Possibe Price and Release Date Revealed for Transformers Masterpiece MP-44 Optimus Prime Ver 3.0
Tuesday, November 27th, 2018 10:53AM CST
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A listing from Action Robo on Facebook has a simple set of details but they are all crucial, here is what is stated:
MP-44 Optimus Prime ver. 3.0
Late August 2019
50,000 Yen
Firstly, we now know the numbering of the figure, MP-44, and that it will be coming out in august next year. Also, while the 50,000 price point (seems high, it fits in line with the increase in prices in the MP line. We had a similar reaction when MP-41 Dinobot was revealed to be 28,000 Yen. MP Beast Wars Megatron was revealed to be even more expensive than that, and with Optimus Prime coming with a massive trailer, this is the around the price point we were gearing up to get. Of course, this is the MSRP and while domestic importers may stick with this price, the figure may be up to 30% cheaper if you deal with the importing yourself.
Just to give an idea of the current exchange rate, 50,000 Yen is equivalent to:
$440 USD
$585 CAD
$610 AUD
390 Euros
345 Pounds
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Posted by starfish on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:05am CST
Posted by Glarryg on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:05am CST
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Posted by Nathaniel Prime on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:11am CST
Posted by Big Grim on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:11am CST
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:12am CST
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Wow, this must have been a huge story on facebook with so many people submitting news here about it. Anyway, the figure looks nice, but I can barely afford a 60$ Masterpiece figure let alone a 440$ one so this is a pass for me
Yeeeeeahhh... I'm gonna wait for one from Maketoys most likely. Their Despotron looks amazing, and it's only like 130 bucks. Seriously, you're paying way less for a Megatron way less likely to drive you absolutely insane. Plus I prefer more bulky characters anyway for the leaders, so Despotron's "thickboi" legs actually look awesome to me, regardless of how many people go full super saiyan crybaby over it. But.. 440 FUCKING DOLLARS for an MP OPTIMUS at BASE LEVEL? WHY??? Takara, these are not Prime One Studios FUCKING STATUES!!! THEY'RE MPS!!!! FUCKING STOP!!!! *breathes* I thought Sunstreaker's steep price was crazy, but ohohoh boy.. I didn't know nothing yet. This frankly makes me wanna support 3rd Party companies almost outta spite. Maybe I'll just take my Siege and 3rd Party MPs and be happy with that. Dunno if I'll ever get official MPs at this point.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:18am CST
SillyMcGilly wrote:Why is TFP Optimus in the thumbnail?
He's as shocked about the price as we are
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:21am CST
Nathaniel Prime wrote:SillyMcGilly wrote:Why is TFP Optimus in the thumbnail?
He's as shocked about the price as we are
I only realized how steep it was after writing that post, so I edited in a ton of angry words about it.
Seriously, I'm legitimately angry right now. At this point I've become jaded towards Takara's MPs to the point of forsaking my integrity to get KOs instead. I was like the biggest preacher against KOs, but their choices have driven ME to want and consider buying KOs. Kill me now.
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:39am CST
Posted by no-one on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:47am CST
william-james88 wrote:MP-44 Optimus Prime ver. 3.0
Late August 2019
50,000 Yen
Well that's an appropriate face.
yupIronhidensh wrote:Well, Takasa Tony is going to do amazing business off of this one.
Posted by Deadput on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:51am CST
When buying things I try to think of not only about if I want it but also how much time I'll get out of it compared to the price.
So a few hundred dollars for something I'll probably only fiddle with for a couple days tops (not literal days but the actual amount of time I'm interacting with it) is probably not worth it.
Posted by ScottyP on November 27th, 2018 @ 12:12pm CST
Now this being said, the exchange rate will almost definitely swing a good bit between now and next August. Hopefully it does so in a beneficial direction.
Posted by whacko on November 27th, 2018 @ 12:20pm CST
Takara's quality control lately hasn't been high enough to justify their increasing price tags for these figures. The trailer, which is likely to be mostly a hollow box doesn't justify a $100 premium over MP Beastwars Megatron. The fact that it is "official" has always been a huge selling point, but with 3rd party companies producing figures of comparable or better quality and design for half the price or less.. I wonder if 1st party toys are starting to become irrelevant at least for the high-end collector market. It isn't as if Takara is releasing toys based on NEW character designs, and 3rd party toy companies have shown they can do a lot of great things with the G1 character designs.
Posted by Terrsolpix on November 27th, 2018 @ 12:24pm CST
Posted by mesh on November 27th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CST
I'm lost for words.
