RID (2015) Wave 3 Jazz And Sideswipe Found At US Retail

Rodimus Minor wrote:I am verry disappointed in Warrior Sideswipe I was looking forward to him but after seeing 3 reviews he is a bit of a let down. What do you guys think

I found him yesterday, and I agree with the general sentiment. Car mode is REALLY nice (and the pale kanji makes it look like the car is intentionally bi-coloured rather than paint and plastic being off from one another) but his robot mode doesn't want to quite hold together. It's not as bad as say, Blitzwing; you can move his arms around a bit without his upper body coming apart, but if you try to get any dynamic poses you will be pegging him back together. It just seems as if the designer underestimated how deep the connector pegs would need to be due to the soft oily plastic used.

In short he's a quite reasonable figure to get at retail value, especially if you're trying to get all onscreen characters but don't go mad hunting him down.

Sideswipe can work with a little effort.

First, make sure the chest plate is securely fastened against his sternum.
Second, gently slide the shoulders into place and make sure the tiny pegs are actually sitting in the tiny holes. (This is the hardest part.)
Finally, push the hood piece up against the fenders/collar and it'll force the shoulders to lock in and he becomes poseable.

If you bump the hood loose, however, the whole thing comes apart. (Terrible design.) It also gives him tremendous backpack.

AB32 your optimism is always appreciated.
I am sad to hear he is kind of a turd. Probably wont stop me from getting him. I'm a sucker like that.
I will say, I picked up Legion Swipe the other day. He's real fun. If your into that kinda thing. He has really nice leg and feet articulation.(again, for a Legion.)

Autobot032 wrote:Sideswipe can work with a little effort.

First, make sure the chest plate is securely fastened against his sternum.
Second, gently slide the shoulders into place and make sure the tiny pegs are actually sitting in the tiny holes. (This is the hardest part.)
Finally, push the hood piece up against the fenders/collar and it'll force the shoulders to lock in and he becomes poseable.

If you bump the hood loose, however, the whole thing comes apart. (Terrible design.) It also gives him tremendous backpack.

Yeah I discovered using the backpack works like you said. I find it interesting that thus far the toys of the non main cast have tended to be better. Drift? Phenomenal. Jazz? Perfect.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Sideswipe can work with a little effort.

First, make sure the chest plate is securely fastened against his sternum.
Second, gently slide the shoulders into place and make sure the tiny pegs are actually sitting in the tiny holes. (This is the hardest part.)
Finally, push the hood piece up against the fenders/collar and it'll force the shoulders to lock in and he becomes poseable.

If you bump the hood loose, however, the whole thing comes apart. (Terrible design.) It also gives him tremendous backpack.

Yeah I discovered using the backpack works like you said. I find it interesting that thus far the toys of the non main cast have tended to be better. Drift? Phenomenal. Jazz? Perfect.

I think Bumblebee has a nice balance, but he's got some issues, sure.

Grimlock seems to be nice and solid, just wish he had a weapon of some kind.

Shellformery she may be, but I genuinely like transforming Strongarm back and forth. She poses well, too.

Steeljaw makes for a nice villain with that beast mode and poseable tail, but yeah, he's kind of weak in that wave.

Optimus? Don't own. Can't comment.

Drift? Much like Bumblebee, well balanced, but has a nice range of motion. Just wish his legs weren't hollow.

Jazz? SOLID. Fantastic figure!

Sideswipe? Visually appealing, if you transform him a certain way, he works. In anything else, he's kind of a pain. His transformation is too complex for a kids line, his vehicle mode looks kinda ugly, honestly and he can't hold his sword to save his life.

It's like he's an afterthought and they said "Meh, do it."

Autobot032 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Sideswipe can work with a little effort.

First, make sure the chest plate is securely fastened against his sternum.
Second, gently slide the shoulders into place and make sure the tiny pegs are actually sitting in the tiny holes. (This is the hardest part.)
Finally, push the hood piece up against the fenders/collar and it'll force the shoulders to lock in and he becomes poseable.

If you bump the hood loose, however, the whole thing comes apart. (Terrible design.) It also gives him tremendous backpack.

Yeah I discovered using the backpack works like you said. I find it interesting that thus far the toys of the non main cast have tended to be better. Drift? Phenomenal. Jazz? Perfect.

I think Bumblebee has a nice balance, but he's got some issues, sure.

Grimlock seems to be nice and solid, just wish he had a weapon of some kind.

Shellformery she may be, but I genuinely like transforming Strongarm back and forth. She poses well, too.

