Revenge of the Fallen Nominated for 7 Golden Raspberry Awards
Monday, February 1st, 2010 7:44PM CST
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- Worst Film
Worst Director
Worst Remake, Rip-Off or Sequel
Worst Screenplay
Worst Supporting Actress (Julie White)
Worst Screen Couple (Le Bouf and EITHER Megan Fox OR Any Transformer)
Worst Actress (Megan Fox)
While this is all in good humour, an infinite amount of critics blasted Revenge of the Fallen during it's release. However we've seen first hand how much money the movie has brought with it, a tremendous $400+ million US strong, along with a successful toy line that has spanned over half a year and is still continuing.
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Posted by Badass Grimlock on February 1st, 2010 @ 8:54pm CST
I didn't think it was horrible. In fact, I kinda liked it. Scratch that. It was AWESOME. The fact that it was so lowly rated by critics (And it was listed as the number 1 Worst Movie of 2009 on Gizmodo, those bastards) saddened me. However, it didn't surprise me that Roger Ebert is an old fart who can't tell Bumblebee from Rampage (Look, Roger! They're differently colored!), let alone find a plot when it's right under his nose (Then again, your eyes are positioned an inch upward from your nose, so that adds some difficulty to the process).
Waaaaaaaaaah.
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on February 1st, 2010 @ 8:58pm CST
Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.
Ever? Really? Worse than Mortal Kombat Annihilation, or Batman and Robin? I can understand that you didn't like it, but calling it the worst movie ever is hyperbolic and absurd.
Posted by Burn on February 1st, 2010 @ 9:39pm CST
Evil_the_Nub wrote:Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.
Ever? Really? Worse than Mortal Kombat Annihilation, or Batman and Robin? I can understand that you didn't like it, but calling it the worst movie ever is hyperbolic and absurd.
If Chaoslock thinks it's the worst movie ever then that's his right to think that. Just because you think otherwise does not make it absurd.
Remember people, respect the opinions of others even if you disagree with them.
Posted by zenosaurus_x on February 1st, 2010 @ 10:24pm CST
This makes me lose faith in critics(oh wait, I didn't have any) or whoever comes up with these nominations.
Seriously? WORST MOVIE? This movie was better than about 80% of the movies that came out this year(err last year). Even with it's bad points it wasn't even that bad of a movie, sure it was nothing compared to part one but it is so far from the worst movie ever.
While I was disappointed in it I can name so many movies that are worse than this....it just doesn't deserve being called the worst movie, people just have something against giant robots and movies that aren't overdramatic...
Posted by stangatron on February 1st, 2010 @ 11:36pm CST
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on February 2nd, 2010 @ 12:46am CST
Posted by Liftgate on February 2nd, 2010 @ 12:52am CST
Again, toys and cartoons, what were you expecting?
And yeah, I guess I did go into this pretty deep.
Posted by Absolute Zero on February 2nd, 2010 @ 1:17am CST
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on February 2nd, 2010 @ 1:40am CST
Liftgate wrote:I'm not going to go into this nonsense too much, but if you're a person who thinks this movie is the worst thing you've ever seen, then apparently you HAVN'T SEEN VERY MANY MOVIES. The ONLY reason you are picking on it is because it's trendy to do so, that's it. The critics like to take aim at it simply because it had a big budget which made it a huge target for their nitpicking - the acting is bad, this is bad, that is bad - as if they all were expecting arthouse film making from something that is based on TOYS and a CARTOON! It's just hilarious! Yeah, let's compare toy robots to The Godfather, Scorsese, Paul Newman, Eastwood, Ridley Scott, etc., that really makes sense, real intelligent. I myself did not like parts of this movie, yes it could have been better, but I also have the common sense to realize that some parts of it were pretty darn cool and overall, pretty enjoyable. To say that this movie was the worst anything is beyond ridiculous and very narrow minded. Just my opinion you say? Really? Then why don't you go watch some of the hundreds of awful films that were made just last year, including most comedies and rom-coms that arn't even funny, and then in all seriousness try to tell yourself that ROTF was the "worst yadayada".
Again, toys and cartoons, what were you expecting?
And yeah, I guess I did go into this pretty deep.
My point exactly
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 2nd, 2010 @ 2:46am CST
Posted by Trikeboy on February 2nd, 2010 @ 5:59am CST
Btw I am not defending ROTF or the others nominated but there are other movies out there that deserve to get slated. Why only attack the high profile ones? Also, I liked Julia White in ROTF.
