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Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit

Transformers News: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit

Sunday, May 7th, 2023 11:02PM CDT

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Hasbro/Paramount are ramping things up with there being only 1 month left before the release of Rise of the Beasts. We finally have a clip showing a lot of the main heroes meeting up for the first time. This gives us a good look at the finished CGI, the bots in motion, and how Arcee and Wheeljack talk. We do get a sense of what Wheeljack will look like for the majority of the film, which is without the "ears", and he does have to rearrange his glasses when being hit, as fans feared.

We also had another clip from a boxing match promotional crossover where we had half a second more of the previous trailer's footage giving us a good look at the exosuit. It is distinctly Mirage themed, lending credence to the test screenings we previously reported on where that exosuit is also Mirage's essence.



Link to promotional boxing spot: https://twitter.com/ROTBTrailer/status/ ... 4494096384


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Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160938)
Posted by First-Aid on May 7th, 2023 @ 11:24pm CDT
It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160939)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on May 7th, 2023 @ 11:35pm CDT
The exosuit is a reference to something. Even the pose in that shot looks familiar. I thought at first it was G1 Jazz's pretender shell, but I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160940)
Posted by william-james88 on May 7th, 2023 @ 11:48pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:The exosuit is a reference to something. Even the pose in that shot looks familiar. I thought at first it was G1 Jazz's pretender shell, but I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???


Looks very reminiscent of Kicker

Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160941)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 7th, 2023 @ 11:51pm CDT
So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.

Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160942)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:07am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.

Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.


I never thought those were implied to be the same characters
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160943)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:10am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:The exosuit is a reference to something. Even the pose in that shot looks familiar. I thought at first it was G1 Jazz's pretender shell, but I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???


Looks very reminiscent of Kicker


It's the white glass-front helmet and red chest vents that stand out to me specifically. I'm 90% certain it's something either from old packaging art or Marvel G1/G2.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160944)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:13am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.

Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.


I never thought those were implied to be the same characters
Where were you during the months of discourse over this guy:

Image

Not looking like this guy?

Image
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160945)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:30am CDT
I realize it's only one line, but I'm glad that Liza Koshy's take on Arcee seems to be decent. I was a tad worried when they announced her as Arcee, given my image of her as a YouTuber/"influencer", but I'll be glad to be wrong.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160955)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2023 @ 11:03am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So this clip pretty much confirms that both Mirage and Wheeljack, in contrast to both DOTM Dino and DOTM Que/BB Wheeljack, are youngsters.

Admittedly, there's still some wiggle-room with Mirage/Dino since the younger is at least still chronologically before the senior, But Wheeljack goes from a man to a boy to an old man in this chronology.


I never thought those were implied to be the same characters
Where were you during the months of discourse over this guy:

Image

Not looking like this guy?

Image


Talking more about the Que thing, I don't think those characters are related chronologically. Same for Mirage and Dino.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160956)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2023 @ 11:21am CDT
Here is some fun news, trailers all follow a similar formula and run time so during a projection glitch at a showing of the Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, both the trailers for The Little Mermaid and Transformers Rise of the Beasts played at the same time. It made for the ultimate film, as you can see in this clip posted on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/BlakeRobPerry/statu ... 93890?s=20

Enjoy!
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160957)
Posted by mech_dh on May 8th, 2023 @ 11:37am CDT
the exo suit reminds me of the ones the Headmaster Juniors would wear in Master Force
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160958)
Posted by First-Aid on May 8th, 2023 @ 11:44am CDT
That is awesome! Maybe the best improvement they can make to the horrific remake of the Little Mermaid ( like all of Disney's live action remakes of animated classics). I might pay to see both of them overlapping for the full length... :HEADHURTS:
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160960)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:15pm CDT
Much like Hasbro*, I'd love to see Disney return to animation. Coming from an Arty-Farty/creative background. I've always looked at Live Action Disney** with disdain.

