Robot Mode Images of BTS-04 Soundwave

So, Hasbro gave us a bunch of cell phones, game controllers, a freaking WATCH (twice), an MP3 player (again...twice) and a mini-cam for the smaller round of figures for the first Movie line, none of which had anything to do with the movie, but they couldn't pull off something like this for us?

Yeah, still not buying it. If I ever have the urge to replace my ML Soundwave, I think I'll do the Perceptor mod.

I like the missile rack, could be my first third party figure if the price is right

I still fail to see what is so damn impressive about a tape player. I grew up watching transformers in the 80's and thought it was lame then and its lame know. I also hated perceptor. Now perceptor has a much more practical alt-mode. I mean come on...what a radio/cassete player going to do in battle? blast Justin Bieber til the autobots are so annoyed they surrender?

*looks at robot mode pic*

I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

I've always loved that design from Guido Guidi, but this figure just isn't lighting a fire under my wigwam. Maybe it's because I don't own any G1 cassettes. Doesn't anyone care about how lonely Universe Classics 2.0 Ravage is looking?

Nah, me neither. I eagerly await more news on Perfect Effect's long-ago hinted at Soundwave.

There's a few things about the prototype that I just don't like. Right off the bat, everyone tries to look for the head. From what we can see, it's just a faceplate and visor eyes. Way too skinny, not enough detail to resemble Dons work. Next look at the torso, does it have the abomin that Don gave his concept art? Doesn't look like it. It looks as though it swings down on a small pivot.

Now, these things could be put to bed the next time we see some better shots but so far I think what we see is what we don't get.

So far, it's a pass for me.

UIt can hold G1 cassettes it seems .... a real plus, but I need to see more pics before buying. MP3 Soundwave is perfect in every way except his inability to hold G1 cassettes, and that's not too bad, really.

Yeah, the cropped pics of his head make me wonder how good it is. Not really impressed with the little they're showing of it.

El Duque wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Can a real cassette fit in there? It's look like it can.

Not sure, initially I thought it was a G1 cassette, but upon closer inspection I'm not so sure. It's definitely a cassette of some sort though.

Looks like Rumble/Frenzy to me. It's Laserbeak in the second set.

Vicalliose wrote:Is there really a replacement for microcassette recorders though? Are they replaced by the recorders in some cell phones?... No I still don't think that's quite the proper replacement. Law Enforcement officials still use them right? I feel a little old now.

Digital voice recorders.

I've been gnawing on what was off about the robot mode to the art and now I finally realize it's twofold. There's no separation between his tape door and pelvis and his crotch is so small it makes his chest look huge.

He still looks he could work out alright, but I want to see complete profiles of him fully painted.

Right now, I'm still jonesing for Perfect Effect's Soundwave and eventual Laserbeak/Buzzsaw decos.

Skyfire77 wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:Is there really a replacement for microcassette recorders though? Are they replaced by the recorders in some cell phones?... No I still don't think that's quite the proper replacement. Law Enforcement officials still use them right? I feel a little old now.

Digital voice recorders.

Law enforcement and legal matters such as depositions haven't used cassette based recorders in a very long time. Analog recordings are too easily altered and rerecorded to be considered hard evidence anymore. And I know that digital is actually easier to edit, it still shows signs that it has been edited.

They have to fix the face......make it more "Action Master" like first.

As somebody has already mentioned, G1/MP Megatron all over again, minus attempts to actualy, narrow the depth, and broaden the front perspective, so we have skinny yet wide side profile legs. G1 soundwave, was a very well designed robot mode, this has a more boxy chest, and the areas where there could of been improvemen are worse. This figure is worse than the original. The original is so clever, from the batteries becoming weapons, and the cassette minions, all some of the best g1 designs, this doesn't come close. AT first I thought th esculpt wasn't finished, as they seemed to have used the same sort of plastic, [I forget what it's called, I used to use it at schhool] to make the prototype, and like Perfect transformation Powerglide, was made from a blocky formed prototype and slowly built up and carved away, to eventually become a well designed transformer, you can see from the alt mode that all sculpting is done.
I give props to anyone who puts the effort into making designs that Has/Tak will not, bt from the design stages this should off been dropped or rethought, as the robot mode is sacraficed, for an alt mode which I for one have no desire to display, neither do I want to display an akward looking Soundwave.

