Pictorial Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Megatron

Cobotron wrote:Hey Seibertron! When does your flight leave? I'm getting Antsy!

Tyrannacon wrote:Made a run to Toys R Us and Target today to mostly see what they had and there were no Combiner Wars here in my part of Ohio. Target had room for 'em, but it was an empty shelf. Slow going here in north east Ohio where I'm at. They did have RiD toys at TRU though. Something tells me it might be a while before they reach saturation here. I saw they had a lot of AoE stuff left over.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey Seibertron! When does your flight leave? I'm getting Antsy!

Toy fair starts this Saturday, it goes on until the following Tuesday.

Cobotron wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:Made a run to Toys R Us and Target today to mostly see what they had and there were no Combiner Wars here in my part of Ohio. Target had room for 'em, but it was an empty shelf. Slow going here in north east Ohio where I'm at. They did have RiD toys at TRU though. Something tells me it might be a while before they reach saturation here. I saw they had a lot of AoE stuff left over.

Same over here on the west side of the middle. Nebraska is a waste land. And so are the retailers.
Did you notice the prices for voyagers at TRU? $29.99! I saw this, came home and ordered both first wave CW voyagers form BBTS for $49.99. Who does TRU think theys is?

Va'al wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey Seibertron! When does your flight leave? I'm getting Antsy!

Toy fair starts this Saturday, it goes on until the following Tuesday.

Though Saturday/Sunday are the biggest moments for news.


Just stay tuned.
(As I get little to no sleep, scream at my modem, boss staff around and fall asleep Monday morning during my lecture.)

shockblast2 wrote:

Rated X wrote:So what exactly is "G3" anyways ?

Inquiring minds want to know ?

Every current offering from the Generations line starting with the IDW release wave containing Pax, Bumblebee, Trailcutter, and Megatron almost two years back. Its is the current incarnation of the transformers in the toyline. Just like G2 before it.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Yo, the Club Magazine's arriving with a preview of warpath. A friend told me about him. Warpath appears to a a slight redeco and retool of the Generations Legends Megatron toy. The colors and head are G1 Warpath, but he lacks the classic barrel chest due to the mold choice.

megatronus wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:True on G2. I guess we have to go with it though because it was officially branded as such.

I don't think you can classify Classics, RTS, and Universe with Generations. The former was straight up recreations of G1 characters and was advertised as such, whereas Generations has become its own entity with the comics driving the fiction, which is entirely separate from G1. The first year of Geneerations was like Classics, but after FOC took over it changed.

So the recent Generations Leaders Jetfire and Megatron are not reinterpretations of the G1 characters as were the initial universe/classic releases of Jetfire and Megatron? Or are they testament that the generations line has rebooted what the classics line began? What about Arcee and Chromia? I do see how the line changed with FOC. But releases like Nightbeat and Roadbuster and the others mentioned above really feel like a continuation of the notion that the initial classics line had. Would you agree?

I can see why one would think that for some of the figures, like Roadbuster, Whirl, and Arcee. But ultimately I view them as a stand alone. The fact that Jhaxis, Waspinator, and Rhinox, among others, didn't even exist in G1 solidifies this for me. Which is great, because you can have new additions, like Alpha and Offroad, and totally disregard prior fiction that would have made his inclusion illogical.

I have been on both sides in my time with transformers. And I find the Classics style collecting very constraining. You have a set of rules and ideologies you have to conform to. With the new line, its all open. Anyone can exist in this continuity, or not, like in the case of Wildrider.

I don't quite get your argument. You say the difference between Classics and Generations is that Classics is reimagined G1 while Generations is fiction driven. Except:

-The IDW fiction is a reimagining of the G1 Universe, so you can say the corresponding Generations figures (particularly the IDW-styled ones) are similarly G1 updates

-The standalones you mention are all G1 in one form or another; Jhiaxus is in the original Marvel comics, while Whirl and Roadbuster were G1 toys

-As WJ mentioned, Beast Wars is technically within the G1 timeline, so once again, figures like Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator can be viewed as updates to that timeline


All of these characters are being reintegrated into a new storyline/continuity, but they're mostly G1 homages, with the nice addition of some new characters to cut our teeth on. This obsession you have with framing the argument as your openness to new-ness vs. others' hard and set ideology (seriously - you think we have an ideology???) does a real disservice to the complexities of what the Generations line can be to different people, and how the IDW comics have managed to breathe new life into this old brand.

shockblast2 wrote:

Mr O wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:BTW, I didn't know G2 had a cartoon? If the user meant because of the Japanese cartoons that came after G1, that is irrelevant to us living in the 90's in the US. Because they never aired here. So technically G2 had no cartoon driving it.

