Rocker the weather man for the American morning show Today, publicly stated he didn't like the toys.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:There was. The line didn't get pulled but parents weren't buying the toys for their kids. Al Rocker the weather man for the American morning show Today, publicly stated he didn't like the toys.

Its not the only line which encouraged crashing.



And fuck Al Rocker, he felt no pity for Harambe, he should stick to reporting the weather.

Plus, transforming and crashing has been used as a concept before this.
(go to the 1:50 mark)


Moving on, what's with the obsession here about RID being cancelled or not? How does it matter? It got a third season which is where all mainline TF shows have gotten more or less. It will one day end and another one will take its place to keep the brand alive among that demographic.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Madeus Prime has pointed us in the direction of another review, this time for the upcoming wave 2 Combiner Force Crash Combiner Skyhammer! Skyhammer is the fusion of Skysledge and Stormhammer in typical Crash Combiner fashion, and appears to be a pretty good figure with solid colors and a good looking combined mode. The figures themselves will be available soon at retail so keep your eyes peeled for this latest Crash Combiner set!

OMFG! that thing looks terrible! individual modes are just a 1 or 2 step brick!(i'm telling you now.....if Menasor's limbs are that bad....then i'll be giving it a huge miss)

the combined mode is pretty....meh! a kinda Optimus/Starsaber crossbreed.

Sure, the guy is sarcastic in his SkyHammer review. But I guess he haven't tried PrimeStrong nor BumbeSwipe yet. He's yet to see way worse and way sadder.

Because honestly, I think it work very well for SkyHammer and I'll buy it when I see it on the shelves.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Sure, the guy is sarcastic in his SkyHammer review. But I guess he haven't tried PrimeStrong nor BumbeSwipe yet. He's yet to see way worse and way sadder.

Because honestly, I think it work very well for SkyHammer and I'll buy it when I see it on the shelves.

I agree. I think this is the best looking of the crash combiners, and it does look really good and as I have Primestrong, the gimmick is actually really fun

Found these Minicon Deployers at Ross for $8.99.

DestronMirage22 wrote:Found these Minicon Deployers at Ross for $8.99.

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Thanks for the heads up! We did news this about a month ago, but keep us updated with your finds!

Maybe I'm more excepting of these Crash Combiners because I grew up playing with bricks, but they are fun for what they are. The gimmick is so totally G1ish. I completely forgot I was going to hold out for Sky Guy there, but taken by the moment I grabbed Primestrong when I first saw them.
I agree that the gimmick is fun, but I do not agree that they are worth the price paid.
But that could be said for a lot of toys these days.

Thanks to Seibertronian rodimusconvoy13 we have a new sighting for the Combiner Force toyline for you guys to check out. The new figures in question are 3-steps Grimlock and Thunderhoof in new Combiner Force packaging, which as a result includes some sort of action gimmick for each. Thunderhoof appears to be a repaint of his original 3-step version but with darker colors and some sort of gimmick involving a 'hyper hook' while Grimlock appears to be a whole new mold with a 'hyper swoop' gimmick (Dino-pun intended?). These figures were found in a Meijer in Ann Arbor, MI, so head on out and start hunting these new 3-steps!

Combiner Force Windblade review



The new one with the new face mask !!!

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I'm interested to see what the new 3 steps are like the Bumblebee & Optimus are modified or new Mould and I wonder what Thunderhoof's hook is like in a practical sense.

I wonder if they'd make that shark that you can use as a bath toy ?

Still too red.

Kurona wrote:... also, this conversation would probably better be suited to the thread actually dedicated to the animated series rather than the thread for it's toyline

Quite possibly - but that raises an interesting thought - why stop making the shows at all - just keep making them in blocks of 6 that tell a contained story - they can do that with Rescue Bots too and tie the mini-season into the theme of the toys.

The reason I was mentioning it in the 1st places was due to marketing of the toys - as I don't follow the show very closely so I'm mainly interested in it as a means as to how it's related to the Toyline and the way it's sold to us.

RAR wrote:I'm interested to see what the new 3 steps are like the Bumblebee & Optimus are modified or new Mould and I wonder what Thunderhoof's hook is like in a practical sense.

All new molds, I assure you. You can't really replace a gimmick of a toy with a new one. Thunderhoof on the other hand looks like a straight redeco of the 3-Step. What's interesting is that gimmick name has been trademarked.

:EDIT: OK, looking closer, I'm not so sure anymore... looks like they're retools after all.

