Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Dragbreak Revealed

Oddly, despite Wildbreak forming the upper torso/head/arms, it's Dragstrip who ends up in control of the combined form's faculties.

I thought I remembered seeing Dragstrip's name as two words... oh well.

Sabrblade wrote:Oddly, despite Wildbreak forming the upper torso/head/arms, it's Dragstrip who ends up in control of the combined form's faculties.

Possibly "Wildstrip" was deemed an inappropriate name for a children's character. Goodness knows why that would have been...

Qwan wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oddly, despite Wildbreak forming the upper torso/head/arms, it's Dragstrip who ends up in control of the combined form's faculties.

Possibly "Wildstrip" was deemed an inappropriate name for a children's character. Goodness knows why that would have been...

Pretty sure none of the portmanteaus sounded appealing. WildDrag and StripBreak?

Sabrblade wrote:Oddly, despite Wildbreak forming the upper torso/head/arms, it's Dragstrip who ends up in control of the combined form's faculties.

Because in the cartoon it is Drag Strip that forms the shirt, while Wildbreak forms the pants:



The toys seem to have it reversed.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oddly, despite Wildbreak forming the upper torso/head/arms, it's Dragstrip who ends up in control of the combined form's faculties.

Because in the cartoon it is Drag Strip that forms the shirt, while Wildbreak forms the pants:



The toys seem to have it reversed.

Good point, something just doesn't add up given that they switched the order and gave Breaky the wrong alt mode, yet still have him the right one is the Menasor set. I'm starting to wonder if they made some serious changes late into season 3's production.

Perhaps someone decided to change it so there wouldn't be a yellow Decepticon that the kids might think is Bumblebee. (though that would be kind of insulting if they did do something like that).

Perhaps it's a simple error and they might introduce a running change with them swapped over (or Takara might swap them over - if they make their own version) - which i'd not mind as you'd have some extra combination options then.

Hopefully they will make the other two as well - just so that it opens up the play pattern.

I suppose they won't make very many of these - which is shame as if they did - then it would be most amusing to see a Scatterspike and Quillfire Crash combiner. You could have some fun with the various kinds of animal Decepticons too.

I guess we will find out what Hasbro is thinking to do with RID at the Hasbro show.

Wildbreak Looks like an F1 Formula Car from Rally-X

... wait. They... they gave the F1 drag racer to Wildbreak and not Drag Strip?

Kurona wrote:... wait. They... they gave the F1 drag racer to Wildbreak and not Drag Strip?

Worse still, neither is an F-1 racer in the show.

Wildbreak is most clearly the offspring of Knock Out and Breakdown.


Guess they managed to hug after all...


Carry on.

Va'al wrote:Wildbreak is most clearly the offspring of Knock Out and Breakdown.


Guess they managed to hug after all...


Carry on.

No one was asking to know your browser history.

Va'al wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:Carry on.

No one was asking to know your browser history.

The UK government does.

But in other retorts: that's actually the inside of my head.

Is it possible they painted the figures wrong? Considering the blue one in the show is the one that forms the pants and is the character who was in G1 a sports car while the yellow one in the show is the one on top and had an F1 design in the G1 show, could it be that the figures were painted backwards since every other source would indicate the colors should be reversed?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it possible they painted the figures wrong? Considering the blue one in the show is the one that forms the pants and is the character who was in G1 a sports car while the yellow one in the show is the one on top and had an F1 design in the G1 show, could it be that the figures were painted backwards since every other source would indicate the colors should be reversed?

We will find out more once we see the robot modes. I can only imagine blue F-1 car having Wildbreak's design, and the yellow sports car Dragstrip's

So I have the crash combiners Skyhammer and PrimeStrong, and when you swap their pants, they got come cool looks!

Strongarm seems to look good on anyone. Blue and white always comes through

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it possible they painted the figures wrong? Considering the blue one in the show is the one that forms the pants and is the character who was in G1 a sports car while the yellow one in the show is the one on top and had an F1 design in the G1 show, could it be that the figures were painted backwards since every other source would indicate the colors should be reversed?

