Premier Date For Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Cartoon Announced
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Netflix have been on social media today to announce the long awaited date we can watch this highly anticipated cartoon.
July 30th
Accompanying the announcement was a new thirty second teaser showing Megatron announcing that this is the day the Autobots will be destroyed. You can check the video at the links, or embedded below.
Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, aronjlove for sharing the Facebook link.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:12pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:24pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:If it is competent, and enjoyable on any level (unlike Prime Wars). I'll call that a win.
I think you'd like Cyberverse then.
Nope, not my thing, we can agree to disagree on that one. Tried so really hard to watch it, couldn't get into it. Unless this Netflix show really impresses, I still stand by my sentiments that Predacons Rising was the last good bit of TF Animaiton released.
Posted by sol magnus on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:27pm CDT
Posted by Lore Keeper on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:30pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:34pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by Immortal Starscream on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:49pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:If it is competent, and enjoyable on any level (unlike Prime Wars). I'll call that a win.
I think you'd like Cyberverse then.
Nope, not my thing, we can agree to disagree on that one. Tried so really hard to watch it, couldn't get into it. Unless this Netflix show really impresses, I still stand by my sentiments that Predacons Rising was the last good bit of TF Animaiton released.
it gets really good once you are past the first season. also gets REALLY dark in a lot of places. Lots of on screen deaths, and not just background characters either, named characters get taken out frequently. What finally sold me on the series was Hot Rod. in the third season they REALLY did him justice. You can actually see this Hot Rod becoming Rodimus Prime and actually being a good leader. sadly, all of this is sandwiched between more lighthearted filler episodes that if you didn't get into the first season, could ruin it for you.
back to the topic at hand, after seeing rooster teeth's more recent mecha anime, I do have high hopes for this show, regardless of what I think of the company or some of their other offerings. But Megatron... dang man... looks like he just needs some lipstick on those lips. might be a bit too JoJo for me.
Posted by aronjlove on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:01pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:If it is competent, and enjoyable on any level (unlike Prime Wars). I'll call that a win.
I think you'd like Cyberverse then.
Nope, not my thing, we can agree to disagree on that one. Tried so really hard to watch it, couldn't get into it. Unless this Netflix show really impresses, I still stand by my sentiments that Predacons Rising was the last good bit of TF Animaiton released.
I liked Predacons Rising / Beast Hunters / Transformers Prime. It wasn't perfect, but it still seemed pretty awesome to me. There were some limitations with the animation and Peter Cullen's Optimus Prime is way overdone (but that fault lies on the writers and/or directors). It was the last Transformers show that I tuned into as soon as I could.
Beast Wars and Animated were the other two series that struck a cord with me. I still think Beast Wars is probably the best series overall, though the computer animation is really starting to show it's age.
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:04pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:07pm CDT
Believe me, it took a whole decade for me to admit that Animated had any merit, and that is just from the written perspective. I still think the animation is ugly and unwatchable. Cyberverse gives me that same feel.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:08pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:If it is competent, and enjoyable on any level (unlike Prime Wars). I'll call that a win.
I think you'd like Cyberverse then.
Nope, not my thing, we can agree to disagree on that one. Tried so really hard to watch it, couldn't get into it. Unless this Netflix show really impresses, I still stand by my sentiments that Predacons Rising was the last good bit of TF Animaiton released.
I liked Predacons Rising / Beast Hunters / Transformers Prime. It wasn't perfect, but it still seemed pretty awesome to me. There were some limitations with the animation and Peter Cullen's Optimus Prime is way overdone (but that fault lies on the writers and/or directors). It was the last Transformers show that I tuned into as soon as I could.
Beast Wars and Animated were the other two series that struck a cord with me. I still think Beast Wars is probably the best series overall, though the computer animation is really starting to show it's age.
Got to agree with you here. I am a geewun'r, because I grew up watching the show. But if you were to ask me what I thought was the best Transformers cartoon, I will hands down say Beast Wars. Sure some of the slapstick elements kinda bugged me, but the characters, story, and just overall writing and tone really win it. Not to mention, it is one of only two instanced in Transformers history that made me cry... and STILL makes me cry.
