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Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Saturday, November 5th, 2016 2:11PM CDT

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A few days ago we didn't even know the Robots in Disguise Legion Springload and Starscream existed and now we not only have an in depth collection of images of these two but also an accompanying written review. This was done by Fasstrack, a user on the TFW2005 boards, and his entire reviews can be seen and read here below. The reviews cover:

A comparison between Starscream with Windblade so you can judge if one is a remold of the other or if they simply share basic transformation.
A comparison Springload to the Takara version of his one step counterpart.
A picture of the instructions and a detailed account of the transformation.
A size comparison with other legions from this line in both modes.

Enjoy!

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise


Starscream from Wave 1 of the Combiner Force subline imprint of RiD legions

ROBOT MODE

This new legion scaled Starscream does a good job at replicating the shape and detail of his show model.

The large wings and broad shoulders give Starscream a regal and intimidating appearance. Although, he does look a bit skinny

Moulded in silver and light blue plastics. Starscream feature black paint on his helmet, red on the rims of his chest intakes, pelvis, and along his wings, blue paint on the tops of his shoulders, fuselage and his feet and orange plastic on the cockpit
And of course a sticker for the RiD app on his left wing. (Note: combiner force toys aren't unlocked when scanned into the app, instead they give a ticket to use with Cryostase to unlock a random character in the game - I got hammer)
The paint layout and amount of paint apps on such a small figure really help make Starscream look nice and worth the price to purchase.

Poseability

In terms of poseability, we are dealing with a legion class here, so there's not much to speak of. Although Starscream fares better than some others in the line.
Having ball jointed hips, hinged knees hat can bend just short of 90 degrees, multiple hinges in the shoulders (although, most are only really useful for transformation) and similar to Windblade, he has odd ball joints at his elbows. In fact. The lower arms on Starscream are the exact same as windblade!

Speaking of windblade. The two share very similar transformation schemes. And you'd be forgiven for thinking they were just remoulded of each other
However, besides the forearms, they don't appear to share any parts from what I can see.

TRANSFORMATION

To transform Starscream, it's very simple. As is normal for this size class.
1: peg the legs together
2: fold the fuselage/Nosecone on the back up over the head and peg it in place
3: fold the wings down
4: fold the shoulder pads down on the hinges along with the elbow pieces to straighten them down along the sides of the torso
5: peg the hands onto the pegs on the undersides of the wings.

VEHICLE MODE

From above, Starscream's vehicle mode looks quite good. From underneath however, well... It looks like he's reaching down to hold his wings in place.
Another oddity on the underside is that like a few other figures recently, he has a landing gear moulded into the Nosecone but no wheels anywhere else. Instead he rests on his kneecaps and toes

For the size class, I can't complain much about this vehicle mode, yeah it could have been better. But it's fine for what it is.

The paint apps work well to make the vehicle mode look nice
With the red wings, orange cockpit and blue nose cone to break up all the grey a bit.

All in all legion Starscream is just that. A legion Starscream. It's nothing amazing. But it has a few neat things that make it worth a look

FINAL THOUGHTS

Overall I'd rate it a B-
Losing a couple of marks for the awkward elbows, lack of rear wheels and borrowing Windblade's forearms.

If you're interested, its probably worth picking up, it is a cheap figure after all.
Definitely worth grabbing for a completionist
But I wouldn't say it's worth running out to get ASAP


Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise


Springload from Wave 1 of the Combiner Force subline imprint of RiD legions

PRAISE DORADUS!!
The paranoid Amphiboid, Springload has made a handful of appearances in the cartoon over the first two seasons. and his fate was left unclear at the end of season 2 since he was oddly absent from the season finale. a treasure hunter, obsessed with finding the fabled city of Doradus. Springload has a ... loose grip on reality at the best of times. and will attack anyone who gets in the way of his search for the fabled city.

up until now, Springload has only had 1 toy released in the RiD toyline, a One-Step changer from right before the "minicon weaponizer" subline imprint. now it's finally time for a more complex figure.

ROBOT MODE

Springload's body is rather, untraditional, in that he pretty much looks like a mechanical frog. which the designers managed to replicate here remarkably well. whereas the One-Step figure was much flatter and wider, particularly in the head. Legion Springload looks MUCH more faithful to his show mode. even having tiny fake wheels molded onto his shoulder kibble to replicate the placement of his wheels on the show model.