*There are plenty of stories out there for Hasbro to make into animated movies. Maybe even abandoned projects like Animated Season 4 or Transtech could continue through such an outlet.

**The only Live Action exception I make. While not technically 100% Disney, is Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The very best kids movie ever made!

Meanwhile, back on topic. Myself and three friends went to see the BB movie upon release. We've booked a repeat outing for ROTB.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160961)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:17pm CDT
Holy Mother of Primus, it's:

SEA CHANGE The Movie!

Not an ep I'd have picked for a feature length update, but as a Disney X-over, it makes perfect sense!
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160962)
Posted by DeathReviews on May 8th, 2023 @ 12:28pm CDT
Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160964)
Posted by griftimus prime on May 8th, 2023 @ 1:16pm CDT
just a bad scene all around. till prime talks. and thats mostly just how well he delivered the lines. those people should have been so scared that ape was in front of them going nuts they would pass out or be laying down or something. stranger danger? just wow
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160966)
Posted by PhunkJunkion on May 8th, 2023 @ 2:05pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!

Just came here to applaud this comment.
:APPLAUSE:
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160967)
Posted by First-Aid on May 8th, 2023 @ 3:24pm CDT
PhunkJunkion wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!

Just came here to applaud this comment.
:APPLAUSE:


:BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160968)
Posted by Perceptor1996 on May 8th, 2023 @ 3:44pm CDT
It's cute that his exo-suit make him look like a mini Mirage.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160969)
Posted by DeathReviews on May 8th, 2023 @ 3:51pm CDT
PhunkJunkion wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Arial:
They've got gadgets and gizmos a-plenty!
They've got whozits and whatzits galore!
You want thing-a-ma-bobs? Each one's got twenty!
And if that - weren't enough?
They transfooooooorm....!

Just came here to applaud this comment.
:APPLAUSE:


Thanks!
Death: Master of entertainment
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160977)
Posted by Solrac333 on May 8th, 2023 @ 6:26pm CDT
The Little Mermaid: Rise of the Beasts. I"m glad they cast Peter Cullen as Ariel.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160981)
Posted by Quantum Surge on May 8th, 2023 @ 6:53pm CDT
I love both the scene we got and the goofy mashup.

First-Aid wrote:It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?

Having Jackie's VA play a new version of Alpha-5 would be neat for another PR reboot if they're using a few MMPR elements.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160995)
Posted by First-Aid on May 9th, 2023 @ 9:26am CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:I love both the scene we got and the goofy mashup.

First-Aid wrote:It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?

Having Jackie's VA play a new version of Alpha-5 would be neat for another PR reboot if they're using a few MMPR elements.


Eep! Cross-fanning! Too...much...nerdage....

:HEADHURTS: 8-} :-B
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2160998)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2023 @ 10:14am CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:I love both the scene we got and the goofy mashup.

First-Aid wrote:It's nice to see how much they've cleaned up the CGI in this scene from the teaser trailer. I'm also getting the feeling Mirage is kind of an idiot or maybe a Hot Shot (Armada) type character.

DId Wheeljack seriously go Alfa-5 on us in this spot?

Having Jackie's VA play a new version of Alpha-5 would be neat for another PR reboot if they're using a few MMPR elements.
We did just get back Richard Steven Horvitz for Alpha (8 and 9) in the MMPR 30th anniversary special a few weeks back.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161018)
Posted by william-james88 on May 9th, 2023 @ 10:46pm CDT
On TFW2005, there are probably 10 pages discussing the pros and cons of Mirage saying "stranger Danger" in the clip and how that can mean the film is terrible.
But if we step back a bit, it is kinda crazy that we are actually able to have such a discussion. That argument alone means that there is a transformers character in this film that is beign focused on regarding their personality. The only time we've ever had that in Bayverse is with Optimus and the discussion was the debate with him being a psycho or not.

