Preorders for SS 86 Swoop and other Recent Reveals

william-james88 wrote:Swoop became almost instantly sold out from Amazon and Hasbro Pulse, the two places where many fans pay extra for free shipping. But he is still available for preorder at collector oriented sites like Big Bad Toy Store...

The minions ordered a pair through Pulse before they sold out. Hopefully they won't pull the rug out from under us, like they did with Snarl, and cancel one or both because they 'didn't make enough'.

I admit, I haven't seen Swoop this much in demand for a long time. He was always the goofiest looking, least popular Dinobot. Even in the cartoon they treated him like dirt, constantly having him get shot down and never beating any opponents. Nice to see him getting some appreciation for a change...

Well, totally missed the Swoop pre-order on Amazon. Hope he comes back in stock at some point.

For all the complaints I saw against him when he was revealed, he sold out amazingly fast. Don't think any other Dinobot has sold out this quickly.

DeathReviews wrote:I admit, I haven't seen Swoop this much in demand for a long time. He was always the goofiest looking, least popular Dinobot. Even in the cartoon they treated him like dirt, constantly having him get shot down and never beating any opponents.

In the G1 comics he was pretty badass, 2nd only to Grimlock. That's why I hope eventually we get a red version. We got a comics deco Grimlock, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I missed out on the preorders on Amazon and Pulse, but I never cared for blue Swoop, so I'll pick him up if I see him in a store. Only reason I need him is to complete the team anyway.

DeathReviews wrote:I admit, I haven't seen Swoop this much in demand for a long time. He was always the goofiest looking, least popular Dinobot. Even in the cartoon they treated him like dirt, constantly having him get shot down and never beating any opponents. Nice to see him getting some appreciation for a change...

He's the only Dinobot other than Grimlock to get his own feature episode, two in fact since it was a two parter, "Desertion of the Dinobots". Between that and his ability to fly I've always considered him one of the most popular Dinobots.

Emerje

Swoop! Finally! Anddddddd pre-ordered!

Emerje wrote:He's the only Dinobot other than Grimlock to get his own feature episode, two in fact since it was a two parter, "Desertion of the Dinobots". Between that and his ability to fly I've always considered him one of the most popular Dinobots.

Emerje

That's a good point, Desertion of the Dinobots was always one of the episodes I'd rent at Blockbusters as a kid and he gets a lot of airtime there.

His design also always made him stand out from the rest of the Dinobots. The rest share a very similar design scheme, big chunky bots with red grey and gold color schemes. Swoop was always the only one that broke away from that, being fairly sleek in robot mode(well, what passes as sleek for G1 lol) and the only one with blue on him.

Add in that he's the last one needed to complete the team, and I don't think it's too surprising that he's selling like hotcakes.

Emerje wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I admit, I haven't seen Swoop this much in demand for a long time. He was always the goofiest looking, least popular Dinobot. Even in the cartoon they treated him like dirt, constantly having him get shot down and never beating any opponents. Nice to see him getting some appreciation for a change...

He's the only Dinobot other than Grimlock to get his own feature episode, two in fact since it was a two parter, "Desertion of the Dinobots". Between that and his ability to fly I've always considered him one of the most popular Dinobots.

Emerje

I don’t remember every episode perfectly by any means. But here’s how I remember the Dinobots—
Obviously they’re all pretty much dimwits.
But Grimlock has an inflated ego.
Sludge is dumb as a stump.
Slag is basically a meathead.
Snarl is aggressive; little talk and all action.
And Swoop is kind of goofy but the least aggressive.

I personally thought Sludge was probably the least popular.

This isn’t to suggest I don’t like these characters; in fact they’re my favorite Autobots. Having all 5 will be a major highlight for me and my collection. It’s almost unbelievable that this is actually, finally happening.

But I’m not at all surprised that Swoop has sold out on a couple sites.
I think he will sell as well as Slag, Sludge and Snarl.

Found Concept Sunstreaker at Target tonight and for only $20, glad I didn't pre-order him!

