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Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Wednesday, April 29th, 2015 4:18PM CDT

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File this one under "Unconfirmed"...

A Weibo user by the name of Lost-Zzl has provided images of a brand new deco on the Generations Roadbuster mold (you can see the original, in our galleries, right here) and it's a deco you'd expect on a vehicle such as this, but seems to come from a source most of us have forgotten: Generation 2!

General Optimus Prime was meant to be a redeco of Autoroller Dirtbag, but was canceled towards the end of the Generation 2 line, back in the early '90s and the figure never really saw the light of day, outside of a few images and some convention displays. The reason we say this is unconfirmed is because we've yet to hear anything about this figure coming to this year's BotCon and we definitely haven't heard anything of this particular deco, but there are some things that support it's potential release.

Here's G2 General Optimus, to refresh your memory:
Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

First of all, Lost-Zzl has this Roadbuster on hand along with several already revealed and in hand upcoming exclusive releases and second, it has what looks to be a professionally (factory) applied tampograph of the Generation 2 Autobot logo on it's backend in vehicle mode.

Since this is out of left field and the first we're hearing of this, we're telling everyone to take this with at least a grain of salt, but to hope for the best and as of right now it could be a BotCon attendee exclusive or even a part of the TCC. You know the drill: As soon as we know, you will!

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

Transformers News: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco

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Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680566)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on April 29th, 2015 @ 4:22pm CDT
damn he looks amazing in the green deco..........damn!!!! :BOT: :CON:
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680568)
Posted by philswitch engage on April 29th, 2015 @ 4:24pm CDT
meh
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680572)
Posted by Mkall on April 29th, 2015 @ 4:25pm CDT
[Spock]Fascinating[/Spock]
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680574)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 29th, 2015 @ 4:27pm CDT
Another abandoned concept? Would fit with Oilmaster, though I would keep in mind the possibility of him being named "Sergeant Hound" instead. I'm saying that not only because of the star on the hood, but also to "save" the G1 Optimus Prime characters, as Hasbro reportedly does not want him, or G1 Megatron proper to be touched by the conventions (which is why we got Megazarak in 2004 instead).
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680578)
Posted by Editor on April 29th, 2015 @ 4:28pm CDT
I like this more than 4/5th on the convention set.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680604)
Posted by Madeus Prime on April 29th, 2015 @ 5:25pm CDT
Oh, oh, oh! Please have this version of Prime act like Tommy Lee Jones in the Fugitive! (we're dealing with axiom nexus remember, anything is possible)
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680610)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 29th, 2015 @ 5:37pm CDT
Oh hey, the first (possible) botcon 2015 figure I want.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680615)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on April 29th, 2015 @ 5:53pm CDT
He looks good in that deco.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680621)
Posted by Desslok2201 on April 29th, 2015 @ 6:00pm CDT
I gotta say, I think this idea of letting unreleased figs see the light of day is one of the best they've ever had. If they continue to pump out these and the transforming action masters, I'm going to need a lot more clients.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680627)
Posted by Editor on April 29th, 2015 @ 6:17pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Oh, oh, oh! Please have this version of Prime act like Tommy Lee Jones in the Fugitive! (we're dealing with axiom nexus remember, anything is possible)


:APPLAUSE:
bad Tommy Lee Jones impersonation wrote: Alright, listen up, people. I like that idea.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680633)
Posted by Optimizzy on April 29th, 2015 @ 6:29pm CDT
I really like this homage. If it supposed to represent Prime I'd like to get it.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680679)
Posted by Lucky Logician on April 29th, 2015 @ 9:33pm CDT
Please understand, I am NOT complaining. I will be very happy if this turns out to be true.

That said, I'm still really surprised this wasn't made from one of Dump Trucks we already have molds of. Or maybe they could've waited a year or so and done if from a future Dump Truck mold we have coming out as part of Combiner Wars... ;)
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680684)
Posted by Rated X on April 29th, 2015 @ 9:54pm CDT
So basically this means there will be no Flywheels…

There is never more than one voyager in the convention exclusives. I would still want this just for my G2 shelf. But hopefully Renderform can improve it like he did Megaplex. He needs a proper head some G2 accurate missiles that can clip to his shoulders.