Drift is cool, but imho will always be just a cheap imitation of BW Dinobot.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:15pm CDT
Animated was a hard slog with Season One. Picked up a bit with Season two and was hitting its stride with Season 3
Aesthetic was the main reason I didn't like Prime. Watched a few and still couldn't get into it. The human presence was too great. I wasn't all that keen on the Aligned Continuity it was based on either. I haven't been back to a TF show since.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:22pm CDT
I will give anything a go regardless of art style. I always think there's room in a franchise like Transformers for seriousness and humour, it's just finding the balance.
Posted by o.supreme on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:23pm CDT
Personally
1. The Transformers
2. Prime
3. Beast Wars
4. Headmasters
5. Masterforce
6. Victory/Zone
7. Car Robots/ R.I.D.
8. Beast Wars II
9. RiD2015
10. Rescue Bots
11. Animated
12. Energon
13. Beast Machines
14. Beast Wars Neo
15. Cybertron
16. Prime Wars Trilogy
17. Cyberverse
18. RB Academy
19. Go
20. Armada
Critically
1. Prime
2. Beast Wars
3. The Transformers
4. Animated
5. Rescue Bots
6. Beast Machines
7. RiD2015
8. Car Robots/ R.I.D.
9. Masterforce
10. Victory/Zone
11. Headmasters
12. Cyberverse
13. Beast Wars II
14. Beast Wars Neo
15. Rescue Bots Academy
16. Cybertron
17. Energon
18. Armada
19. Prime Wars Trilogy
20. Go
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:26pm CDT
I'm guessing that crying moment of yours was Dinobot's death, yes?Immortal Starscream wrote:Got to agree with you here. I am a geewun'r, because I grew up watching the show. But if you were to ask me what I thought was the best Transformers cartoon, I will hands down say Beast Wars. Sure some of the slapstick elements kinda bugged me, but the characters, story, and just overall writing and tone really win it. Not to mention, it is one of only two instanced in Transformers history that made me cry... and STILL makes me cry.
Drift is cool, but imho will always be just a cheap imitation of BW Dinobot.
In more recent years, a second tender moment from another animated series has made people tear up: Chief Burns' near-fatal close call and subsequent release from the hospital in the Rescue Bots episode "Family Business".
Posted by o.supreme on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:In more recent years, a second tender moment from another animated series has made people tear up: Chief Burns' near-fatal close call and subsequent release from the hospital in the Rescue Bots episode "Family Business".
Thus why RB ranks so high for me critically. It offers nothing much for me as an adult, but watching it with my son when it was new, it was so well written. I don't think there is any show on TV for kids currently that treats it's young viewers with such respect.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on June 22nd, 2020 @ 2:41pm CDT
I think it might just be me looking at the trailer and thinking that some of the punches look like it's a stock footage setup with the recieveing bot replying with a stock footage response, rather than the models being animated together through means of motion capture or something like that. I'm not saying that's actually how it was animated, but it'd make sense to me because it's probably easier to animate several different sets of stock footage compared to animating every single frame of a fight scene everytime.
Like I said, it'd not bad per se, and definitely makes sense if that's the case because they're trying to tie it into the toyline, but they're already a year behind. On the plus side, at least it doesn't have the Machinima head bob
Posted by Skritz on June 22nd, 2020 @ 3:22pm CDT
It seems people's mental image of what G1 was like is more in line with the much better animated and much cleaner motion picture. Mind you, in my case this is because I saw everyone's precious GEEWUN after the admittedly pretty 'meh to horrible' Unicron trilogy.
Honestly it seems like people like the ideas of G1 (at least in cartoon form) more than the characters and what little story arcs they might have had over such an episodic show. Maybe that's why my favorite season of it is maligned season 3. I actually like the stronger continuity with the Movie plot and onward, as well as Rodimus struggling with the leadership...even if the show eventually gives up and bring Optimus back.
Maybe its the Beast Wars fan in me who prefer a slightly stronger arc structure and the more central cast of Magnus, Springer, Arcee, Kup and the others. There's also the fact that for the most part, Transformers cartoon have stuck to a more stable recurring cast ever since season 3 and rarely, if ever, went back to G1 season 1 and 2 insanely huge rotating cast.