He's a decent figure, I think he looks better in hand than in pictures, especially the mistransformed leaked images. Articulation is a little basic with standard knees and elbows, ok shoulders and hips, good ankles, waist swivel, but no wrists. Transformation isn't too bad once you figure out where all the moving parts go, there's enough contact points for everything to snap into place without much issue. Only iffy part is the side windows, but if you can avoid touching them when popping the top down will keep them in place. Wheels are a little stiff to spin since they're sandwiched between two pieces, but hey sure look good. Overall he's a neat figure, maybe the best of the Bee movie Deluxe cast.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Overall he's a neat figure, maybe the best of the Bee movie Deluxe cast.

Emerje

That's high praise, since I think the Ironhide/Ratchet mold is really good

We thank EvasionModeBumblebee for letting us know that JTPrime17 has jotted down the wave breakdown of the 2025 Studio Series line.
We knew these were coming, but now we see around when they should be coming out and what the wavemates are. For instance, we see that Hatchet will be in wave 1, and we see when we are getting rereleases of 86 Grimlock, TF7 Prime, 86 Perceptor and 86 Jazz.

Wave 1: January 2025
Deluxe TF3 Hatchet
Deluxe TF7 Double Punch
Deluxe MV6 Bumblebee
Voyager TF7 Optimus Prime Pr
Voyager WFC Skywarp
Leader 86 Galvatron
Leader TF7 Apelinq

Wave 2: April 2025
Deluxe TF4 Widow Maker
Deluxe TF3 Que
Deluxe 86 Perceptor PR
Voyager WFC Ironhide
Voyager TFone Sentinel Prime
Leader TF4 Optimus Prime Leader TF3 Shockwave PR

Wave 3: July 2024
Deluxe TFone Starscream
Deluxe 86 Bonecrusher
Deluxe 86 Jazz PR
Voyager WFC Thundercracker
Voyager 86 Scrapper
Leader 86 Megatron

Wave 4: October 2025
Deluxe WFC Autobot Soldier
Deluxe 86 Scavenger
Voyager 86 Mixmaster
Leader 86 Grimlock PR

A level Ast 2: July 2025
Deluxe Dev Optimus
Deluxe TFone B-127

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Overall he's a neat figure, maybe the best of the Bee movie Deluxe cast.

Emerje

That's high praise, since I think the Ironhide/Ratchet mold is really good

My Sunstreaker should arrive today, but he has to put in some effort to top the Brawn figure from that movie.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Overall he's a neat figure, maybe the best of the Bee movie Deluxe cast.

Emerje

That's high praise, since I think the Ironhide/Ratchet mold is really good

My Sunstreaker should arrive today, but he has to put in some effort to top the Brawn figure from that movie.

I feel like we all have different favorites from that wave, I really liked Wheeljack.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Overall he's a neat figure, maybe the best of the Bee movie Deluxe cast.

Emerje

That's high praise, since I think the Ironhide/Ratchet mold is really good

My Sunstreaker should arrive today, but he has to put in some effort to top the Brawn figure from that movie.

I feel like we all have different favorites from that wave, I really liked Wheeljack.

Emerje

Wheeljack irked me just slightly with the limited ankles and the wings being on his shoulder, but he was still solid.

The Ratchet/Ironhide mode feels slightly incomplete in alt mode in the back, with maybe slightly too small of arms compared to the torso, but otherwise I like it too

Wow, nothing on that list jumps out at me as something I need or am after. A Grimlock reissue seems justified with how quickly he sold out, and that I've recently come around on getting the Dinobots.

But Jazz? Jazz is still very much available not to mention his inclusion in the 5 pack. Perceptor also feels unwarranted since he's also available at most online stores.

I'll be interested to see how Leader Megatron turns out, and if it will be worth the price tag.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Wow, nothing on that list jumps out at me as something I need or am after. A Grimlock reissue seems justified with how quickly he sold out, and that I've recently come around on getting the Dinobots.

But Jazz? Jazz is still very much available not to mention his inclusion in the 5 pack. Perceptor also feels unwarranted since he's also available at most online stores.

I'll be interested to see how Leader Megatron turns out, and if it will be worth the price tag.

This is what happens when they have to plan their case packouts a year or more in advance and figures they expect to be big sellers end up being shelf warmers like Earthrise Arcee.