Steeljaw makes for a nice villain with that beast mode and poseable tail, but yeah, he's kind of weak in that wave.

Optimus? Don't own. Can't comment.

Drift? Much like Bumblebee, well balanced, but has a nice range of motion. Just wish his legs weren't hollow.

Jazz? SOLID. Fantastic figure!

Sideswipe? Visually appealing, if you transform him a certain way, he works. In anything else, he's kind of a pain. His transformation is too complex for a kids line, his vehicle mode looks kinda ugly, honestly and he can't hold his sword to save his life.

It's like he's an afterthought and they said "Meh, do it."

Sideswipe can hold the sword quite well, the trick is to not push it all the way in, yeah I know that sounds weird.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Sideswipe can work with a little effort.

First, make sure the chest plate is securely fastened against his sternum.
Second, gently slide the shoulders into place and make sure the tiny pegs are actually sitting in the tiny holes. (This is the hardest part.)
Finally, push the hood piece up against the fenders/collar and it'll force the shoulders to lock in and he becomes poseable.

If you bump the hood loose, however, the whole thing comes apart. (Terrible design.) It also gives him tremendous backpack.

Yeah I discovered using the backpack works like you said. I find it interesting that thus far the toys of the non main cast have tended to be better. Drift? Phenomenal. Jazz? Perfect.

I think Bumblebee has a nice balance, but he's got some issues, sure.

Grimlock seems to be nice and solid, just wish he had a weapon of some kind.

Shellformery she may be, but I genuinely like transforming Strongarm back and forth. She poses well, too.

Steeljaw makes for a nice villain with that beast mode and poseable tail, but yeah, he's kind of weak in that wave.

Optimus? Don't own. Can't comment.

Drift? Much like Bumblebee, well balanced, but has a nice range of motion. Just wish his legs weren't hollow.

Jazz? SOLID. Fantastic figure!

Sideswipe? Visually appealing, if you transform him a certain way, he works. In anything else, he's kind of a pain. His transformation is too complex for a kids line, his vehicle mode looks kinda ugly, honestly and he can't hold his sword to save his life.

It's like he's an afterthought and they said "Meh, do it."

Sideswipe can hold the sword quite well, the trick is to not push it all the way in, yeah I know that sounds weird.

Huh...I see the notch on the handle now. The thumb rests right in it, yeah. Weird design choice. He's more for posing, than for playing. Jazz, on the other hand, does both.

The new class of Transformers: Robots in Disguise toys, Deployers, has been seen at NY Toy Fair - in video form too - but we now have official stock photography in addition to the one previously released of both Decepticon Fracture (with Airrazor) and Autobot Drift (with Jetstorm) thanks to the Peruvian Hasbro Transformers site! Check out the mirrored images below.

These stock photo kids... Still creepy in a Pleasantville kind of way.

These mini-cons cannot come soon enough.

It would be really cool if Fracture's mini bot could ride Fracture in hover bike mode.

so this is the new version of the FOC Data Disc dudes? Technically same universe family and all.

One thing I do like is that the accessory sprue is the shape of the faction symbols. That was a cool idea.

I'm liking those little guys. When they are pegged on the sprue, it looks as if there are coursing with energy during transformation.

-Kanrabat- wrote:These stock photo kids... Still creepy in a Pleasantville kind of way.

Can't help but notice that other fan sites drop those pics from their news threads.

Noideaforaname wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These stock photo kids... Still creepy in a Pleasantville kind of way.

Can't help but notice that other fan sites drop those pics from their news threads.

They.. they looked at me. They demanded to be seen.

They will it so. I comply. We all comply.

Rodimus Minor wrote:I am verry disappointed in Warrior Sideswipe I was looking forward to him but after seeing 3 reviews he is a bit of a let down. What do you guys think

I was also looking forward to him. Hopefully Hasbro or takara will correct this in later releases. I wont buy him till he is on deep discount simply to not be disappointed in my purchase. The transformation looks great though!

-Kanrabat- wrote:These stock photo kids... Still creepy in a Pleasantville kind of way.

Yes, yes they are.

Still can't tell if these are Deluxe or Voyager class robot height toys?

If Fracture is a Voyager class robot, Then i'll buy it. Like the design and colors. Hover bike is very original.

Don't like the Drift design or colors. regardless of size i'm not interested. Robot doesn't seem too articulated. Robot Sculpt and colors remind me of a Power Rangers Zord toy.

