Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24

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Don't You
(Spoiler free-ish)

Synopsis
All they wanted was an adventure. Now, as worlds turn to dust and every sacred truth is undone, as everything they’ve run from catches up with them and every gruesome future comes to pass.

Only two issues left! Closing a story six years in the making! Don’t miss the B cover by beloved Transformers artist Geoff Senior!

feat. Shinji Ikari

Story
This is it. This is the end. Almost, I know. But this is the end. This is the flash before the finale, and everything we've seen in a long series, with stories starting all the way back in the first Chaos seeds reaching some kind of conclusion, before they actually conclude next issue, and attempting some form of closure. Starting with gods and life.

fight! super robot lifeforms

A first warning: if you're expecting a big action scene, or even a series of action scenes, how are you still living in denial with Lost Light? There is plenty of action, of course - they're fighting a planet from a planet, one which is also a giant robotic being powered by bigoted spite - but James Roberts' strength is still in the smaller moments between characters. Those, in this issue, abound.

MVPs

And in that action frame with people stories, then, we have the one, bigger story that no one expected until a couple of issue ago, the one that people were most likely to forget, most likely to get wrung, but that somehow still rang a bell, that somehow still brings a conclusion after a conclusion, even when plans only work in panicked extremis.

...

Where previous attempts at balancing heartfelt, passionate dialogue/monologue during action have been admittedly questionable (at least in terms of pacing), this issue seems to have found the better solution - tonally, pacing-wise, structurally - to weigh out the different aspects to telling this type of ending, using strengths and weaknesses alike.

Art

Brendan Cahill returns for the issue, after we last saw him in #22, and whatever he's been doing in the meantime has only made him more powerful. The issue contains some of the most tender and heart-rending moments for pretty much the entirety of the cast present in its pages, and Cahill's art has been able to work all of the right emotions into the motions, the gestures, the silent panels, all while keeping giant Functionist Primus in the peripheral vision of it all.

Take a load of this, too

And Joana Lafuente has made sure that the peripheral vision is something no one can ignore, be it explosions, sudden changes in light sources and direction, mood flickering, tone shifting, crucial moments and smaller, tender interactions - the light and colour fit all, snugly, and just right.

it's really hard to spotlight this without spoilers

It's almost impossible to distinguish Curtis and Tom by now, and if you're not in on the joke, please bear with me - but what Long is managing to do with fonts is truly impressive, given the already emotional charge of pretty much everything else in the visual aspect of the book.

All the covers, as usual, can be found in our Vector Sigma Database entry here, though the one spotlighted in the thumbnail is once more the Geoff Senior / Josh Burcham variant featuring Rung himself, for once taking charge of the situation - almost like Rodimus.

Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

And so, where do we stand now? This is the finale, no matter what the next issue decides to conjure up in its denouement, and as an ending it fits everything that the creators have set up from the start - sometimes literally, sometimes thematically - and it will definitely leave an impact on readers and TF lore (here's hoping, at least), for the principles and themes if not the execution.

also, gayest issue ever

Does it cancel out my troubles with the series up to now? No, but I don't think anything will. What it does do is sidestep to tell a wider story that no longer focuses on the alleged main characters, while also focusing on those very same characters - from Team Rodimus to Megatron's AntiVocationist League, to the Scavengers and more - in a way that we may have expected after all, and reminding us very much so of the influences, the setting, and the lineage of this type of story, and of Transformers as an icon.

out of

Bonus Tracks:

The Shepherd's Boy - Murray Gold
Don't You (Forget About Me) - Simple Minds (my addition)

Credit(s): IDW

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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986134)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 26th, 2018 @ 4:37am CDT

A good review Va'al, I'm going to miss this series. Its mot been perfect but I've liked it and been enjoyed which is all I can ask for really.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986143)
Posted by YoungPrime on September 26th, 2018 @ 7:23am CDT

It started off a little rocky for me but overall I find this to be the best Transformers ongoing story to date.

Despite some minor issues, to me MTMTE/LL still puts most of the previous comics, TV cartoons and ALL of that Bay crap to shame.

I can live without Barber's ongoing but Roberts work will truly be missed.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986144)
Posted by Ironhidensh on September 26th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT

Megatron just can't forgive himself.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986146)
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2018 @ 7:47am CDT

Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron just can't forgive himself.

And here I thought all my feelings about this book had been wrung out like a dishcloth. Good catch!