Also here we go again with the flip flopping…

Botcon 2012 – No 3rd parties in the dealer room

Botcon 2013 – 3rd parties are ok (need to attract more dealers)

Botcon 2014 – Didn’t go (you tell me)

Botcon 2015 – No 3rd parties in the dealer room

Botcon 2016 prediction - 3rd parties are ok again (Chicago flopped)
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680690)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on April 29th, 2015 @ 10:00pm CDT
That figure is awesome! Though, I'm getting a Hound vibe from this. Other than that, the toy is spectacularly phenomenal. :APPLAUSE:
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680706)
Posted by Amelie on April 29th, 2015 @ 11:03pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:Why is he squatting? Looks like he's taking a dump.


Maybe Pat Lee designed him :DANCE: Image
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680718)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on April 30th, 2015 @ 1:04am CDT
This set is getting worse and worse... how does this have anything to do with TransTech, the planned Beast Machines sequel. FunPub made a universe to explore what it would've been like, and this year's set is suppose to take place in said universe, yet no TransTech are being used... they have definitely dropped the ball with this IMHO
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680736)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 30th, 2015 @ 2:25am CDT
Looks good in green but it's still a lousy figure with a decent altmode. I got regular Roadbuster for £12.99 and I still feel like I paid way too much.

Also the AoE Hound-esque vibe coming from this redeco makes me more annoyed that I still haven't seen the Voyager Hound figure for sale where I live at all. Millions of those Power Battler or one step changer versions, sure... but not the one I actually want to pay money for. Guess it's gonna be another search on eBay... though I do so like buying figures from the shelves like when I was a kid.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680746)
Posted by BERSEKAEL on April 30th, 2015 @ 4:00am CDT
reminds me movieverse Flak

Image
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680758)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on April 30th, 2015 @ 6:17am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks good in green but it's still a lousy figure with a decent altmode. I got regular Roadbuster for £12.99 and I still feel like I paid way too much.

Also the AoE Hound-esque vibe coming from this redeco makes me more annoyed that I still haven't seen the Voyager Hound figure for sale where I live at all. Millions of those Power Battler or one step changer versions, sure... but not the one I actually want to pay money for. Guess it's gonna be another search on eBay... though I do so like buying figures from the shelves like when I was a kid.


Voyager Hound is the only AOE toy I bought and I love him.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680780)
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 30th, 2015 @ 7:54am CDT
Actually, I think diaclone will be a theme in this year's convention, and possible future offerings. Perhaps Ironhide, an Insecticon and other will get the Diamond treatment? Maybe they will use targetmasters for the Diaclone "pilots"...

Of course, if this does happen, they will have the good sense to understand that they are still TFs, who have somehow partnered with Diaclone people (possibly piloting target master mechs, or just supersized in the same way that the Diaclone partner of magnificus was - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Magnificus_(G1) )

I suspect that future diaclones will be:

- powered convoy (with diaclone driver repaint of that white thing in the current idw inspired version)

- blue powered convoy recolour of combiner wars optimus
- red mirage coloured dragstrip
- other diaclone recolours of combiner wars figures

I also wouldn't be surprised to see waspinator getting some recolours (fox kids, transmetal, etc).

Enjoy, and remember that i told you so!
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680792)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 30th, 2015 @ 9:18am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Actually, I think diaclone will be a theme in this year's convention, and possible future offerings. Perhaps Ironhide, an Insecticon and other will get the Diamond treatment? Maybe they will use targetmasters for the Diaclone "pilots"...

Of course, if this does happen, they will have the good sense to understand that they are still TFs, who have somehow partnered with Diaclone people (possibly piloting target master mechs, or just supersized in the same way that the Diaclone partner of magnificus was - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Magnificus_(G1) )

I suspect that future diaclones will be:

- powered convoy (with diaclone driver repaint of that white thing in the current idw inspired version)

- blue powered convoy recolour of combiner wars optimus
- red mirage coloured dragstrip
- other diaclone recolours of combiner wars figures

I also wouldn't be surprised to see waspinator getting some recolours (fox kids, transmetal, etc).

Enjoy, and remember that i told you so!