I wonder if they'd make that shark that you can use as a bath toy ?

Hammerstrike? That would be interesting to see.

Robots in Disguise Hammerstrike Soapy ?

( a soapy is the collectors names for branded character shampoo or bubble bath Bottles in case anyone doesn't know)

It would be vinyl plastic and might even float - I can see that working might even work to some extent with robot mode Bisk and Thermidor too.

I can't see anyone making such a container that isn't someone like Grimlock or Bumblebee unfortunately even though the Aquatic Decepticons would be kind perfect for it.

Another daft idea that such a thing could be put too is to make them split up the middle - have a normal bottle inside and once that is removed use the rubbery shell as a Pretender. Though that might require a lot of close product Marketing to pull something like that off. and then there is the question - what to put on & in the shells ?

Well, I'm currently planning to buy a few NuRiD deluxes, and I'd like to see what the general consensus on these guys is:
Starscream (actually Skywarp, but very few people have him in hand so far, and Scream and Warp are basically the same thing)
Stormshot

Autobot N wrote:Well, I'm currently planning to buy a few NuRiD deluxes, and I'd like to see what the general consensus on these guys is:
Starscream (actually Skywarp, but very few people have him in hand so far, and Scream and Warp are basically the same thing)
Stormshot

I plan to buy Stormshot. I've heard good reviews on him, and he looks good.

The Starscream mold is pretty good too, so you can go for whoever there, but I think Scream wears it so much better

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Starscream mold is pretty good too, so you can go for whoever there, but I think Scream wears it so much better

I've always been a Skywarp man (unless there's a Sunstorm version, of course), and Warp's paint apps look a lot better.

Stormshot is essentially borrowing Firefly's engineering and transformation with a new trick and removed Combining capability (... ironically considering the sub-line) in much the same way TR Chromedome does with Dead End. If you liked the Aerialbots, you'll like Stormshot - especially since he sort of refines their engineering into a better single product as he has no need to sacrifice anything for combination.

Kurona wrote:Stormshot is essentially borrowing Firefly's engineering and transformation with a new trick and removed Combining capability (... ironically considering the sub-line) in much the same way TR Chromedome does with Dead End. If you liked the Aerialbots, you'll like Stormshot - especially since he sort of refines their engineering into a better single product as he has no need to sacrifice anything for combination.

Luckily, I'm certainly a fan of the Aerialbots.

RAR wrote:Robots in Disguise Hammerstrike Soapy ?

( a soapy is the collectors names for branded character shampoo or bubble bath Bottles in case anyone doesn't know)

It would be vinyl plastic and might even float - I can see that working might even work to some extent with robot mode Bisk and Thermidor too.

I can't see anyone making such a container that isn't someone like Grimlock or Bumblebee unfortunately even though the Aquatic Decepticons would be kind perfect for it.

Too bad there's no aquatic Autobots in this show.

(Although if you shove it over to Rescue Bots, Heatwave and High Tide would be good options.)

Hey N, I'm digging Stormshot. He has this real nice old time feel to me. Something about the simplicity and the colors. Just feels like a good ol' Transformer.






His guns are cool looking, and the way they combine is nice.



Only thing I think could be better is his head should have been a ball joint. It's just a swivel, and hard to turn at that. With those shoulder stacks it's also impossible to turn his head 180 in alt mode. His face just sits there in the under carriage of the jet.

Autobot N wrote:Well, I'm currently planning to buy a few NuRiD deluxes, and I'd like to see what the general consensus on these guys is:
Starscream (actually Skywarp, but very few people have him in hand so far, and Scream and Warp are basically the same thing)
Stormshot

The Starscream mold is solid, but the plastic is very soft and I'm concerned about it holding up over time.

Stormshot is awesome, but really stands out in the RID line

Starscream is a great mold, on par with the best of RID with a fresh transformation we havent seen before (which is very impressive when you think of the 30 plus years of seekers) and how his chest is not fake. Like Chuck said, the only problem is the soft plastic used for the wings but thats because its considered a flying toy by Hasbro and has to answer to the drop test.

The Robots in Disguise Combiner team toys are coming! We know the next season will have some four member combiners with the likes of Menasor and a team Bee combiner and we were hoping we would get toys too. Well, a combiner set was found on a Toysrus database, which can be seen below. It gives us a few clues, the biggest being the price point of $50 in Canadian dollars, which is around the $40 USD price point, which is midway between Powersurge Optimus Prime and the other big power Surge figures but nowhere near the price point of a combining team done in a deluxe scale. So what we can expect is either a simplified combiner, like ROTF Devastator (done smaller) or a smaller scale combiner, made up of figures the size of the ones found in the battlepacks. These images were given to us by fellow Seibertronian Megazarak. Let us know what you think!

