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Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon

Transformers News: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon

Sunday, September 25th, 2022 1:54PM CDT

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While Rise of the Beasts is not written on this toy's packaging, this Smash Changer Optimus Prime was initially listed as a Movie 7 toy and the listing later got turned into a toy for the Cyberverse line. Regardless, this toy still depicts Optimus Prime in the robot mode from Rise of the Beasts and it is now available in stores in the US and on Amazon in the $30 price range. There have been sightings in Meijer and Walmart stores, all within the past week.

Amazon link https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WXGMGNF?ta ... formers-20

Original listing for retailer:
TRA MV7 Smash Changers Optimus Prime

Current listing for retailers:
TRA Cyberverse Smash Changers Optimus Prime

It should also be known that not all ROTB toys are going to become Cyberverse toys. There are upcoming ROTB One Steps that will be coming out in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line in about a month, so maybe then we will get even more early designs.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2145395)
Posted by sideswipe6520 on September 26th, 2022 @ 8:59am CDT
Why do I like this figure? I don't want to like it but I do based strictly off of photos.
I need to watch a review but the gimmick seems fun
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2145445)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 26th, 2022 @ 7:26pm CDT
Dibs, Dibs, I call review Dibs! Like that'll ever work. I ordered from Amazon and I'm supposed to get it next Tuesday.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2145768)
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2022 @ 12:26pm CDT
Lots of random Transformers Rise of the Beasts news to get to and they all relate to the mass market toys aimed at kids. Thanks to TF fan in the know Silver Optimus, we have some news regarding one of the more enigmatic listings we've had in the line: Beast Mode Bumblebee. Three full containers of just this toy arrived in ports, so we know it's coming and in big amounts. And we also know that it is 2 per case, meaning that it will be a big toy, like other Transformers toys packed 2 per case (leader class bots). So expect Beast Mode Bumblebee to be a big ticket kid friendly toy, similar to the Power Charge Bumblebee we got in the Bumblebee movie toyline. We still have no idea what animal it turns into.

Speaking of Bumblebee, the same source states that the one steps made for the Rise of the Beasts toyline have been repackaged to be in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee toyline. This is a bit more unexpected since these toys are the type that we find everywhere during a movie line, ever since Age of Extinction. It could be that the ones released now will be in that Target exclusive line while they will be rereleased in the actual Rise of the Beasts toyline next year. We'll see if these pop up before the end of the year, and there is some excitement for them since that would be a way for us to see the movie designs early.

Lastly, there is a new listing for ROTB Flex Changers. Hasbro does have a Bend and Flex subline it uses for other properties so it could simply be that they will be incorporating Transformers characters into it. Some of the toys in this line already have transforming elements, like vehicles turning into armour.
The specific listings for these are:
Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Flex Changers Cheetor (Hasbro Code: F4639)
Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Flex Changers Nightbird (Hasbro Code: F4638)

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2145784)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on September 29th, 2022 @ 3:53pm CDT
Didn't we know about the flex changers listings, like, weeks (maybe months) ago? I just remember submitting it....
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2146459)
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2022 @ 6:47pm CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Didn't we know about the flex changers listings, like, weeks (maybe months) ago? I just remember submitting it....


Like I said, we need help with the news. So if you find a story you'd like posted or shared with the community, write an article here (in your own words) and send us the link so we can refine it and post it.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2146461)
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2022 @ 7:02pm CDT
The "Big" Hasbro investors event was today but sadly, there wasn't much in it for fans. There was indeed a trailer for Rise of the Beasts but it was a closed door event, it wasn't released for the general public. There were a few slides pertaining to Rise of the Beasts. They unveiled Optimus's "new" look, which is mostly the look we had already seen both in Bumblebee and in previously revealed merchandise. The big difference are those plates above his chest windows.

We also have a very tiny image of a mock up for the display in the toy aisle for the ROTB toyline, with a big Optimus cutout. Hasbro is going hard on merchandise and toys for both the ROTB film and Earthspark, as can be seen on one of the slides below. Both toylines are aimed at children, while there will be some ROTB characters in the Studio Series line that older fans can also enjoy alongside kids.

Speaking of Earthspark, it was confirmed that the show will have a second season coming as well, and the same slide showing us the ROTB cutout also has out first look at Spin Changer Optimus' alt mode. And in other Transformers media news, they confirmed that there is still an animated Transformers movie coming out in 2024. We have selected the images and slides that may be of importance below. Some of the images come from TFW2005.com.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2146469)
Posted by TulioDude on October 4th, 2022 @ 8:46pm CDT
Saw this on some Youtbe comments; nice to see that Optimus is still doing similar poses as before.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2146483)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 4th, 2022 @ 10:35pm CDT
I have hopes for the animated '24 movie.