Maybe next year: FunPub can not use molds that are used by Hasbro at the time. In other words, any toy that's newly put on the shelf can't be used until Hasbro's done. So for this year, Combiner Wars are out

As the setting is Axiom Nexus, home of the TransTech (which has nothing to do with the aborted line aside from the designs), the theme is simple: Anything goes (within limits)!
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680801)
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 30th, 2015 @ 10:06am CDT
I didn't say the combiner wars stuff was this year... But this year will see diaclone targetmasters...
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1680806)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 30th, 2015 @ 10:31am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:I didn't say the combiner wars stuff was this year... But this year will see diaclone targetmasters...


I wouldn't see how, though, maybe that's just me. I don't see any hint of Diaclone/Microman anywhere.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681052)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 30th, 2015 @ 10:57pm CDT
Other than colors, Don't think this toy looks anything like G2 Autoroller Optimus Prime.

:lol: G2 Autoroller Optimus Prime. Had a Construction vehcile dump truck. Not a combat jeep looking vehicle. :lol:
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681067)
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 30th, 2015 @ 11:48pm CDT
Yes, but in all honesty, would you rather a lorry, or a military off road vehicle, as the updated version?

I hope both this and the "urban cammo" version of the same mold come out, too, preferably with new names for each (and no "us army" tampographs on them).

I'm going to rename him as a synonym to "convoy":

- http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/convoy

Possibly "Safeguard", " Cavalcade", "Crocodile", or something else.

What I WOULD like to see printed on him is the term "Military Convoy", or " Rolling Thunder" which would be fitting, right?

The urban cammo version (Hound) could be from this pool:

- http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hound

Perhaps "Scout", " Bird-Dog ", "Hunt-Down", "Tracker", "Badger", "Bombardier",
" Cannoncade", "Track-Down".

I hope these two are generic "grunts" in the Autobot forces. Heck, I'd also love a red version to represent the genetic Autobot Soldier models used in the Fall of Cybertron game.

Anyone else?
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681103)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 1st, 2015 @ 2:34am CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:Voyager Hound is the only AOE toy I bought and I love him.


Looks like I'll have to pay £10 over the usual Voyager price to buy him new on ebay. Free delivery though. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FTransformer-Generations-Age-Of-Extinction-Voyager-Hound-NEW-%2F391119349863%3Fpt%3DLH_DefaultDomain_3%26hash%3Ditem5b1087a867%26


Also they have an unofficial Leader Class Hound figure from another seller there.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FTransformers-Age-of-Extinction-Leader-Class-Hound-WEIJIANG-New-UK%2F261860542502%3F_trksid%3Dp2047675.c100005.m1851%26_trkparms%3Daid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20140122125356%2526meid%253Db08513a45f404dc7bd87f13fdf45b8ba%2526pid%253D100005%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D6%2526sd%253D391119349863%26rt%3Dnc%26
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681182)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 1st, 2015 @ 11:10am CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:This set is getting worse and worse... how does this have anything to do with TransTech, the planned Beast Machines sequel. FunPub made a universe to explore what it would've been like, and this year's set is suppose to take place in said universe, yet no TransTech are being used... they have definitely dropped the ball with this IMHO
Tell me truthfully. Have you read any of the TransTech stories that Fun Pub has produced? Because Fun Pub's TransTech is not a Beast Machines sequel and has nothing to do with the original abandoned Transtech series. All Fun Pub did was take the character designs of the canceled series and recycle/reinvent them for something new entirely.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681192)
Posted by Pete@BotCon on May 1st, 2015 @ 11:43am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Maybe next year: FunPub can not use molds that are used by Hasbro at the time. In other words, any toy that's newly put on the shelf can't be used until Hasbro's done. So for this year, Combiner Wars are out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEbwZfkeIt8
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681199)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 1st, 2015 @ 11:57am CDT
Pete@BotCon wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Maybe next year: FunPub can not use molds that are used by Hasbro at the time. In other words, any toy that's newly put on the shelf can't be used until Hasbro's done. So for this year, Combiner Wars are out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEbwZfkeIt8


I still don't forgive you for not putting the toys in chocolate eggs, it would've been better to bust open a giant kinder surprise egg/wonderball for oilmaster instead of the extremely telegraphed "fakeout". [-(
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681243)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 1st, 2015 @ 2:12pm CDT
I can't believe it's been this long and we still haven't gotten a Hauler redecoed from RTS Grappel. I mean, Geeeeeeeeeeesh.

I'll also be really disappointed if they don't use the Generations Arcee mold for something.