Posted by Chaoslock on February 2nd, 2010 @ 6:14am CST
Evil_the_Nub wrote:Chaoslock wrote:It made a ton of cash, but it is still the biggest pile of slag Hollywood have ever produced.
Ever? Really? Worse than Mortal Kombat Annihilation, or Batman and Robin? I can understand that you didn't like it, but calling it the worst movie ever is hyperbolic and absurd.
I actually liked MK2 as a kid, and still think it was good compared to what a fighting-program-based movie can do.
Batman and Robin: Wasn't worse than Batman Forever, and the comic based on it was actually readable.
But since RotF, every autobot is a genocidal maniac - just look at the new Seasprays bio.
Posted by Bowspearer on February 2nd, 2010 @ 6:59am CST
Yes the movie made a ton of money, but at the same time, an awful lot of (awful :p) people watch shows like big brother, so box office takings these days aren't the litmus test of a decent movie.
Were there other movies more deserving of nominations? Possibly, but only just. However the "under the radar" movies that got brought up before are "under the radar for a reason- they're not overly hyped and not $150 million extravaganzas. This was a high profile, high cost movie without a script and by its very nature, proof of just who was at fault for the failings of the first script (specifically, Bay). Heck even Hasbro and Bay have been making a bit of a deal out of how much the third movie is going to be "character focused" (which realistically means 1 or 2 toilet humour gags going for 30 seconds of character exposition).
Unlike those "under the radar movies" Transformers 2 was a symbol of the bar Hollywood sets these days and in terms of something even remotely close to something critically acclaimed, TF2 sets the bar so low that you could parachute out of a snake's butt to reach it. Hollywood needs to be sent a message that no matter how much gold you coat a turd in, paid for by its box office takings, it's still a turd and that CG, hype, huge budgets and excessive pyrotechnic displays are no substitute for quality characterisatons and stories. Here's hoping TF2 sweeps the board and the Hollywood gets the message (presuming they didn't from Avatar).
Posted by Trikeboy on February 2nd, 2010 @ 7:19am CST
Again, I am not defending ROTF.
Posted by SLUGSLINGER81 on February 2nd, 2010 @ 7:52am CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 2nd, 2010 @ 8:12am CST
Posted by Oilspill on February 2nd, 2010 @ 9:07am CST
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Finally! RotF has been nominated for awards it can actually win!
Too true! It may get a clean sweep this time!
Posted by BattleRoller23 on February 2nd, 2010 @ 10:51am CST
Wait, she's not even an actress, but an ugly b*tch who thinks she's one.
Posted by Darth Trader on February 2nd, 2010 @ 11:21am CST
I have always thought that the Bots should be far more recognizable than they were in either movie.
Posted by SlyTF1 on February 2nd, 2010 @ 12:24pm CST
Posted by Dagon on February 2nd, 2010 @ 3:47pm CST
Liftgate wrote:I'm not going to go into this nonsense too much, but if you're a person who thinks this movie is the worst thing you've ever seen, then apparently you HAVN'T SEEN VERY MANY MOVIES. The ONLY reason you are picking on it is because it's trendy to do so, that's it.
So, it's just not possible that someone would not like this movie? For all of the debate, good, bad, ugly or indifferent, that has transpired as a reult of this film, it all comes down to there being an impossibility that someone does not like it, for any reason, and the only accepted reson that one would not like it is because of some trend towards not liking it.
I don't like ROTF becuase I did not like the movie. I didn't know it was a trend not to like it, but since I like it for a) a reason besides it being trendy and b) have done the impossible by liking it for a reason besides its apparent only acceptable reason, my Internet Badass Rating just shot through the roof. If it's trendy to not like a movie because of a trend, that's one lame-ass trend.
Liftgate wrote: The critics like to take aim at it simply because it had a big budget which made it a huge target for their nitpicking - the acting is bad, this is bad, that is bad - as if they all were expecting arthouse film making from something that is based on TOYS and a CARTOON! It's just hilarious! Yeah, let's compare toy robots to The Godfather, Scorsese, Paul Newman, Eastwood, Ridley Scott, etc., that really makes sense, real intelligent. I myself did not like parts of this movie, yes it could have been better, but I also have the common sense to realize that some parts of it were pretty darn cool and overall, pretty enjoyable. To say that this movie was the worst anything is beyond ridiculous and very narrow minded. Just my opinion you say? Really? Then why don't you go watch some of the hundreds of awful films that were made just last year, including most comedies and rom-coms that arn't even funny, and then in all seriousness try to tell yourself that ROTF was the "worst yadayada".