If a third party group can produce a phenomenal g1 representation for just a little over $110 CAD HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY $585CAD????????
FOR THAT PRICE I SHOULD BUY ZETA TOYS BRUTICUS!
I have been extremely loyal to Takara Tomy since the 80's. I have to look at the overall expenses now as that amount of money is equivalent to typical monthly payment on a Subaru STi.
I think I've met my match and will focus on third party from now on. Or better still, I'm happy with my version of MP-10.
This has gotta be a typo $585 CAD???????
Posted by MCutter on November 27th, 2018 @ 1:03pm CST
That nonsense price can take right off.
Posted by Cobotron on November 27th, 2018 @ 1:41pm CST
OPTIMUS PRICE!
Posted by mordhelm on November 27th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CST
Posted by TRNSFRMNDRLLT on November 27th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
It makes sense because bigger figures mean they can price them all this high going forward. And they can attempt to undercut the entire third party MP Scale industry.
But this only works if we buy into this BS. If they don’t sell well they’ll be forced to stick to the current MP Scale. And with the way Takara’s QC is now and how they offer absolutely no recourse to fix their bad QC on their MP line (save for the distributor accepting a return and I’ve already completely cut out one major online seller because their standard is much less than mine and they don’t accept returns unless there’s a ton of QC issues. A big paint chip? Sorry, you’re out of luck. “You’re a serious collector, we get that” my butt).
If Takara actually took care of us after sale or even if they just upped their QC to acceptable standards for $300-$500 figures then I’d think about biting. But when 3Ps do it better AND make sure you get a good copy (sometimes going above and beyond) you can be sure I for one will be grabbing that pretty 10” Magic Square OP and bollocks to a new MP Scale.
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
mordhelm wrote:Is it possible that something is a bit misinterpreted and that is the price for the case of 2? If you look at the post, it very well could be.
People hoped the same for Dinobot but that turned out to not be true. That is the price per figure, not the price of the case.
MP Beast Wars Megatron is $320 USD https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... on/hse4006
This toy would be $100 more which makes sense if it is the same size as Megatron and comes with a ton of stuff including a trailer. It would not make sense to cost less than MP Megatron.
Anyways, the price on Amazon Japan will be $310 which is less than what the domestic release of MP BW Megatron costs. Obviously we are looking at different markets, but I just wanted to show that the price is not that far off from what we have seen so far and it fits (way more than $220 does).
Posted by YRQRM0 on November 27th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CST
I'll pay anything when those Armada MP figures start coming out though
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 27th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CST
william-james88 wrote:mordhelm wrote:Is it possible that something is a bit misinterpreted and that is the price for the case of 2? If you look at the post, it very well could be.
People hoped the same for Dinobot but that turned out to not be true. That is the price per figure, not the price of the case.
MP Beast Wars Megatron is $320 USD https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... on/hse4006
This toy would be $100 more which makes sense if it is the same size as Megatron and comes with a ton of stuff including a trailer. It would not make sense to cost less than MP Megatron.
Anyways, the price on Amazon Japan will be $310 which is less than what the domestic release of MP BW Megatron costs. Obviously we are looking at different markets, but I just wanted to show that the price is not that far off from what we have seen so far and it fits (way more than $220 does).
To put things into perspective, would it be priced roughly the same as similar items from other companies? NOT talking "Third Party" here, but from high profile direct competitors.
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2018 @ 3:52pm CST
YRQRM0 wrote:Man that is crazy high. I think I reached my price limit with my recent MP Megs purchase, and so far I've no incentive to get this on top of MP-10s..
I'll pay anything when those Armada MP figures start coming out though
By that time, it will probably be $1000 for Demolishor.
Posted by TRNSFRMNDRLLT on November 27th, 2018 @ 4:03pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:mordhelm wrote:Is it possible that something is a bit misinterpreted and that is the price for the case of 2? If you look at the post, it very well could be.
People hoped the same for Dinobot but that turned out to not be true. That is the price per figure, not the price of the case.
MP Beast Wars Megatron is $320 USD https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... on/hse4006
This toy would be $100 more which makes sense if it is the same size as Megatron and comes with a ton of stuff including a trailer. It would not make sense to cost less than MP Megatron.
Anyways, the price on Amazon Japan will be $310 which is less than what the domestic release of MP BW Megatron costs. Obviously we are looking at different markets, but I just wanted to show that the price is not that far off from what we have seen so far and it fits (way more than $220 does).