So far so good.

Still need to see more pics.

A little boxy for a figure of this day and age. But thats OK. Dont really care about cassettes being inside of him because it would be on my classics shelf side by side with perfect effect "cassettes" in robot mode. Lets just hope the guy doesnt cater to geeks by putting a stupid MP3 player feature that would only raise the price. Just gimmie a solid classics figure I beg...

WHY! WHY! WHY! CAN’T THEY MAKE A CHEAP G1 REILISTIC SOUNDWAVE

No where near as fond of this as I was now.

godzillabot wrote:WHY! WHY! WHY! CAN’T THEY MAKE A CHEAP G1 REILISTIC SOUNDWAVE

Because G1 isn't modern.

Looks fragile.

Rated X wrote:Lets just hope the guy doesnt cater to geeks by putting a stupid MP3 player feature that would only raise the price. Just gimmie a solid classics figure I beg...

You do realize that this is a Transformers product, correct? You do realize that as people above the age of about 14 who are buying Transformer products, we are geeks? You understand that this, being catered to Transformer collectors, means that is IS being catered to geeks?

You are a geek. I am a geek. We're all geeks on this forum. No need to be in sad denial about it, just be proud of being a geek.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

Rated X wrote:Lets just hope the guy doesnt cater to geeks by putting a stupid MP3 player feature that would only raise the price. Just gimmie a solid classics figure I beg...

You do realize that this is a Transformers product, correct? You do realize that as people above the age of about 14 who are buying Transformer products, we are geeks? You understand that this, being catered to Transformer collectors, means that is IS being catered to geeks?

You are a geek. I am a geek. We're all geeks on this forum. No need to be in sad denial about it, just be proud of being a geek.

There are two types of geeks well 4 actualy, But the main difference is where boundaries lie. I'm the total opposite of a geek, but I design and make music, so do alot of other people, but I'm heavily into my mac, and am always helping out people I know who do the same thing but aren't as into the thing behind it all, I cross the liine and am passionate about the technology. I like the geeky part too but out of necessity but as it's apple it's fun. When it comes to Transformers, it's the transformers I like, I would never wear a Transformers watch or have it as my ring tone, a certain type of geek would. When I buy music equipment, it has to be the best for my money for playing music. I wear designer clothes, for the style I would not buy something becuase it had transformers on it, I buy clothes that look good, transformers shouldn't step into a part of your life which it has no place in beeing. Certain geeks watch anything with robots in, or that is scy fy, I only like transformers, I do so for the looks, so I do have some gundam etc, but if it doesn't meet a certain standard it ends there.
Transformers is a big part of my life, but it doesn't interfere with other parts, there for I have quality transformers, quality clothes and quality music equpment. Mixing the 2 means, an inferior mp3 player and an inferior figure. So the explanation is tricky as geeks are stereotyped as being clever, but being clever is form follows function, and being clever is getting something that is the best it can be, If you saw someone wearing a star trek t-shirt, you may think geek, I personaly would think, that is a poor quality t-shirt and has spent the extra money as it has something which has nothing to do with clothes printed on it, so thats not smart, it's jus an example as they might not care about clothes and the design might be kool. SO a soundwave figure that plays mp3s is a poor figure as it has to compensate a cheap component that can't play music wel, so thats not smart.
It's all abou stereo types, and the true meaning of the word, how many boxes do you have to tick for you to be considered to belong to one type of people, but the what happens if you tick boxes not only in other group types but in groups that are considered the total oppositte, I know I do. And in todays world things are changing, especialy as technology is becoming more useful and more important to everyone, so isn't everyone a geek now. Geeks were considered the brains, but it's so obvious thats not the case anymore, and people who try hard not to be geeks don't realise that actually makes them a geek. It's passion wih no reason. People who smoke weed and buy t-shirts with ganja leave son are geeks, Gangsters who read all the gangster books and say something profound before they kill someone are geeks. I love computers but I use it for something, I'm a geek in that respect, but then there's people who work in computer shops or I.T and they have loads of computers and know alt about them, but really have no use for a powrful machine becuase they don't actually use them for what they are ment for.