Posted by o.supreme on June 22nd, 2020 @ 3:44pm CDT
Skritz wrote:The animation is piss poor even for the time and so riddled with errors that every single episode on TFwiki has a bucket list of moments where the animation goes wrong.
To quote Unicron from TF:TM -"You Exaggerate", or perhaps your argument has been shaped by fans who did not live during that era and jump to these conclusions harshly. There are errors to be sure, but no more so than any other series of the time. It's not excusable mind you, but its just what occurred during that time. It's funny to think that Rhino tried to correct some of the mistakes, and add in sound effects not originally present, on its first DVD releases and was lambasted by the fans of the time because they wanted it preserved the way it was. It's actually high end when it comes to the 80's, not sub par. If you want that watch any Hanna Barbara show. Scooby-Doo is among some of the worst when it comes to technical errors, yet is still beloved to this day. Maybe it is because I've seen each episode dozens of times, but the mistakes to me do not deter from the story. Audio and animation mistakes like what occurred especially in Armada are far worse in impeding storytelling IMHO. There are plenty of examples of beautifully animated scenes in the original series btw.
If you'll notice from a technical perspective I ranked BW higher than the original, THAT is how much I like and respect that series. Kind of like how Star Trek TNG is technically superior in every way from OST, - the original series still has it's core fan base who love that series more than any other iteration, and rightfully so.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2020 @ 4:52pm CDT
In all honesty, when people say "Beast Wars is the best," what they usually mean is that "Beast Wars Season 2 is the best," with their mind subconsciously attributing the greatness of that season onto the entire show when that couldn't be further from the truth. Beast Wars Season 2 was the apex of that show, while the rest of it is more of a guilty pleasure.
Posted by o.supreme on June 22nd, 2020 @ 5:00pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on June 22nd, 2020 @ 5:09pm CDT
The G1 cartoon isn't my fave overall but it has some of my fave versions of characters just due to how likable they could be, the top of which is Optimus Prime, I'm usually just "sure he exists" with most versions of Optimus and don't tend to be favorites but there is something so wholesome about G1 Prime.
(I consider Animated and to an extent UT Optimus to come close, Optimus Primal doesn't count for me but he's also up there.)
So overall I think the most important part of making a Transformers show work is the characters, like who cares if the show is "dark" or something if you don't find any entertainment in the characters or care about them right?
So I hope the netflix show can deliver on that to some extent even if the trailer isn't super exciting.
Posted by Quantum Surge on June 22nd, 2020 @ 9:42pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 22nd, 2020 @ 10:12pm CDT
let's see, for english language releases...
5. Animated
4. Cyberverse
3. Prime
2. Sunbow
1. Beast Wars
what do y'all think?
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2020 @ 10:21pm CDT
1. Beast Wars
2. Rescue Bots
3. Animated
4. Tie: Beast Machines and Car Robots/RiD 2001
5. Super-God Masterforce
Posted by Quantum Surge on June 23rd, 2020 @ 12:23am CDT
1. Beast Wars
2. TFP
3. Animated
4. Cyberverse
5. Cybertron
Posted by Burn on June 23rd, 2020 @ 1:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:what do y'all think?
Think it's off-topic.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2020 @ 7:41am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 23rd, 2020 @ 8:05am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2020 @ 8:14am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I expect to see 'repaint' characters a plenty to save on creating new character models
Right. As it is a CG show, I'm expecting the BW effect with the size of the roster. Depending on how in parallel they were made, I would assume Reflector, Barricade and the Eight Tetrajets are part of this line for that very purpose.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 23rd, 2020 @ 8:48am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2020 @ 10:55am CDT
Posted by Toizarus on June 23rd, 2020 @ 11:10am CDT
To quote Unicron from TF:TM -"You Exaggerate", or perhaps your argument has been shaped by fans who did not live during that era and jump to these conclusions harshly. There are errors to be sure, but no more so than any other series of the time.
I'd disagree with that. I've been watching Gobots recently and it is startling just how consistently animated and error-free the series is by comparison with Transformers. It's not the only show from that era that does well by comparison either. And I DID live through the original Transformers series when it aired.
