Promotional Art for Transformers Generations Titan Master Sovereign

william-james88 wrote:If you go on the Transformers section of the website Toy Adventures, you will see a banner for the Transformers Generations line. While the banner does not reflect the Siege line per se, it does feature a character we have not seen yet in the Generations line, which looks like a mix of Huffer and Pipes. We will let you handle the speculation from here on out, but keep in mind that this may be a design that was planned for a previous Generations subline and never saw the light of day. It is odd though that it features so prominently on the site, whenever Transformers are mentioned, leading to several different styles of the banner/art. All of them can be seen below.

Personally it reminds me of a powermaster, but I can't think of a powermaster in those colors, and either way proper powermasters haven't been done since the originals so who knows.

Sabrblade wrote:Detail-wise, this dude bears a resemblance to the Dreamwave MTMTE profile artwork of the G1 Powermaster Slapdash's little partner Lube, but the colors don't match at all.



The colors are a bit evocative of those of Lube's Japanese-only Masterforce Warrior redeco Bullet, but the color layout is different.



It's possible that it's a Titan Master design that ultimately went unused.


Also, the image was allegedly uploaded a year ago.

Cyberpath wrote:This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

william-james88 wrote:As for the Star Convoy discussion, we have had quite a bit of him. He is the only toy from that line that was ever rereleased and you can own an original for pretty cheap because of that. Plus, not only was that white CW Prime a Star Convoy homage, but so was TR Prime, sporting the same details on his chest and having his legs made up of his trailer. Plus, the whole trailer turning into legs, which Star Convoy started, was the basis for every Prime toy in the RID line.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Caelus wrote:So... stupid question... If the Battlemasters are filling the $5-6 titanmaster slot, are the Micromaster pairs filling the $10-12 scout class slot? As much as I love Micromasters and minicons, that feels like a rip off.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Caelus wrote:So... stupid question... If the Battlemasters are filling the $5-6 titanmaster slot, are the Micromaster pairs filling the $10-12 scout class slot? As much as I love Micromasters and minicons, that feels like a rip off.

Yes unfortunately. I loved the legends figures we have been getting, and really don't care for the micromasters that much (too simple for my tastes). I'll cherry pick a few to buy, but will pass on most of them.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Emerje wrote:At first I honestly thought that art was of a screwy version of Krunk.

Caelus wrote:So... stupid question... If the Battlemasters are filling the $5-6 titanmaster slot, are the Micromaster pairs filling the $10-12 scout class slot? As much as I love Micromasters and minicons, that feels like a rip off.

william-james88 wrote:I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

I would not pay $5 for any of the Battle Masters in their own. With the included Fire Blasts, though, I'm planning to get all of them. The unique play and display options of this play pattern provide extra value, especially because the Fire Blast parts are exclusive to the Battle Masters products.

I'm not sure if it'll be successful, but I'm all in.

Cyberpath wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Not close enough. And his other toy is the original 80s one.

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

I would not pay $5 for any of the Battle Masters in their own. With the included Fire Blasts, though, I'm planning to get all of them. The unique play and display options of this play pattern provide extra value, especially because the Fire Blast parts are exclusive to the Battle Masters products.

I'm not sure if it'll be successful, but I'm all in.

Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

william-james88 wrote:Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

I thought that would vary by product. Firebolt should have two, though Lionizer and Blowpipe would have only one each.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ipe/42030/

Based on stock photos, I'm also expecting Aimless to come with two Fire Blasts.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Not close enough. And his other toy is the original 80s one.

It's not that far off either, though. The T30 figure matches up almost perfectly in alt mode. Keep in mind that the figure was originally designed as Swerve for T30, and in the original G1 toyline, Swerve was a retool of Gears. Gears being a redeco and headswap of Swerve does make some sense, but the mold could have used more retooling, at least for the torso, to really distinguish the two and get Gears a little more on-model. Some red vertical stripes on the helmet framing his face would have helped too, honestly.

Cyberpath wrote:I'm looking at the final result and other than the colours there's nothing about the robot that really says "Gears" to me. Very off model.

HasTak did a great job with the more recent Legends-class Brawn, Bumblebee, Windcharger, Beachcomber, and Seaspray -- I think Huffer & Gears could be just a matter of time.

• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Fan Vote Autobot aka Mirage
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Fan Vote Decepticon aka Impactor
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Reflector / Refraktor
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Brunt
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Red Alert

Amelie wrote:The completionist in me is saying "buy all the things", but my sensible, early G1 centric self is saying

"only get the MTMTE toys"....

This line already looks like a winner to me, though. I wasn't into the Titan Masters stuff and POTP felt too late to jump in (except the fembots, I nabbed those).

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner award exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

Skritz wrote:If he's a Deluxe, then he most likely is a Prowl retool which use the Evergreen Barricade.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner award exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

It's supposed to be before he chose his finalized side in the war, with Mirage being the one who convinces him to join.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner award exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

It's supposed to be before he chose his finalized side in the war, with Mirage being the one who convinces him to join.

That’s suprisingly satisfying

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner award exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

It's supposed to be before he chose his finalized side in the war, with Mirage being the one who convinces him to join.

That’s suprisingly satisfying

I just hope they go the same route they did with CW Megatron and include optional stickers so you can choose which side to give him, or maybe something similar to RotF Wheelie with the rotating symbol to convey the message if that's their story for it

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:If he's a Deluxe, then he most likely is a Prowl retool which use the Evergreen Barricade.

Yeah, Evergreen Barricade seems most likely.

mordhelm wrote:After looking at the scale guide for the Sunbow cartoon, it makes total sense that Reflector is deluxe. Also means Omega Supreme might be slightly taller than Devastator.

o.supreme wrote:

mordhelm wrote:After looking at the scale guide for the Sunbow cartoon, it makes total sense that Reflector is deluxe. Also means Omega Supreme might be slightly taller than Devastator.

Omega should be, but with Hasbro you never know. To compare to 18 inch (almost 46 cm) CW/UW Devastator, an Ideal Titan Omega Supreme would be about 20 inches (almost 51 cm). But that is at the head, so if he looks like the classic, the tracks protruding from his back would be quite extensive one would think...I guess we'll see in the coming months.