Springload's front legs are long, very long. whilst his back legs are much shorter and are molded in a more frog like posture. like the fake wheels on his shoulders, springload also has fake wheels to act as his back feet to mimic the show model as well. the best part of Springload's Mould is definitely his face, it's shaped very accurately to his show model, with large eyes, angy eyebrows, and lots of pointy teeth in his mouth.

The only downside to Springload's robot mode is that he is VERY hollow underneath. but for a Legion class figure, its understandable and not as big an issue.
another slight downside is that even by legion standards, Springload is tiny. he is really really tiny.

in terms of his Colour scheme, Springload is very eye catching. molded mostly in a bright lime green colour with some black plastic on the wheels at the back of his body.

to compliment this very froggy colour, Springload has some cyan paint on his front legs, and the roof of his vehicle mode, which sits just behind his head in robot mod. his front windscreen, side windows and fake wheels, are all painted black, and his eyebrows are painted dark blue which works GREAT for the eyebrows. especially with the red paint of his eyes. Springload's lower back/ vehicle mode hood is painted a darker shade of green, and finally his teeth on both his top and bottom jaw are painted white.

all in all this is a great colour scheme. although when just taking a quick look at him, the blues and greens all sort of blend into each other.

Springload also of course features a sticker for the RiD app on his back/ car roof (Note: Combiner Force toys aren't unlocked when scanned into the app, instead they give a ticket to use with Cryostase to unlock a random character in the game - I got Anvil)

POSEABILITY

For Poseablility Springload is pretty impressive for a legion. having hinges at his back hips to rotate his back legs forward and backward for jumping poses. Springload's front legs are even more Poseable, being able to rotate at the sides of his torso/vehicle mode and having hinges at the elbows. you can also rotate the side panels of his robot mode with the arms attacked to them out as well. but this is more for transformation. and finally, Springloads lower jaw can open and close for Doradus shouting action!! (sadly no tongue in his mouth, although there is a slight notch moulded into his lower jaw, so perhaps a shapeways tongue may come someday.

TRANSFORMATION

Springload's transformation is simple, but effective.
1: fold his lower jaw back and into the hollow cavity under his body
2: fold the side panels the arms are attacked to around and cover (most of) Springload's face and form the back of his vehicle mode
3: fold the front robot legs up into the underside of the vehicle mode
4: Bring the back legs down slightly
5: grabbing the hips, rotate them out and around so the legs are now on the inside and the real wheels are now revealed and on the outside.
6: fold the back legs up and into the underside of the body.

VEHICLE MODE

Springload's vehicle mode is a triumph, unlike his previous One-Step release, which changed his vehicle mode into some sort of muscle car. this new Legion class Springload manages to give him a Pickup Truck alt-mode closer to his show model.

there are however a few issues with the vehicle mode.
first and formost. Springload's robot mode face is visible in the back up his vehicle mode, in the truck bed. although really, springload being paranoid enough that he needs to be constantly looking behind him while driving sounds like something he would do.

another slight issue is the black hingest under his side windows look a little out of place, similar to the Hasbro version of Warrior Thunderhoof.
and another issue is that the front grill of the vehicle mode is only painted on the very top of it. the rest being unpainted black plastic.

Despite these issues its a charming little vehicle mode that still looks more accurate than the one-step.
He also rolls quite well

FINAL THOUGHTS

Legion Springload is easily the better of the two new moulds released in this wave. and only some of that is my personal bias (Springload is one of my favourite decepticons in RiD2015) he may be really really small. but hes a great little legion figure.

Overal I'd rate him an A-
so close to being the perfect legion Springload and dethroning Fixit as the best legion in this toyline, if it weren't for a few minor issues with his vehicle mode.

Despite that I'd say he is Definitely worth picking up once he hits mass retail. as long as you think you are worthy~


Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise

Transformers News: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise
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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839276)
Posted by Kurona on November 5th, 2016 @ 2:20pm CDT
Yeah looking at it Starscream only seems to share parts and basic engineering with Windblade; much like Highbrow and Scourge. Their thighs and arms are undoubtedly the same pieces but everything else is different.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839324)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 5th, 2016 @ 8:09pm CDT
But Scourge and Highbrow ARE retools. It doesn't appear that Windblade and Starscream are, though.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839325)
Posted by Kurona on November 5th, 2016 @ 8:12pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:But Scourge and Highbrow ARE retools. It doesn't appear that Windblade and Starscream are, though.

Chromedome and Dead End then.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839329)
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2016 @ 8:46pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:But Scourge and Highbrow ARE retools. It doesn't appear that Windblade and Starscream are, though.