The picture of Dragbreak on the package looks pretty much like he does on the show, except with the color schemes of the two halves swapped. So even if you disregard any possible G1 influence (not easy, I know), it's still backwards.

Zeedust wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Is it possible they painted the figures wrong? Considering the blue one in the show is the one that forms the pants and is the character who was in G1 a sports car while the yellow one in the show is the one on top and had an F1 design in the G1 show, could it be that the figures were painted backwards since every other source would indicate the colors should be reversed?

The picture of Dragbreak on the package looks pretty much like he does on the show, except with the color schemes of the two halves swapped. So even if you disregard any possible G1 influence (not easy, I know), it's still backwards.

Luckily, the cartoon has the two as the same car type, with neither being an F-1 racer. Thus, while Dragstrip isn't an F-1 racer in the show, coloring the F-1 racer toy that forms the top of Dragbreak in Dragstrip's colors, and coloring the car that forms the pants in Wildbreak's colors, would make this toy set less backwards than it is now.

Honestly, I love the concept, and I like putting them all into a single set, but the follow through is just awful.

I just notice Tesco sells the Combiner Force Grimlock :

https://www.tesco.com/direct/transforme ... d=578-3532

I've not seen it for sale in the UK before.

Sabrblade wrote:The picture of Dragbreak on the package looks pretty much like he does on the show, except with the color schemes of the two halves swapped. So even if you disregard any possible G1 influence (not easy, I know), it's still backwards.

Luckily, the cartoon has the two as the same car type, with neither being an F-1 racer. Thus, while Dragstrip isn't an F-1 racer in the show, coloring the F-1 racer toy that forms the top of Dragbreak in Dragstrip's colors, and coloring the car that forms the pants in Wildbreak's colors, would make this toy set less backwards than it is now.[/quote]

That's actually what I was trying to say, that the "it's not supposed to be G1" argument can't save this one, because it's also wrong relative to other, more directly relevant, things too.

I just had a thought.

If Hasbro wanted to make a Show exclusive that might gain some interest but be unexpected how about the large Takara Leader Class like Optimus Prime - so far he's had his Black and Red colours and his Red & Blue colours - so there is the option for a sandy deco and or a Blue deco (for a couple of examples)..

They could make English Language Sounds for him and (Peter Cullen Ideally - but not essentially) and I think that would be a nice fun toy - and since they pass on the original for that hollow mess with wings - It would be a nice way to get Optimus Out.

If they really wanted to they could follow on with something like a Sandy Deco 3-Step Bee or a Release of the Takara version of the Bee Mould.

If they did that they'd have the impression of doing something new - while actually not having to make even a new head or anything.

Just a thought anyway - though it does kinda rely on their being some demand for those sorts of things.

Also from Captain Hook - an online Dutch retailer - we have images of the two Transformers: Robots in Disguise R/C toys released by Dickie Toys under license from Hasbro: Grimlock and Bumblebee! You can check out images of the transforming race cars below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion board!

Am I the only one who just never see's these things in the stores or is it just me?

Deadput wrote:Am I the only one who just never see's these things in the stores or is it just me?

That's kind of the same question twice...

But no, I haven't seen them. But I guess I'm not exactly looking.

MagicDeath wrote:

Deadput wrote:Am I the only one who just never see's these things in the stores or is it just me?

That's kind of the same question twice...

But no, I haven't seen them. But I guess I'm not exactly looking.

The radio controlled/die cast vehicle line-up for RiD? UK and Europe only, afaik.

ScottyP wrote:

MagicDeath wrote:

Deadput wrote:Am I the only one who just never see's these things in the stores or is it just me?

That's kind of the same question twice...

But no, I haven't seen them. But I guess I'm not exactly looking.

The radio controlled/die cast vehicle line-up for RiD? UK and Europe only, afaik.

