Robots In Disguise Combiner Force Confirmed for 26 Episodes
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Hope you enjoyed the #TransformersRID season premiere! Now get ready for 25 more new episodes! @willfriedle @ConstanceZimmer @kharypayton
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Posted by PrymeStriker on May 1st, 2017 @ 5:50pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 1st, 2017 @ 6:06pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:So the Starscream thing is more or less officially under the second season. Alright. TFWiki will be undergoing some edits I imagine. And that means RID 2015 will contain at least 71 episodes.
Correct, correct, and correct. Cartoon network still sees Combiner Force as season 4, but I think the show editor should win that argument
Posted by Windsweeper on May 1st, 2017 @ 6:40pm CDT
The football game was completely unnecessary. The hermit too. Only thing I hate more than human characters in Transformers is sport.
Heatseekers voice was awful. To be honest I wish they'd kill off Drift and Grimlock.
It was one of the better Soundwave voices in the franchise thankfully though nothing has come close to his G1 voice.
Still, overall I've enjoyed RID.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 1st, 2017 @ 6:56pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on May 1st, 2017 @ 7:26pm CDT
So how exactly does Drift's transformation into sword form work? It doesn't look like it should really be possible...
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 1st, 2017 @ 8:29pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Woah, they, uh. They sure are big boned.
So how exactly does Drift's transformation into sword form work? It doesn't look like it should really be possible...
Looks like robot mode but his legs suck in and a sword blade comes out the top.
I also really like how bulky he is. it's cool
Posted by Sabrblade on May 1st, 2017 @ 10:52pm CDT
But... it was Frank Welker.Windsweeper wrote:It was one of the better Soundwave voices in the franchise thankfully though nothing has come close to his G1 voice.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 1st, 2017 @ 11:08pm CDT
48: Defrosted - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kfsb5
49: Blurred - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kfscz
50: Sphere of Influence - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kfsjc
51: Bee Cool - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kfsuk
52: The Great Divide - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5kfszt
Posted by PrymeStriker on May 1st, 2017 @ 11:18pm CDT
"Ehh...let's keep flying."
Posted by Sabrblade on May 1st, 2017 @ 11:29pm CDT
...Not really? I mean, the Wiki doesn't currently list the Starscream arc as Season 3.PrymeStriker wrote:So the Starscream thing is more or less officially under the second season. Alright. TFWiki will be undergoing some edits I imagine.
As to why it doesn't just lump it in the same list as Season 2, Chris McFeely has explained on the cartoon's Talk Page:
So, yeah, it is a part of Season 2, but more of an extension to that season made only after the fact, rather than an integral part that was always in the original plans for Season 2. Hence the "Season 2½" label the Wiki uses denote its separately-produced status.Seasons don't have 19 episodes, "Decepticon Island" is a clear season finale at the standard 13-episode production-unit mark, and the Starscream arc was promoted as "season 3" by the staff of the show at SDCC (and is even currently listed on Netflix and Cartoon Network's website under that name) because it was obviously produced as a separate 6-episode mini-series that wasn't considered part of season 2. They might've retroactively grouped it under that header, and I'm quite sure that if and when it's all released on a DVD box set it'll all be collected under the name of "season 2," but for us to just lump it in there is intellectually dishonest in regards to the nature of its production.
Posted by PrymeStriker on May 1st, 2017 @ 11:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:...Not really? I mean, the Wiki doesn't currently list the Starscream arc as Season 3.PrymeStriker wrote:So the Starscream thing is more or less officially under the second season. Alright. TFWiki will be undergoing some edits I imagine.
So, yeah, it is a part of Season 2, but more of an extension to that season made only after the fact, rather than an integral part that was always in the original plans for Season 2. Hence the "Season 2½" label the Wiki uses denote its separately-produced status.