But Hasui states in the interview that both were made at the same time:

2 development and at the same time


So the molds were made at the same time too. Its not like they made one mold and then designed another toy based on that mold and made the changes.
Doesnt a retool mean that one has to be based off the other? If you cant tell which is the retool of which then technically none are retools. At least that how I see it.

Anyways, I was looking at the older legions and I forgot how nicely they had painted Megatronus.

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And I will update the article of weaponizers with a suggestion from Kurona.

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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839353)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 6th, 2016 @ 12:14am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Doesnt a retool mean that one has to be based off the other? If you cant tell which is the retool of which then technically none are retools. At least that how I see it.
What about when it's a rare case of two figures that are unquestionably the same mold with different tooling from one another, but in which case both figures came out at the same time (like with G1 Prowl and G1 Bluestreak, or G1 Inferno and G1 Grapple)?
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839362)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 6th, 2016 @ 1:13am CDT
STAAAP posting pictures of Weaponizer Minicons that I cannot find. You are huuuuuuuuuuuuuurting meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

And oh Springload, you adorable little amphibicon
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839386)
Posted by Big Grim on November 6th, 2016 @ 7:09am CST
Never watched the show but I gotta admit, Springload is kinda adorable!
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839513)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 6th, 2016 @ 10:23pm CST
Tiny Springload is a must have - he's so adorable :KREMZEEK:
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839518)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 6th, 2016 @ 10:47pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Tiny Springload is a must have - he's so adorable :KREMZEEK:


If they redeco him in blue, or any other color associated with poison dart frogs, my wife will be all over him. :x
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839528)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 7th, 2016 @ 1:07am CST
I like both Legion toys but I have to say, I kinda find Springload redundant, I think the One-Step was good enough.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839637)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 7th, 2016 @ 5:06pm CST
Fellow Seibertronian ScottyP has sent us word that the 3-step Stealthasaurus Rex Grimlock has been spotted out in the wild in the Walmart located in Cary, North Carolina. Previously, this toy had only been available at Entertainment Earth for all of about a few hours, so this is the first confirmed sighting of the toy in brick and mortar retail, or anywhere else really. The price was given as $19.97. You can check out the image that Scotty provided to us below, and you can start heading out to your local Walmarts and other stores to hunt this guy down.

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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839684)
Posted by PrymeStriker on November 7th, 2016 @ 9:07pm CST
Yep. Real stealthy. No one will ever notice that thing.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839687)
Posted by Kurona on November 7th, 2016 @ 9:10pm CST
It is pretty stealthy, actually. Disguising himself as Bumblebee to trick more parents into getting him for their kids' christmas.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1839787)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 8th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CST
PrymeStriker wrote:Yep. Real stealthy. No one will ever notice that thing.

Notice what thing? And why is there a picture of an empty box?
Jokes aside, I would like it if the green was changed as well. It seems weird with it. Also, I never thought that 'Stealthasaurus Rex' would ever be used as an official name. As a nickname in the show, sure, but and official name? That's interesting. Seriously though, what's with the empty box?
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840077)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 9th, 2016 @ 9:43pm CST
Fellow Seibertronians, Scottimus Prime Toy Hunter Productions was on the hunt at a Target in Commack, within Long Island New York, and found the new 3 Step Drift and Energon Boost Bumblebee. This Drift is unique in that it is the first 3 Step version of the character with his original deco. The first 3 Step figure was the 'Blizzard' themed deco and featured a different head. This Drift has a new head based on the original design of his face. And Bumblebee has blue highlights... So check them out and let us know what you think of them - or if you've seen them - in the comments below.

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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840199)
Posted by Tyrannacon on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:11pm CST
Saw this show up on io9 and BWTF:

http://bwtf.com/news/rid2015-io9-figure ... ember-2016

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-new-robots-i ... 1788753393

Soundwave is apparently taking from his WFC/FOC design while Cyclonus is a play on his G1 design like Starscream. Plus, Skywarp? It looks like so.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840214)
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:47pm CST
We've got some huge news for you today, Seibertronians! User Mindmaster has alerted us to an article on the website Io9, Where they revealed a majority (if not all) of the toys coming out in the Robots In Disguise Spring 2017 wave! The big news here is most of the new figures are classic characters no one expected to be included in RID2015, so this is a surprise certainly coming out of left field for most.

Spanning all size classes, characters like Blurr, Bludgeon, Cyclonus and, most importantly, Soundwave will be joining the cast sometime in the future! The toys also have some interesting new gimmicks, such as Activator Combiner Soundwave, who comes with a Laserbeak who turns into a small weapon, with "Deploying Battle Cannons". This calls back to the similar Minicon Deployers that are currently included in this line. Take a look at all of the images of the new toys down below and tell us in the comments what you think of these new incarnations of classic Transformer Characters!