To put things into perspective, would it be priced roughly the same as similar items from other companies? NOT talking "Third Party" here, but from high profile direct competitors.
Those can be very expensive but the problem there is that Takara is faaaar from justifying that price because their quality is way worse and they don’t offer any after purchase support at all. No one to even email. One could argue that the distributor is responsible for that but we aren’t dealing with normal distributors with these. A lot of them are small companies that are able to operate with just a few employees because of the internet and it’s totally up to their discretion if a figure needs replacing or not. And since TT’s QC is so bad they end up dealing with a ton of exchanges and replacements or they end up refusing your retturn because their idea of “okay” has been vastly expanded in response to the returns from bad TT QC. No one wins here.
Now if Takara’s QC was up to the standards of their competition then yeah, let’s talk about $300-$500 figures just like Hot Toys. But they need to offer the after-sale support that Hot Toys does too as well as vastly improve their initial QC.
Posted by Emerje on November 27th, 2018 @ 6:47pm CST
Emerje
Posted by Burn on November 27th, 2018 @ 7:18pm CST
I hope that it's a one off and they stick with the current trend of figures being between $100AUD - $200AUD, otherwise, I feel I won't be the only one who will find themselves priced out of collecting.
More quantity/lower price over Lower quantity/higher price please.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 27th, 2018 @ 7:20pm CST
...at this price hike, I wonder what an MP Grimlock redo would cost...
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 27th, 2018 @ 8:30pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2018 @ 8:42pm CST
Burn wrote:If this is the path TakaraTomy are taking, by making ultra high end collectibles, then I'm out. There is no way I can justify that sort of money on a figure, no matter how awesome it may be.
I hope that it's a one off and they stick with the current trend of figures being between $100AUD - $200AUD, otherwise, I feel I won't be the only one who will find themselves priced out of collecting.
More quantity/lower price over Lower quantity/higher price please.
I dont think its a one off since Dinobot and the two Megatrons are also above 200 AUD (i think even above 300 AUD)
Posted by daoist on November 27th, 2018 @ 8:57pm CST
Suppose the price is accurate. Suppose he comes with the trailer. And what if he...combined with the trailer into Powermaster Optimus Prime? Still out?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 27th, 2018 @ 9:19pm CST
If he were going to be Powermaster Optimus he would be based on Ginrai's animation model, with the hinged codpiece and the visible tires on his hips and all.
Posted by Burn on November 27th, 2018 @ 9:22pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:If this is the path TakaraTomy are taking, by making ultra high end collectibles, then I'm out. There is no way I can justify that sort of money on a figure, no matter how awesome it may be.
I hope that it's a one off and they stick with the current trend of figures being between $100AUD - $200AUD, otherwise, I feel I won't be the only one who will find themselves priced out of collecting.
More quantity/lower price over Lower quantity/higher price please.
I dont think its a one off since Dinobot and the two Megatrons are also above 200 AUD (i think even above 300 AUD)
Well above 300, I think they came in around 350. As much as I want BW Megatron, I simply do not have the money to drop on just one figure, regardless of how near perfect he is.
daoist wrote:Totally hypothetical question for all the "no way" people:
Suppose the price is accurate. Suppose he comes with the trailer. And what if he...combined with the trailer into Powermaster Optimus Prime? Still out?
That ... is a damn good question, and would have me rethinking my decision to not get him.
I've already got V1 (x2) and V2, so V3 would have to have something incredibly different to get me to drop the money on him, a Powermaster version is damn good incentive.
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 27th, 2018 @ 9:31pm CST
daoist wrote:Totally hypothetical question for all the "no way" people:
Suppose the price is accurate. Suppose he comes with the trailer. And what if he...combined with the trailer into Powermaster Optimus Prime? Still out?
Like Ultra Magnus? Who was less than half the price?
Hell yeah, I'm still out.
Posted by daoist on November 27th, 2018 @ 9:36pm CST
Evidence: The front of the box has hinges on the edges. It doesn't need them for the repair bot gimmick.
Also, and this is less convincing, there appears to be too much junk hanging down under the trailer. From the shadows it appears there's more under there than the outriggers.
So yeah, might not be PMOP. But I think there might be more than meets the eye.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 27th, 2018 @ 10:27pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 27th, 2018 @ 10:30pm CST
daoist wrote:I honestly don't think the trailer does the PMOP thing. But it does look like it does something more than the standard MP-10 stuff.
Evidence: The front of the box has hinges on the edges. It doesn't need them for the repair bot gimmick.