Emerje

This may be more a 3P topic, but the base figures are official so...

About the DNA Design upgrade kits.
Lately, I struggle with them. They need glue, sometimes, things don't fit well, and the overall upgrade is barely worth the trouble and especially, the super expensive price.

Here, I upgraded Leader ROTB Scourge. The armor pieces are nice, but the "rib cage" is annoying. The worst is the head. The neck part was barely holding on the balljoint. I tried to improved things until... I destroyed everything. So I ended up screwing and gluing the old head on the new neck and the new neck on the torso. So now, the head does not turn at all.

At least he look nice, especially without the giraffe neck.





For the truck mode, the new rib cage gets in the way a bit, but the rest is the same fiddly transformation. I don't like the fact that the canon can no longer store like it did before, but I do love the fact that the canon now can be stuck between the legs to be completely out of the way. As for the sword, it just drop there. No little minions interaction possible. It still look nice.





So, was that upgrade kit worth the price of the whole damn figure?
No.
Not at all.
If the upgrade kit would sell for 50% off the price, it would be worth it. But at full price, it's not worth the money.

I secured my Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. I talked a bit about Sideswipe in the gamer thread, but he surprised me with how good he is.

As for Sunstreaker, he is a really fun figure. I like how he feels, and I like how he transforms and how he looks in both modes. He is fun! I really enjoy him. They also did a good job with his headsculpt.

Do you think Sideswipe will be retooled/repainted into Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker retooled/repainted into Sideswipe?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do you think Sideswipe will be retooled/repainted into Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker retooled/repainted into Sideswipe?

They'd both have to be concept figures since there is no Sunstreaker in the games and Sideswipe in the movies is the silver guy, there is no red car guy designed for the Bumblebee movie that I'm aware of.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do you think Sideswipe will be retooled/repainted into Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker retooled/repainted into Sideswipe?

They'd both have to be concept figures since there is no Sunstreaker in the games and Sideswipe in the movies is the silver guy, there is no red car guy designed for the Bumblebee movie that I'm aware of.

Emerje

And Mark Maher specifically made sure that these two particular figures were released together in the same wave, strongly implying that they're meant to go together as they are, even if they represent versions of the two from different continuities.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do you think Sideswipe will be retooled/repainted into Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker retooled/repainted into Sideswipe?

They'd both have to be concept figures since there is no Sunstreaker in the games and Sideswipe in the movies is the silver guy, there is no red car guy designed for the Bumblebee movie that I'm aware of.

Emerje

And Mark Maher specifically made sure that these two particular figures were released together in the same wave, strongly implying that they're meant to go together as they are, even if they represent versions of the two from different continuities.

And they do kinda sorta work together as a pair here

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do you think Sideswipe will be retooled/repainted into Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker retooled/repainted into Sideswipe?

They'd both have to be concept figures since there is no Sunstreaker in the games and Sideswipe in the movies is the silver guy, there is no red car guy designed for the Bumblebee movie that I'm aware of.

Emerje

And Mark Maher specifically made sure that these two particular figures were released together in the same wave, strongly implying that they're meant to go together as they are, even if they represent versions of the two from different continuities.

And they do kinda sorta work together as a pair here

They do look good together, just wish they were closer to the same size. Unfortunately they're working with two different scales here, all of the Bumblebee movie Deluxe Autobots are on the short side.

Emerje

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do you think Sideswipe will be retooled/repainted into Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker retooled/repainted into Sideswipe?

They'd both have to be concept figures since there is no Sunstreaker in the games and Sideswipe in the movies is the silver guy, there is no red car guy designed for the Bumblebee movie that I'm aware of.

Emerje

And Mark Maher specifically made sure that these two particular figures were released together in the same wave, strongly implying that they're meant to go together as they are, even if they represent versions of the two from different continuities.

And they do kinda sorta work together as a pair here

They do, but it's Hasbro, we all know they love to milk molds.

The second wave of Transformers Studio Series is being found in the US, The deluxes were found a little while ago at US Targets and Canadian Walmarts but the voyagers are fresher on the scene. The only new voyager mold of wave 2 is Shockwave (with a repacked WFC Starscream). He was found at US Targets (here's a specific sighting from Florida).