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986156)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 26th, 2018 @ 9:15am CDT

So if Rodimus used the Warren to send the message back into the past, can't they use it to travel to the Unicron story's time and join the fight?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986162)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on September 26th, 2018 @ 9:52am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:So if Rodimus used the Warren to send the message back into the past, can't they use it to travel to the Unicron story's time and join the fight?

Are they even aware of Unicron?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986170)
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2018 @ 10:50am CDT

Doctor McGrath wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So if Rodimus used the Warren to send the message back into the past, can't they use it to travel to the Unicron story's time and join the fight?

Are they even aware of Unicron?

Nope.

Or at least not yet.

If Unicron really does want to wipe out Cybertronian life, maybe they're on his clean-up quest list?

With one issue left I don't know how to feel about it. On one hand, "Primus" vs Unicron yes please, on the other, is there time for that now?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986173)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 26th, 2018 @ 10:55am CDT

Honestly if they pulled Primus vs unicron now it would feel cheap, there's two issues of unicron left and op 25 to provide closure. A fight like Primus vs unicron needs build up, something they just don't have and would cheapen everything. Best save it for the next contuity ;-)

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986184)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 26th, 2018 @ 12:06pm CDT

Besides, with the Functionist Council wiped out, can anyone even control "Primus?" Maybe Rodimus with the Matrix? I would love it if Megatron took control of it/him like Fort Max did with the dead Titan in Titans Return.

As for a "Primus" vs. "Unicron" fight being too late, I think it all depends on what happens next. If this had been planned well in advance by the writers, it can still be pulled off. Sure, it wouldn't be the actual Primus fighting the actual Unicron, but IDW is not actual G1, so it doesn't matter. We still have a total of 4 issues coming out among the 3 books, so as long as they come out in order, it should work.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986191)
Posted by snavej on September 26th, 2018 @ 12:59pm CDT

'Gayest issue ever'?! Careful, that could be taken as a positive or a negative. Maybe just say something like 'Relationship development continues'.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986211)
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2018 @ 2:45pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:We still have a total of 4 issues coming out among the 3 books, so as long as they come out in order, it should work.

I'm not entirely hopeful that OP 24 and Unicron 5 won't trip over themselves. That said, the three finales have had roughly the same release order since the beginning, so although the actual release dates have drifted into the future quite a bit it seems pretty deliberate to have LL 25 -> Unicron 6 -> OP 25 so I have hope that those will be out in order or at least simultaneously.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986214)
Posted by Va'al on September 26th, 2018 @ 2:56pm CDT

snavej wrote:'Gayest issue ever'?! Careful, that could be taken as a positive or a negative. Maybe just say something like 'Relationship development continues'.

Nope, totally gay. All the rainbow bridge. Full BiFrost. Pan-galactically queer.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986235)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 26th, 2018 @ 4:34pm CDT

Va'al wrote:
snavej wrote:'Gayest issue ever'?! Careful, that could be taken as a positive or a negative. Maybe just say something like 'Relationship development continues'.

Nope, totally gay. All the rainbow bridge. Full BiFrost. Pan-galactically queer.

Yes, yes it is.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986240)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 26th, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT

Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron just can't forgive himself.

I thought that was an incredible touch.

Also, I found it fully that 2 guys present were part of the "Prime" vote and could not open their Matrices. Heck, poor Magnus just cannot catch a break

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1986296)
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2018 @ 9:35pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron just can't forgive himself.

I thought that was an incredible touch.

Also, I found it fully that 2 guys present were part of the "Prime" vote and could not open their Matrices. Heck, poor Magnus just cannot catch a break

I assumed that Magnus had trouble just so he could get blown up. Like in this one other work of Transformers media

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987246)
Posted by Va'al on October 2nd, 2018 @ 4:54pm CDT

Thanks to the source directly, artist Alex Milne over on Twitter, we have both the lineart and the main coloured cover (courtesy of regular visual collaborator Josh Perez) for the last issue of IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light.

That's right, issue #25 is just round the corner - barring any bizarre scheduling issues, which would surprise absolutely no one - and a lot of readers are getting ready to deal with the aftermath of 'no comics' for a little while. In the meantime, take a look below, and let us know what you think of this homage to Milne's first cover for the series TPB, back in More Than Meets the Eye!

So IDW was kind enough to allow me to share this cover with all of you This is my final cover for Lost Light. My approach was to bookend this image with the first MTMTE TPB cover I did. Colors by the Amazing @dyemooch . #transformers #mtmte #lostlight #idw

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987250)
Posted by Deadput on October 2nd, 2018 @ 5:02pm CDT

Ah, all of those characters who never did anything but stand in the background.