DTR69 wrote:There are two types of geeks well 4 actualy, But the main difference is where boundaries lie.

Riiiight...

DTR69 wrote:I'm the total opposite of a geek, but I design and make music, so do alot of other people, but I'm heavily into my mac, and am always helping out people I know who do the same thing but aren't as into the thing behind it all, I cross the liine and am passionate about the technology.

So...GEEK? Yeah. Geek.

DTR69 wrote:I like the geeky part too but out of necessity but as it's apple it's fun. When it comes to Transformers, it's the transformers I like, I would never wear a Transformers watch or have it as my ring tone, a certain type of geek would.

So, you're embarrassed to be a TF fan, yet here you are?

DTR69 wrote:When I buy music equipment, it has to be the best for my money for playing music. I wear designer clothes, for the style I would not buy something becuase it had transformers on it, I buy clothes that look good, transformers shouldn't step into a part of your life which it has no place in beeing.

So...what point are you trying to make here? Pharell Williams is hard core Voltron fan. You gonna step up to him and tell him his geekiness is wrong? The man's into fashion, he's a professional and he admits to being a Voltron fan. It was even going to be a part of his career. He was going to score the film that never made it to the big screen. That's good money, that's a pro being a pro, while being a geek. So...what point are you trying to make?

DTR69 wrote:Certain geeks watch anything with robots in, or that is scy fy, I only like transformers, I do so for the looks, so I do have some gundam etc, but if it doesn't meet a certain standard it ends there.

A very judgmental pot calling the kettle black.

DTR69 wrote:Transformers is a big part of my life, but it doesn't interfere with other parts, there for I have quality transformers, quality clothes and quality music equpment. Mixing the 2 means, an inferior mp3 player and an inferior figure. So the explanation is tricky as geeks are stereotyped as being clever, but being clever is form follows function, and being clever is getting something that is the best it can be, If you saw someone wearing a star trek t-shirt, you may think geek, I personaly would think, that is a poor quality t-shirt and has spent the extra money as it has something which has nothing to do with clothes printed on it, so thats not smart, it's jus an example as they might not care about clothes and the design might be kool. SO a soundwave figure that plays mp3s is a poor figure as it has to compensate a cheap component that can't play music wel, so thats not smart.

Wow. That's one of the most...just wow. I want to say something here, but I can't find the words because I think my brain just broke.

DTR69 wrote:It's all abou stereo types, and the true meaning of the word, how many boxes do you have to tick for you to be considered to belong to one type of people, but the what happens if you tick boxes not only in other group types but in groups that are considered the total oppositte, I know I do. And in todays world things are changing, especialy as technology is becoming more useful and more important to everyone, so isn't everyone a geek now. Geeks were considered the brains, but it's so obvious thats not the case anymore, and people who try hard not to be geeks don't realise that actually makes them a geek.

Are you listening to yourself ramble? I mean seriously. I know you're trying to make a point here, but damn. I could give you a map, a light, and a GPS, and you still couldn't find it. I know I damn sure can't!

DTR69 wrote:It's passion wih no reason. People who smoke weed and buy t-shirts with ganja leave son are geeks, Gangsters who read all the gangster books and say something profound before they kill someone are geeks. I love computers but I use it for something, I'm a geek in that respect, but then there's people who work in computer shops or I.T and they have loads of computers and know alt about them, but really have no use for a powrful machine becuase they don't actually use them for what they are ment for.