It's also totally possible that this is a smaller, legends-scale Combiner with it coming in a larger scale and hence larger price later - much like ROTF Devastator.

Kurona wrote:It's also totally possible that this is a smaller, legends-scale Combiner with it coming in a larger scale and hence larger price later - much like ROTF Devastator.

Then again its not far from the price point of 3 legends and a deluxe as a box set. I do foresee this being simlified in some way since I cant think of anything at that price point in RID that wasnt simplified.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's also totally possible that this is a smaller, legends-scale Combiner with it coming in a larger scale and hence larger price later - much like ROTF Devastator.

Then again its not far from the price point of 3 legends and a deluxe as a box set. I do foresee this being simlified in some way since I cant think of anything at that price point in RID that wasnt simplified.

I agree. I do see this as a sort of experiment to see if they can do combiners consistently again after the success of CW.

william-james88 wrote:The Robots in Disguise Combiner team toys are coming!

I can't seem to find it but last week I was looking at a site which contained the wave and assortment info for 2017 in the UK (it mentions Trypticon by name for release in the UK) for example and it had that combiner Force boxed set on the list too - I think it was pretty cheap like £30 or £35.00 if I recall.

I thought I mentioned it at the time.

RAR wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The Robots in Disguise Combiner team toys are coming!

I can't seem to find it but last week I was looking at a site which contained the wave and assortment info for 2017 in the UK (it mentions Trypticon by name for release in the UK) for example and it had that combiner Force boxed set on the list too - I think it was pretty cheap like £30 or £35.00 if I recall.

I thought I mentioned it at the time.

You didnt, and that would have been some fun info to have. Please find it again for us. £35.00 makes sense since this could easily be a $35 toy in the US and the UK usually matches that by putting a pound sign over the same number.

Found part of it :

http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/transf ... dule/12882

Well one of them anyway - there was another one I found with the prices on it too somewhere.

RAR wrote:Found part of it :

http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/transf ... dule/12882

Well one of them anyway - there was another one I found with the prices on it too somewhere.

yeah if you can find the one with the prices that would be ideal

I wasn't on my normal computer when I was looking at it so I can't look it up in the history unfortunately - but it was a link I found off the back of some news story on UK toyfair. I've back traced the usual sites and I can't seem to find where I saw it .. sorry about that.

I glad I found some of it though and that it was of some use.

RAR wrote:I wasn't on my normal computer when I was looking at it so I can't look it up in the history unfortunately - but it was a link I found off the back of some news story on UK toyfair. I've back traced the usual sites and I can't seem to find where I saw it .. sorry about that.

I glad I found some of it though and that it was of some use.

Do you mean this?
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/01/23/tran ... 017-331403

or this?(if it's this one! you may be mixing things up with the combiner set with Slug)
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/01/11/new- ... ces-330855

If these are smaller combiners we might be seeing a return of the PCC concept, only this time with fully transforming robots that spring into limbs when combined.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If these are smaller combiners we might be seeing a return of the PCC concept, only this time with fully transforming robots that spring into limbs when combined.

Well, as fully transforming as the combiner force combiners we got so far.

Did any of you miss out on those Robots in Disguise Titan Change Heroes? For those that forgot (since this is from 2015), those were the shampoo bottle type Transformers that actually transformed. They were surprisingly fun and did what they were there to do, pleasing to a much younger audience. There is a review below as a refresher. These are back on the shelves now in case you missed the, packaged under the new Combiner Force subline, and they were found at a Toysrus in long Island by Scottimus Prime. They actually include the Titan change heroes and the older 3 step Sideswipe under the same wave.

I've just seen a press walkabout vid of the London Toyfair & there's an RID poster outside a stall at 12:04mins into the vid(it's very brief), so hopefully tomorrow(or today) when the public are allowed in....someone will be sending pics & vids of what's on display at the RID stall...my guess is....hopefully Menasor will be there(if not....then he'll be at the German one at the start of next month)

But Hasbro isnt at the show, so wouldnt the RID stuff just be random merch?

william-james88 wrote:But Hasbro isnt at the show, so wouldnt the RID stuff just be random merch?

Dunno pal? but hoping when the vids & pics start rolling in that we'll get our first look at the Menasor toy.