Below is a review if you are curious about the toy.

Amazon is also shipping out, mine arrives tomorrow.

Canada's GameStop PO is set for May 1st. So it's still a few weeks away. Hope it'll be shipped sooner!

As a Shockwave collector, I feel this figure is a wash at best. Good posability and proportions, but the cannon is too small and weird, his head looks like a football with ears, and his chest should have been lighter than the purple parts, not darker.

Mine just shipped from Pulse

Bummer, Gamestop delayed a few of the Studio Series releases scheduled for today. Shockwave shipped, but Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were pushed back to May 10 and Swoop all the way to July 1! Hopefully these are temporary delays and they end up coming sooner.

Emerje

A few notes from today's Transformers Fanstream:

TF:One Deluxe Optimus Prime was confirmed to be the first figure in the A Level category. They mentioned he should be easy to find and be on shelves for around 9 months. The figure is also specifically colored to perfectly match the movie color pallet.

They then went on to talk about the Wondercon reveals hitting stores now.

Nothing new to say about Swoop that we haven't already seen.

Apparently the size chart for the Bumblebee Movie lists Sunstreaker as a giant in bot mode and they chose to make him normal sized to match the other figures.

Nothing new to say about Sideswipe.

Our own Jon Bailey (AKA Epic Voice Guy) from the Twincast Podcast got a shoutout on the stream (you can hear him on the recent episode as of this time #347) for voicing Bumblebee Movie Shockwave in the movie!

Spacebridge "reveals" (just announced, not shown on the stream):

SS86 Core class Steeljaw
WFC Gamer Edition Deluxe Decepticon Trooper
Bumblebee Movie Voyager Skywarp,
SS86 Leader Springer (confirmed bulked up retool of the Siege Voyager)
SS86 Bumblebee (new mold)
Pulse Exclusive Comic Edition Leader Straxus

When they said SS86 Springer was a partial of the Siege figure upgraded to leader size, I was ready to throw something.

Most useless release of the line coming up.

And still, another leader slot that could have gone to a live action Dinobot.

For a team stressing how they will be releasing something for everyone this year for the anniversary, the only movie 1-5 thing right now is the MPM Brawl.

Also, everyone forgot about core Starscream apparently

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:When they said SS86 Springer was a partial of the Siege figure upgraded to leader size, I was ready to throw something.

You know, after seeing what they did with Blitzwing, I had an inkling that this would happen. So I just got a Siege Springer for my SS86 shelf and called it a day. Even if the new one is technically a new mold, I knew it wouldn't be all that different.

Most useless release of the line coming up. And still, another leader slot that could have gone to a live action Dinobot.

Agreed on both counts.

Where is G1 Ramjet?! I thought we would of had release info about him by now.

I need to see Leader Class Straxus! Also really hoping one of his accessories is a head in a jar, too.

Pretty lame that there's nothing Bay in the SS reveals, but even more so when you realize we're getting a single core class for the entire year. At least Mohawk rocks, and there's finally some stuff to look forward to in 2025!

Leader Straxus and Core Steeljaw are definite purchases. I've been waiting 32 years for a proper Straxus toy.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Pretty lame that there's nothing Bay in the SS reveals, but even more so when you realize we're getting a single core class for the entire year. At least Mohawk rocks, and there's finally some stuff to look forward to in 2025!

Makes it even sadder when you realize that they have said that "everyone will get something this year", and it seems like movies 1-5 plus Beast Machines are about to get the very short end of that stick. Just 1 core class each, unless we count MPM Brawl too

Swoop still looking great

Happily getting that comic Grimlock
And very excited for comic straxus, id love to get a good version of that guy

Steeljaw should hopefully be awesome too

Nothing in that list interests me besides Steeljaw and bee.

I do find it interesting that Bee states a new mold next to it, so what will it be? I feel the Netflix VW molds works just fine for G1 and can't imagine what possible improvements could be made. Not going to complain though if it totally rocks!