Passion with no reason? This was a post with no reason. It was just a bunch of words slamming around in your head and you just had to get them out. Unfortunately, we're all worse off for it. Not only that, but it was offensive. If you're embarrassed about being a geek, there's the door. The rest of us will wear the label with a smile and enjoy our lives. If you ever decide to give that a try, we'll be here, but until you come to terms with being a geek, you're wasting our time here. That includes your time as well.

"I'm not a geek. Well, not that kind of geek." Please, save it.

DTR69 wrote:I wear designer clothes, for the style I would not buy something becuase it had transformers on it, I buy clothes that look good, transformers shouldn't step into a part of your life which it has no place in beeing.

I hate buying clothes. There is no way I could wear designer clothes because it would take away from my Transformer money. Besides it's not my style.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

DTR69 wrote:I wear designer clothes, for the style I would not buy something becuase it had transformers on it, I buy clothes that look good, transformers shouldn't step into a part of your life which it has no place in beeing.

I hate buying clothes. There is no way I could wear designer clothes because it would take away from my Transformer money. Besides it's not my style.

That's a fair point and your choice, my point was a t-shirt with a transformer logo on, some look ok, but alot don't, it serves no worthy purpose, the money could go on a decnt t-shirt or a transformer. Soomebody mentioned they hoped they didn't make this play mp3's and that they put there efforts into making a solid figure. And thats my point, make one or the other, as a compramise is a waste of time.

Autobot032 wrote:

DTR69 wrote:There are two types of geeks well 4 actualy, But the main difference is where boundaries lie.

Riiiight...

DTR69 wrote:I'm the total opposite of a geek, but I design and make music, so do alot of other people, but I'm heavily into my mac, and am always helping out people I know who do the same thing but aren't as into the thing behind it all, I cross the liine and am passionate about the technology.

So...GEEK? Yeah. Geek.

DTR69 wrote:I like the geeky part too but out of necessity but as it's apple it's fun. When it comes to Transformers, it's the transformers I like, I would never wear a Transformers watch or have it as my ring tone, a certain type of geek would.

So, you're embarrassed to be a TF fan, yet here you are?

DTR69 wrote:When I buy music equipment, it has to be the best for my money for playing music. I wear designer clothes, for the style I would not buy something becuase it had transformers on it, I buy clothes that look good, transformers shouldn't step into a part of your life which it has no place in beeing.

So...what point are you trying to make here? Pharell Williams is hard core Voltron fan. You gonna step up to him and tell him his geekiness is wrong? The man's into fashion, he's a professional and he admits to being a Voltron fan. It was even going to be a part of his career. He was going to score the film that never made it to the big screen. That's good money, that's a pro being a pro, while being a geek. So...what point are you trying to make?

DTR69 wrote:Certain geeks watch anything with robots in, or that is scy fy, I only like transformers, I do so for the looks, so I do have some gundam etc, but if it doesn't meet a certain standard it ends there.

A very judgmental pot calling the kettle black.

DTR69 wrote:Transformers is a big part of my life, but it doesn't interfere with other parts, there for I have quality transformers, quality clothes and quality music equpment. Mixing the 2 means, an inferior mp3 player and an inferior figure. So the explanation is tricky as geeks are stereotyped as being clever, but being clever is form follows function, and being clever is getting something that is the best it can be, If you saw someone wearing a star trek t-shirt, you may think geek, I personaly would think, that is a poor quality t-shirt and has spent the extra money as it has something which has nothing to do with clothes printed on it, so thats not smart, it's jus an example as they might not care about clothes and the design might be kool. SO a soundwave figure that plays mp3s is a poor figure as it has to compensate a cheap component that can't play music wel, so thats not smart.

Wow. That's one of the most...just wow. I want to say something here, but I can't find the words because I think my brain just broke.