I kinda meant something like what edit actually took place on the Wiki, which ended up just being this single line:
Wikileaks wrote:retroactively, it seems to have been lumped in with season 2
But yeah, I also figured they'd put it all under season two, or at the very least list season 2 "1/2" as a mini-series subcategory underneath the second season heading. Basically, my point is, "season 2 1/2" sounds clunky as all hell.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2017 @ 12:24am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 2nd, 2017 @ 12:27am CDT
That clunkiness is part of the intent behind that label. When it was found out to be an extension of Season 2, it was originally labeled as "Season 2.5", but was changed to "Season 2½" to not only denote the distinction between the original Season 2 episodes and the mini-series, but all to enhance the label's comedy potential. It looks ridiculous because it's supposed to look ridiculous.PrymeStriker wrote:But yeah, I also figured they'd put it all under season two, or at the very least list season 2 "1/2" as a mini-series subcategory underneath the second season heading. Basically, my point is, "season 2 1/2" sounds clunky as all hell.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 2nd, 2017 @ 1:19am CDT
G: "I'm the bottom aren't I?"
...
B: "Now Grim, you're the legs"
G: "I knew it"
Posted by bluecatcinema on May 2nd, 2017 @ 7:36am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 2nd, 2017 @ 8:29am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Remember how we told you once that Robots in Disguise: Combiner Force was confirmed for 26 episodes, but then there was some confusion as to whether there would be 13 or 26? Well, we can confirm from you via showrunner Adam Beechen that there are 26 episodes to Season 3 as he is calling it, grouping the Starscream arc under Season 2 by the showrunner himself. This means that we now have 24 more episodes after "King of the Hill" to look forward to! What do you think of this final confirmation? Let us know in the comments section below!
Hope you enjoyed the #TransformersRID season premiere! Now get ready for 25 more new episodes! @willfriedle @ConstanceZimmer @kharypayton
I always viewed the latter episodes with Starscream as part of season 2, always called it season 2 in all my comments...not sure where the confusion was...
I mean I know CN has cut budgets for shows short before due to lack of toy sales causing fewer episodes to get produced, or canceled them outright- but for once I would think this is not the case with RiD15. CN has had a long sad history of poor decision making however. Why there were only 19 episodes for season 2 we may never know.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 2nd, 2017 @ 9:15am CDT
Some sources like Netflix label the Starscream arc as "Season 3" because of its having been produced separately from the main 13 episodes of Season 2.o.supreme wrote:I always viewed the latter episodes with Starscream as part of season 2, always called it season 2 in all my comments...not sure where the confusion was...
CN doesn't have anything to do with RID's budget. They just broadcast it. The 19-episode count came about because Season 2 was originally billed a standard 13-episode amount, and then six more episodes were later produced as the mini-series/TV event that we got last Fall.o.supreme wrote:I mean I know CN has cut budgets for shows short before due to lack of toy sales causing fewer episodes to get produced, or canceled them outright- but for once I would think this is not the case with RiD15. CN has had a long sad history of poor decision making however. Why there were only 19 episodes for season 2 we may never know.
Posted by Solrac333 on May 2nd, 2017 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 2nd, 2017 @ 9:30am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:CN doesn't have anything to do with RID's budget. They just broadcast it.
That may be true, but if CN decides for whatever reason (ratings etc...) they don't want to pick up the show for another season it ends there, end of story, doesn't matter how well its doing elsewhere, unless Discovey Family were to pick it up... which I doubt would happen
TFA was distributed on all different networks around the world, but when CN in the U.S. ended it, it ended for everyone...the point is CN has been notorious for ending really good shows that both they themselves have produced, and ones they've merely broadcast.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 2nd, 2017 @ 9:59am CDT
True, but that wasn't the case here. Season 2 aired its full original run, and then got a bonus batch of six more eps later (which aired on Teletoon in Canada before they aired on CN in the U.S., btw).o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:CN doesn't have anything to do with RID's budget. They just broadcast it.