I'm not sure if Australia counts as UK or Europe (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, depending on definition I suppose), but I've seen the die-cast vehicles around. So yeah, those are definitely here too - haven't seen any kind of RC stuff though.

Deadput wrote:Am I the only one who just never see's these things in the stores or is it just me?

My guess is that this company might only release in certain countries, possibly European ones?

Zeedust wrote:

Deadput wrote:Am I the only one who just never see's these things in the stores or is it just me?

My guess is that this company might only release in certain countries, possibly European ones?

Or you're not looking at the right type of store, or aisle

I just found Deluxe Soundwave and Blurr in stores this past Friday and....yeah, these two are easily the best Hasbro releases. I was not disappointed at all with either of them, and was thoroughly impressed with the detail they put into Soundwave.

PrymeStriker wrote:I just found Deluxe Soundwave and Blurr in stores this past Friday and....yeah, these two are easily the best Hasbro releases. I was not disappointed at all with either of them, and was thoroughly impressed with the detail they put into Soundwave.

Honestly? I LOVE Soundwave. I'm sure part of it is my lasting affinity for WfC/FoC-style designs, but I adore basically every single thing about this guy (aside from the neck-plate...). I'm not sure exactly what it is that does it for me, but all the details just seem spot-on for Soundwave as a character; even the wings, which I have no idea where they were derived from honestly (if anywhere), just look right. If Classics had continued the way it was originally - updating characters' designs while preserving the essence, rather than a near-direct copy of their original look - this feels like exactly the Soundwave toy I would've wanted to see.

All extremely high praise I know, and I might be presenting the toy as just sliiightly better than it is objectively, but what can you do. It just goes to show how much I love it.

('Course, it doesn't hurt that I got him for the same price as it would usually cost me for a Legends-class figure. But I swear, even beyond that bias this toy is fantastic.)

Va'al wrote:

This is the greatest thing.

Qwan wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:I just found Deluxe Soundwave and Blurr in stores this past Friday and....yeah, these two are easily the best Hasbro releases. I was not disappointed at all with either of them, and was thoroughly impressed with the detail they put into Soundwave.

Honestly? I LOVE Soundwave. I'm sure part of it is my lasting affinity for WfC/FoC-style designs, but I adore basically every single thing about this guy (aside from the neck-plate...). I'm not sure exactly what it is that does it for me, but all the details just seem spot-on for Soundwave as a character; even the wings, which I have no idea where they were derived from honestly (if anywhere), just look right. If Classics had continued the way it was originally - updating characters' designs while preserving the essence, rather than a near-direct copy of their original look - this feels like exactly the Soundwave toy I would've wanted to see.

All extremely high praise I know, and I might be presenting the toy as just sliiightly better than it is objectively, but what can you do. It just goes to show how much I love it.

('Course, it doesn't hurt that I got him for the same price as it would usually cost me for a Legends-class figure. But I swear, even beyond that bias this toy is fantastic.)

Hell yeah, man.

There's always that level of disbelief, at first, because this is the only Decepticon other than Starscream to be returning from Prime, and with both Decepticons their original models were extremely sleek and slender. To be brought back into the story with these WFC-esque designs, it's a bit offsetting, especially for Soundwave given he's already returned once with his old model. When I bought the new Starscream figure, and put Prime First Edition Starscream next to him, it just looked like two different incarnations. This new Soundwave, though? Totally passes for the same guy. Maybe it's the fact that they kept the same head sculpt this time whereas Starscream was a completely makeover, but yeah, that's definitely Prime Soundwave.

Point being? Not only can I appreciate the toy's well-crafted design and detail in and of itself, but I can also more easily accept that this is supposed to be the same stealth bomber from the old show, which is just icing on the cake.

Grimlock looks like Zod, from the Gobots:

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PrymeStriker wrote:To be brought back into the story with these WFC-esque designs, it's a bit offsetting, especially for Soundwave given he's already returned once with his old model.