What purpose did characters like Hound served to the plot?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987252)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 2nd, 2018 @ 5:47pm CDT

That is an amazing cover!!!

It's also kinda sad how many characters on that cover did not live through the series

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987257)
Posted by Tommy T. on October 2nd, 2018 @ 6:12pm CDT

Who's that orange guy next to the T

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987259)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 2nd, 2018 @ 6:22pm CDT

Tommy T. wrote:Who's that orange guy next to the T

Rollout, in G1 an Action Master. Milne has drawn him several times for commissions surprisingly, and he has shown up several times, including in alt mode in MTMTE 33 (I think) for the very first time

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987261)
Posted by Randomhero on October 2nd, 2018 @ 6:31pm CDT

Deadput wrote:Ah, all of those characters who never did anything but stand in the background.

What purpose did characters like Hound served to the plot?

Yeah I did the same thing on tfw2005 about those guys and no scavengers. Milne actually chimed in and said he added them to fill space and he didn’t add them because they’d be so small in the picture was kind of offended and now I feel bad

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987267)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on October 2nd, 2018 @ 7:05pm CDT

Although personally I liked the concept of Autobot Megatron and thought it was well done in the comics, I look forward to seeing what the next comic iteration of him will be like.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987270)
Posted by Ironhidensh on October 2nd, 2018 @ 7:15pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That is an amazing cover!!!

It's also kinda sad how many characters on that cover did not live through the series

The feels..... i gots 'em

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987289)
Posted by WreckerJack on October 2nd, 2018 @ 10:29pm CDT

Just finished LL24 and I gotta say it was a hell of a good issue. Here is to hoping 25 lives up to the hype.

Can I start reading the Unicron comics now?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987302)
Posted by Va'al on October 3rd, 2018 @ 2:30am CDT

WreckerJack wrote:Just finished LL24 and I gotta say it was a hell of a good issue. Here is to hoping 25 lives up to the hype.

Can I start reading the Unicron comics now?

They're almost entirely unconnected so far, so ideally you'd catch up on Optimus Prime before heading into Unicron! Check the chronology that ScottyP is putting together: the-transformers-idwverse-a-chronology-t105238s100.php#p1982662

(obviously Lost Light has so far nothing to do with it, so keep that in mind)

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987320)
Posted by X3ROhour on October 3rd, 2018 @ 8:18am CDT

does anyone
other than me
think it would be awesome
if
in this final issue
someone
anyone
Tailgate or Swerve, maybe
:PRAY:

puts a blaster behind Megatron's auditory receptor and blows his brains out?

i mean
he still deserves to be punished
for the billions of deaths
and countless suffering
he was
and is
directly
and indirectly
STILL responsible for!

right?

soooo....
wats up widdat?

:-?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987324)
Posted by Big Grim on October 3rd, 2018 @ 8:34am CDT

Z3ROhour wrote:does anyone
other than me
think it would be awesome

Nope. The redemptive arc of Megatron has been entirely enjoyable.

That cover. Absolutely awesome!

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987327)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 3rd, 2018 @ 8:49am CDT

Z3ROhour wrote:does anyone
other than me
think it would be awesome
if
in this final issue
someone
anyone
Tailgate or Swerve, maybe

puts a blaster behind Megatron's auditory receptor and blows his brains out?

i mean
he still deserves to be punished
for the billions of deaths
and countless suffering
he was
and is
directly
and indirectly
STILL responsible for!

right?

soooo....
wats up widdat?

Punish death with death... >:oP

nothing would change, an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987333)
Posted by snavej on October 3rd, 2018 @ 11:15am CDT

Deadput wrote:Ah, all of those characters who never did anything but stand in the background.

What purpose did characters like Hound served to the plot?

Someone had to do the chores while popular characters did interesting things! It's all part of the family dynamic.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987825)
Posted by Va'al on October 5th, 2018 @ 10:44am CDT

Via the official page of the Previews World website, we have one of the many variants due with the last issue of IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light ongoing series - allegedly out at the end of October - by main artist on the series Jack Lawrence, and colours by someone clearly not important enough to include in the solicitations (regular Joana Lafuente is the guess).

Check out below the cast ensemble for one final curtain call, in 'How to Say Goodbye and Mean It, pt II', and join us in the discussion until the book's release!

