Possible unobscured shot of upcoming SS86 Arcee

Gotta love that reddit username too.

Reddit is really good to find spoilers and new releases too.

Not to mention that SS Sludge has been picked up in Hong Kong. Ill look for the guy that posted the pix and see if I can screencap it.

Also from Reddit. It appears that SS Sludge has been released in Hong Kong
Ill splice the conversation I had with one of the posters and post that as well

Dont know if this came from the store or the factory but.. Two different users as well.

If he's from Hong Kong, then probably a store. Southeast asian countries are the first ones to get new toys. I remember they got the first 2020 wave of Studio Series figures months in advance.

Rtron wrote:If he's from Hong Kong, then probably a store. Southeast asian countries are the first ones to get new toys. I remember they got the first 2020 wave of Studio Series figures months in advance.

Thought so, and there are two different people posting them.

UPDATED!!!!

From

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810171959/

The waist is a bit blocky but I can live with this...

Surprised they never changed the hands

ZeroWolf wrote:Surprised they never changed the hands

What hands does this one use? the third version 5mm ones?

*EDIT*
Ok that is odd, in one photo the hand looks rounder, in another it looks like the open 2nd US version

Cyber Bishop wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Surprised they never changed the hands

What hands does this one use? the third version 5mm ones?

They're the open grip hands aren't they? Reviews I've read on the base Arcee T30 figure said they were only practical for her weapons.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Surprised they never changed the hands

What hands does this one use? the third version 5mm ones?

They're the open grip hands aren't they? Reviews I've read on the base Arcee T30 figure said they were only practical for her weapons.

I was told there were 3 versions of the hands, closed, the opened ones and ones designed to hold a 5mm weapon.



I tried to get a comparison of the pix vs the actual original toy. The thumb on the new one looks to poke out a bit more in this pix.

Bumblebee too

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810210122/

Interesting, thats good to see mind

Next...
Properly transformed.

For reference, here's Arcee's cartoon model:

Can someone help me out and post all the hasbro arcees for me starting from the 2014 thrilling 30? There's been so many I can't keep track. I have the thrill 30 and masterpiece, I just can't remember the rest, was there any in combiner wars/tr/potp or siege/earth/kingdom? Thanx

Cyber Bishop wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Surprised they never changed the hands

What hands does this one use? the third version 5mm ones?

They're the open grip hands aren't they? Reviews I've read on the base Arcee T30 figure said they were only practical for her weapons.

I was told there were 3 versions of the hands, closed, the opened ones and ones designed to hold a 5mm weapon.

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I tried to get a comparison of the pix vs the actual original toy. The thumb on the new one looks to poke out a bit more in this pix.

I heard Springer preffers the Closed Hands version

william-james88 wrote:I heard Springer preffers the Closed Hands version

Oh dear...

I have been looking at a couple of the newer pix next to the T30 Arcee toy and my speculation is that she transforms identically to the T30 version with her calves pegging right next to the front tire, and the back portion folding out accordingly.

This peg right here (for those that do not have this version.

I’m super impressed with this, they actually remolded everything in alt mode - down to the tires, double exhaust pipes, side vents, and the Autobot logos!

The new chest piece in bot mode looks great too!

I know T30 keeps coming up in conversation, about Arcee but what about the Legends version? I know it was basically the same with (arguably) better paint apps, but Im guessing SS86 will have an all new deco altogether, so it doesn't matter much.

Still, I know until late in TR (Trypticon most obviously) there were varying range of differences between Hasbro and TT product. Is there anything specific to Legends Arcee someone would want to see in SS86 as opposed to being lifted from T30?

Speaking of which... despite being almost a decade old, you can still get T30 Arcee at BBTS. Until recently she was at the bargain bin price of $11. They must finally be dwindling in supply, because her price went up to $25. Chromia is still available also for $20. The last 2 still available toys from that line.

Is it truly the T30 mold? I could believe it's simply retooled to have all the new fixin's of current figures, but it looks like it's simply reusing engineering to me.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

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I’m super impressed with this, they actually remolded everything in alt mode - down to the tires, double exhaust pipes, side vents, and the Autobot logos!

The new chest piece in bot mode looks great too!

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810210122/

Really nice pix of him there.

SpaceEagle wrote:Is it truly the T30 mold? I could believe it's simply retooled to have all the new fixin's of current figures, but it looks like it's simply reusing engineering to me.

Looks retooled, parts of TT30/Takara Tomy, parts of earthrise and some new added bits.

SpaceEagle wrote:Is it truly the T30 mold? I could believe it's simply retooled to have all the new fixin's of current figures, but it looks like it's simply reusing engineering to me.

Looks retooled, parts of TT30/Takara Tomy, parts of earthrise and some new added bits.[/quote]

Fair enough! I honestly didn't really want T30 Arcee as it was and I didn't like that the WFC Arcee was a total shellformer...this one at least seems to be the better of the two.

o.supreme wrote:I know T30 keeps coming up in conversation, about Arcee but what about the Legends version? I know it was basically the same with (arguably) better paint apps, but Im guessing SS86 will have an all new deco altogether, so it doesn't matter much.

Still, I know until late in TR (Trypticon most obviously) there were varying range of differences between Hasbro and TT product. Is there anything specific to Legends Arcee someone would want to see in SS86 as opposed to being lifted from T30?

Speaking of which... despite being almost a decade old, you can still get T30 Arcee at BBTS. Until recently she was at the bargain bin price of $11. They must finally be dwindling in supply, because her price went up to $25. Chromia is still available also for $20. The last 2 still available toys from that line.

That's cause BBTS did the same thing they did with Battle Unicorn two decades ago. Hasbro made a second run of that wave but BBTS was the main purchaser, so they had all the stock.

Legends Arcee had the better paint apps, they looks exactly like the show. Would have been nice is SS86 version would have taken note, but they didn't, giving it a more bland deco. So, in the end, the Legends Arcee is still the most accurate, paint apps wise.

I wish I had picked up Takara/Tomy legends Arcee..

In the thumbnail we have a shot that aims to answer the most pressing question from these new reveals: what exactly is this SS86 Arcee? Well, it is a new toy which has half the tooling of the thrilling 30 release (the upper half) and new tooling for the lower half. So we have a flatter, more toon accurate, stomach instead of the prominant womb outline the T30 release had. You can see comparison with the Takara version of the T30 mold below (the new one is the one with less accurate paint apps). It has a lot more car shell than the T30 version, covering the side of the car, like the Earthrise version. This is integrated into the backpack. Of course, this has already spawned comments claiming the backpack is too big, and from there you can see how Hasbro thought giving us a removeable part of the backpack with the Earthrise toy would have been a good idea. Well at least now G1 fans have lots of options when it comes to arcee. For a smaller back pack with partsforming but a more accurate car mode, you have the Earthrise toy. For a smaller backpack with no partsforming but a less accurate car mode, you have the T30 toy. And for a more accurate car mode and no partsforming backpack, you have this toy which does have a larger backpack. What options works best for you?

Along with arcee we have reveals for the DOTM Bumblebee, which is a slight remold of the ROTF Bumblebee, and ROTF Sideways which is a new mold.

Man that new backpack is definitely longer.. I'll still nab her on sight.

For reference, here's Arcee's cartoon model:

think i'd be tempted to buy one of the £8 shelf warming Earthrise Arcees over a £22 SS86 deluxe. They could have at least upgraded it like the oversized KO did.

Legends Arcee is still the best Arcee to me. While I totally get how this new one and the earthrise one are more accurate in alt mode, I always loved the attempt at Takara to offer more vehicle integration, which homaged the original design/conception of the character. She is more of a legit transformer toy to me rather than a shell former. Not knocking anything, just saying my preference.

Oh huh, that Arcee actually looks a lot better than I thought...
I'm not the biggest fan of that plank of a backpack...but no partsforming of the Earthrise version...and a way better body than the T30 version...I think I might actually pick this Arcee up!

Also wow that Sideways looks really good. Especially properly transformed. I am definitely picking this guy up too.

(The BB looks good too.)

william-james88 wrote:Legends Arcee is still the best Arcee to me. While I totally get how this new one and the earthrise one are more accurate in alt mode, I always loved the attempt at Takara to offer more vehicle integration, which homaged the original design/conception of the character. She is more of a legit transformer toy to me rather than a shell former. Not knocking anything, just saying my preference.

So jelly..

I'm glad to see they are going to paint Arcee's face and lips in this version. Her face in Earthrise was just kind of blah and boring.