That may be true, but if CN decides for whatever reason (ratings etc...) they don't want to pick up the show for another season it ends there, end of story, doesn't matter how well its doing elsewhere, unless Discovey Family were to pick it up... which I doubt would happen
The difference there is that Animated was made directly by Cartoon Network Studios (in co-production with a few Asian animation studios). CN had the full power to kill its production because they owned and controlled Animated's production, whereas RID is made wholecloth by Hasbro Studios.o.supreme wrote:TFA was distributed on all different networks around the world, but when CN in the U.S. ended it, it ended for everyone...the point is CN has been notorious for ending really good shows that both they themselves have produced, and ones they've merely broadcast.
If you recall what happened with Beware the Batman. CN pulled the plug on airing that show after just 11 episodes had aired, but that show was not produced by CN itself. Rather, it was produced by Warner Bros. Animation and DC Entertainment (separate but related companies from CN itself), who had completed the show's 26-episode Season 1 production, and who managed to find alternative venues to get the rest of the season released to its viewers.
CN may have been able to stop that show from airing in full on its channel, but had no power in preventing the full season from being made in the first place, since its production was out of CN's hands. As RID is likewise made by a separate company from CN, it's in a similar position as Beware the Batman was (albeit, a much better case since RID has been allowed to continue airing on CN), in which CN can't stop RID's full seasons from being made after they're ordered. CN could choose to stop airing the show mid-season, but the rest of the season would still exist even in a yet-to-be-aired format.
Posted by o.supreme on May 2nd, 2017 @ 10:14am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If you recall what happened with Beware the Batman. CN pulled the plug on airing that show after just 11 episodes had aired, but that show was not produced by CN itself. Rather, it was produced by Warner Bros. Animation and DC Entertainment (separate but related companies from CN itself), who had completed the show's 26-episode Season 1 production, and who managed to find alternative venues to get the rest of the season released to its viewers.
Actually that is a perfect example, Beware the Batman did not get any other channel to air its remaining episodes, instead, perhaps because of some contractual obligation, CN "aired" the remaining 15 during the middle of the night on adult swim, when they knew very few people if anyone would be watching. Also two other very popular Warner/DC shows (Young Justice & Green Lantern) got canceled by CN because "toys were not selling"...thankfully the fandom has been heard in the case of YJ and after 6 years, and a ton of miracles, it is getting a 3rd season on Netflix.
But these are just a couple of examples, CN has been known as "The Place where Good Cartoons go to Die" for sometime. Fortunately it appears Hasbro will be going another direction, as it normally does about every 3 years, so they wont have to worry about wondering if CN will pick up another season or not, I'm sure season 3 will have a proper ending. I can only hope that whatever the next mainstream Transformers Animated series is, that Hasbro does not continue to partner with CN...too much bad history there. If they are smart, they will partner with Netflix.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 2nd, 2017 @ 10:21am CDT
All in all, though, each of those shows that CN killed still had the entirety of their seasons fully completed before CN pulled the plug on their airing them.o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If you recall what happened with Beware the Batman. CN pulled the plug on airing that show after just 11 episodes had aired, but that show was not produced by CN itself. Rather, it was produced by Warner Bros. Animation and DC Entertainment (separate but related companies from CN itself), who had completed the show's 26-episode Season 1 production, and who managed to find alternative venues to get the rest of the season released to its viewers.
Actually that is a perfect example, Beware the Batman did not get any other channel to air its remaining episodes, instead, perhaps because of some contractual obligation, CN "aired" the remaining 15 during the middle of the night on adult swim, when they knew very few people if anyone would be watching. Also two other very popular Warner/DC shows (Young Justice & Green Lantern) got canceled by CN because "toys were not selling"...thankfully the fandom has been heard in the case of YJ and after 6 years, and a ton of miracles, it is getting a 3rd season on Netflix.