Maybe this new body is what will come about after Soundwave's Mini-Con minions finish gathering up all three Decepticon Hunters for him. Recall that three Decepticon Hunters brought together result in body upgrades that Takara's toys called "Supreme Modes". Maybe we'll see Soundwave somehow figure out how to make his new body a permanent upgrade instead of the temporary ones that Bee, Swipe, and Strongarm had in "Battlegrounds", and which Steeljaw and Bee again had in "Decepticon Island" (or like what Starscream and Optimus had in "Worthy").

Thanks to a new listing on Toy Wiz, we now have the stock photography for Robots In Disguise One Step Strongarm and Heatseeker! These two are also starting to show up at mass retail, so make sure to report any Transformer sightings to our Sightings Database! Take a look at the new photos below!

Qwan wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:I just found Deluxe Soundwave and Blurr in stores this past Friday and....yeah, these two are easily the best Hasbro releases. I was not disappointed at all with either of them, and was thoroughly impressed with the detail they put into Soundwave.

Honestly? I LOVE Soundwave. I'm sure part of it is my lasting affinity for WfC/FoC-style designs, but I adore basically every single thing about this guy (aside from the neck-plate...).

Its an awesome toy, and Hasbro did a great job with him. There is nthing missing to the deco, for me, nice helping of paint all around and a nice robot mode that is both new and inspired by what came before. The only reason he wouldnt be a top 5 soundwave to me is beccause of how the arms end up in alt mode. There is nothing there to hide them, it looks really lazy and bad.
And its really too bad such a great toy would also have this big a flaw. But dems da breaks!

Sabrblade wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:To be brought back into the story with these WFC-esque designs, it's a bit offsetting, especially for Soundwave given he's already returned once with his old model.

Maybe this new body is what will come about after Soundwave's Mini-Con minions finish gathering up all three Decepticon Hunters for him. Recall that three Decepticon Hunters brought together result in body upgrades that Takara's toys called "Supreme Modes". Maybe we'll see Soundwave somehow figure out how to make his new body a permanent upgrade instead of the temporary ones that Bee, Swipe, and Strongarm had in "Battlegrounds", and which Steeljaw and Bee again had in "Decepticon Island" (or like what Starscream and Optimus had in "Worthy").

That'd be a nice way to work it into the plotline, unlike Starscream's design change. Here's hoping. I'm still very satisfied with the Starscream weaponizer arc, mind you. Steve Blum is God.

william-james88 wrote:The only reason he wouldnt be a top 5 soundwave to me is beccause of how the arms end up in alt mode. There is nothing there to hide them, it looks really lazy and bad.
And its really too bad such a great toy would also have this big a flaw. But dems da breaks!

Ah yes, you're right, that's the only detractor of the toy for me, but somehow I can kinda get past it. Most of my figures are in robot mode most of the time anyway. Even still, would it have cost them so much money to put a hinge on the hands so they fold in?

PrymeStriker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:To be brought back into the story with these WFC-esque designs, it's a bit offsetting, especially for Soundwave given he's already returned once with his old model.

Maybe this new body is what will come about after Soundwave's Mini-Con minions finish gathering up all three Decepticon Hunters for him. Recall that three Decepticon Hunters brought together result in body upgrades that Takara's toys called "Supreme Modes". Maybe we'll see Soundwave somehow figure out how to make his new body a permanent upgrade instead of the temporary ones that Bee, Swipe, and Strongarm had in "Battlegrounds", and which Steeljaw and Bee again had in "Decepticon Island" (or like what Starscream and Optimus had in "Worthy").

That'd be a nice way to work it into the plotline, unlike Starscream's design change. Here's hoping. I'm still very satisfied with the Starscream weaponizer arc, mind you. Steve Blum is God.

I am glad that they at least acknowledged Starscream's new look rather than have us just pretend that his new look was just his Prime look run through an aesthetic filter like with Bumblebee's and Optimus's RID looks (and I'm especially glad that they were able to tie in back in with his WFC/FOC look, as a nice subtle nod to that era of the timeline).