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Legion Class

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3-Step

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Activator Combiners Soundwave

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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840215)
Posted by Cobotron on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:50pm CST
Wow! Some of those look amazing! Blurr and Twinferno look fun. And Hey! Skywarp before Thundercracker? Now we're talking!

Yo News crew! You guys seeing this?

EDIT: Bronzewolf with the save! :APPLAUSE: :-P
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840217)
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:53pm CST
Someone in Hasbro REALLY likes Twinferno, huh? First being the only Monsterbot to get the Generations treatment and now this. I'm getting a John Warden Deluxe Vehicles vibe here :-?

While this all looks majorly badass, I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it. RiD 2015 used to mostly be it's own thing with the recent Starscream harkening back to the past so much being a big surprise, but what made it so great is that it was unique. Now it feels like the toyline's starting to overflow with G1 influence when before it was packed with originality and new characters. Don't get me wrong, I still prefer these G1 characters to what RiD has put out and I'm excited for most of these figures - especially that Soundwave holy shit - but... I dunno. It's starting to feel like RiD's uniqueness is starting to fade and mesh in with everything else.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840218)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:53pm CST
The one article said Hasbro is making designs inspired by G1...that's not all that new, and Titans Return is a much better example of that...
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840221)
Posted by Cobotron on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:58pm CST
When the Bludgeon mold was revealed at NYCC he was a Bot and had a different name. So we're getting two, or they changed their mind?

And I agree Kurona. Although these look fun, I wouldn't mind the line staying the course of originality it was on.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840222)
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 12:59pm CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:The one article said Hasbro is making designs inspired by G1...that's not all that new, and Titans Return is a much better example of that...

I was groaning at the article the whole way through. Acting as if this is the first time there's been full-on G1 influence... meanwhile, there is literally a direct remake of the G1 Soundwave toy in a Titans Return Leader box, original alt-mode (or at least a close approximation of it), cassette partners and all. :HEADHURTS:
"The warrior class features some of the largest figures in the RiD line" oh come on
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840224)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:00pm CST
Warrior Class
Starscream
Bludgeon
Blurr
Soundwave
Twinferno
Skywarp

Legion
Blurr
Cyclonus
Starscream

Of note is that the Warror Starscream is a regular retail release, and thus may have some changes from the TRU Clash version. As for Bludegon, I'm going to assume he's a redeco of Blastwave, as I don't see any of the others revealed earlier.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840225)
Posted by Railbomb on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:04pm CST
I kinda like how that Soundwave takes design cues from both the WFC/FOC and Prime designs. And depending on how well that Bludgeon looks in hand I might use him as my G1 Bludgeon.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840226)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:05pm CST
Kurona wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:The one article said Hasbro is making designs inspired by G1...that's not all that new, and Titans Return is a much better example of that...

I was groaning at the article the whole way through. Acting as if this is the first time there's been full-on G1 influence... meanwhile, there is literally a direct remake of the G1 Soundwave toy in a Titans Return Leader box, original alt-mode (or at least a close approximation of it), cassette partners and all. :HEADHURTS:
"The warrior class features some of the largest figures in the RiD line" oh come on

And now I'm reading the comments.

blaaaaaargh
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840228)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:06pm CST
Cobotron wrote:When the Bludgeon mold was revealed at NYCC he was a Bot and had a different name. So we're getting two, or they changed their mind?

And I agree Kurona. Although these look fun, I wouldn't mind the line staying the course of originality it was on.

The 3 we saw in new york arent there so I am assuming these all come after. That means that we will first get Blasstwave, White Drift and Stormshot. So far they have been releasing 3 new warriors per wave, so I dont know how this will all play out. So much for those who thought this line was dead is growing more and more and giving us more stuff. I love it. I still want a warrior hamerstrike but this is all good stuff. I dont know if I will get that skywarp or not but all the rest of these warriors are definite buys.

And I find it cool how taht Soundwave has the same body type as Prime Rumble and Frenzy. It will be a cool dynamic to have him stand in the middle of the two with them acting like his goons. About Soundwave, man, that guy's agent must have been working overtime.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840229)
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:07pm CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:The one article said Hasbro is making designs inspired by G1...that's not all that new, and Titans Return is a much better example of that...