But these are just a couple of examples, CN has been known as "The Place where Good Cartoons go to Die" for sometime. Fortunately it appears Hasbro will be going another direction, as it normally does about every 3 years, so they wont have to worry about wondering if CN will pick up another season or not, I'm sure season 3 will have a proper ending. I can only hope that whatever the next mainstream Transformers Animated series is, that Hasbro does not continue to partner with CN...too much bad history there. If they are smart, they will partner with Netflix.
Posted by Silverwing on May 2nd, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:"The Great Divide, the biggest canyon in the Earth Kingdom!"
"Ehh...let's keep flying."
"HONOR!"
Posted by PrymeStriker on May 2nd, 2017 @ 2:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That clunkiness is part of the intent behind that label. When it was found out to be an extension of Season 2, it was originally labeled as "Season 2.5", but was changed to "Season 2½" to not only denote the distinction between the original Season 2 episodes and the mini-series, but all to enhance the label's comedy potential. It looks ridiculous because it's supposed to look ridiculous.
Ahh, okay, I see. Maybe I can tolerate it for a few more lives then.
Silverwing wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:"The Great Divide, the biggest canyon in the Earth Kingdom!"
"Ehh...let's keep flying."
"HONOR!"
You see this, Kurona? This is the real reason we need "Like" buttons on this site.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on May 7th, 2017 @ 12:38pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:First Complaint: HeatSeeker really coulda been Offroad, since this is now the second time the Stunticons have called on a high performance Pickup.
It was nice seeing Team Bee go up against an actual Decepticon and fall flat on their face. They talked about losing their sharpness and all, but the Bee Team spent all of its "training" up against recently released prisoners. Sure, ther was Screamer, but they had help for him. That being said, I don't feel like this really needed to be 2 episodes. I am not sure what you cut out to to condense it, other than the totally unneeded Football game, as most of the action sequences were needed. but Heatseeker alone wasn't really enough to warrant two episodes. He felt repetitve. I liked his motives, and his stregy, and dare I say it his aggressiveness, although I completely agree with Pryme Strikeron hi vocal delivery., whoever Heatseeker's voice actor is really sucks donkey ass. The line delivery on that 'con was absolutely abysmal and cringeworthy.
Sideswipe/Strongarm felt like a step backwards. Surely by now they should be working in better synce in spite of each other's idiosyncracies. Iam kinda tired of that, too.
Poor Grimlock.
The Minicon really felt like a "To Sell Toys!" moment. ZFlying Bunblebee served no purpose, and as far as knocking loose his DH and scanner, that could easily have been chalked up to his regular battle with HeatSeeker. Is what it is though, I guess.
I am however, truly excited to see the Stunticons in action. Not sure why, but I have really resonated with them and even before Season 2 thought they would be good opponents for an Earth-based Autobot team. No huge interstellar plots, just good old King of the Road.
Soundwave spoke! While I, Like a lot of others, enjoyed his silent Prime run, lets be realistic, how else is he going to communicate when he's in another dimension? Gesture wildly? Shadow puppets? Long as he is not a chatterbox.
Fanfiction idea: What if, instead of Megatronus, it was Soundwave who orchestrated the crashing of the Alchemor on Earth? I've toyed with that thought for a long time, had they done that, they would have saved a season of "How is this a Sequel?"
I wonder how Soundwave gets loose from the Shadowzone?
+ we still dunno how he got his new FOC/WFC style look either
Posted by Stuartmaximus on May 7th, 2017 @ 12:50pm CDT
Crustacean just looks the same or similar to Ped, loved the flying Bee(in vehicle mode), it was cool to see the Beeformer(unconscious in one of the earlier eps & stumbling about in a later ep), new look Blurr is cool(even though we still don't yet know if Rescue Bots is getting a 5th season or not?), cool to see two of the Stunticons combine(which btw is shown in the title sequence anyway), dunno when we'll get a good look at Motormaster? as he keeps on hiding in the shadows, can't wait for the rest of the season to see Menasor, Galvatronus, Bruticus, Soundwave & whoever else new is coming into it + the odd appearance of a Rescue Bots character
Posted by Sabrblade on May 8th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT
Season 3 Episode 8:
Get a Clue
Strongarm flexes her detective muscles to solve a baffling series of Decepticon thefts; she may need to stand up to her teammates in order to bring a perp to justice.