RoTB will be a streaming viewing in a couple of years, I just don't have any enthusiasm for it at all. So far only Scourge intrigues me. Maybe future reveals will change that.

Pretty much same with Earthspark. If I like it once it's out, I might get into it. So far, no vibes at all, good or bad.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2146487)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 4th, 2022 @ 10:45pm CDT
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2147453)
Posted by william-james88 on October 19th, 2022 @ 11:06pm CDT
While so far we have seen Smash and Change Optimus Prime in stores, we just got news that there will be at least 2 more toys like this coming out for the Rise of the Beasts (or Cyberverse line). Whichever line they are packaged in, they will definitely be the Rise of the Beasts designs, at least the preliminary ones. Thanks to a report from Silver Optimus, we know we will get a Rhinox and Optimus Primal done in the same gimmick/style. It will be interesting to see how animals are done in this gimmicky transformation of smashing down a figure. Below are the listings for the toys in this subgroup. They are all currently on US shores though we do not know when Primal and Rhinox will appear at retail.

Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime
Hasbro Code: F4642
Alternate Hasbro Code: F8067
Product Name: TRA MV7 Smash Changer Optimus Prime
Alternate Product Name: TRA Cyberverse Smash Changer Optimus Prm
EAN: 5010993958474
Alternate EAN: 5010994183769
Case Breakdown: 3 Per Case

Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Smash Changer Rhinox
Hasbro Code: F4643
Product Name: TRA MV7 Smash Changer Rhinox
EAN: 5010994113643
Case Breakdown: 3 Per Case

Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Primal
Hasbro Code: F4641
Product Name: TRA MV7 Smash Changer Optimus Primal
EAN: 5010993958801
Case Breakdown: 3 Per Case

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149548)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 19th, 2022 @ 9:03pm CST
A very SHORT video review of Airaizor:

https://youtube.com/shorts/DfOOKFeeGlM?feature=share
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149552)
Posted by william-james88 on November 19th, 2022 @ 10:23pm CST
Brett Rothe has posted a quick transformation video of Rise of the Beasts deluxe Airazor on youtube. They reached out to us directly to inform us and we thank them for the heads up. The transformation is quite ingenious since it completely removes a large chunk of the wings from the robot mode by having a part of them become the robot mode legs. This would have been a better transformation for making both Kingdom Airazor and Terrorsaur more cartoon accurate since their robot modes on the show had their wings either reduced or completely removed.

Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149553)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 19th, 2022 @ 10:29pm CST
"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"

Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149562)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 20th, 2022 @ 3:32am CST
Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"

Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.

You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149580)
Posted by Actar on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:11pm CST
There's already a transformation video/review on YouTube!

Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149582)
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:17pm CST
Brett Rothe has posted a quick transformation video of Rise of the Beasts deluxe Airazor on youtube. They reached out to us directly to inform us and we thank them for the heads up. The transformation is quite ingenious since it completely removes a large chunk of the wings from the robot mode by having a part of them become the robot mode legs. This would have been a better transformation for making both Kingdom Airazor and Terrorsaur more cartoon accurate since their robot modes on the show had their wings either reduced or completely removed.

Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149585)
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:39pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"

Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.

You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08


He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149586)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"

Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.

You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08


He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.

Now does this mean it can also be seen as him shielding everyone (even if inadvertently) from the abuse?
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149587)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:53pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"

Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.

You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08


He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.

Now does this mean it can also be seen as him shielding everyone (even if inadvertently) from the abuse?


Nah, just as yet another example of people needing one single scapegoat to focus on because paying attention to the multiple(!), more obvious causes is so not done >:oP
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149595)
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2022 @ 4:43pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"

Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.

You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08


He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.

Now does this mean it can also be seen as him shielding everyone (even if inadvertently) from the abuse?


It's not intentional, but we know he doesn't mind getting the blame for it. He's beyond it all as is demonstrated with him still involved with the brand and films while not shying away from letting us know.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2149598)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 20th, 2022 @ 5:06pm CST
If RoTB ends up the sub-par production I expect it to be, I won't be blaming Bay much, just a little. I think he deserves the majority of the blame for RoTF only. The other films are equally the result of everyone's efforts.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150761)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2022 @ 9:37am CST
The collectible retailer site Zavvi had a banner image up which has since been taken down, promoting the new Transformers toys for Rise of the Beasts. On it we see Battletrap and Bumblebee figures. This is our first look at the new Bumblebee toy and while it seems to have a similar level of detail to previous Studio Series toys, there are two lines with movie deluxes coming out at a similar time, so it's not confirmed in which line he will be released. While we see Bumblebee in his robot mode, we can tell that his alt mode is the off road Camaro which he becomes later in the film.