(W) James Roberts (A/CA) Jack Lawrence
MORE THAN MET THE EYE. The quest is over, the dust has settled, and everything has changed-forever. But before the fond farewells, before the parting of ways, before the unkept promises to stay in touch, there's time-surely, there's time-for one last drink...

Extra-long final issue! Tying together and putting a bow on stories from the last 13 years!
The final fate of the whole Lost Light crew revealed!
From the Death of Optimus Prime to now: 85 issues of the Lost Light cast!
In Shops: Oct 31, 2018
Final Orders Due: Oct 08, 2018

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987829)
Posted by avarathriul on October 5th, 2018 @ 11:20am CDT

this cover is breaking what little i had left of a heart

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987874)
Posted by X3ROhour on October 5th, 2018 @ 6:08pm CDT

Big Grim wrote:
Z3ROhour wrote:does anyone
other than me
think it would be awesome

Nope. The redemptive arc of Megatron has been entirely enjoyable.

That cover. Absolutely awesome!

i truly
TRULY
enjoy born-again Megatron.

i do.

but nothing
NO-THING
can
or ever will
be able to remove,
cover
or
lighten
the tarnish
and Inermost Energon
& BLOOD
that this MONSTER
has splashed,
knelt in
and ground his heals upon
in his 4 million year
"misunderstanding"

he is simply
UNREDEEMABLE.
period.

i wish it were not so.

but the quest being concluded
its time to face the music
GUILTY AS CHARGED.

sorry.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987875)
Posted by X3ROhour on October 5th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CDT

Va'al wrote:

no Megatron

:-?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987876)
Posted by X3ROhour on October 5th, 2018 @ 6:16pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
Z3ROhour wrote:does anyone
other than me
think it would be awesome
if
in this final issue
someone
anyone
Tailgate or Swerve, maybe

puts a blaster behind Megatron's auditory receptor and blows his brains out?

i mean
he still deserves to be punished
for the billions of deaths
and countless suffering
he was
and is
directly
and indirectly
STILL responsible for!

right?

soooo....
wats up widdat?

Punish death with death... nothing would change, an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind

then face the darkness
with head held high,
strength of the Spark,
back unbent
and
conviction of morals
and
justice.

Some crimes are beyond flimsy philosophy.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987879)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 5th, 2018 @ 6:48pm CDT

How would his executioners be any different then him? There's supposed to be a difference between Autobot and cons (though IDW have shown that to be murkier) thus Autobot justice would have execution off the table. If you read the other IDW titles then it suggests that Prime may have charges of his own to answer for, look at Sins of the Wreckers for example where its revealed that Prowl bombed nonaligned areas to boost Autobot recruitment.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987882)
Posted by X3ROhour on October 5th, 2018 @ 6:56pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:How would his executioners be any different then him? There's supposed to be a difference between Autobot and cons (though IDW have shown that to be murkier) thus Autobot justice would have execution off the table. If you read the other IDW titles then it suggests that Prime may have charges of his own to answer for, look at Sins of the Wreckers for example where its revealed that Prowl bombed nonaligned areas to boost Autobot recruitment.

that should be dealt with as well b4 IDW concludes.

i bet Prowl sacrifices himself against Unicron
or somesuch

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987912)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on October 5th, 2018 @ 11:09pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
Z3ROhour wrote:does anyone
other than me
think it would be awesome
if
in this final issue
someone
anyone
Tailgate or Swerve, maybe

puts a blaster behind Megatron's auditory receptor and blows his brains out?

i mean
he still deserves to be punished
for the billions of deaths
and countless suffering
he was
and is
directly
and indirectly
STILL responsible for!

right?

soooo....
wats up widdat?

Punish death with death... nothing would change, an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind

I mean yeah, you’re right, that’s the Autobot way, but this is Megatron. I mean like he said, I’m also a fan of the redemption arc, but that doesn’t change how things are.

Would we have treated Hitler like his if he suddenly seemed to change his ways last minute, post-war? Some deserve to be put to death.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987918)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 6th, 2018 @ 2:17am CDT

Hitler I would have put on trial, and then locked him away for the rest of his life. Autobot Megatron is too good an idea not to pass up, it needs to be written about. If they didn't do it, then he would never have been captured and he would never have been developed as a character. There is other points as well, Hitler wasn't afraid of death, he was afraid of being captured and being forced to answer for his crimes. Megs did answer, and if I remember correctly, it was Prime that inspired him to look for the loophole (again a writer's hook to allow him to disappear from the main storyline involving the colonies and unicron). At first megs would have been content with being locked away.