Maybe they can use it for the Army 3 pack. Color each one differently like they did with the 2013 Welcoming Committee.

They could make the three pack a Charlies Angels type deal.

Hot Rod's Angels.

ORRRRRRR

Make 'em Decepticons. They could use the Animated Drag Strip deco again.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681391)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 2nd, 2015 @ 12:06am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:I can't believe it's been this long and we still haven't gotten a Hauler redecoed from RTS Grappel. I mean, Geeeeeeeeeeesh.


Should such a Hauler redeco be yellow to match his one appearance in the G1 cartoon, or green as the color eHobby released him in, so as to differentiate him from Grapple?
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681722)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 2nd, 2015 @ 7:25pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:I can't believe it's been this long and we still haven't gotten a Hauler redecoed from RTS Grappel. I mean, Geeeeeeeeeeesh.


Should such a Hauler redeco be yellow to match his one appearance in the G1 cartoon, or green as the color eHobby released him in, so as to differentiate him from Grapple?


I'm thinking the green color scheme. Those are more or less his official colors, as far as his toys are concerned.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1681993)
Posted by RodimusRex on May 3rd, 2015 @ 3:51pm CDT
My hope would be Scoop in arctic deco as G2 Sergeant Hound (who was an arctic deco bulldozer) and a military truck/hummer of some kind as the military deco Euro-release Autoroller Ironhide.

That way you get the three military G1 Autorollers in one pack.

Then maybe a Decepticon three-pack at some point with stealth bomber Megatron in G2 deco, an accompanying Starscream in matching deco, and a rally car Soundwave.

Actually I'd really like to see the Combiner Wars molds used in the future as the G2. Maybe CW Prime as the Torso with a G2 Comics deco. G2 emblems, cracked winshield. Characters like Rapido/Drench/etc. as limbs.

I can see Combiner Wars making for some truly oddball sets in the future. Maybe an RiD combiner with Hotspot reworked as RiD Prime. Dragstrip as RiD Mirage. Offroad as RiD Ironhide.

Since the CW figures can be mismatched, new teams of repaints can be formed from the parts.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682039)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 3rd, 2015 @ 8:05pm CDT
For those who haven't read the "Badlands" story that Oilmaster first appeared in, here it is (courtesy of fellow user Powered Convoy). Click each pic to read in full size.

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Notes:
  • The setting year of 2034 places this story in the Japanese G1 cartoon timeline one year before Operation Combination and United EX.
  • Iron Town originally appeared as the alien Western setting seen in the first episode of Victory.
  • Magnificus's partner, Ga'mede, is not an Earth human, but an alien. His tininess is his natural size. See here for more.
  • Ga'mede's crack about "Hawk" not looking like a Pretender is a reference to Metalhawk, who went by the name of "Hawk" in his human guise in the Masterforce series.
  • "Hawk" is really the G2 Decepticon Skyscorcher Eagle Eye using his European name as an alias. BUT, while the last panel has him drawn like his G2 toy, the rest of the issue has him drawn with the head of the Micromaster G1 Autobot Eagle Eye of the Air Patrol. So in this story, the Autobot Micromaster defected to the Decepticons, explaining his conspicuous absence from the United EX fiction, in which the other three Air Patrol members (Tread Bolt, Blaze Master, and Sky High) all appear (as Jetmaster, Choppermaster, and Airmaster, respectively).
  • Last but not least, the person that Magnificus believes to be Skyquake isn't Skyquake at all, but is instead the Decepticon High Regent Scrash, who was the nebulous main antagonist of the Operation Combination (and United EX) fiction.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682058)
Posted by prjkt on May 3rd, 2015 @ 9:21pm CDT
RodimusRex wrote:My hope would be Scoop in arctic deco as G2 Sergeant Hound (who was an arctic deco bulldozer) and a military truck/hummer of some kind as the military deco Euro-release Autoroller Ironhide.

That way you get the three military G1 Autorollers in one pack.

Then maybe a Decepticon three-pack at some point with stealth bomber Megatron in G2 deco, an accompanying Starscream in matching deco, and a rally car Soundwave.

I like that first idea - and that decent repaint of Roadbusster might just be what you're after.