As for Steeljaw, it's nice to finally get a new one and hope it's as good if not better than the new Rumble/Frenzy. Only issue is it feel like a long ways off. Speaking if Frenzy, EE just emailed me to say my PO for it was pushed back to January 25!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:When they said SS86 Springer was a partial of the Siege figure upgraded to leader size, I was ready to throw something.

Most useless release of the line coming up.

And still, another leader slot that could have gone to a live action Dinobot.

What are you talking about? After Swoop the Dinobots are done, at least the ones that count!

Till-all-R1 wrote:Nothing in that list interests me besides Steeljaw and bee.

I do find it interesting that Bee states a new mold next to it, so what will it be? I feel the Netflix VW molds works just fine for G1 and can't imagine what possible improvements could be made. Not going to complain though if it totally rocks!

As for Steeljaw, it's nice to finally get a new one and hope it's as good if not better than the new Rumble/Frenzy. Only issue is it feel like a long ways off. Speaking if Frenzy, EE just emailed me to say my PO for it was pushed back to January 25!

Except that for accuracy's sake a proper 86 Bee needs to be more of a Chibi/SD design and not a proper Volkswagon that part forms.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:When they said SS86 Springer was a partial of the Siege figure upgraded to leader size, I was ready to throw something.

Most useless release of the line coming up.

And still, another leader slot that could have gone to a live action Dinobot.

What are you talking about? After Swoop the Dinobots are done, at least the ones that count!

Yes, poke the bear why don't you. We need the rest of the Bayverse Dinobots, starting with Slag and Strafe.

Surprised the Beewun seekers weren't given a ton of repaints at this point.

Quantum Surge wrote:Surprised the Beewun seekers weren't given a ton of repaints at this point.

Well, we got green Ramjet and Skywarp will finally bother showing himself at some point.

What I don't expect are Reactivate Starscream repaints.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:When they said SS86 Springer was a partial of the Siege figure upgraded to leader size, I was ready to throw something.

Most useless release of the line coming up.

And still, another leader slot that could have gone to a live action Dinobot.

What are you talking about? After Swoop the Dinobots are done, at least the ones that count!

Yes, poke the bear why don't you. We need the rest of the Bayverse Dinobots, starting with Slag and Strafe.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:Nothing in that list interests me besides Steeljaw and bee.

I do find it interesting that Bee states a new mold next to it, so what will it be? I feel the Netflix VW molds works just fine for G1 and can't imagine what possible improvements could be made. Not going to complain though if it totally rocks!

As for Steeljaw, it's nice to finally get a new one and hope it's as good if not better than the new Rumble/Frenzy. Only issue is it feel like a long ways off. Speaking if Frenzy, EE just emailed me to say my PO for it was pushed back to January 25!

Except that for accuracy's sake a proper 86 Bee needs to be more of a Chibi/SD design and not a proper Volkswagon that part forms.

This would also likely get them around having VW and licensing involved and give them more freedom for repaints.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:Nothing in that list interests me besides Steeljaw and bee.

I do find it interesting that Bee states a new mold next to it, so what will it be? I feel the Netflix VW molds works just fine for G1 and can't imagine what possible improvements could be made. Not going to complain though if it totally rocks!

As for Steeljaw, it's nice to finally get a new one and hope it's as good if not better than the new Rumble/Frenzy. Only issue is it feel like a long ways off. Speaking if Frenzy, EE just emailed me to say my PO for it was pushed back to January 25!

Except that for accuracy's sake a proper 86 Bee needs to be more of a Chibi/SD design and not a proper Volkswagon that part forms.

This would also likely get them around having VW and licensing involved and give them more freedom for repaints.

Agreed.
Even though NF BB is really the one figure I feel like I missed out on since I could never find him in-store or later for a reasonable price, I definitely haven’t forgot about it, and it makes this news of a brand-new mold in SS86 even sweeter.
I suppose this means Cliffjumper will follow at some point. Assuming the mold is on point, I’ll probably get it…. Because I assumed the SS86 Bee would just follow Blaster and be a slight repaint of the NF figure, I really though Buzzworthy’s Cliffjumper figure would be the definitive version.

But I didn’t see the livestream; is SS86 Bee a release for ‘25?