Again, toys and cartoons, what were you expecting?
And yeah, I guess I did go into this pretty deep.
You did go deep, but that's cool, becuase it means you have something to say, which is why we all talk on the Internet.
We were more likely to find Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq than to find ROFT to be an arthouse/cinematic masterpiece. But come on, some people don't like it. It's not a personal attack at you, or at any other fan of the movie, or for the most part Bay/the crappy writers/whoever. Who expected more? Obviously the people who keep saying they disliked the movie and expected more. Transformers has 25 years of history and memories for people, and to think that everyone is complacently accepting of the big budget vision of Transformers is just as stupid as calling any movie the Worst movie of this or any time. Everything is relative. I thought ROTF was a bad movie. Was it the worst of 09, no, becase as bad as ROTF was to me, Jennifer's Body was way worse. Why aren't we crying bitter tears over my saying that, besides that little fact that this is a Transformers site and not a Jennifer's Body site?
Posted by Honorbound on February 2nd, 2010 @ 5:35pm CST
Posted by SlyTF1 on February 2nd, 2010 @ 6:49pm CST
Honorbound wrote:As far as I'm concerned, the only thing protecting this movie from deserving the Razzies is Optimus Prime. When he's on screen, it's all good. The problem comes when they kill him half-way through and revive him for the climax.
And thats exactly why I loved ROTF. Every time Optimus was on screen in ROTF I got chills, and when he died, do you know what happens to me when I get chills from seeing someone and they die? It makes me sad. And I love sad movies...sometimes, it depends. When Optimus was revived at the end I was ready to scream "zuul mutha f*kka!". (thats usually a good thing)
Posted by JesWal on February 2nd, 2010 @ 11:11pm CST
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.....
Posted by Dagon on February 3rd, 2010 @ 8:18pm CST
JesWal wrote:ROTF was a truly horrible movie in my opinion. However, as Dagon previously stated, there have been plenty of worse movies. Has anyone here ever seen Freddy Got Fingered?
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.....
Since you mentioned me....
Never saw Freddy Got Fingered, but I am a devout follower of 50s/60s/70s B cinema. I love movies with disjointed storylines/plots, bad effects, and sub awful acting. Plastic spider on a visible string supposed to be terrorizing the city? I'm in the front row. But I find those entertaining. As terrible a human as it makes me, I just didn't think TF2 was entertaining. Now, I'm not needling the arguement, and in truth it's never been my intention to needle any pro/anti ROTF arguement, but I got a right to not have liked it, just as much as anyone has a right to have liked it. That's all I'm trying to say, honestly. Disagreement is the heart of anything worth talking about, and so I don't get why it seems like we have to think ROTF was the greatest thing ever just because some people liked it. If you liked it, good. Life is not long enough to go without something you like. But if we all have to like it, that's totalitarian, and that's BS.
Look at it like this. Hershal Gordon Lewis made a movie called Blood Feast. It is credited with being the dawn of the gore film as a genre. In it, there is an actor who acts terribly, and reads his lines written on the palm of his hand, and it is very obvious that he is reading lines written on the palm of his hand. But the lines he's reading, they are better lines than the scripted lines of ROTF, in my opinion. That's not wrong, it's my opinion. This conversation exists for and because of the exchange of opinions.
Posted by Liftgate on February 3rd, 2010 @ 10:49pm CST
And yeah, I still say the people that bash this as the worst thing ever are just repeating others. I came to this conclusion from both my own experience of listing to what people said and from sites like rotten tomatoes, where every other person has to use a term like "stupidest" and "worst". Come on now, that's not a coincidence and a little difficult to believe so may people just happen to share the exact same opinion and words. "Everyone else says they didn't like it, so I better not say I did or I'll look stupid" There's an awful lot of folks out there who think exactly along those lines.