It is pretty amazing that after all these years, we actually have a film with a group of Transformers where the robots will be the focus. Should have been this way from the start, but we've come a long way none the less.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161024)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 10th, 2023 @ 4:30am CDT
william-james88 wrote:On TFW2005, there are probably 10 pages discussing the pros and cons of Mirage saying "stranger Danger" in the clip and how that can mean the film is terrible.


That's totally random and hilarious! :lol:

Still, I'm curious to see if the robots will REALLY be the focus this time around.
I'm looking forward to June to find out.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161026)
Posted by Big Grim on May 10th, 2023 @ 6:11am CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:I think instead it must be a powermaster partner I'm thinking of???

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. It's definitely got the powermaster vibe.

~ Grim
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161035)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2023 @ 11:07am CDT
Let's face it, continuity in the Transformers franchise is out the door and it is not in any way something that Paramount gives much importance to. However, they do want to highlight chronology when looking at this franchise as a whole, so that the general audience knows where they are situated in this franchise's timeline. So in this official clip from Paramount below, the director reassesses where this film fits chronologically within the live action film series.
The clip also highlights three new characters: Noah, Elena and Mirage. It is cool that we actually get a highlight of a Transformers character, giving us insight into his personality, something we wouldn't get in the past with this franchise for characters not named Bumblebee or Optimus.

The clip give us new footage of the Museum setting filmed in Montreal and one second more of the fight with Primal vs Battletrap.

Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161036)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2023 @ 11:15am CDT
"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161037)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2023 @ 11:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.


Some people need clarification, plus it further highlights how Paramount sees all these live action films as one set of Transformers movies. They are staying far away from the R word here.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161038)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 10th, 2023 @ 12:10pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.


Some people need clarification, plus it further highlights how Paramount sees all these live action films as one set of Transformers movies. They are staying far away from the R word here.


Considering how common "R" words are these days, their proclivity towards keeping all the movies under one banner raises a few eyebrows. Makes me wonder if Transformers: One will "suffer" the same fate?

I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161040)
Posted by First-Aid on May 10th, 2023 @ 12:20pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"In chronological order, this is the second of the Transformers movies. It takes place in the '90s, shortly after Bumblebee."

Well, yeah. We knew that.


Some people need clarification, plus it further highlights how Paramount sees all these live action films as one set of Transformers movies. They are staying far away from the R word here.


Considering how common "R" words are these days, their proclivity towards keeping all the movies under one banner raises a few eyebrows. Makes me wonder if Transformers: One will "suffer" the same fate?

I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?


I've wondered about that myself. A prequel that sets up a sequel to TLK? Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron? Mirage would explain that, or perhaps surviving Maximals (being on the seashore could set up Depth Charge). The Transwarp keys could imprison Unicron's spark in the Earth somehow. That would be a "logical" setup. That would set up a two movie fight to keep Unicron from ripping the Earth apart.

Another possibility is that Scourge and the Terrorcons were called to Earth as Unicron is ALREADY the planet and the view we saw of Unicron from space and eating a planet was a flashback during an explanation of what he is.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161041)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 10th, 2023 @ 12:24pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Another possibility is that Scourge and the Terrorcons were called to Earth as Unicron is ALREADY the planet and the view we saw of Unicron from space and eating a planet was a flashback during an explanation of what he is.


I really hope this isn't the case.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161042)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2023 @ 12:55pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?
Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?
Yeah, that was Quintessa.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161043)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 10th, 2023 @ 1:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?
Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?
Yeah, that was Quintessa.


This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161044)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2023 @ 1:08pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?
Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?
Yeah, that was Quintessa.


This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.
You bring up a good point regarding the Matrix. If Optimus is ever revealed to already have it in this movie, then these movies will have officially proven to have a worse grasp on continuity than Power Rangers Super Megaforce, and that's BAD.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161046)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2023 @ 1:27pm CDT
It's not that these films have a bad grasp on continuity, it's that they don't care.
These movies make no sense continuity wise but are still part of the same chronology, as far as what Paramount is saying.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161048)
Posted by First-Aid on May 10th, 2023 @ 1:33pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?
Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?
Yeah, that was Quintessa.