Also, and this is less convincing, there appears to be too much junk hanging down under the trailer. From the shadows it appears there's more under there than the outriggers.
So yeah, might not be PMOP. But I think there might be more than meets the eye.
I disagree.
william-james88 wrote:
Too much light coming through for there to be more than the outriggers. The extra junk is because the outriggers themselves been dolled up to look a bit more like real semi trailer undercarriage stuff. As for the hinged panels on the front and the top, they're not too special. They're not needed for the repair station gimmick, true. But they are needed for this:
They're to enable the function served by the square holes on the original Optimus toy's trailer, without actually leaving constantly-open holes.
Posted by daoist on November 27th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
I mean the hinges at the corners. Like the back doors. Except on the front. They're more visible in the other good trailer pic.
If the trailer has a gimmick where it just opens up flat, that's probably not worth the $150 extra. But maybe there's something there.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 27th, 2018 @ 10:40pm CST
daoist wrote:Nah, I saw those too.
I mean the hinges at the corners. Like the back doors. Except on the front. They're more visible in the other good trailer pic.
If the trailer has a gimmick where it just opens up flat, that's probably not worth the $150 extra. But maybe there's something there.
Oh, these?
I don't think that's a hinge; there's no beveling to allow the parts to turn. I think it's just a seam where the trailer body panels join together.
Posted by daoist on November 27th, 2018 @ 11:45pm CST
Yeah, thanks for finding a better pic.
You may be right. If those are just seams, why the Gap at the top? If they are beveled on the inside they could slide up a little and then flip inwards somehow. Or maybe just slide up? Or maybe those are tab slots for some accessories to fit into?
Posted by Cyberpath on November 28th, 2018 @ 1:09am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 28th, 2018 @ 6:04am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 28th, 2018 @ 6:17am CST
william-james88 wrote:Preorder up at TFSource
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/
450$ USD
Well, next year, this guy should be quite the black friday special item.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 28th, 2018 @ 6:22am CST
william-james88 wrote:Preorder up at TFSource
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/
450$ USD
That... is not okay; seriously, anyone pre-ordering this is basically telling TT this trend is okay
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 28th, 2018 @ 7:50am CST
Posted by Agamemnon on November 28th, 2018 @ 7:55am CST
Yeah, if I ever wanted out of my marriage, I'll just buy this....
Posted by Amelie on November 28th, 2018 @ 8:23am CST
Heck, I could go on holiday. To Italy. For not much more...
Posted by william-james88 on November 28th, 2018 @ 8:44am CST
Loopaza confirmed it in their rundown of upcoming Takara releases in May and August which show which also show which toys from the Siege line will come out in that time. The prices are all MSRP.
We also have domestice preorders up for those who can't wait for this new Prime. Both BBTS and TFSource have this toy priced at $449.99:
BBTS: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/84183
TFSource: https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-44- ... mus-prime/
While the price is the highest we have ever seen, this toy does come with more accessories than all the recently high priced Masterpiece releases, one of which is a trailer.
Aside from the trailer, here is the list of accessories the toy is said to come with according to a post on Weibo. Since this is translated from chinese, there may be some parts lost in translation, the words in parenthese are a possible interpretation.
box, content:
- main body X1 (Optimus Prime)
- compartment X1 (trailer)
- cabin anti-aircraft gun X1
- small ball X1 (Roller)
- energy axe X1
- beam special effects X2
- laser rifle X1
- energy treasure X1 (the matrix)
- energy supply tube X1 (fuel hose for Roller)
- Spike X1
- Carly X1
- Spike Pula X1 (Sparkplug)
- Rocket Backpack X1 (Jet pack)
- Starscream Head X1 (to re-enact when Starscream is dressed up as Prime)
- Starscream Wings Accessories X1 (most probably the shoulder pylons to re-enact when Starscream is dressed up as Prime)
- An Unknown Item X1
- Replacement Head Carving X1 (Different face)
- War Damage Head X1
- Battle Damage Chest Parts X1
- character card X1
Posted by TulioDude on November 28th, 2018 @ 9:15am CST
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 28th, 2018 @ 9:18am CST
Posted by Amelie on November 28th, 2018 @ 9:32am CST
TulioDude wrote:I wonder if the Starscream head is gonna match the previous Masterpiece version of him,or if it will be all new.
I'll hazard a guess that MP-40~something Starscream is around the corner and will feature the same head this Optimus Prime toy does...
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 28th, 2018 @ 9:34am CST
But HOT DAMN that’s some serious dough.