But yeah, since we saw Soundwave in his Prime design in this show before, his new look is gonna need some sort of concrete onscreen explanation.

Sabrblade wrote:I am glad that they at least acknowledged Starscream's new look rather than have us just pretend that his new look was just his Prime look run through an aesthetic filter like with Bumblebee's and Optimus's RID looks (and I'm especially glad that they were able to tie in back in with his WFC/FOC look, as a nice subtle nod to that era of the timeline).

But yeah, since we saw Soundwave in his Prime design in this show before, his new look is gonna need some sort of concrete onscreen explanation.

I still like to think that Bee got an upgrade to explain his look and that Prime's look is an afterlife remodel or something.

Starscream's new look is great and much nicer then the skinny frail and dull colored Prime look I just don't understand why Starscream would "upgrade" from a clearly Superior armor design to his weak inferior Prime armor unless he was forced to.

The Transformers: Robots in Disguise line has had some sightings across the US, but one toy had eluded American stores until now - thanks to Seibertronian Bounti76, Crash Combiner Skyhammer is now proven to be out there; this particular one (See image below) is from Walmart in Centerville, Utah.

If you come across any new or old toy sightings, make sure to use our fully up to date Sightings Tool, and join the regional conversations in the Energon Pub - happy hunting!

I saw this the other day and thought, "I'll use the integrated search to see if it was seen yet." "Ok, spotted in NA, guess someone beat me to it." I love how I didn't read it was found in Canada.

Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 has once more found an early set of an upcoming toy, this time featuring the Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Ultra Bee - the Autobot Combiner of almost the entire Team Bee: Grimlock, Strongarm, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe! Check it out below.

Many collectors aren't going to be into this due to the simplified nature of the figure. I can't tell you that's wrong, but what I can tell you is that Ultra Bee is a solid combiner, that has a unique look that makes it stand out. Yes, the individual figures are simple, but the ritual of transforming them into their limb modes is fun while the figure comes together with a satisfying click at every point.

Va'al wrote:Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 has once more found an early set of an upcoming toy, this time featuring the Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Ultra Bee - the Autobot Combiner of almost the entire Team Bee: Grimlock, Strongarm, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe! Check it out below.

Many collectors aren't going to be into this due to the simplified nature of the figure. I can't tell you that's wrong, but what I can tell you is that Ultra Bee is a solid combiner, that has a unique look that makes it stand out. Yes, the individual figures are simple, but the ritual of transforming them into their limb modes is fun while the figure comes together with a satisfying click at every point.

Quite the clever combiner. I was afraid the entire thing would be extremely hollow and cheap. This might become a buy solely for the purpose of standing next to rid Galvatronus. Also, isn't this technically a 7 bot combiner, since jetstorm and slipstream because the "core" of the sword

How did they go backwards from Power Core Combiners? At least each core figure was a fully functioning Transformer. Not to mention that the combined modes actually had some decent articulation. They could also be upgraded with Minicons as well.

If they had just upgraded the PCC limbs into what they have here (or rather Menasor and Galvatronus) but kept the base figure style from PCC, these would've been awesome instead of just somewhat cool.

Minicon upgradable, articulated combined modes made from a complete base Transfromer with simple robot mode limbs that don't autotransform into horribly mismatched spindly messes.

I love combiners so I'll pick these up but they're not a priority. At least for me though, Power Core Combiners are much better overall. Especially when you mirror the drones to make the limbs work better as some limbs (legs especially) don't mix with well others.

Ultra Bee looks really cool, and there are some really clever things happening with Grimlock and Bee. I really do like it, and I can't wait to get it myself!

Pass on that one, but "Menasor" looks promising!

Agreed. I don't collect RiD but I may pick up Menasor.

Just watched the review; that's quite the clever transformation on Bee - comes out really clean and it looks fun to do. If only it was a little more articulated I might have wanted it...