The minicons do look interesting in sculpt and gimmick but not very articulated.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Still can't tell if these are Deluxe or Voyager class robot height toys?

If Fracture is a Voyager class robot, Then i'll buy it. Like the design and colors. Hover bike is very original.

Don't like the Drift design or colors. regardless of size i'm not interested. Robot doesn't seem too articulated. Robot Sculpt and colors remind me of a Power Rangers Zord toy.

The minicons do look interesting in sculpt and gimmick but not very articulated.

Yeah, the minicons definitely look better than the actual deployers themselves. I hope I can get all the minicons individually and not have to buy the bigger two packs to complete the mystery figure you can make with all the clear plastic accessories.

Also, I dont think these are deluxes or voyagers, these are more akin to the megas of the beast war era (like Inferno and Polarclaw).

Also, stop bashing that kid, he's cute and not that creepy (it's the older kids that creep me out). Kudos to him landing this modelling gig and being paid more than any of us for an hour of his time (when he gets work, of course).

And lastly, while sideswipe may not be great, there is a whole bunch of paint and clear plastic usage, reminding me of the previous RID (2001) figures (in a good way). Someone said that Takara's Groove couldnt have been made by Hasbro due to using clear plastic in the deluxe class. Well, with Sideswipe here, I don't think that specific part of the argument holds water anymore.

The deployers look good but I'm disappointed that Drift and Fracture don't come with weapons for themselves.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The deployers look good but I'm disappointed that Drift and Fracture don't come with weapons for themselves.

Not trying to be a wisenhiemer, but one could argue that their deployers ARE their weapons. That said, I agree. Whats Drift without his swords?

These seem smaller than I remember seeing at Toy Fair. Actually kind of relieved, because then they wont take up as much realestate on the shelf.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Minor wrote:I am verry disappointed in Warrior Sideswipe I was looking forward to him but after seeing 3 reviews he is a bit of a let down. What do you guys think

I was also looking forward to him. Hopefully Hasbro or takara will correct this in later releases. I wont buy him till he is on deep discount simply to not be disappointed in my purchase. The transformation looks great though!

My gripes are he has 5 different shades of red on him, his hair scrapes along the floor and his arms don't peg together well I am glad I am having Jazz my Brother can have Shite swipe. Sorry that was harsh

william-james88 wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Still can't tell if these are Deluxe or Voyager class robot height toys?

If Fracture is a Voyager class robot, Then i'll buy it. Like the design and colors. Hover bike is very original.

Don't like the Drift design or colors. regardless of size i'm not interested. Robot doesn't seem too articulated. Robot Sculpt and colors remind me of a Power Rangers Zord toy.

The minicons do look interesting in sculpt and gimmick but not very articulated.

Also, stop bashing that kid, he's cute and not that creepy (it's the older kids that creep me out). Kudos to him landing this modelling gig and being paid more than any of us for an hour of his time (when he gets work, of course).

Please if your going to post this, clarify that I didn't say it. Others might think it was me bashing the kid.

I didn't bash this kid.

Think it might have been best to quote and reply to others who bashed the kid.

Tsutsukakushi wrote: it was me bashing the kid.

I bash this kid.

You mean quote you like this?


Just joking. I didnt quote you saying anything wrong about the kid because you didnt in the post I did quote. I just didnt want to make a post too long. by quoting everyone. Anyone with half a brain could realize you didnt say anything wrong, you're a good guy with an endearing writing style.

william-james88 wrote:Anyone with half a brain

That's an awfully lot of credit being given to the "internet".

Found Jazz today. He is real cool. Like Miles Davis cool.
His transformation is so awesomely akin to his G1 self. Real intuitive and smooth. Proof again that the Jazz/Datsun transformation is a classic that's withstood the test of time. Really like how the arms form the front end of the car. He has some hollowness, but I think he looks pretty good. Maybe because he's mostly white helps his lack of paint not be so jarring. The paint he does have is applied nicely.
Solid figure, fun transform, decent articulation, and cool alt mode.

Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

Cobotron wrote:Found Jazz today. He is real cool. Like Miles Davis cool.
His transformation is so awesomely akin to his G1 self. Real intuitive and smooth. Proof again that the Jazz/Datsun transformation is a classic that's withstood the test of time. Really like how the arms form the front end of the car. He has some hollowness, but I think he looks pretty good. Maybe because he's mostly white helps his lack of paint not be so jarring. The paint he does have is applied nicely.
Solid figure, fun transform, decent articulation, and cool alt mode.

Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

Cobotron wrote:Found Jazz today. He is real cool. Like Miles Davis cool.
His transformation is so awesomely akin to his G1 self. Real intuitive and smooth. Proof again that the Jazz/Datsun transformation is a classic that's withstood the test of time. Really like how the arms form the front end of the car. He has some hollowness, but I think he looks pretty good. Maybe because he's mostly white helps his lack of paint not be so jarring. The paint he does have is applied nicely.
Solid figure, fun transform, decent articulation, and cool alt mode.

Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

How is the buttflap an javelin accessory? And how is the artarticulation? Is this guy better than drift?

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Found Jazz today. He is real cool. Like Miles Davis cool.
His transformation is so awesomely akin to his G1 self. Real intuitive and smooth. Proof again that the Jazz/Datsun transformation is a classic that's withstood the test of time. Really like how the arms form the front end of the car. He has some hollowness, but I think he looks pretty good. Maybe because he's mostly white helps his lack of paint not be so jarring. The paint he does have is applied nicely.
Solid figure, fun transform, decent articulation, and cool alt mode.

Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

How is the buttflap an javelin accessory? And how is the artarticulation? Is this guy better than drift?

There is no butt flap, the Javelin is alright but the lack of wrist articulation makes it difficult to hold in any real Javelin poses.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Found Jazz today. He is real cool. Like Miles Davis cool.
His transformation is so awesomely akin to his G1 self. Real intuitive and smooth. Proof again that the Jazz/Datsun transformation is a classic that's withstood the test of time. Really like how the arms form the front end of the car. He has some hollowness, but I think he looks pretty good. Maybe because he's mostly white helps his lack of paint not be so jarring. The paint he does have is applied nicely.
Solid figure, fun transform, decent articulation, and cool alt mode.

Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

How is the buttflap an javelin accessory? And how is the artarticulation? Is this guy better than drift?

The butt/back flap tabs in nicely to his back. Lance is fine. Glad it can be held upright.
Articulation is over all fine. Weakest part is the shoulders. A lot like Prime Bee. Nice play in the ankles, and feet are nice and big for balance.

He's good, but my gut says 2nd to Drift. Nostalgia is working on me too though.

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

Glad you like him! Buuut... I'm surprised to hear you say that the lack of paint helps his hollowness and you're ok with it, cause it sure didn't help Jetfire. Not that I'm trying to hate, I love Jetfire, but I honestly see myself skipping Jazz, at least in favour of a better deco'd Takara version.

shajaki wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

Glad you like him! Buuut... I'm surprised to hear you say that the lack of paint helps his hollowness and you're ok with it, cause it sure didn't help Jetfire. Not that I'm trying to hate, I love Jetfire, but I honestly see myself skipping Jazz, at least in favour of a better deco'd Takara version.

Yeah, at the current prices, I dont see myself buying the hasbro version to any of these, aside from probable alternate decos that are hasbro exclusive. Or TRU exclusives that will be super reduced in price (like the Predacon rising toys i bought from target). More info on this soon...

william-james88 wrote:More info on this soon...

Ya big tease

I plan on picking up my mini me as soon as I see him at retail. I'm glad to hear positive reviews of the figure.

Pretty big news for the Robots in Disguise line. We previously wrote a long list of upcoming figures hinted at in the app. Some of them had a "Clash" subtitle which hinted at another sub-line. Well we finally have confirmation, and not just from Hasbro, but from an actual sighting in Australia (provided by Ozformers).

The sighting lets us know that the Clash of Transformers is a sub-line of Toysrus exclusive redecos of the legion class. It is also so far the only way of procuring Legion Megatronus and the pictures offer us the very first look at this toy.

The two packs found are Bumblebee VS Underbite and Optimus Prime VS Megatronus, whose pictures can be found below. They were found in at Toys R Us in Parramatta, Australia, and each pack was 20$ AUD.

Thought Megatronus was holding a handbag in that artwork.

Ok, so if this goes with the Aligned continuity is Megatronus supposed to be Megatronus Prime? The Fallen?Or just some dude calling himself Megatronus like Megatron did?

Optimizzy wrote:Ok, so if this goes with the Aligned continuity is Megatronus supposed to be Megatronus Prime? The Fallen?Or just some dude calling himself Megatronus like Megatron did?

We don't know yet but you will get a better chance of answers in the actual show thread which deals with story.

william-james88 wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:Ok, so if this goes with the Aligned continuity is Megatronus supposed to be Megatronus Prime? The Fallen?Or just some dude calling himself Megatronus like Megatron did?