Season 3 Episode 9:
Out of the Shadows
The Bee Team learns about Drift's past when his former mentor Shadow Raker comes to Earth to recover something Drift has taken from him - Slipstream and Jetstorm.
Posted by Kurona on May 9th, 2017 @ 4:42am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 9th, 2017 @ 8:41am CDT
Kurona wrote:... alright, it's great that we're getting backstory on Drift that probably has to do with him being a former Decepticon; but Shadow Raker? Shadow Raker? Even for Transformers names that's stupid.
Thunderhoof redeco
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2017 @ 9:59am CDT
It sounds to me like a Micromaster-era Japanese G1 character name.Kurona wrote:... alright, it's great that we're getting backstory on Drift that probably has to do with him being a former Decepticon; but Shadow Raker? Shadow Raker? Even for Transformers names that's stupid.
Posted by PrymeStriker on May 9th, 2017 @ 3:26pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It sounds to me like a Micromaster-era Japanese G1 character name.Kurona wrote:... alright, it's great that we're getting backstory on Drift that probably has to do with him being a former Decepticon; but Shadow Raker? Shadow Raker? Even for Transformers names that's stupid.
Which I suppose would go well juxtaposed to Drift's samurai design........
*cough*
....Right, so I'm thoroughly excited for this episode.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2017 @ 7:36pm CDT
Season 3 Episode 9:
Out of the Shadows
The Bee Team learns about Drift's past when his former mentor Shadow Raker comes to Earth to recover something Drift has taken from him - Slipstream and Jetstorm.
Season 3 Episode 8:
Get a Clue
Strongarm flexes her detective muscles to solve a baffling series of Decepticon thefts; she may need to stand up to her teammates in order to bring a perp to justice.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on May 9th, 2017 @ 9:04pm CDT
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 9:22pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Guess RID is going the same way of Drift being a Decepticon.
Of course! Hopefully it'll be original, but they may be trying to tie in some comic fans. "Y'know he was like that in the comics too!" Or they're playing it safe with a comics original character, as too not stray too far from his original backstory as to not upset fans of the character.
I mean, Hasbro has never rehashed and completely changed a comics original's backstory before in RiD.
Posted by Kurona on May 9th, 2017 @ 9:27pm CDT
So what am I getting at here? This is the first time that any Drift will face their status of being a former Decepticon in the main story.
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Funny thing is, his whole deal of being a former Decepticon almost never plays into Drift's character. Oh sure, it happened in his spotlight and both of his spin-off miniseries in IDW, but beyond that? It doesn't come up during MTMTE, you wouldn't even know it's a part of his character in AOE unless you read one of the Titan comics (though, to be fair, you wouldn't know Drift's name in AOE unless you squinted hard at a two-second scene), and this is the first time it's coming up in Aligned. When he first created Drift, Shane McCarthy said he wanted to see what a character would be like if they were a Decepticon who turned Autobot - because that hadn't happened before 2008, clearly - and then never brought it up in AHM. Weird.
So what am I getting at here? This is the first time that any Drift will face their status of being a former Decepticon in the main story.
You getting at something? Thought you were just making a point.
You do actually have a point, though. And, as a show for kids, it could have the theme of "past actions do have consequences". Which would be a nice move away from the standard "teamwork is best" stuff they keep pushing. Plus, it would make me like Drift even more.
...wait. Kids learning actually lessons from shows is something of the past? Ohhhh... oops, wrong decade.
Sidenote: In one of the shorts, they say how Slipstream and Jetstorm meet Drift, don't they?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2017 @ 9:51pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on May 9th, 2017 @ 10:47pm CDT
Nexus Knight wrote: Sidenote: In one of the shorts, they say how Slipstream and Jetstorm meet Drift, don't they?