I also echo OP's comments - I think it's a poor choice for top series because it's all over the place in terms of quality and can be genuinely hard to watch. People just put it on a pedestal because of its legacy.
Getting back to the main topic I'm looking forward to the series but to be honest I don't expect much beyond the Prime Trilogy. Smoother animation, okay great, but the script and voice-acting seem really wooden, really over-doing the grim-dark SERIOUS DRAMA. Remember when in the original series Bots could stop megatron returning to Cybertron and stand around chuckling at a few jokes afterwards? God, I miss that sense of easy camaraderie.
Hopefully I'm wrong and the series will be amazing. Fingers crossed.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 23rd, 2020 @ 11:16am CDT
Sakamoto tried to do something with Full-Tilt by making him the most important component of Trypticon, in that each time Trypticon came back to life was due to the continued survival of Full-Tilt.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I would be so impressed if they put effort into making Cog, Brunt etc into new and memorable characters. Maybe someone might even do something anything with Full Tilt.
And there was Full-Tilt's poignant role in the BWU story "Intersectionality"
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 23rd, 2020 @ 2:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And there was Full-Tilt's poignant role in the BWU story "Intersectionality"
I mean direct representation via a show or something official [and canon] from Hasbro/Takara. Considering Full Tilt is pretty much the only Decepticon non-Earth based car (also not part of a combiner team) and his design being quite distinct, he has been little more than Trypticon's wacky chest plate within continuity.
Note: Much in the same way some people are dismissive of 3P figures, for me that bugbear is Convention/Collectors Club merch.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 23rd, 2020 @ 2:56pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Skritz wrote:The animation is piss poor even for the time and so riddled with errors that every single episode on TFwiki has a bucket list of moments where the animation goes wrong.
To quote Unicron from TF:TM -"You Exaggerate", or perhaps your argument has been shaped by fans who did not live during that era and jump to these conclusions harshly. There are errors to be sure, but no more so than any other series of the time. It's not excusable mind you, but its just what occurred during that time. It's funny to think that Rhino tried to correct some of the mistakes, and add in sound effects not originally present, on its first DVD releases and was lambasted by the fans of the time because they wanted it preserved the way it was. It's actually high end when it comes to the 80's, not sub par. If you want that watch any Hanna Barbara show. Scooby-Doo is among some of the worst when it comes to technical errors, yet is still beloved to this day. Maybe it is because I've seen each episode dozens of times, but the mistakes to me do not deter from the story. Audio and animation mistakes like what occurred especially in Armada are far worse in impeding storytelling IMHO. There are plenty of examples of beautifully animated scenes in the original series btw.
If you'll notice from a technical perspective I ranked BW higher than the original, THAT is how much I like and respect that series. Kind of like how Star Trek TNG is technically superior in every way from OST, - the original series still has it's core fan base who love that series more than any other iteration, and rightfully so.
I gotta go with this one too, the animation was standard to high end for the time of G1. It always kills me when I see someone talk about older cartoon animation or even older movie special effects being bad because it doesn't compare to modern day versions. It seems like people just can't appreciate what came before for the technological advancements they lead to.
Look at the series REBOOT (the original not the remake/continuation from Netflix)You could literally see the improvements in CQ animation as the seasons progressed, but I've heard people complain, "why didn't they use the good animation in the season 1?" And explaining that it didn't exist then just doesn't seem to get through to them for some reason. But I digress.
I fall under the category that Beast Wars did have the best storytelling out of all of the series so far. Animated's story telling was pretty good to, but I also needed to get past the animation. Prime would be a #2 for story telling, until the end of the third season, then IMHO, it tanked. The unicron trillogy I would go with being pretty much the worst in story, especially with every series have Megatron become Galvatron only to revert back for the next series. Everything else is pretty much in between, though I do like how they handled Hot Rod in Cyberverse even if my favorite episode was the Arcee/Grimlock buddy episode.
Posted by Cyberstrike on June 24th, 2020 @ 5:52pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:o.supreme wrote:Skritz wrote:The animation is piss poor even for the time and so riddled with errors that every single episode on TFwiki has a bucket list of moments where the animation goes wrong.