I did not like parts of this film, but something is wrong if you didn't enjoy the scenes were prime was kicking butt, something is very wrong. Like it or hate it, it is still not the worst and we as TF fans owe this movie alot for helping boost the franchise and keep it alive and well. The success of these movies helps TF keep moving forward and as common with a successful series of movies, eventually there is a reboot, which just might give us something better, closer to what many believe TF should be. We will owe it to these terrible, horrible, worst ever Michael Bay films, which ruined Transformers forever and raped our childhoods, whether you like it or not. In the meantime I'm going to try to enjoy the better parts of the movies we have now. To the rest of you who despise it, there is always the latest Nicolas Cage flick, since you arn't doing much to help Transformers stay alive anyway.
Posted by Dozertron on February 4th, 2010 @ 3:49pm CST
Posted by Dagon on February 4th, 2010 @ 5:50pm CST
Liftgate wrote:It dosn't matter if you liked this movie or not, that's irrelevant. I'm only saying that calling ROTF the "Worst Bla,bla,bla" is ridiculous since there are movies released on a weekly basis that are far worse, which contain nothing at all to enjoy and nothing even remotely redeeming. Nicolas Cage made a movie last year, folks! Hello? How can you argue with Nicolas Cage?!
And yeah, I still say the people that bash this as the worst thing ever are just repeating others. I came to this conclusion from both my own experience of listing to what people said and from sites like rotten tomatoes, where every other person has to use a term like "stupidest" and "worst". Come on now, that's not a coincidence and a little difficult to believe so may people just happen to share the exact same opinion and words. "Everyone else says they didn't like it, so I better not say I did or I'll look stupid" There's an awful lot of folks out there who think exactly along those lines.
I did not like parts of this film, but something is wrong if you didn't enjoy the scenes were prime was kicking butt, something is very wrong. Like it or hate it, it is still not the worst and we as TF fans owe this movie alot for helping boost the franchise and keep it alive and well. The success of these movies helps TF keep moving forward and as common with a successful series of movies, eventually there is a reboot, which just might give us something better, closer to what many believe TF should be. We will owe it to these terrible, horrible, worst ever Michael Bay films, which ruined Transformers forever and raped our childhoods, whether you like it or not. In the meantime I'm going to try to enjoy the better parts of the movies we have now. To the rest of you who despise it, there is always the latest Nicolas Cage flick, since you arn't doing much to help Transformers stay alive anyway.
Actually, in all fairness, liking the movie or not liking the movie reaches to the very heart of the matter. People who liked the movie aren't the ones claiming it to be the worst movie ever made. Some of the people who didn't like it are calling it that. So, one's like or dislike seems to be the critical component of such a judgement.
Bay didn't ruin the franchise, he didn't rape my childhood. The childhood thing, I don't know where that got started. That's impossible, outside of some perverse sci-fi story. Nobody's going back in time to violate my childhood, nor does/did Bay's films ruin my memories of the franchise. It's like everything else Transformer-related. Sometimes, you just don't like something. I don't owe it to Bay for rejuvenating the franchise. IT seemed to be doing just fine to me. Every two years or so we'd get a new cartoon, before the Bayverse we had multiple toylines going simultaneously (Universe, Alternators, and Energon/Cybertron/Armada, the Beast Wars 25th reissues, the TRU reissues...then, we can add in the toys that were being made in Japan, like the eHobbys and the TCC series). And aside from that, we had Botcons or OTFCCs yearly. Sure, Bay's films have increased the franchise, but it was hardly on the teetering edge of vanishment prior to his arrival.
What I find interesting is that if you didn't like the movie, you have a problem, whereas liking the movie means you are problem-free. We've all got problems in our lives, but I really doubt that disliking a movie is something that would even rate. I wasn't entertained by the movie. Ain't a personal attack on anybody, it's just my opinion. How come I can't have mine, but movie likers can have theirs?
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on February 4th, 2010 @ 11:12pm CST
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on February 5th, 2010 @ 7:56am CST
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I don't think anybody is saying you have to like the movie. It's the statements like "worst movie of all time" "raped my childhood" and "ruined the franchise" that people use because they're trying to be right in an issue of opinion. There are plenty of movies I hate, but I don't over exaggerate how bad they are like it's wrong to like them.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new here. Otherwise you'd realize that people have been saying roughly all of that shit since G2. While RotF might not be the single worst movie of all time it was the worst movie of 2009. I think the reason that most people are going out of their way to defend it boils down to one of a few things.
1) They're underage and don't know better. That's not a knock. Anyone in their late 20s or older will tell you that the things they liked as a child or a teenager don't always age well. Case in point, I can't watch Beavis and Butthead unless I'm drunk or stoned but when I was a teenager it was "OMG Brilliant!"