We don't know yet but you will get a better chance of answers in the actual show thread which deals with story.

No he won't, no one knows at all yet I'm curious what the deal is too. Is this some weird upgraded version of a villain we've already seen? The toy's alt mode is a lot like Shockwave's, something to do with him?

I personally think it's Steeljaw + Dark Energon of some kind, thanks to the art we've seen on the toy's box (see, can totally make this discussion about toys while avoiding the show thread since I'm behind and I'm trying to avoid spoilers )

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:Ok, so if this goes with the Aligned continuity is Megatronus supposed to be Megatronus Prime? The Fallen?Or just some dude calling himself Megatronus like Megatron did?

We don't know yet but you will get a better chance of answers in the actual show thread which deals with story.

No he won't, no one knows at all yet I'm curious what the deal is too. Is this some weird upgraded version of a villain we've already seen? The toy's alt mode is a lot like Shockwave's, something to do with him?

I personally think it's Steeljaw + Dark Energon of some kind, thanks to the art we've seen on the toy's box (see, can totally make this discussion about toys while avoiding the show thread since I'm behind and I'm trying to avoid spoilers )

I meant that when we do know, it will probably first be mentioned in that thread instead of this one, hence why I recommend he follows it if he wants to know the answer one day.

ScottyP wrote:The toy's alt mode is a lot like Shockwave's, something to do with him?

Always a possibility. Reminds me of the TransTech/Armada Megatron H-tank, though

Also, what is going on with Bumblebee's head and chest?

Yeah, I'll pick up that two-pack for Megatronus. I've already got the original Legion Optimus, but another in vaguely Ultra Magnus colors won't hurt.

I'm also eager to see who precisely this character is. My guess would be Megatronus Prime, which would make sense given that the rest of the Primes are sending another Prime back to take care of him. I would also prefer it not to be Megatron in any shape or form, since he got such a good send-off in Predacons Rising.

This subline is necessary.



Actually, Megatronus looks pretty cool. I wanna see the Deluxe, though.

Another white Prime that isn't Ultra Magnus. That's two this year.

So "Clash" is like the "Predacons Rising" subline that Target got.

william-james88 wrote:
I meant that when we do know, it will probably first be mentioned in that thread instead of this one, hence why I recommend he follows it if he wants to know the answer one day.

meh. I dont care that much

BlueBefore wrote:Another white Prime that isn't Ultra Magnus. That's two this year.

We're on a roll!

shajaki wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Plus, now I got my own Carytheone action figure.

Glad you like him! Buuut... I'm surprised to hear you say that the lack of paint helps his hollowness and you're ok with it, cause it sure didn't help Jetfire. Not that I'm trying to hate, I love Jetfire, but I honestly see myself skipping Jazz, at least in favour of a better deco'd Takara version.

Well, is that what I said? What I meant is, he's got some glaring hallowness (which we've all come to expect these days, take it or leave it), and that maybe the fact that he is mostly white is why his lack of paint apps seems less jarring. To me, anyways. No this didn't help Jetfire. (No hate. )

You can bet your lil buns Takara's will be prettier than this, and he will be well worth waiting for.
You guys should thank me for taking the bullet for you.

Another thought. I could see this mold getting re-deco'd/re-tooled into Prowl.

And my reaction to the latest news...
OH GOODIE! MORE LEGIONS!!!!!

PrymeStriker wrote:This subline is necessary.



Actually, Megatronus looks pretty cool. I wanna see the Deluxe, though.

It doesnt hurt though. To me it is the very same as that predacon rising subline at Target. And that one got us some pretty fun stuff like an homage to Tunderclash.

Sabrblade wrote:So "Clash" is like the "Predacons Rising" subline that Target got.

Damn, you beat me to it. Yeah, this is exactly what this is. With unexplained decos and all. I have no clue what that underbite is supposed to refer to.

Optimizzy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
I meant that when we do know, it will probably first be mentioned in that thread instead of this one, hence why I recommend he follows it if he wants to know the answer one day.

meh. I dont care that much

BlueBefore wrote:Another white Prime that isn't Ultra Magnus. That's two this year.

With one of those coming from a line that also gave us a proper white-cab car carrier to red white and blue robot Ultra Magnus, I'm okay with that.

That Bot wrote:

BlueBefore wrote:Another white Prime that isn't Ultra Magnus. That's two this year.

With one of those coming from a line that also gave us a proper white-cab car carrier to red white and blue robot Ultra Magnus, I'm okay with that.

Well, RID also has an ultra magnus coming: