Possible Breakdown of all Waves in Transformers WFC Kingdom Line

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:But infos like yours and the ones below summarized as a little intermediate summary/preliminary result would be worthy of a news post on the main page (to me at least). Just to keep the type of fans, who are not constantly watching every possible forum for tidbits of news, up to date.

The thing is, news can only be news'd if it's from an official source. As reliable as these leakers have been, they are not official and actually go against Hasbro's wishes by giving away info that Hasbro doesn't want out yet until they themselves announce it.

william-james88 wrote:The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

bacem wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

I've heard the rodimus rumor several times by now, but until i saw official image or official announcement by hasbro, i still gonna wait n see, because i still cannot imagine how many accsessories did they have to include to make him believable on a commander class range, considering the robot itself is just voyager sized, which means even with inclusion of trailer and several accessories, it will still only puts him on leader class range, at most.

As for selects, i can already see what mold everyone will be based of, except transmutate. I imagine she will be fembot, but can't figure out which fembot mold will be used yet.

o.supreme wrote:I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false.
There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:[...]; it's not the best looking on its own, but it at least doesn't blatantly look like literally half of a vehicle.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

bacem wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

I've heard the rodimus rumor several times by now, but until i saw official image or official announcement by hasbro, i still gonna wait n see, because i still cannot imagine how many accsessories did they have to include to make him believable on a commander class range, considering the robot itself is just voyager sized, which means even with inclusion of trailer and several accessories, it will still only puts him on leader class range, at most.

As for selects, i can already see what mold everyone will be based of, except transmutate. I imagine she will be fembot, but can't figure out which fembot mold will be used yet.

It was said that she uses one of the skeleton dino molds I believe

Lucky Logician wrote:I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

Lucky Logician wrote:I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

Pax XilThalon wrote:Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

shadowapook wrote:Kinna bummed there doesnt appear to be a Road Rage retool of Tracks.

Pax XilThalon wrote:Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

Lucky Logician wrote:I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

o.supreme wrote:I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I can't wait for the day that Micromasters or Core Class are sold as Commander Figures.

o.supreme wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I can't wait for the day that Micromasters or Core Class are sold as Commander Figures.

Coming in 2022 Commander Class Erector! A Micromaster with 15 accessories ( that also happen to be Micromasters)

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Pax XilThalon wrote:Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

Lucky Logician wrote:I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

I know it wasn't posted here, but we've known for some time thanks to the leakers over on TFW that Gears and Polar Claw were originally planned to be in the line, but got bumped.

Lucky Logician wrote:I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

Bounti76 wrote:Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

Bounti76 wrote:Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

Bounti76 wrote:Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

Autobot N wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

Pteranodon Fossilizer

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I can't wait for the day that Micromasters or Core Class are sold as Commander Figures.

Coming in 2022 Commander Class Erector! A Micromaster with 15 accessories ( that also happen to be Micromasters)

He also turns into a beaver and combines with the Constructicons to form "the pants".

Emerje wrote:Rumors say Road Rage and Loud Pedal are coming as exclusives.

Emerje

RLTW-N64-3D wrote:Whether this is legit or not, I feel the lack of Tarantulas is a bit odd. Maybe he'll show sooner or later and they're just putting more emphasis on Blackarachnia for now, who knows.

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm just gonna put it out there, I'm glad we don't, I'm over it with these **** leakers, I've had all of earthrise ruined up front for me, and now most of next years figures have so much as video reviews already? screw them, they've taken as much joy out of this hobby as any random pack of scalper scumbags

While I enjoy a good surprise every now and then (and we still get them from exclusives) I can honestly say that a leak has never even a little bit hurt my enjoyment of collecting. I don't think they're providing some sort of service to fans or anything, but I'm not going to condone them either.

Scalpers can go straight to hell.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

RLTW-N64-3D wrote:Whether this is legit or not, I feel the lack of Tarantulas is a bit odd. Maybe he'll show sooner or later and they're just putting more emphasis on Blackarachnia for now, who knows.

We saw the whole line in the official poster and the proposed line in the original art for the pitch. Tarantulus is in neither of those. He was never part of the line up. Same with Terrorsaur.

bacem wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

RLTW-N64-3D wrote:Whether this is legit or not, I feel the lack of Tarantulas is a bit odd. Maybe he'll show sooner or later and they're just putting more emphasis on Blackarachnia for now, who knows.

We saw the whole line in the official poster and the proposed line in the original art for the pitch. Tarantulus is in neither of those. He was never part of the line up. Same with Terrorsaur.

I heard on tfw2005 forum, tarantula is planned to be some sort of selects, being a retool of blackarachnia, but with more toy head. That is why most stolen figure we saw of her on youtube suspiciously came with alternate face, while the official does not. The "alternate face" we saw on those reviews are the face planned to be used for tarantula. Don't count me too much on this info tho.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I have mixed feelings about the Commander Class Rodimus Prime rumor.
On the one hand, there are other characters I think could use the Commander size more, like Overlord and Ultra Magnus (the latter because there is no chance in hell a post-DOTM Leader can hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Roddy's camper shell battle platform is light enough that they might have been able to get away with making him a Leader, especially with a true-to-G1 cab robot.

But at the same time, they might not have. SIEGE Magnus' inner robot is only Voyager-height by WFC standards. And Shockwave and Astrotrain are similarly-short. WFC Voyagers come up a bit short compared to, say, Prime Wars voyagers (it's why I prefer CW Optimus to either SIEGE or ER).
And the thing about Rodimus Prime is that he needs to be on par with Galvatron height-wise. Since Galvy is a Leader, he's probably going to be as tall as the TR version if not taller. So Rodimus might need the extra mass to match.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I have mixed feelings about the Commander Class Rodimus Prime rumor.
On the one hand, there are other characters I think could use the Commander size more, like Overlord and Ultra Magnus (the latter because there is no chance in hell a post-DOTM Leader can hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Roddy's camper shell battle platform is light enough that they might have been able to get away with making him a Leader, especially with a true-to-G1 cab robot.