2) This is a Transformers forum and most of the people are Transformers fanboys/fangirls and not fans. Meaning they get all kinds of defensive about the thing they like for no real reason. A normal person can admit flaws in what they like but they don't care because they're secure enough to like it regardless. Fanboys will go out of their way to rationalize why it's the best thing ever. When it's clearly not. The first movie was a great movie. It was decently written for an action movie, it had cool shit to look at and it wasn't bad. RotF was boring, dragged in places, was poorly written, had too many characters (there's a reason why it branches off and most of the characters disappear), and downright embarrassing in certain scenes.
Which brings me to my counter point to point #2. I was expecting RotF to at least be as good as the first movie. It wasn't. And even the average person who went into it that knows nothing about Transformers other then the first movie were expecting the same thing. I watched both movies with my dad since he liked the first movie I figured it would be a nice bonding experience. He fell asleep during Revenge of the Fallen. He knows jackshit about Transformers other then what I tell him and given that he's in his 50s a lot of the time he's just being polite. When he asked if I had it on dvd I said I bought it to watch with him, but that was the only real reason I bought it. I told him that I had already seen it and it wasn't that great but I knew he wasn't a sheep and he'd form his own opinion. His loud snoring told me that he did. And I pretty much read a magazine while the movie finished.
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on February 6th, 2010 @ 1:19am CST
Posted by Lastjustice on February 12th, 2010 @ 1:59am CST
Michael bay is the NickelBack of directors, something that's just trendy and cool to hate regardless of actual merits. You didn't like it fine, but the sheer level of the hyperboles is silly.
Posted by Li Lioeliatus on February 12th, 2010 @ 6:59am CST
Critics are bull******* who are in the pocket of whoever is paying most and promotes most.
ROTF was unjustly attacked. It has bad things but most of it is great.
The Oscars etc are all about who paid most and usually some soppy, worthy, miseryfest or some overpromoted hock like Avatar wins.
Posted by Koray on March 7th, 2010 @ 6:39am CST
hope micahel bay could figure it out why tf2 got those awards and how tf3 wont get those awards.
Posted by Burn on March 7th, 2010 @ 2:12pm CST
Worst Picture of 2009:
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen
Worst Actress of 2009:
Sandra Bullock
All About Steve
Worst Actor(s) of 2009:
All Three Jonas Brothers
JONAS BROTHERS: THE 3-D CONCERT EXPERIENCE
Worst Screen Couple:
Sandra Bullock & Bradley Cooper
ALL ABOUT STEVE
Worst Supporting Actress:
Sienna Miller
G.I. JOE: THE RISE OF COBRA
Worst Supporting Actor:
Billy Ray Cyrus
HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE
Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
(Combined Category for 2009):
Land of The Lost
(UNIVERSAL PICTURES)
Worst Director:
Michael Bay
TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN (AKA TRANNIES, TOO)
Worst Screenplay:
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen
WRITTEN BY EHREN KRUGER & ROBERTO ORCI & ALEX KURTZMAN,
BASED ON HASBRO’S TRANSFORMERS ACTION FIGURES
Special 30th RAZZIE®-versary Awardz
Worst Picture of the Decade:
Battlefield Earth
NOMINATED FOR 10 RAZZIES® / “WINNER” OF 8
(INCLUDING WORST DRAMA OF OUR FIRST 25 YRS)
Worst Actor of the Decade:
Eddie Murphy
NOMINATED FOR 12 “ACHIEVEMENTS” / “WINNER” OF 3 RAZZIES®
ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH, I SPY, IMAGINE THAT, MEET DAVE, NORBIT, SHOWTIME
Worst Actress of the Decade:
Paris Hilton
NOMINATED FOR 5 “ACHIEVEMENTS,” “WINNER” OF 4 RAZZIES®
THE HOTTIE & THE NOTTIE, HOUSE OF WHACKS, REPO: THE GENETIC OPERA
Honestly, if you can't see the sillyness of the Razzies and you get all upset over TF2 taking three awards, then you need to learn to laugh.
And credit to Sandra Bullock for being on hand to accept her award AND joked about it.
Posted by Roadbuster on March 7th, 2010 @ 3:25pm CST
What does give me a problem is the fanboys who use this to stroke their petty egos, speaking as if they could do better. Aren't we supposed to be better than the Star Wars fans?