DTR69 wrote:It's all abou stereo types, and the true meaning of the word, how many boxes do you have to tick for you to be considered to belong to one type of people, but the what happens if you tick boxes not only in other group types but in groups that are considered the total oppositte, I know I do. And in todays world things are changing, especialy as technology is becoming more useful and more important to everyone, so isn't everyone a geek now. Geeks were considered the brains, but it's so obvious thats not the case anymore, and people who try hard not to be geeks don't realise that actually makes them a geek.

Are you listening to yourself ramble? I mean seriously. I know you're trying to make a point here, but damn. I could give you a map, a light, and a GPS, and you still couldn't find it. I know I damn sure can't!

DTR69 wrote:It's passion wih no reason. People who smoke weed and buy t-shirts with ganja leave son are geeks, Gangsters who read all the gangster books and say something profound before they kill someone are geeks. I love computers but I use it for something, I'm a geek in that respect, but then there's people who work in computer shops or I.T and they have loads of computers and know alt about them, but really have no use for a powrful machine becuase they don't actually use them for what they are ment for.

Passion with no reason? This was a post with no reason. It was just a bunch of words slamming around in your head and you just had to get them out. Unfortunately, we're all worse off for it. Not only that, but it was offensive. If you're embarrassed about being a geek, there's the door. The rest of us will wear the label with a smile and enjoy our lives. If you ever decide to give that a try, we'll be here, but until you come to terms with being a geek, you're wasting our time here. That includes your time as well.

"I'm not a geek. Well, not that kind of geek." Please, save it.

Never said I had a problem with beeing a geek. That was someone else. It was a response to someone questioning someonelse's response. Calling somone a geek was originally ment in a negative way, although the definition may be of something quite posative, it's the manor in which something posative is performed, as in someone studying is posative, but trading off having a social life and beeingboring is negative. The term geek was originally aimed at brainy people, but beeing a train spotter doesn't make you clever but is considered geeky, and generaly not kool,
Yeah I went off on one, but it was becuase the point that someone made was on the soundwave figure, is a problem that is repeatedly happening. Anyways I know what I ment, sorry I ddn't explain it better, it's one thing to not get my point but another to to make things up that I never said.

Why is all this chatter unrelated to Soundwave in this thread?

Take it to PMs and delete some posts people.

I like Soundwave. I hope I can buy it online, so I can be naked when I buy him. Clothes are for geeks.

Welll... like I posted earlier, I won't be getting him. I've got ML Soundwave and Generations Soundwave. Not to mention it's not looking too good.

Counterpunch wrote:Why is all this chatter unrelated to Soundwave in this thread?

Take it to PMs and delete some posts people.

I agree, my points were all based on the thread, I did over elaborate, and trying to keep it brief, probaly didn't explain myself well. Buy people always seem to jump on what I 'm saying rather than what I'm saying about the actual subject. I'm not bothered if people disagree with what I'm sying, but keep it on subject, as I'm tired of diverting into pointless arguments. I really am not trying to offend anyone one, and I am happy to explain by pm if you do have a problem with anything I say. AT the end of the day we're all here becuase we like transformers. I am passionate about the direction they are going in.
I love thrird party releases, and I think they benefit Has/Tak in some areas. This release has problems, for a thrird party release to be successful it has to be really good, and this needs revising. it could be so much more, adult collectors have high standards, and I wish we all could refrain sometimes, and hold off, to show that we woant better, it would help prevent endless repaints, and rushed designs.
I know I'm not the only one with limityed display space left, and I'm more fussy nowdays, soon the hardcore collectors will have no more space, so companies need to realise that there target audience has been around for a while now, and that we take care off our transformers, just look at ebay, years ago, most figures would be snapped up, now exclusives are reappearing quicker, and sell for less, it shows that we want, but can't keep for long, and that getting rid of to other collectors is a problem as they too have limited funds and space to display.

i think he looks pretty good and its really an interesting idea.
the only concern i have is the waist and legs they look a little frail unless they use diecast in there it looks like it could break rather easily. i guess itll depend on how hes transformed.