There are a few newsworthy bits to take from this single picture. Firstly, the head sculpt features parts not seen on Bumblebee's head in the trailer, which include his antennas and side vents. So that means that either he had not finished transforming in the trailer, or that this face sculpt is based on an older character model.

Also, these being official renders means that their announcement is soon. Or at least, one would hope since we had renders of a new Hatchet and Hound figure for months and they are still not revealed. So we'll see.

Let us know what you think of this new toy and if you'd add it to your collection!

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150776)
Posted by Overcracker on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:12am CST
Hatchet still looking really nice.

BB, looks like they took Bumblebee Movie BB and mashed it up with 2007 Bay Movie BB and got this.

It looks fairly simple though.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150777)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:14am CST
Overcracker wrote:Hatchet
Battletrap
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150781)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:29am CST
Here’s more pics of Bee, showing his accessories and pics of alt mode, which has stripes on the roof that are not on the actual Camaro in the movie.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150786)
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:45am CST
I think this BB looks great, like a chunkier, more solid version of the regular junker Camaro we have. I'm excited to see the rally-ready alt mode.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150789)
Posted by 84everfan on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:50am CST
They really need to abandon this mold, the wheels in front of the wings are so prominent you forget the doors are even there, it's so bulky and ugly and innaccurate
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150790)
Posted by Overcracker on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:50am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Hatchet
Battletrap

Right, Battletrap/. :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150792)
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:54am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Here’s more pics of Bee, showing his accessories and pics of alt mode, which has stripes on the roof that are not on the actual Camaro in the movie.

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Oooo, that car mode looks great, I do wish the car mode had more black paint on it to break up all that yellow like the screen model. Maybe they might change the layout before release...unless we're gonna have to wait for a "Premium Finish" version!
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150796)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:56am CST
I find that Battletrap pic rather interesting too. That detail of the missile on his chest is not something we had in the previous toys pictures right?
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150799)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:02pm CST
https://screenrant.com/transformers-ris ... 8gaov1Omtg

Article from Screenrant officially revealing SS-99 Battletrap and SS-100 Bumblebee from ROTB!

I like that Bee is 100 since SS-01 is 2007 76 Camaro Bumblebee, we've come full circle!
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150803)
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:09pm CST
£25 for a deluxe and £37 for a voyager. Available to preorder from indemand. 2023 is going to be a good year for not buying new toys.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150810)
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:55pm CST
Pulse has these for pre order now as well. Battletrap is 99, and BB is 100. I know several people here said SS100 would probably be nothing special, and you were right. I guess I was just hoping because "numbers". Oh well... 8-}

With that, we still don't know who 94, 97, and 98 are for Hasbro's SS numbers.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150811)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:55pm CST
We thank EvasionModeBumblebee for letting us know of two new Rise of the Beasts toys being officially revealed. Through a Screenrant article we get our first official looks at Transformers Studio Series SS-99 voyager Battletrap and SS-100 deluxe Bumblebee, both for the upcoming Rise of the Beasts movie. When you remember that SS-01 is the 2007 movie 76 Camaro Bumblebee, we've come full circle with SS 100. Below are images of these two toys in both their modes. They are available for preorder wherever you prefer buying your figures online. Even on international sites like Indemand toys where they are £25 for the deluxe and £37 for the voyager.

Here are some Amazon listings if you want more info:

Battletrap for 34.99: https://www.amazon.com/transformers-stu ... formers-20?tag=seibertron07-20&

Bumblebee for 24.99: https://www.amazon.com/transformers-tra ... formers-20?tag=seibertron07-20&
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2150991)
Posted by william-james88 on December 8th, 2022 @ 10:19am CST
here's some Transformers Rise of the Beasts merchandising news for you all, there will be a whole set of Funko Pops released for the characters in the film. We have listings of those upcoming vinyl figures. What's fun is that even if you are not a fan, Funko pops often give us a better look at characters. If images get unveiled soon, it could give us a better look at Scourge.