But at the same time, they might not have. SIEGE Magnus' inner robot is only Voyager-height by WFC standards. And Shockwave and Astrotrain are similarly-short. WFC Voyagers come up a bit short compared to, say, Prime Wars voyagers (it's why I prefer CW Optimus to either SIEGE or ER).
And the thing about Rodimus Prime is that he needs to be on par with Galvatron height-wise. Since Galvy is a Leader, he's probably going to be as tall as the TR version if not taller. So Rodimus might need the extra mass to match.

Quoting this to add a visual comparison:

bacem wrote:I could see a heavy retool of TR galvatron works as kingdom galvatron, as the mold itself isn't that bad. However, they gonna need the following change:
- replace the headmaster gimmick with normal head, with actual galvatron helmet.
- remove the jet nosecone. The jet mode is unneeded, and doesn't look that convincing anyway.
- move the cannon attachment to the side of the arm, not on top of it.
- arm panel, to cover the gap from the room the fist left.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

bacem wrote:I could see a heavy retool of TR galvatron works as kingdom galvatron, as the mold itself isn't that bad. However, they gonna need the following change:
- replace the headmaster gimmick with normal head, with actual galvatron helmet.
- remove the jet nosecone. The jet mode is unneeded, and doesn't look that convincing anyway.
- move the cannon attachment to the side of the arm, not on top of it.
- arm panel, to cover the gap from the room the fist left.

it's gonna be a completely new mold

bacem wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

bacem wrote:I could see a heavy retool of TR galvatron works as kingdom galvatron, as the mold itself isn't that bad. However, they gonna need the following change:
- replace the headmaster gimmick with normal head, with actual galvatron helmet.
- remove the jet nosecone. The jet mode is unneeded, and doesn't look that convincing anyway.
- move the cannon attachment to the side of the arm, not on top of it.
- arm panel, to cover the gap from the room the fist left.

it's gonna be a completely new mold

That would be ideal. But then again, i believe they also called siege chromia as a "completely new mold", before the actual pics appeared.

sol magnus wrote:And with armor, they're just about the same size. I like my Titans Return Galvatron (one of the few TR guys I own). If Galvatron is superior in Kingdom, I'll pony up - but for now I'm good with the one I have.

bacem wrote:I could see a heavy retool of TR galvatron works as kingdom galvatron, as the mold itself isn't that bad. However, they gonna need the following change:
- replace the headmaster gimmick with normal head, with actual galvatron helmet.
- remove the jet nosecone. The jet mode is unneeded, and doesn't look that convincing anyway.

bacem wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

bacem wrote:I could see a heavy retool of TR galvatron works as kingdom galvatron, as the mold itself isn't that bad. However, they gonna need the following change:
- replace the headmaster gimmick with normal head, with actual galvatron helmet.
- remove the jet nosecone. The jet mode is unneeded, and doesn't look that convincing anyway.
- move the cannon attachment to the side of the arm, not on top of it.
- arm panel, to cover the gap from the room the fist left.

it's gonna be a completely new mold

That would be ideal. But then again, i believe they also called siege chromia as a "completely new mold", before the actual pics appeared.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

sol magnus wrote:And with armor, they're just about the same size. I like my Titans Return Galvatron (one of the few TR guys I own). If Galvatron is superior in Kingdom, I'll pony up - but for now I'm good with the one I have.

I'm also fine with TR Galvatron.
My point is that Kingdom Galvy - who Rodimus Prime will have to be on part with height-wise - is going to be as big as TR Galvy or bigger, and trying to get a WFC Leader's Voyager-ish robot to match that height would be a stretch.

Nemesis Primal wrote:...his legs ARE orange like the toy AND it doesn't look bad, interesting.

Dinobot Inferno unboxed.png

Magnus unboxed.jpg

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...What are those two little discs among Inferno's accessories supposed to be?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...What are those two little discs among Inferno's accessories supposed to be?

I think they're supposed to be the coiled-up fire hoses he originally had on his legs.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

sol magnus wrote:And with armor, they're just about the same size. I like my Titans Return Galvatron (one of the few TR guys I own). If Galvatron is superior in Kingdom, I'll pony up - but for now I'm good with the one I have.

I'm also fine with TR Galvatron.
My point is that Kingdom Galvy - who Rodimus Prime will have to be on part with height-wise - is going to be as big as TR Galvy or bigger, and trying to get a WFC Leader's Voyager-ish robot to match that height would be a stretch.

bacem wrote:I could see a heavy retool of TR galvatron works as kingdom galvatron, as the mold itself isn't that bad. However, they gonna need the following change:
- replace the headmaster gimmick with normal head, with actual galvatron helmet.
- remove the jet nosecone. The jet mode is unneeded, and doesn't look that convincing anyway.

I'm going to stop you right there, because you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Removing Galvatron's back spar would make him LESS accurate.





The back spar has been part of his design from the start, both toy and cartoon. It's the rear support of his cannon mode (so right there removing it is a problem), it was the handle of his used-once-in-a-comic-but-only-to-smuggle-him original third mode, and it is prominently visible on his back whenever you see him from behind in the cartoon. It. Has. Always. Been. There. Titans Return merely repurposed it. Whichever smeghead reviewer decried it as something the TR toy added needs to have a collage of screenshots of every time Galvatron is seen from behind stapled to their face.