I was groaning at the article the whole way through. Acting as if this is the first time there's been full-on G1 influence... meanwhile, there is literally a direct remake of the G1 Soundwave toy in a Titans Return Leader box, original alt-mode (or at least a close approximation of it), cassette partners and all. :HEADHURTS:
"The warrior class features some of the largest figures in the RiD line" oh come on

And now I'm reading the comments.

blaaaaaargh

Run, Blaster! Save yourself!
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840234)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:09pm CST
Dont read the comments! You are still so young!
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840238)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:14pm CST
...welp, I'm back from the comments section. *Hides in a cardboard box*

...so, the new toys look cool. Wonder how Soundwave and Cyclonus will factor into the show, if at all.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840241)
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CST
Soundwave will definitely be a big thing in the show; probably the new 'con leader. You don't just get a whole slew of toys like that, all original molds and don't appear.

Cyclonus too considering he's a new mold. I'd expect Skywarp and Bludgeon too but since they're easy redecoes of past figures, won't be surprised if they don't appear. Then again, Soundwave probably needs team fillers, and there don't appear to be many Decepticon toys not currently arrested and taken back to Cybertron...
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840245)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Dont read the comments! You are still so young!


Eh, I've seen worse. At least some are trying to educate people. >:oP
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840249)
Posted by PrymeStriker on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:24pm CST
HOLY SH*T

These have got to be some of the best-looking toys to come out of RID's toyline. Looks like Soundwave's getting a major upgrade if this means he's making yet another return to the series.

Also, Blurr, eh? Are we finally getting a Rescue Bots crossover?
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840252)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:26pm CST
Kurona wrote:Soundwave will definitely be a big thing in the show; probably the new 'con leader. You don't just get a whole slew of toys like that, all original molds and don't appear.

Cyclonus too considering he's a new mold.

But he's recycling the engineering of Starscream and Windblade. It could go either way, but yeah I think he will be on the show. Looking forward to the warrior toy.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840253)
Posted by bluecatcinema on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:27pm CST
Wow, this is some good stuff. I like what they've done with Soundwave, and Blurr and Twinferno look really cool.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840254)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:29pm CST
PrymeStriker wrote:HOLY SH*T

These have got to be some of the best-looking toys to come out of RID's toyline. Looks like Soundwave's getting a major upgrade if this means he's making yet another return to the series.

Also, Blurr, eh? Are we finally getting a Rescue Bots crossover?

Sideswipe already showed up in rescue bots:

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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840256)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:33pm CST
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This is awesome! Bludgeon looks amazing. Blurr!! Yes!!! Soundwave is like a mix between Prime, Animated, and WF/FOC!!! WTF Twinferno?!?! Awesome!!!

This whole thing is awesome. Means I can pass on Blastwave and get Stormjet and Drift from wave 1 2017 and wait on all these cons!!
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840262)
Posted by Optimusprime809 on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:51pm CST
AHHHHHHHHHH!!! THEY LOOK AWESOME!!!!!
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840264)
Posted by SureShot18 on November 10th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST
Ooh exciting! The only one that is a must have is Bludgeon out of all things. Looks really nice and negates the need for the RotF Bludgeon. I think the only two I might pass on are Skywarp and Blurr. Nothing's really wrong with Blurr it's just the TR one is so good and Skywarp is well a repainted Starscream. I do hope that that Cyclonus design gets a warrior toy sooner or later.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840266)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 10th, 2016 @ 2:04pm CST
It may just be be, but Cyclonus really reminds me of the Air Vehicon :-?:

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Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840277)
Posted by Emerje on November 10th, 2016 @ 2:41pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Also, Blurr, eh? Are we finally getting a Rescue Bots crossover?

Sideswipe already showed up in rescue bots:


I think he means in RID. So far all of the cross overs with Prime/RID characters have been on Rescue Bots for both the toys and cartoon, this is the first time we have appears to be a Rescue Bot in the RID toy line.

I really like that RID is fixing one of my major complaints in that the Prime character designs didn't make sense as coming from the Cybertron games. Now we're finally seeing designs in RID for Starscream and Soundwave that actually look like a cross between the two styles.

I wonder if Starscream's final figure will have the accurate gray shoulders? Doesn't really make sense to keep the blue shoulders from the Clash figure.

Emerje
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840280)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 2:52pm CST
Emerje wrote:I really like that RID is fixing one of my major complaints in that the Prime character designs didn't make sense as coming from the Cybertron games. Now we're finally seeing designs in RID for Starscream and Soundwave that actually look like a cross between the two styles.