Here are the upcoming Pops:

Pop! Movies Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Vinyl Figure Arcee
Pop! Movies Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Vinyl Figure Bumblebee
Pop! Movies Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Vinyl Figure Mirage
Pop! Movies Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Vinyl Figure Optimus Primal
Pop! Movies Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Vinyl Figure Optimus Prime
Pop! Movies Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Vinyl Figure Scourge
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151364)
Posted by william-james88 on December 11th, 2022 @ 1:01pm CST
Lots of news dropped, all regarding toys aimed at younger Transformers fans. We have our first look at the bot mode for the upcoming Rise of the Beasts Bumblebee transforming mask from a Baidu post, as well as several new stock images for more kids' toys from e0bay seller rubyemerelite. We can see that the Dinobots Unite Cyberverse combiners are being rereleased in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line, to serve as evergreen type product on shelves for any gift giving needs, along with two brand new toys: Titan Changer Cheetor and Soundwave. These are 11 inches high and feature the evergreen style we see in other inexpensive Transformers toys. Looking at the back we see that they have a satisfying level of complexity for younger kids, especially Soundwave. Regardless if you are into these or not, it is impressive to see the level of detail on Cheetor's sculpting with a fresh take on his helmet giving it a more Samurai look than usual. As for Soundwave, Hasbro was able to make a simplified transformation without resorting for fake "tapedeck chest kibble" in the front of the vehicle as they had done on their previous simplified "evergreen/Cyberverse" Soundwaves.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151365)
Posted by TulioDude on December 11th, 2022 @ 1:26pm CST
These look neat, great to see that young children will able to have these characters like Chettor, avaliable in this class.

Day 1076 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151370)
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 3:16pm CST
So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151384)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:11pm CST
transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.


It's not children getting dumber, more like parents getting sue-happy whenever a child gets hurt by a toy. >:oP
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151385)
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:21pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:It's not children getting dumber, more like parents getting sue-happy whenever a child gets hurt by a toy. >:oP
Very true about the parents! Perhaps both are correct?
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151386)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:29pm CST
transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.


Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.

Tonka trucks were made of diecast metal.

And earlier than that, children were given ACTUAL FIREARMS AND NUCLEAR KITS.



It was also the time were kids were allowed to play "dangerous games" like tag and Jungle Gym. Kids are not "dumber". We make them so.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151394)
Posted by First-Aid on December 11th, 2022 @ 7:20pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.


Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.

Tonka trucks were made of diecast metal.

And earlier than that, children were given ACTUAL FIREARMS AND NUCLEAR KITS.



It was also the time were kids were allowed to play "dangerous games" like tag and Jungle Gym. Kids are not "dumber". We make them so.


Those were the good ol days. Anyone remember Woodburning kits? The superheated sharp object with a cord like 18 inches long? I LOVED our lawn darts, too. And chemistry sets! I tried so hard to make something that would blow up the house.....
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151395)
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 7:33pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Don't know about you, but at 5 years old, I had already figured out not to swallow toys.

-Kanrabat- wrote:And earlier than that, children were given ACTUAL FIREARMS AND NUCLEAR KITS.
Children in the US are still given actual firearms. Kinda sad a kid can have a real rifle, but not a G1 Megatron.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151399)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:15pm CST
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Don't know about you, but at 5 years old, I had already figured out not to swallow toys.


Little People were meant for 2yo+. I was around 3 when I had that farm:

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A kid can easily put one of those figure in it's mouth. I remember that I did. But swallowing it would take some serious skills.

Still, the modern toys are gigantic so they are not taking any chances.

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Back to transformers, The G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line. However, children that are YOUNGER than that do exist. Also, G1 Transformers cost way less to make at the time than they cost today. Generations toys too are now VERY expensive.

So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young and are purposely CHEAP. Parents usually don't want to give super expensive toys to their kids when they know the thing will be broken/ignored in minutes.

That's all.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151400)
Posted by Emerje on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:29pm CST
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Don't know about you, but at 5 years old, I had already figured out not to swallow toys.

The number on the front of the box is just who Hasbro is selling to, it has nothing to do with safety. Look on the back (even on Generations figures) and you'll see the safety warnings and the UK 3 and under restriction.

Emerje
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Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:43pm CST
Aw man! I want a nuclear set! :-(
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151404)
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:56pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line.


-Kanrabat- wrote:So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young...

So, very, VERY young is 6yo+? That makes no sense.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151405)
Posted by william-james88 on December 11th, 2022 @ 9:24pm CST
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line.


-Kanrabat- wrote:So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young...

So, very, VERY young is 6yo+? That makes no sense.


I have some of these titan changers and 6 + makes sense. They are more complex than many G1 figures (definitely more conpkex than G1 Optimus)

However, I don't know why the 1 steps aren't 4+, any 4 year old can transform them, even 3 year old could.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime Found In US Stores and on Amazon (2151429)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 5:16am CST
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line.


-Kanrabat- wrote:So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young...

So, very, VERY young is 6yo+? That makes no sense.


Must be corporate shenanigans because for many of these toys, I have the impression that they decide the "age" by throwing a dice.
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Posted by RotorstormNZ on December 12th, 2022 @ 5:31am CST
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