As for the Decepticons, we're almost two thirds of the way there anyway - Reprolabels have a sweet G2 label set for Megatron, and the TFSS this year has a Classics Starscream with a G2 deco coming. We'd just need to slap a Soundwave head onto a repaint of Gen. Skids, Universe Smokescreen or RTS Jazz for the last part of that entourage.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682090)
Posted by Flux Convoy on May 3rd, 2015 @ 11:18pm CDT
Rated X wrote:So basically this means there will be no Flywheels…

There is never more than one voyager in the convention exclusives.

There were two voyagers in the souvenirs in 2009 and 2011.
:BOT:
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682145)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 4th, 2015 @ 7:54am CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:
Rated X wrote:So basically this means there will be no Flywheels…

There is never more than one voyager in the convention exclusives.

There were two voyagers in the souvenirs in 2009 and 2011.
:BOT:


Let me take the opportunity to count all Yoyagers and their equivalents, and larger per year, including souvenirs:

2005
Deathsaurus

2006
Axalon Optimus Primal

Darksyde Megatron

2007
Dreadwind

Alpha Trion

2008
Optimus Prime
Starscream

Megatron

2009
Landshark
Flak

Banzai-tron
Razorclaw

2010
Spark
Clench

Double Punch

2011
The Motormaster

Toxitron
Galvatron (SG)

2012
Gigatron

Octopunch (SG)

2013
Obsidian
Megaplex

Sandstorm

2014
Pirate Scorponok
Knight Ginrai

Knight Alpha Trizer

2015
Battletrap
Megatron

???

The average number seems to be 2 to 3 per year, with 4 being the most. With the revelation of "General Optimus Prime" the chances of a Flywheels are slim, but not 0. Keep your fingers crossed.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682177)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 4th, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT
Though, in all honesty, guys, do you really REALLY want Fun Pub to make Flywheels out of Blitzwing? You guys do all remember how much that mold is loathed and despised for its bad shoulders that were never fixed in any of the four releases it's had, right? Do you all really want the dissatisfaction of Fun Pub making Flywheels and then being upset over the flawed shoulders for a fifth time, especially when this Flywheels would arguably be the most expensive version of the mold yet? Are you guys really willing to shell out all that much money for yet another release of the bad-shouldered Blitzwing mold? Sure, you could try modding it to fix the shoulders, but how many of you would be willing to take the risk of modding an uber expensive BotCon figure? Wouldn't it be more merciful of Fun Pub to spare us from yet another release of the very mold that has already given so many people plenty of disappointment? You'd save a lot of money in the process.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682189)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 4th, 2015 @ 11:15am CDT
Sheesh, yes. I still want that toy badly.

The shoulder issue is no surprise to us anymore. The awesomeness of having the PAIR of the two Duocons and a really nice head sculpt and paint scheme on that toy would be a joy. At the root of it... those two together are WAY cooler than just one of the two. That's synergy, man. The sum is greater than the total of the two parts.

And seriously, the shoulders are no deal breaker. It moves a little when posing the arms. That's not a big deal next to not being able to transform a toy, etc.

Will be crossing my fingers.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682193)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 4th, 2015 @ 11:21am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Sheesh, yes. I still want that toy badly.

The shoulder issue is no surprise to us anymore. The awesomeness of having the PAIR of the two Duocons and a really nice head sculpt and paint scheme on that toy would be a joy. At the root of it... those two together are WAY cooler than just one of the two. That's synergy, man. The sum is greater than the total of the two parts.

And seriously, the shoulders are no deal breaker. It moves a little when posing the arms. That's not a big deal next to not being able to transform a toy, etc.

Will be crossing my fingers.


Yeah, I would want the set, and Blitzwing's mold is really the only way I can see getting him. Everyone called it when Blitzwing and Springer came out. They do compliment each other well.

And these are more collector oriented anyway so I don't think there's too much of an issue with the shoulders. They're more for display rather than playing with.

I remember getting Universe Darkwing (Darkwind), and suddenly I had to have The Botcon Dreadwind to complete the duo. There something satisfying about having all the members of a set.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682200)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 4th, 2015 @ 11:51am CDT
Mind you... aside from all this chatter about the duocons, I STILL can't help thinking how awesome (and off base) an Onyx Primal from the Sandstorm would be... just for the tumbler mode.

BUT I think the Jiaxus mold is probably a better choice. I just need to get some black paint and make that. Heh.