Okay so I wasn't seeing things last night a 1am when looking at the silhouette. That is indeed a new lower torso with a trapezoid in the middle with new hips and thighs. Then they also redid the lower legs as well to have ankle pivots like I was hoping for. Those still look like the 5mm hand arms from the T30 mold though. So not only will they drop things easily, the hands will also be fragile. Great. Legacy Arcee has closed off 5mm hands so why can't all female Transformers? I hate the open hands they put on several female figures. That doesn't look like a new head though but the paint job on it isn't too bad.

So even despite not having a new fourth set of hands, this new "Frankenstein" Arcee looks like a fun action figure unlike T30 Arcee. Ankle pivots are awesome. The hips look and function like a normal figure. There's a waist swivel. There even appears to be an ab crunch. The backpack is what it is. It looks like the "best" of both T30 and ER Arcee function/look wise.

If this was a straight reissue of either T30 or ER Arcee I would've skipped it. This "Frankenstein" figure interests me though. I still like TR Arcee best so far for a G1ish rep despite not being the most accurate looking. I look forward to seeing if this can beat that figure for me. I also look forward to the 3D printed clavicle flap replacement to accept a Titan Master. I'd look forward to the DNA Designs kit featuring new arms with better hands for her but DNA sucks lately.

I'll always be part of a (probably) small contingency that prefers vehicle integration over screen accuracy. Lady robots don't need shapely legs and tiny feet in my opinion; give me big chunky boots and wheels on the shins any day, or--call me crazy--wheels for feet like the Bayverse triplets. Still, I know that's not what the goal is here, so I think they did a decent job with adjusting the T30 figure to match the cartoon a little more.

I've said it before: there's no way to get Arcee 100% right, so you have to pick your battles one way or the other. In that vein, this is pretty good.

Glarryg

Man that Sideways looks incredibly cool. One of the best looking Bayverse car figures so far. Bee looks like every other movie Bee to me basically. Some of them would be pretty good looking if they just got rid of the wheels behind his shoulders. That always ruins the look of them I think. But I dont collect movie figures, except SS 07' Megatron and Evasion Optimus.

Arcee is a waste. I will still stick to my Legends Arcee. It still has the best/most accurate paint, look, alt mode and thicc hawtness for me. Only thing I didnt like bouts it was the little nub of plastic in her hands that wouldnt let weapons stick out the bottom and I just cut it out.

william-james88 wrote:Legends Arcee is still the best Arcee to me. While I totally get how this new one and the earthrise one are more accurate in alt mode, I always loved the attempt at Takara to offer more vehicle integration, which homaged the original design/conception of the character. She is more of a legit transformer toy to me rather than a shell former. Not knocking anything, just saying my preference.

I’ve been a longtime supporter of Legends Arcee being the best G1 Arcee transforming figure. I am impressed with this new Studio Series 86 version, because all of the new tooling is great, backpack woes aside. All of the right things have been changed for her legs, so the silhouette is better than ever. It’s just a shame they couldn’t give us just a few more paint operations. Really, it’s just the lack of red detail on the belt, gray on the chest/front bumper, and pink hands. I get that budgets are tight, and a lot of new tooling went into this, but they apparently are skipping most of the accessories from the T30/LG version, so I think they could have found the pennies for a few more dabs of paint, especially given that Arcee is still a smaller than average Deluxe Class figure.

I always liked the Thrilling 30 Arcee mould, there are days when I regret selling it on Ebay, so it's nice to see the mould back and with some improvements. Granted, I'm a bit sad that she doesn't have her monster thighs any more, but the vehicle mode is a step-up from the original and I'm happy she has ankle joints. I'll see if I can get this, but I get the feeling she'll sell out fast.
I've never cared that much about Sideways, I'm semi-tempted to get him for my Multiverse display and pretend he's the dimension-hopping Unicron Trilogy Sideways in case we never get one in Legacy, but we'll see. That Bumblebee is surprisingly impressive too, that's one I will try to get, and maybe swap out my First Movie 08 Camaro Bumblebee for it.

Munkky wrote:I always liked the Thrilling 30 Arcee mould, there are days when I regret selling it on Ebay, so it's nice to see the mould back and with some improvements. Granted, I'm a bit sad that she doesn't have her monster thighs any more, but the vehicle mode is a step-up from the original and I'm happy she has ankle joints. I'll see if I can get this, but I get the feeling she'll sell out fast.
I've never cared that much about Sideways, I'm semi-tempted to get him for my Multiverse display and pretend he's the dimension-hopping Unicron Trilogy Sideways in case we never get one in Legacy, but we'll see. That Bumblebee is surprisingly impressive too, that's one I will try to get, and maybe swap out my First Movie 08 Camaro Bumblebee for it.

I still have my t30 Arcee from the movie anniversary boxed set, which is similar to the release. In a way, it makes sense for them to return to it. the MP arcee is essentially an upscaled more involved version. Even the popular over-sexualized third party Nicee on is based off it's design.

Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years? Is she one that needs to constantly be out on shelves year after year despite having a previous version still readily available? This will make three Arcee figures available at the exact same time since ER and Kingdom still have stock at several online shops.

I like Arcee but that's overkill IMO meanwhile where is a Sunstreaker reissue instead of swimming in Arcee figures? That said the figure does look nice and a bit sleeker than ER/Kingdom but I already have ER version so I'm sticking with that.

I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think they should've done a new mold or just released the Earthrise version with some better paint. Yes, the Earthrise version has a bland transformation. Yes, the backpack is an abomination, but that can be removed and you have a very, VERY, accurate robot mode. If I remember correctly the T30 version required the black gun to hold the arms in place, had just as big of a shell, and the hands were prone to breaking due to the thinness of the plastic in them. I'll wait to get this in hand since lately in hand has been WAY better than pictures but I'm not holding out hope.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years?

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This is the 4th deluxe G1 styled Arcee released in a Generations line sporting a "distinct" mold.

We had one in Thrilling 30, Titans Return, Earthrise (Kingdom rerelease) and now SS86.

But I like it, it means Hasbro sees Arcee as one of the main characters of the franchise now, always wanting one on the shelves be it either G1 or some other version (like Cyberverse or Prime).

Arcee is one of the stars of ROTB so Hasbro wants to hunker down on that name recognition

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think they should've done a new mold or just released the Earthrise version with some better paint. Yes, the Earthrise version has a bland transformation. Yes, the backpack is an abomination, but that can be removed and you have a very, VERY, accurate robot mode. If I remember correctly the T30 version required the black gun to hold the arms in place, had just as big of a shell, and the hands were prone to breaking due to the thinness of the plastic in them. I'll wait to get this in hand since lately in hand has been WAY better than pictures but I'm not holding out hope.

Never had any of those issues with my T30 Arcee especially the black gun holding the arms in place. I am sure a few did but they are in the minority.

And the surprises keep coming.

Bee looks great. They handled the chest detailing a bit differently than I thought they would, but it works. The deco is also really good overall, especially all the paint in alt mode, which just makes the RotF version's deco look that much worse. My only meaningful gripe is that they reused the clunker Bee head, but at least they didn't paint his face bright silver this time. I might have to pick this guy up.

Glarryg wrote:I'll always be part of a (probably) small contingency that prefers vehicle integration over screen accuracy. Lady robots don't need shapely legs and tiny feet in my opinion; give me big chunky boots and wheels on the shins any day, or--call me crazy--wheels for feet like the Bayverse triplets. Still, I know that's not what the goal is here, so I think they did a decent job with adjusting the T30 figure to match the cartoon a little more.

I've said it before: there's no way to get Arcee 100% right, so you have to pick your battles one way or the other. In that vein, this is pretty good.

Glarryg

100% agree. I think this is about the best G1 Arcee that could realistically be made, and now it's time to let this design die and completely move on. An Arcee retool of Legacy Elita-1/Minerva would be great.

(From Top to bottom: - Studio Series, Earthrise and Takara Legends)

Till-all-R1 wrote:Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years? Is she one that needs to constantly be out on shelves year after year despite having a previous version still readily available?

Are you at all familiar with the names Optimus Prime and Megatron?

Cyber Bishop wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think they should've done a new mold or just released the Earthrise version with some better paint. Yes, the Earthrise version has a bland transformation. Yes, the backpack is an abomination, but that can be removed and you have a very, VERY, accurate robot mode. If I remember correctly the T30 version required the black gun to hold the arms in place, had just as big of a shell, and the hands were prone to breaking due to the thinness of the plastic in them. I'll wait to get this in hand since lately in hand has been WAY better than pictures but I'm not holding out hope.

Never had any of those issues with my T30 Arcee especially the black gun holding the arms in place. I am sure a few did but they are in the minority.

I don't think the gun part was shown in the instructions but many missed it. The arms tab into the side then it pegs into the chest/stomach area. Helps lock everything down.