This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.


The Primus aspect is interesting especially as Cybertron was in Earth Orbit at the end of TLK. If Unicron is Earth and he is awakening, then Primus would be there to "fight" him- likely on an "astral" scale and not in the physical aspect. Suddenly, restoration of the Allspark could become a MAJOR plot point as Primus's restoration would ALSO become paramount. An entire movie could center around that and the race to restore Primus to prevent Unicron from fully awakening and tearing the Earth to shreds.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161069)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2023 @ 8:18pm CDT
The new clips and stuff have me interested, I have enjoyed them. I also like how Mirage and Wheeljack do appear to be young guys, it's a cool touch.

Also, so glad to see how hard they are ramping up the marketing at last. The amount of posters and stuff has been crazy.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161087)
Posted by Spider5800 on May 11th, 2023 @ 9:08am CDT
The way they've marketed these, I think they're only setting these up as prequels to the first three films and ignoring AoE and TLK entirely. Kind of like how the Halloween movies basically ignored the films everyone hated and made sequels that were essentially reboots of the continuity.

And honestly? I can't blame them. I doubt the greater movie going public liked or even remembered those last two Bay films.

So with that in mind, I wouldn't count on anything we learned about Unicron in TLK to matter. Could still be Earth, could be a whole other thing, but I doubt anything we learned in later movies will be referenced here.

Realistically, Bumblebee was a reboot that barely holds up to scrutiny when compared to the other films (most of the character designs don't match, it's HEAVILY implied that Optimus and the others didn't arrive on Earth until Bumblebee found Sam, S7 should have already existed to warn the government about Shatter and Dropkick, etc), but whatever.
Re: Rise of the Beasts Movie News: Clip of Maximals meeting Autobots and Better Image of Noah in Exosuit (2161088)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 11th, 2023 @ 9:11am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I have a tingling feeling that perhaps Earth is indeed still Unicron? And the flashbacks we see are prior to his time as our homeworld? And perhaps Optimus must travel within the Earth to confront him (Hence why we see him literally eye-to-eye with the Cron man himself)?
Optimus in this movie mustn't find out about Unicron being Earth since that revelation comes as a shock to him later in TLK.

Unless he gets some kind of amnesia between movies, which would be bleh.

First-Aid wrote:Remember the post credit scene where there is a holographic human who is asking if we wanted to know how to beat Unicron?
Yeah, that was Quintessa.


This is a good point, that revelation seems to be news to all the Bots. That, and we see ancient texts depicting Earth's true nature as Unicron that were written waaay before the modern day.

Quintessa herself as a character brings up another good point; Are we going with the Quintesson "builder" creation story, or rolling it back to the Allspark? A mix? Unicron's presence also typically brings with it Primus and/or the Matrix (which Optimus shouldn't technically have...)

I think from a purely practical, non-fan perspective, that the studios simply don't care about the continuity of Unicron being whatever. Whatever happens in ROTB will probably be forgotten by the next one anyways; Maximals who?

There's only so much in-universe time between the current setting of "the 90's" and 2007 for the OG film.
You bring up a good point regarding the Matrix. If Optimus is ever revealed to already have it in this movie, then these movies will have officially proven to have a worse grasp on continuity than Power Rangers Super Megaforce, and that's BAD.


There is no series in the history of cinema with a worse sense of continuity than the Highlander franchise.
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Posted by Spider5800 on May 11th, 2023 @ 10:09am CDT
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:There is no series in the history of cinema with a worse sense of continuity than the Highlander franchise.


Ha, so true. That's kind of necessary though, there's basically no sequels unless you ignore the ending of the first movie. Never mind whatever the hell Highlander 2 was.
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Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2023 @ 10:11am CDT
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:There is no series in the history of cinema with a worse sense of continuity than the Highlander franchise.


I legit think this one has it beat.