I'm pretty sure Slipstream said he used to be a thief back on Cybertron.
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 11:22pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Nexus Knight wrote: Sidenote: In one of the shorts, they say how Slipstream and Jetstorm meet Drift, don't they?
I'm pretty sure Slipstream said he used to be a thief back on Cybertron.
Ah, alright, thank you. I couldn't remember as it has been awhile since I watched them.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2017 @ 11:30pm CDT
Here is Slipstream's backstory:Nexus Knight wrote:Deadput wrote:Nexus Knight wrote: Sidenote: In one of the shorts, they say how Slipstream and Jetstorm meet Drift, don't they?
I'm pretty sure Slipstream said he used to be a thief back on Cybertron.
Ah, alright, thank you. I couldn't remember as it has been awhile since I watched them.
Posted by Deadput on May 10th, 2017 @ 10:16pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CDT
Out of curiosity, is this your first viewing of this short?Deadput wrote:Ahhh
Posted by Deadput on May 11th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Out of curiosity, is this your first viewing of this short?Deadput wrote:Ahhh
No but I only watched it once prior and that's when it came out and I'm forgetful so I only remember things that leave an impact on me.
But I'm sure I watched all of the RID shorts so far.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2017 @ 1:27pm CDT
Got it. Just wanted to make sure you got to see the 6-part Cyclone shorts.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Out of curiosity, is this your first viewing of this short?Deadput wrote:Ahhh
No but I only watched it once prior and that's when it came out and I'm forgetful so I only remember things that leave an impact on me.
But I'm sure I watched all of the RID shorts so far.
Posted by Deadput on May 11th, 2017 @ 1:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Got it. Just wanted to make sure you got to see the 6-part Cyclone shorts.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Out of curiosity, is this your first viewing of this short?Deadput wrote:Ahhh
No but I only watched it once prior and that's when it came out and I'm forgetful so I only remember things that leave an impact on me.
But I'm sure I watched all of the RID shorts so far.
Thanks for posting the vid it reminded me that my sister who I watch Rid with has not seen the shorts so that gives me something to put on while we wait for new season 3 episodes.
Posted by Deadput on June 9th, 2017 @ 7:27pm CDT
https://mobile.twitter.com/sonnova/status/872279058511413248
Which honestly sucks because Bludgeon was the one G1 reference I was excited for since he has never been in a show.
So why did they make a toy for him then in the first place instead of making figures of characters in the show.
Posted by Kurona on June 9th, 2017 @ 7:33pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on June 9th, 2017 @ 7:51pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Character popularity, retool potential from Megatronus, Blastwave's gonna be on the show? Take your pick. 'No spoilers' seems to translate to 'definite yes' for Blastwave being on tho.
So their going to put in a character that looks like Bludgeon but is not actually Bludgeon.
As great as some the cons are in this show they still continue to get the short end of the stick.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 9th, 2017 @ 8:13pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Kurona wrote:Character popularity, retool potential from Megatronus, Blastwave's gonna be on the show? Take your pick. 'No spoilers' seems to translate to 'definite yes' for Blastwave being on tho.
So their going to put in a character that looks like Bludgeon but is not actually Bludgeon.
As great as some the cons are in this show they still continue to get the short end of the stick.
And the toy of Blastwave looks nothing like the probable animation model, yay
Posted by Deadput on June 9th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Deadput wrote:Kurona wrote:Character popularity, retool potential from Megatronus, Blastwave's gonna be on the show? Take your pick. 'No spoilers' seems to translate to 'definite yes' for Blastwave being on tho.
So their going to put in a character that looks like Bludgeon but is not actually Bludgeon.
As great as some the cons are in this show they still continue to get the short end of the stick.
And the toy of Blastwave looks nothing like the probable animation model, yay
Exactly so were not even getting a cool skeleton robot because rule of cool can't exist in recent Transformers cartoons.
Not since Animated anyways.