So DOTM Bumblebee is my favorite version of movie Bee, who (as you all can probably guess) is my favorite Transformer! I've been really anticipating Studio Series' take on the design (thus my mold change breakdown I made a little while ago), and now it's finally been revealed!

And I am absolutely going to geek out about it!

Let's start off in alt mode because this completely blew me away:

They remolded every single tiny difference on the DOTM Camaro! The grill, hood, and spoiler are the big things I was hoping they would get, but even when I made the breakdown I wasn't expecting to see the tiny Autobot badges, the side vents, the tires, and even the doubled up exhaust pipes remolded! That last one in particular is really cool to me, since I didn't notice the dual exhaust pipes until I played the DOTM video game. By the way, the antennae on the back of the roof that's been around since SS-49 is finally accurate to this version of the Camaro!

To show how much was remolded, everything in green is new:


I don't take the paint into consideration too much with figures since I'll be painting it myself, but I am very glad that he has a cohesive grill all the way across, unlike the ROTF version. The gunmetal paint on the tires is accurate, by the way! I always thought it was gloss black but after seeing more pics of the actual Camaro today, it is gunmetal! The stripes are missing on the back of alt mode (as they were on the original DOTM deluxe), but that's an easy fix, especially because there's no pinstriping. A small additional note, you can see in bot mode that they painted the exhaust pipe area on the back of the Camaro in black, the first time that's been done with the mold.


Moving onto bot mode, it doesn't have the extent of remolding that alt mode does, but I'm happy with what they did do:

The central chest piece has been remolded to show some of the new chest details (which I was concerned may not happen because most promo renders of Bee from DOTM still have the ROTF chest). Now, on the CG model Bee's changes to bot mode include the abdomen as well, which doesn't appear to be changed from the ROTF version. Given that the abdomen panel has to be completely flat in order to stow in alt mode, I can see how this would have been very difficult to implement, and the chest piece does include some of that detailing, so overall I'm happy with it.

There are a few other small things missing: the collar pieces are different for the DOTM model (which is something I might be able to approximate with paint), and something I missed that someone else pointed out: there are new yellow details on his shoulders for the DOTM version which do not appear here. The secondary wings are formed by the spoiler in DOTM, but there is no way to achieve this with the real parts with this mold, and the use of faux parts would require altering transformation and allocating that kibble elsewhere, so I'm totally ok that they didn't do that.

Overall for bot mode, it's not perfectly accurate in the way that alt mode is, but I think they definitely accomplished what they needed to with that new chest piece. The picture below shows the updated bot mode parts in green, and the areas that are different on the the DOTM model but were not updated on the figure in red:


I was initially disappointed with the head sculpt, but someone pointed out that it is in fact slightly retooled (note the cheek area). Another interesting thing to keep an eye out for is the three arrow marks on the top of the helmet - they were included on the TLK deluxe based on concept art (though not in the final film), and have persisted to Clunker Bee, and they may have removed them with this release. I would've preferred a new sculpt similar to WWII Bee, but the slight update is appreciated and I can always swap in the battle mask head.
TLK:
SS DOTM:

A couple notes on paint:
- The foream shields have both silver and gunmetal accents on them, a first for this mold (the black details on the edges are absent, but no DOTM/TLK Bee has ever included them, it's an easy fix)
- They FINALLY didn't paint the top of the door windows yellow! I don't know why they ever did that with SS-49/74, I've had to scrape yellow paint off the top of the windows 3 times now!

Finally, I really want to ask Sam Smith about the shade of yellow plastic used - the lighting plays a part in it, but it looks closer to SS-49's bright yellow than SS-74's more accurate orange-yellow. We'll have to see!

In total, they definitely did more retooling with this figure than I was expecting. Alt mode, like I said earlier, is perfect, and bot mode I think accomplishes what it needs to. I'm super happy with it and can't wait to get it in-hand and painted up!

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:Oy vey, yet another Arcee so soon I mean how many is that within just the last few years? Is she one that needs to constantly be out on shelves year after year despite having a previous version still readily available?

Are you at all familiar with the names Optimus Prime and Megatron?

Yeah but how long did we have to wait for the very first Arcee, and then how often was she released until recent years when she became more prominent?

Heck for a lot of years people didn't even know who she was and would ask "who?" whenever I mentioned her.
And lets be honestly real, she's not OP, Megs or BB to a great many people.