Spider5800 wrote:The way they've marketed these, I think they're only setting these up as prequels to the first three films and ignoring AoE and TLK entirely. Kind of like how the Halloween movies basically ignored the films everyone hated and made sequels that were essentially reboots of the continuity.

And honestly? I can't blame them. I doubt the greater movie going public liked or even remembered those last two Bay films.

So with that in mind, I wouldn't count on anything we learned about Unicron in TLK to matter. Could still be Earth, could be a whole other thing, but I doubt anything we learned in later movies will be referenced here.


This is what I think as well and how I am seeing this film.
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Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2023 @ 12:03pm CDT
We have our most comprehensive interview yet with Transformers Rise of the Beasts' director Steven Caple Jr. While it reinforces many elements which fans have expressed disliking, like the push for diversity, rap culture, Michael Bay helping with the film and ensuring the preservation of the Bayverse, it does give us something very refreshing compared to all other Transformers films: a focus on the robots as characters the audience can truly care about. While we did have that with Bumblebee, that film was centered around the nostalgic concept of a human befriending an alien creature (who could not talk), learning about our world. This film instead is about teams of robots, each made up of distinct characters, with their own personalities and reasons for acting as they do.

Here is the blurb concerning what the director hopes to accomplish with this film and you can read the entire interview from the Hollywood Reporter here.

I hope it’s not a cheesy answer, but I want people to be able to connect with the new Transformers that we’re creating. Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film. But, if anything, I just really want people to be able to emotionally connect with the Transformers that you know and the new [Transformers] that we’re bringing to the table. I’m not here to just create robots for you to say, “Yeah, that was cool. That was fun.” I want you to be like, “I really truly care about [Optimus] Primal. I really truly care about Airazor and these other characters,” because this is the foundation for what I would love the franchise to be going forward. And a lot of the stuff in this film is a huge setup for where the franchise can go, so I’m excited for people to check that out.
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Posted by First-Aid on May 11th, 2023 @ 12:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:We have our most comprehensive interview yet with Transformers Rise of the Beasts' director Steven Caple Jr. While it reinforces many elements which fans have expressed disliking, like the push for diversity, rap culture, Michael Bay helping with the film and ensuring the preservation of the Bayverse, it does give us something very refreshing compared to all other Transformers films: a focus on the robots as characters the audience can truly care about. While we did have that with Bumblebee, that film was centered around the nostalgic concept of a human befriending an alien creature (who could not talk), learning about our world. This film instead is about teams of robots, each made up of distinct characters, with their own personalities and reasons for acting as they do.

Here is the blurb concerning what the director hopes to accomplish with this film and you can read the entire interview from the Hollywood Reporter here.

I hope it’s not a cheesy answer, but I want people to be able to connect with the new Transformers that we’re creating. Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film. But, if anything, I just really want people to be able to emotionally connect with the Transformers that you know and the new [Transformers] that we’re bringing to the table. I’m not here to just create robots for you to say, “Yeah, that was cool. That was fun.” I want you to be like, “I really truly care about [Optimus] Primal. I really truly care about Airazor and these other characters,” because this is the foundation for what I would love the franchise to be going forward. And a lot of the stuff in this film is a huge setup for where the franchise can go, so I’m excited for people to check that out.


Wait what? Transformer character development? Want the connection? Holy crap!
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Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2023 @ 12:36pm CDT
By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.

I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.

We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 11th, 2023 @ 12:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.

I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.

We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.

Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.
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Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:05pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.

I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.

We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.

Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.


With a 7 year old girl and a 5 year old boy, I'll probably be at the movies all through the coming weeks. We've got Little Mermaid, ROTB, The Flash, Elemental and Indiana Jones. All films I'm planning on watching. It's really packed, the films sudios should have left room for these movies to breathe.
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Posted by DeathReviews on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:19pm CDT
They won't get us to 'care' about the Transformers if they give them the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
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Posted by First-Aid on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:23pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.


Fixed your post for you.

I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.

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