There is also the risk of making a martyr, especially if killing is against your own beliefs, as then you become a hypocrite and who listens to them? In closing, Megatron didn't deserve death. That is not justice, and that is not how you defeat a political movement.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987944)
Posted by Flashwave on October 6th, 2018 @ 8:47am CDT

Alright, everyone else on that cover save Whirl is either an outright couple, ot one they have hinted around without exploring.

The heck is going on with Rodimus and Minimus? No. No non no no NO. There's nothing there and doesnt need to be anything there.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987947)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 6th, 2018 @ 9:14am CDT

Wouldn't nautica be with skids though?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987961)
Posted by Flashwave on October 6th, 2018 @ 12:46pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:Wouldn't nautica be with skids though?

Maybe, but go back to MTMTE 40 when Brainstorm is on trial. Nautica feels beyond bettayed (implied by her mangled Sonic Wrench and then outright said to Ratchet) and there is a moment where Brainstrom looks where she was in the Jury box with a looks of remorse and regret. Skids May have been a "first love" but that ended when Skids ended.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1987966)
Posted by Shockwave 8 on October 6th, 2018 @ 2:11pm CDT

First of all, I'd just like to say how much of a fantastic/soul-crushing touch it is that Swerve is holding Rung's glasses. It's a nice way to include him in spirit.

My only problems with this cover have already been mentioned:

Z3ROhour wrote:no Megatron

Flashwave wrote:The heck is going on with Rodimus and Minimus? No. No no no no NO. There's nothing there and doesn't need to be anything there.

Seriously, why did Lawrence have to draw them like that? Nothing about that makes sense... :???:

Anyway, this is still a great cover, though it doesn't hold a candle to Milne's, in my opinion.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988023)
Posted by Flashwave on October 6th, 2018 @ 10:37pm CDT

I just realized the boquet Ratchwt ia holding are the Energon flowers from Necroworld.

I dunno, I am not crazy on that Drift/Ratchet ship. I mean, I get it, I see what they are buikding off, its there in MTMTE 40 When Ratchet says to 10 something something "I don't think some of us realized how much", but I always took Ratchet and Drift's dynamic to be more of a friendship built on healthy debate than one of actual Shipping, and to me adding that in undermines their relationship by making it somethung else. Plus I am not a fan of evwryone being in love with everyone offoce romance thing. Afew is okay; everyone?!!! that gets excessive.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988037)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 7th, 2018 @ 4:30am CDT

Sometimes a cover is just a cover ;-)

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988146)
Posted by ScottyP on October 8th, 2018 @ 8:43am CDT

Flashwave wrote:I just realized the boquet Ratchwt ia holding are the Energon flowers from Necroworld.

I dunno, I am not crazy on that Drift/Ratchet ship. I mean, I get it, I see what they are buikding off, its there in MTMTE 40 When Ratchet says to 10 something something "I don't think some of us realized how much", but I always took Ratchet and Drift's dynamic to be more of a friendship built on healthy debate than one of actual Shipping, and to me adding that in undermines their relationship by making it somethung else. Plus I am not a fan of evwryone being in love with everyone offoce romance thing. Afew is okay; everyone?!!! that gets excessive.

Roche helped put it in perspective when talking about MTMTE Revolution. About Crankcase and Cons4Eva, and I'm paraphrasing, "they were going to just be friends meeting up but it ended up being a blind date because they're never just friends with James Roberts."

I think it has only been truly prevalent in about four cases: Rechrome, Cygate, Lugnode, and Dratchet. That's probably not as many as it could have been. I do think fans ship too many examples too quickly though.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988785)
Posted by william-james88 on October 11th, 2018 @ 10:05pm CDT

I have been rereading MTMTE now that we know where its all headed and to see the clues left along the way. And man, some of these issues are truly amazing. I was rereading the one with the focus on the scavengers when they face off against Fort Max and it ends with Adaptus' followers destroying a project and restarting from scratch. Did that pan out to anything? Did we ever know what those experiments were?

But man, I get all those feels again. Like at the end when we see Fort Max with all the roboids.I remember having been devastated at first since it reminded me of those chimeras in Full Metal Alchemist (I am still not over that) and how just happy I was with that happy ending.

Oh that reminds me a question, was Dominus a roboid?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988791)
Posted by Flashwave on October 11th, 2018 @ 10:53pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:I have been rereading MTMTE now that we know where its all headed and to see the clues left along the way. And man, some of these issues are truly amazing. I was rereading the one with the focus on the scavengers when they face off against Fort Max and it ends with Adaptus' followers destroying a project and restarting from scratch. Did that pan out to anything? Did we ever know what those experiments were?