Posted by Delicon on March 7th, 2010 @ 4:04pm CST
"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was picked as last year's worst picture and won two other Razzies, worst director for Michael Bay and worst screenplay for Ehren Kruger, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman.
Bay and his team probably will not lose any asleep over it. Though reviled by critics, "Transformers" took in $402.1 million domestically, No. 2 on the 2009 box-office chart behind "Avatar."
In case you were wondering, here's the full list of winners.
Worst Picture of 2009:
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen
Worst Actress of 2009:
Sandra Bullock
All About Steve
Worst Actor(s) of 2009:
All Three Jonas Brothers
JONAS BROTHERS: THE 3-D CONCERT EXPERIENCE
Worst Screen Couple:
Sandra Bullock & Bradley Cooper
ALL ABOUT STEVE
Worst Supporting Actress:
Sienna Miller
G.I. JOE: THE RISE OF COBRA
Worst Supporting Actor:
Billy Ray Cyrus
HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE
Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
(Combined Category for 2009):
Land of The Lost
(UNIVERSAL PICTURES)
Worst Director:
Michael Bay
TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN
Worst Screenplay:
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen
WRITTEN BY EHREN KRUGER & ROBERTO ORCI & ALEX KURTZMAN,
BASED ON HASBRO’S TRANSFORMERS ACTION FIGURES
Special 30th RAZZIE®-versary Awardz
Worst Picture of the Decade:
Battlefield Earth
NOMINATED FOR 10 RAZZIES® / “WINNER” OF 8
(INCLUDING WORST DRAMA OF OUR FIRST 25 YRS)
Worst Actor of the Decade:
Eddie Murphy
NOMINATED FOR 12 “ACHIEVEMENTS” / “WINNER” OF 3 RAZZIES®
ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH, I SPY, IMAGINE THAT, MEET DAVE, NORBIT, SHOWTIME
Worst Actress of the Decade:
Paris Hilton
NOMINATED FOR 5 “ACHIEVEMENTS,” “WINNER” OF 4 RAZZIES®
THE HOTTIE & THE NOTTIE, HOUSE OF WHACKS, REPO: THE GENETIC OPERA
Seibertron.com - The Ultimate Transformers Resource!
Posted by Redimus on March 7th, 2010 @ 4:43pm CST
Michael Bay will have to work even harder on TF3 if he's gonna achieve his lifetime ambition of producing a film worse than Battlefield Earth!
Koray wrote:hope micahel bay could figure it out why tf2 got those awards and how tf3 wont get those awards.
I wouldn't hold your breath. He's done a lot of films, and they've pretty much all stunk. TF3 will be every bit as awful as the first 2.
Posted by HighPrime on March 7th, 2010 @ 5:08pm CST
Worst movie ever belongs to 'Ultra Violet' in my book.
Posted by Wheeljack35 on March 7th, 2010 @ 5:45pm CST
Posted by Julie85 on March 7th, 2010 @ 6:19pm CST
I don't take these awards seriously anymore. It's all just opinion.
Posted by Delicon on March 7th, 2010 @ 6:25pm CST
Wheeljack35 wrote:I know ROTF wasn't great but I thought GI Joe was worse
I agree, especially when it comes to just basically messing wth key elements of a franchise for no reason.
Posted by prfctcellrulz on March 7th, 2010 @ 7:44pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on March 7th, 2010 @ 7:48pm CST
Posted by T-Macksimus on March 7th, 2010 @ 8:50pm CST
The Movie critics are full of crap and the rest of you heaping your tripe on the fandom like your points of view are so much better than the rest of us...well you people are as full of it as the Critics. We get it, YOU didn't like the movie, now S.T.F.U. and get over it!
Posted by Badass Grimlock on March 7th, 2010 @ 9:13pm CST
However, I take back what I said about Roger Ebert after all he's been through, fighting cancer, losing jaws. The poor guy can't even speak! That being said, I liked the movie, however, there were parts in it that simply were not appropriate for this genre. Doggy love. Devy balls (This hopefully will become a joke among the fandom). Fart jokes. Dickbot. DID. NOT. WORK. Like I said, I think that Ebert had a difficult time finding a plot. I think this is because of flailing robot pieces, explosions (100+) and the profanity and sexuality. Ebert is used to old movies. I disagree, but that's okay. To every man his own.