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I ignore that the alligned continuity is a thing so I didnt even think about it. I saw that Soundwave and said, well that takes from a few sources including FOC Soundwave, and left it at that. But this is quite literally Soundwave taking hint of his own previous body in that "same" continuity. When I thought that continuity thread was dead at this point, they bring it all back.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840282)
Posted by Deadput on November 10th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CST
Whelp I died when I saw this due to the aura of awesomeness but then I came back because there is one question on my mind.



Where are the stock photos of Stormshot, Blastwave and the IDW Drift repaint?


Did Hasbro forget about them or something?
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840283)
Posted by Va'al on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:06pm CST
As an update to the recent story about a handful of G1 characters joining the toyline for Transformers: Robots in Disguise (note: we are told that only some will actually make it onto the show), we have the official product descriptions, bios, price points and features, all gathered below for your browsing convenience - take a read, and join the conversation in the Energon Pub!

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TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE LEGION CLASS Assortment

(Ages 6 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/Available: Spring 2017)


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TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE 1-STEP CHANGERS Assortment

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TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE WARRIOR CLASS Assortment

(Ages 6 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $14.99/Available: Spring 2017)


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TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE 3-STEP CHANGERS Assortment

(Ages 5 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/Available: Spring 2017)


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TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE ACTIVATOR COMBINER PACK

(Ages 5 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/Available: Spring 2017)




Product Descriptions



LEGION CLASS

Collectible Transformers: Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Legion Class figures are smaller-scale figures that feature classic Transformers conversion.



Product: Legion Class Starscream

Change this Legion Class Starscream figure between robot and jet in 5 steps. Scan the Decepticon shield on this Starscream figure to unlock a token in the mobile app. Collect other Legion Class figures and create your own Autobot vs. Decepticon battles (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)



If Starscream has to defeat hundreds of Autobots on his quest for universal domination, then so be it. He would like nothing more than to prove his immense power and superiority over all other bots. Do the Autobots have the strength to bring down the power-hungry Decepticon?



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Transformers: Robots in Disguise Legion Class Springload figure

· Smaller-scale figure features classic conversion

· Changes between robot and jet in 5 steps

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Take over the planet alongside Starscream



Product: Legion Class Blurr

Change this Legion Class Blurr figure between robot and sports car in 6 steps. Scan the Autobot shield on this Blurr figure to unlock a token in the mobile app. Collect other Legion Class figures and create your own Autobot vs. Decepticon battles (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)



The only thing Decepticons can use to catch Blurr is the trail of dust that follow. The Autobot is a supersonic data messenger with a knack for delivering parcels of information in a matter of nanokliks. When the Autobots need to send vital intel from one base to another, they look to Blurr to get the job done.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Transformers: Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Legion Class Blurr figure

· Smaller-scale figure features classic conversion

· Changes between robot and sports car in 6 steps

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Deliver cyber messages with Blurr





Product: Legion Class Cyclonus

Change this Legion Class Cyclonus figure between robot and jet. Scan the Decepticon shield on this Cyclonus figure to unlock a token in the mobile app. Collect other Legion Class figures and create your own Autobot vs. Decepticon battles. (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)



Behind the high council on Cybertron, sits evil mastermind Cyclonus. Using his mind-controlling power, the rogue Decepticon schemes to brainwash every bot on the planet if that’s what it takes to fulfill his devious plans for Cybertron and the galaxy.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Combiner Force Legion Class Cyclonus figure

· Smaller-scale figure features classic conversion

· Changes between robot and jet

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Control the High Council with Cyclonus



1-STEP CHANGERS

Experience the excitement of instant conversion with figures that change between modes in 1 step.



Product: 1-Step Changer Blurr

Convert this 1-Step Changer Blurr figure from robot to sports car in 1 quick, kick-latch motion. Imagine charging into battle with Transformers: Robots in Disguise Combiner Force 1-Step Changer figures. Scan the Autobot shield on this Blurr figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



The only thing Decepticons can use to catch Blurr is the trail of dust that follows. The Autobot is a supersonic data messenger with a knack for delivering parcels of information in a matter of nanokliks. When the Autobots need to send vital intel from one base to another, they look to Blurr to get the job done.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· 1-Step Changer Blurr figure

· Changes between robot and sports car in 1 step

· Convert this figure in 1 quick, kick-latch motion



3-STEP CHANGERS

Experience the excitement of conversion in 3 awesome steps, with Transformers: Robots in Disguise Combiner Force 3-Step Changer figures