To quote Unicron from TF:TM -"You Exaggerate", or perhaps your argument has been shaped by fans who did not live during that era and jump to these conclusions harshly. There are errors to be sure, but no more so than any other series of the time. It's not excusable mind you, but its just what occurred during that time. It's funny to think that Rhino tried to correct some of the mistakes, and add in sound effects not originally present, on its first DVD releases and was lambasted by the fans of the time because they wanted it preserved the way it was. It's actually high end when it comes to the 80's, not sub par. If you want that watch any Hanna Barbara show. Scooby-Doo is among some of the worst when it comes to technical errors, yet is still beloved to this day. Maybe it is because I've seen each episode dozens of times, but the mistakes to me do not deter from the story. Audio and animation mistakes like what occurred especially in Armada are far worse in impeding storytelling IMHO. There are plenty of examples of beautifully animated scenes in the original series btw.
If you'll notice from a technical perspective I ranked BW higher than the original, THAT is how much I like and respect that series. Kind of like how Star Trek TNG is technically superior in every way from OST, - the original series still has it's core fan base who love that series more than any other iteration, and rightfully so.
I gotta go with this one too, the animation was standard to high end for the time of G1. It always kills me when I see someone talk about older cartoon animation or even older movie special effects being bad because it doesn't compare to modern day versions. It seems like people just can't appreciate what came before for the technological advancements they lead to.
Look at the series REBOOT (the original not the remake/continuation from Netflix)You could literally see the improvements in CQ animation as the seasons progressed, but I've heard people complain, "why didn't they use the good animation in the season 1?" And explaining that it didn't exist then just doesn't seem to get through to them for some reason. But I digress.
I fall under the category that Beast Wars did have the best storytelling out of all of the series so far. Animated's story telling was pretty good to, but I also needed to get past the animation. Prime would be a #2 for story telling, until the end of the third season, then IMHO, it tanked. The unicron trillogy I would go with being pretty much the worst in story, especially with every series have Megatron become Galvatron only to revert back for the next series. Everything else is pretty much in between, though I do like how they handled Hot Rod in Cyberverse even if my favorite episode was the Arcee/Grimlock buddy episode.
Given that most of the episodes in seasons 2 and 3 were being made at a break neck pace with some episodes being made in about 4 months from finished script to aired on TV it's actually kind of amazing how well some of those episodes hold up at all (and some that don't). I do think on a technical/artistic level shows like Prime, Animated, Cyberverse, and Robots in Disguise (both versions) are better LOOKING shows than the original, it still has it's charm.
Posted by Quantum Surge on June 25th, 2020 @ 10:42am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 25th, 2020 @ 2:32pm CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:G1's show can suck at times with its redundant characters, subgroups, and animation errors, but I think the animation was at least better than the Japanese spinoff content for how more expressive the character movement is and not having lip movement be simply a flapping mouth.
Which is quite funny as it was animated in that region anyway.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 2nd, 2020 @ 12:39pm CDT
That's not all, over on the Transformers Official Facebook page, these same images are also turned into animated posters!
What do you think of these? Looking forward to this new cartoon? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2020 @ 12:45pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on July 2nd, 2020 @ 1:08pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on July 2nd, 2020 @ 1:09pm CDT
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Posted by Ultra Mad on July 2nd, 2020 @ 4:41pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2020 @ 4:44pm CDT
With the letter M.aronjlove wrote:And finally, Starscream
She looks more like Siege Chromia with a new head and cape/wings to me.Ultra Mad wrote:Anybody think Elita-1 model is a preview for a Earthrise Arcee retool for the Elita-1 figure that was listed for Netflix figures to come?
Besides, a pink fembot to another pink fembot would seem redundant from a marketing perspective.
Posted by Tuned Agent on July 2nd, 2020 @ 6:51pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 2nd, 2020 @ 8:32pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:But why do the images say "a Netflix original anime series"? This isn't an anime (at least, not by the western definition).
They like to call their animated shows for older audiences "anime". Pretty damn annoying really.
So what's the story with the secret letters?
Emerje