Posted by Bowspearer on March 7th, 2010 @ 10:10pm CST
Julie85 wrote:To me this is sad, because I really love ROTF. I think it was an awesome movie and I don't understand why everyone hates it so much. The only thing I hated about the movie was all the sex talk; it is totally unnecessary and inappropriate for a movie intended to sell toys to kids.
I don't take these awards seriously anymore. It's all just opinion.
Opinion by people in the industry which does tend to make it somewhat more informed than a bunch of people who aren't.
what people are losing sight of here is that in terms of an actual deep, profound and truly epic movie, TF2 really does fail.
The problem with Michael Bay, as exemplified by the TFLAM franchise is that if he has a choice between toilet humour and explosions, or character/plot development and exposition, he'll practially always go for the former. That's not any kind of good movie, just a fun juvenile light and sound show.
Someone here tried to compare the work of Nickelback to Micheal Bay, but the difference is that for all the hatred, Nickelback's stuff does stand the test of time in at least some cases. Bay's stuff simply isn't that good.
The first movie fell short of what the franchise actually deserved in terms of quality storytelling, and the second one was even worse. Calling it the worst movie of 2009 isn't a bad call at all, in fact objectively it's pretty spot on.
Sure it took alot of money in the box office, but so what, The Jerry Springer Show gets plenty of ratings to the point where it's not going off the air any time soon either- that doesn't make it a quality TV show, just proves that there are alot of that type of demographic around.
IMHO, that was the point of this Rassie. The film was that bad and such a high money earner that someone needed to point out that takings do not make a quality film.
If it earned peanuts, in line with the quality of the film, then it probably would have gone under the radar- but with its budget, takings and what was actually delivered, what do people honestly expect here?
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on March 7th, 2010 @ 10:12pm CST
Toruk Makto wrote:I have to say I disagree with most critics on ROTF.
However, I take back what I said about Roger Ebert after all he's been through, fighting cancer, losing jaws. The poor guy can't even speak! That being said, I liked the movie, however, there were parts in it that simply were not appropriate for this genre. Doggy love. Devy balls (This hopefully will become a joke among the fandom). Fart jokes. Dickbot. DID. NOT. WORK. Like I said, I think that Ebert had a difficult time finding a plot. I think this is because of flailing robot pieces, explosions (100+) and the profanity and sexuality. Ebert is used to old movies. I disagree, but that's okay. To every man his own.
He's entitled to his opinion same as everyone else. But he crossed the line when he said anyone who like it was unevolved. Which is an attitude I see a lot of people have.
Posted by GEEWUN on March 8th, 2010 @ 7:30am CST
Posted by Windsweeper on March 8th, 2010 @ 2:43pm CST
Having seen the trailer for ROTF and seeing how great TF1 was, I had deliriously high hopes for TF2. That may have been a problem. After the first half hour, I was ready to leave. The extremely annoying Leo, the awful head designs of the Twins and the college/parents scenes, need I say more. I came out of the film fuming. My friends in work the next morning couldn't believe how much I hated it as they all know I'm a huge TF fan. I didn't even look at a TF website for the next week. I was ready to leave the franchise after quarter of a century.
Then, I read IDW's Defiance and Alliance and really enjoyed them, especially Defiance (loved Prowl). I started remembering the good parts of ROTF - Prime, Soundwave, Megatron, Arcee, Sideswipe, the various battle scenes. Then an old friend who I'd not seen in a couple years arranged to meet me. We said we'd go to the cinema and when I asked what she wanted to see, she said ROTF. I was sceptical but could not refuse her (believe me!). In we went and I was surprised to find I actually enjoyed it second time around because my expectations were lowered. I realised it was a lot better than I remembered. They actually made Simmons likeable. Plus Movie Op, Bumblebee and Arcee are likeable. I hated their G1 incarnations and by many standards, I could easily be seen as a Geewunner.
I ended up seeing it 5 times in the cinema. While I would never call it a great film, it's certainly not as bad as the media says.
The 3 problems with it as far as I can see are:
1. It didn't live up to the expectations set by the first film.
2. The humour doesn't work. Surprising, because I like the humour in a lot of Bay movies like Armaggedon, Bad Boys, the Rock and TF1(bring back Anthony Anderson for TF3 and drop Leo). Loved the parents in TF1 but they just didn't work in the context they were presented in in ROTF.
3. The Jetfire/Seeker backstory seems to be missing something.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Hopefully TF3 will restore the faith of the disenfranchised. I actually liked the leaked treatment from a few months back.