Okay. Back on track. Talk about Botcon, people.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682202)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 4th, 2015 @ 11:56am CDT
I think part of the problem with the shoulders was the way Blitzwing et. al. were packaged. If no rubber bands are being used to keep the shoulders together in the packaging, then the deformation might not take place, making the shoulders the best ever for the mold.

Do BotCon and Club figures ever come that well secured in their packaging? I seem to remember foam packaging, but I have yet to open my only club figure (Thrustinator) to see how any of them come.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682203)
Posted by RodimusRex on May 4th, 2015 @ 11:56am CDT
When I mentioned Starscream, I was picturing an ATB Starscream homage. Maybe Energon Starscream released in colors matching Stealth Bomber Megatron at retail with the G2 deco.

Or Energon Starscream in a two-pack with Stealth Megatron, both re-decoed as the G2 release.

I know the TFSS is doing camo Starscream. What appeals to me about General Prime, Arctic Hound, Autoroller Iron Hide, etc. is that by virtue of being near-unreleased or never released final G2 molds, they represent the "final form" of the original G1 continuity.

I always felt like if you wanted to do something like Ninja Turtles Forever or the old JLA/JSA team-ups, in some ways the true representation of O.G. G1 would be a world where everyone is in very late G2 forms. I realize Fun Pub in particular has taken stabs at G2 "continuity" but in my head-canon, the cartoon continuity has a branch that ends up with all of the old Autobots as military vehicles and most of the Decepticons as jets. Galvatron tried to reformat himself into a tank to break his connection to Unicron but the purple patches are bits of his Galvatron infection. When he became "Hero Megatron", the Galvatron infection was turning him purple again.

I imagine the Combaticons building their maker Starscream a new body (hence the camo deco) and at some point Starscream and Megatron getting fused together in the Stealth Bomber mash-up form.

While I'm babbling about G2 though, one thing I'd really like to try as a custom would be a G2 Comic Hot Rod. By and large, the U.S. comic just had him more purple with the G2 logo but the UK Comics colored him a bit more detailed with an orange collar and hands. Perfect obscure TFSS or con figure as a companion to recent releases and playing off pent up demand for more Rodimus figures I've seen lately.

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Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682205)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 4th, 2015 @ 12:02pm CDT
RodimusRex wrote:Autoroller Iron Hide,
What do you mean by this? There was no Auto Roller Ironhide, unreleased or otherwise.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682211)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 4th, 2015 @ 12:15pm CDT
RodimusRex wrote:I know the TFSS is doing camo Starscream. What appeals to me about General Prime, Arctic Hound, Autoroller Iron Hide, etc. is that by virtue of being near-unreleased or never released final G2 molds, they represent the "final form" of the original G1 continuity.


The Ironhide you mention was a Power Master, not an Autoroller. He features a pull back motor not unlike the Throttlebots, except it can be locked with the weapons when wound up. Other Power Masters were Meanstreak (dragster), Staxx (long-nose truck) and Bulletbike (motorcycle with side car)

The "final forms" idea is appealing though, and if we're to include Machine Wars, some characters already have them in some shape or form. :)
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682279)
Posted by RodimusRex on May 4th, 2015 @ 4:26pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:Autoroller Iron Hide,
What do you mean by this? There was no Auto Roller Ironhide, unreleased or otherwise.



Sorry. I meant Power Master (also called Powered Master) Ironhide. UK exclusive. From the end of G2. A natural companion to General Optimus Prime in the sense that he's a G2 version of an 84/85 Autobot with a military theme.

There's a general sense at the tail end of G2 that everyone (after getting reformatted as cars for the Go-Bots subline) suddenly got reformatted as military vehicles that looked straight out of G.I.Joe.

General Prime and Sergeant Hound to my knowledge never got released. I saw ATB Megatron and Starscream once at a Kaybee but I gather their national release was canceled. Power Master Iron Hide was UK only.

That may have also been where the Jungle Camo Grimlock and desert camo seeker repaint were being floated as ideas. There's enough "Limited Release/Unreleased" very late era G2 stuff to fill a whole boxed set with iconic characters for a year.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682282)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 4th, 2015 @ 4:41pm CDT
RodimusRex wrote:I saw ATB Megatron and Starscream once at a Kaybee but I gather their national release was canceled.