The Infinites

william-james88 wrote:
Oh that reminds me a question, was Dominus a roboid?

Only by literal Definition. Dominus and the Roboids were both forcibly trapped in Beast Modes basically as torture, but he was not a part of the Roboids, which were intended to be sold as pets to be abused by species who had been "wronged" by Cybertronian conflict. Dominus was tortured and kept around by the DJD for their own amusement

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988807)
Posted by Sagitta on October 12th, 2018 @ 12:42am CDT

As far as Megatron is concerned...

...would think what we saw within the Functionist Universe is exactly what would have happened if Megatron hadn't began the war or if he just plain wasn't allowed to be "born". And if the Functionists had been permitted to carry out -all- their plans the entire story would have been messier & shorter.

Of course, no one would be able to honestly second-guess what would or would not hae happened either. It's much like asking if there were a way to kill "insert-name-of-any-tyrant-here" pre-birth or infancy would that be moral. The answer would be "no" since it's folly to try and predetermine what's unknowable. And and can't play judge, jury, & executioner when there's yet to be a committed.

Rewind thought he was doing the universe a service when he effectively killed Megatron in the "Elegant Chaos" arc. However all -that- did was allow a window to form to what could/would have been as a alternate reality as to -what- did happen. He learned with no war to stop them the Functionists merely expanded their ideology "outward".

Not saying actions don't have consequences. Just because Megatron finds his moral footing and helps save how many lives doesn't mean they replace those that were lost by his direct, or indirect, hand.

Still, considering the matter if the false-Primus had its way Megatron's aid should factor in somewhere in the final verdict.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1988808)
Posted by Sagitta on October 12th, 2018 @ 12:53am CDT

Flashwave wrote:I just realized the boquet Ratchwt ia holding are the Energon flowers from Necroworld.

I dunno, I am not crazy on that Drift/Ratchet ship. I mean, I get it, I see what they are buikding off, its there in MTMTE 40 When Ratchet says to 10 something something "I don't think some of us realized how much", but I always took Ratchet and Drift's dynamic to be more of a friendship built on healthy debate than one of actual Shipping, and to me adding that in undermines their relationship by making it somethung else. Plus I am not a fan of evwryone being in love with everyone offoce romance thing. Afew is okay; everyone?!!! that gets excessive.

Would be awful embarrassing if the end was written like a Shakespearian play. While Transformers comics in the past have certainly played out "everybody all dies" ad nauseam we really don't need the other end of the spectrum: "everybody gets married". :oops:

Especially in a series which began way back in "Infiltration", followed by the "Ongoing" series, neither of which indicated romance. There would be at least an explanation for it if there had been some introduction way back when the Cybertonian colonies were first referenced. But...nadda.

Roberts was good with keeping consistencies. On this topic...can't see it.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #24 (1989298)
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2018 @ 2:03pm CDT

Flashwave wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I have been rereading MTMTE now that we know where its all headed and to see the clues left along the way. And man, some of these issues are truly amazing. I was rereading the one with the focus on the scavengers when they face off against Fort Max and it ends with Adaptus' followers destroying a project and restarting from scratch. Did that pan out to anything? Did we ever know what those experiments were?
The Infinites

william-james88 wrote:
Oh that reminds me a question, was Dominus a roboid?

Only by literal Definition. Dominus and the Roboids were both forcibly trapped in Beast Modes basically as torture, but he was not a part of the Roboids, which were intended to be sold as pets to be abused by species who had been "wronged" by Cybertronian conflict. Dominus was tortured and kept around by the DJD for their own amusement

Yeah, thats what i meant. Not a literal Roboid but went through the same stuff. Reading it all again I see Roberts planted a bunch of stuff and I felt this was one of them. Letting us know that this procedure existed and it had been done to Dominus.

Speaking of the DJD, I was rereading the bit where we finally learn of Skid's backstory with Tarn. One thing picked up that I did not pick up the first time is that (and you will correct me if I am wrong) Chromedome does put an end to the mnemosurgery before Skids remembers that he contributed to the death of all those autobots. Its a bit confusing since every flashback was a memory Skids was having that we were seeing, but those last few pages are instead just a scene of the past and not a memory. So Skids still does not know what he did, right?

Also, what are the infinites again, I dont know why I am drawing such a blank over all this.

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