Product: 3-Step Changer Soundwave

To convert this 3-Step Changer Soundwave figure from robot to tank, swing the arms up and over and flip the legs behind the head in a smooth Hyper-Vault motion. Imagine charging into battle with figures that change modes in 3 steps! Scan the Decepticon shield on this figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



Soundwave is the ultimate spy, capable of locating any enemy. The treacherous signal stealer can detect any Autobot transmission and mask his own signature to avoid detection. The Autobots may not realize the Decepticon has targeted them until it’s too late.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Combiner Force 3-Step Changer Soundwave figure

· Changes between robot and tank in 3 steps

· Convert this figure in a quick 3-step Hyper-Vault motion

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app



WARRIORS CLASS

Collectible Transformers: Robots in Disguise Combiner Force Warriors Class figures are larger-scale figures that feature classic Transformers conversion and awesome weapon accessories



Product: Warriors Class Starscream

Change this Warriors Class Starscream figure between robot and jet in 9 steps. Figure comes with 2 blaster accessories. Scan the Decepticon shield on this Starscream figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



If Starscream has to defeat hundreds of Autobots on his quest for universal domination, then so be it. He would like nothing more than to prove his immense power and superiority over all other bots. Do the Autobots have the strength to bring down the power-hungry Decepticon? Join the battle with this figure based on the Transformers: Robots in Disguise animated series.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Warriors Class Starscream figure

· Changes between robot and jet mode in 9 steps

· Figure comes with 2 blaster accessories

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Take over the planet alongside Starscream



Product: Warriors Class Decepticon Bludgeon

Change this Warriors Class Decepticon Bludgeon figure between robot and tank in 13 steps. Figure comes with 2 blaster accessories. Scan the Decepticon shield on this Bludgeon figure to unlock a token in the mobile app,



Decepticon Bludgeon is a dangerous and masterful warrior. Sharp as a knife on the battlefield, the ferocious samurai uses his mighty swords to pull off the ultimate surprise ambush on the Autobots.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Warriors Class Decepticon Bludgeon figure

· Changes between robot and tank in 13 steps

· Figure comes with 2 blaster accessories

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Take down the Autobots with Decepticon Bludgeon



Product: Warriors Class Blurr

Change this Warriors Class Blurr figure between robot and sports car in 11 steps. Figure comes with 1 blaster accessory. Scan the Autobot shield on this Blurr figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



The only thing Decepticons can use to catch Blurr is the trail of dust that follows. The Autobot is a supersonic data messenger with a knack for delivering parcels of information in a matter of nanokliks. When the Autobots need to send vital intel from one base to another, they look to Blurr to get the job done.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Warriors Class Blurr figure

· Changes between robot and sports car in 11 steps

· Figure comes with 1 blaster accessory

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Deliver cyber messages with Blurr



Product: Warriors Class Skywarp

Change this Warriors Class Skywarp figure between robot and jet in 9 steps. Figure comes with 2 blaster accessories. Scan the Decepticon shield on this Skywarp figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



Fortunately for the Autobots, Skywarp is the only known Decepticon with the ability to teleport. As one of the sneakiest Decepticons in the universe, he has a knack for playing cruel pranks, including a few on his fellow Decepticons. Skywarp may not be the sharpest bot on the ship, but he attacks like fire, disappearing, and then reappearing out of nowhere to ambush the Autobots.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Warriors Class Skywarp figure

· Changes between robot and jet in 9 steps

· Figure comes with 2 blaster accessories

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Battle Autobots in the sky with Skywarp



Product: Warriors Class Soundwave

Change this Warriors Class Soundwave figure between robot and tank in 14 steps. Figure comes with 1 blaster accessory. Scan the Decepticon shield on this Soundwave figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



Soundwave is the ultimate spy and communications specialist, capable of scanning and decoding any radio signal within range. Using radio waves to monitor the Autobots and their plans, Soundwave locates the enemy and informs the Decepticons of their whereabouts. Dedicated and devoted to the cause, Soundwave has quickly moved up the Decepticon ranks.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Warriors Class Soundwave figure

· Changes between robot and tank in 14 steps

· Figure comes with 1 blaster accessory

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Monitor Autobot radio transmissions with Soundwave



Product: Warriors Class Autobot Twinferno

Change this Warriors Class Autobot Twinferno figure between robot and dragon fighter jet mode in 8 steps. The figure comes with 2 flame accessories. Scan the Autobot shield on this Twinferno figure to unlock a token in the mobile app.