The black and purple one? Then you must be from Ohio, as that's where their (test-market) release was.

There's a general sense at the tail end of G2 that everyone (after getting reformatted as cars for the Go-Bots subline) suddenly got reformatted as military vehicles that looked straight out of G.I.Joe.


I have noticed that just now, as some Machine Wars releases have that army design going for them. Really odd.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682287)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 4th, 2015 @ 5:11pm CDT
I hope they one day run out of ideas and give us a full line of thoughtfully designed GI Joe crossovers — with MASK sized Joe characters included that could drive the vehicles. If they looked right out of the cartoon for their vehicle modes (HISS tank, rattler, sky striker, etc.) I would eat that up.

We'd buy repaint jets for the seeker jets in blue and black. They could do a Metrotitan Terrordrome. Broadsides aircraft carrier! Rolling Thunder Prime. Repaint second year with snow, night-ops, urban and sand camo sets..

Could be an amazing line... and jump start GI Joe, which seems like it's had a lull the past year or so (?).

Till then...

*rolls around military vehicles from Machine Wars line... while looking out the window longingly*
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682300)
Posted by RodimusRex on May 4th, 2015 @ 6:59pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:I saw ATB Megatron and Starscream once at a Kaybee but I gather their national release was canceled.


The black and purple one? Then you must be from Ohio, as that's where their (test-market) release was.

There's a general sense at the tail end of G2 that everyone (after getting reformatted as cars for the Go-Bots subline) suddenly got reformatted as military vehicles that looked straight out of G.I.Joe.


I have noticed that just now, as some Machine Wars releases have that army design going for them. Really odd.


I actually saw ATB Megs/Starscream to two stores in the 90s. One was Ohio. The other was a Kaybee outlet store in Dalton, Georgia after Beast Wars launched. They tended to get oddities in and had a full display of ATB Megatron/Starscream and a number of the G.I.Joe Manimals. All I can figure is that Hasbro had a warehouse full of these they shipped to obscure Kaybee outlet locations, probably to avoid diluting their brand with produced but canceled products. I figure the idea was you siphon it off at a low price somewhere that's low visibility where people are looking for cheap toys to pacify their kids.

Warwolf warmed the shelf for months.

At the time I had no clue that these were shelves full of unreleased figures. I thought they were weird store exclusives or other toylines Hasbro was repackaging as G.I.Joe since this was around 1997 when they hit. I had no clue at the time they were acting as a clearing house.

My family would go to Dalton once a week and I would stare at that two pack of ATB Megs/Starscream, on the fence about whether to buy it. I never did but it's one of those missed purchases that still kind of stuck with me even during times when I stopped collecting toys. I'm not sure I want to know what they go for now. I think it was $20 and they cleared out the display of them at $15 a piece. There were two left and I stood there staring at it like a gambling addict, resolute not to buy more toys. Finally, I ran down to the bookstore at the other end and spent my money on Star Trek CCG cards instead because my family was waiting on me to finish up shopping and go to dinner. Never saw it again.

But I think I've been slightly obsessed with late G2, especially now that I have internet and saw that some of those figures I saw were rare... and some of the figures I hunted for based on the catalogs were never produced.

I'm onboard for any late run G2 homages Hasbro, Takara, or the Clubs want to produce. It's weird but I think I developed a big connection to stuff like G2, New Adventures He-Man, Ninja Force G.I.Joe... Because it was a time when all these childhood favorites died and it wasn't sure if and when they'd come back. And when they did come back they were rebooted. And even stuff like IDW's G1 comics is pretty heavily reconfigured.

The Japanese continuations I discovered in college and they seem interesting. But General Optimus is really the end of the line for G1 Prime as far as Hasbro goes. Even Masterpiece is nostalgia based. There was no NOSTALGIA with G2. They were doing everything they could to transform and hawk these characters. It was like the opposite of nostalgia. It was this desperate attempt to be relevant, making Autobots who looked like energy drinks and turning Flint and Baroness into ninjas. I don't think anyone would LET YOU do that now.

So with General Prime being about as "far out" as Optimus Prime can get, I'm absolutely on board for an homage.
Re: Potential BotCon 2015 Roadbuster In G2 General Optimus Deco (1682328)
Posted by It Is Him on May 4th, 2015 @ 9:41pm CDT
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm pretty jazzed about this set.

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