As Autobot Twinferno might say, “Great minds think alike”-- at least when it comes to destroying Decepticons. The flying warrior has two minds that barely agree on anything, but that only fuels his fire for demolishing the enemy. When Autobot Twinferno is in dragon mode, he breathes fire from two heads. It’s double the trouble for the Decepticons!



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Warriors Class Autobot Twinferno figure

· Changes between robot and dragon fighter jet mode in 8 steps

· Figure comes with 2 flame accessories

· Scan the shield to unlock a token in the app

· Destroy Decepticons with Autobot Twinferno



ACTIVATOR COMBINER

Product: Activator Combiners Soundwave & Laserbeak

Soundwave spies on Autobot communication. Oh, scrap! The Autobots have detected his location. Not so fast -- Laserbeak attaches to Soundwave to activate signal scrambler-mode and mask their location.



Kids can combine forces and activate awesome pop-out battle modes with Transformers: Robots in Disguise Activator Combiner figures. This Activator Combiner 2-pack features one Soundwave figure and one Laserbeak figure. Attach the Soundwave figure to the Laserbeak figure to activate signal-scrambler mode.



The Soundwave figure converts from robot to tank. Activator figures work with other Activator Combiner figures (each sold separately). Scan the shields on these figures to unlock Soundwave and Laserbeak characters in the mobile app.



[PRODUCT FEATURES]

· Activator Combiner Soundwave and Laserbeak figures

· Attach Laserbeak figure to Soundwave figure to activate signal-scrambler mode

· In tank mode, Soundwave figure triggers battle cannons

· Works with other Activator Combiner figures (each sold separately)

· Scan the shields to unlock these characters in the app
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840284)
Posted by Noideaforaname on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:10pm CST
SAMUS DRAGON BOMBER TWINFERNO! And he isn't redundant with the Titans Return version!


The others? Meh. RiD's been so damn uninteresting with the villain choices. The show gives us crazy 3-armed train-snakes and Spider-Combiners and Ped, but the toyline just goes with the plain humanoid ones...
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840285)
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:11pm CST
Oh so the whole thing about the council on the show is just Cyclonus mind-controlling everyone. Mystery solved.

Soundwave's alt mode is classified as... as a tank? ... oooookie dokie then.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840286)
Posted by Deadput on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:12pm CST
Whelp that's an interesting fact about Cyclonus


AND MIGHT I SAY SPOILERS!!!


If you don't like spoilers don't read Cyclonus's bio which spoils what will probably be a future twist on the show.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840287)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CST
Deadput wrote:Did Hasbro forget about them or something?

Maybe. But those arent G1 characters so they didnt work with this story. I feel they wanted to tell collectors that this line was for them too.

This is basically the biggest story ever done for RID toys since they existed. They always seemed like a secondary line as far as marketting to collectors was concerned (con presence, reveals, ect). So I can see why the theme of this news was to only show G1 centric characters. Thats also why they clearly missed Legion Springload who is also coming out. The Spring date is super odd though. I Spring we already have the new aforementioned warriors, and all those crash combiners. Now we have 5 more warriors?!
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840290)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:17pm CST
Deadput wrote:Whelp that's an interesting fact about Cyclonus


AND MIGHT I SAY SPOILERS!!!


If you don't like spoilers don't read Cyclonus's bio which spoils what will probably be a future twist on the show.

:lol: Indeed.

The good news though is that him being the big bad means we will probably get a warrior figure from him.

Also, am I the only one who is not feeling that seeker mold as being for anyone else than Starsceam (unlike the WFC or even the CW version)? Its like when they gave the coronation gear to Sunstorm as well. It just doesnt fit.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840294)
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:27pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Deadput wrote:Whelp that's an interesting fact about Cyclonus


AND MIGHT I SAY SPOILERS!!!


If you don't like spoilers don't read Cyclonus's bio which spoils what will probably be a future twist on the show.

:lol: Indeed.

The good news though is that him being the big bad means we will probably get a warrior figure from him.

Also, am I the only one who is not feeling that seeker mold as being for anyone else than Starsceam (unlike the WFC or even the CW version)? Its like when they gave the coronation gear to Sunstorm as well. It just doesnt fit.

Yeah, it makes sense they're making Seekers out of it; but it's one of those times where a Starscream mold just fits his personality and his personality alone. I felt the same about TFP; I always saw that as a Starscream mold - not a Seeker mold.
Re: Pictorial Reviews of New Legion Starscream and Springload from Robots in Disguise (1840296)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:31pm CST
I feel the same as well, which is why I am not that into Skywarp.

But hey, look at all those cons!!! FRIKKIN' BLUDGEON!!!!

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