It was the original cartoon with crappy CGI bookends. It still counts.

LOL...I guess. The point is I don't recall it being aired in the US, and I was 12 or so at the time. If it did I don't remember it.

Optimum Supreme wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Mr O wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:BTW, I didn't know G2 had a cartoon? If the user meant because of the Japanese cartoons that came after G1, that is irrelevant to us living in the 90's in the US. Because they never aired here. So technically G2 had no cartoon driving it.

It was the original cartoon with crappy CGI bookends. It still counts.

LOL...I guess. The point is I don't recall it being aired in the US, and I was 12 or so at the time. If it did I don't remember it.

It definitely aired in the US. Maybe your area didn't have a station that carried it.

Railbomb wrote:Is there any word on if Blackjack's ax thing can form Menasor's sword hilt yet? Sorry if this has already been answered, just a little bit curious and didn't feel like going through over 100 pages of this to find out.

SkyWarpt wrote:Must be a different part of TX, all my stores have peg warmed Tankor, the rodent, and TF4 one step changers

Sabrblade wrote:

Railbomb wrote:Is there any word on if Blackjack's ax thing can form Menasor's sword hilt yet? Sorry if this has already been answered, just a little bit curious and didn't feel like going through over 100 pages of this to find out.

It can't.

Cobotron wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:Made a run to Toys R Us and Target today to mostly see what they had and there were no Combiner Wars here in my part of Ohio. Target had room for 'em, but it was an empty shelf. Slow going here in north east Ohio where I'm at. They did have RiD toys at TRU though. Something tells me it might be a while before they reach saturation here. I saw they had a lot of AoE stuff left over.

Same over here on the west side of the middle. Nebraska is a waste land. And so are the retailers.
Did you notice the prices for voyagers at TRU? $29.99! I saw this, came home and ordered both first wave CW voyagers form BBTS for $49.99. Who does TRU think theys is?

Autobot032 wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian, fenrir72, we were directed to the link of Amiami's higher resolution and non-watermarked copies of the previously seen promotional photos for the upcoming TakaraTomy Unite Warriors Aerialbots set. The updated images feature Slingshot in better detail as well, and as expected, all of the figures feature different decos from their Hasbro counterparts including their weapons and combiner weapons/appendages.

RiddlerJ wrote:People have suggested that Motormaster's grey deco may be to tie him in with AOE's Galvatron, which I can believe.

But the more I look at the toy, I also wonder if it was because while the original MM had a black truck cab, the whole toy is primarily grey since it's mostly the trailer. They may have felt making the truck all black might have made the the homage weaker, not stronger, especially since Motormaster has to compete with Nemesis Prime now in the black truck department.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS – 2015 PRODUCT DESCRIPTIONS

Hasbro’s TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line of action figures features characters and expressions from throughout the more than 30 years of the Transformers brand. In 2015 the GENERATIONS line unites under one big story – COMBINER WARS!
Courage is Stronger Combined! In the COMBINER WARS, giant super robots, formed by teams of AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS, battle for the fate of the universe. The evil DECEPTICON STARSCREAM plans to use these giant robots as weapons to lay waste to entire planets, conquering worlds with the might of the powerful but unstable DECEPTICON Combiner: MENASOR. The AUTOBOTS rally their own Combiners to stop them. With the freedom of the universe pushed to the brink, OPTIMUS PRIME must master the power of Combination to defeat the DECEPTICONS!
Fans of all ages can play out this story with key action figure scales with in the line. DELUXE, VOYAGER, and select LEGENDS scale figures can be combined together to create larger scale Combiner robot figures!

The 2015 TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line from Hasbro features the following products:

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEGENDS Assortment(Ages 8 & up/Approx. Retail Price: $9.99/Available: Spring 2015)

Courage is Stronger When Combined! TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEGENDS assortment includes fan favorite TRANSFORMERS characters, re-imagined for the present day. Featuring the simplest conversion in the TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS line, these figures are also the perfect introduction for kids ready to move up to the more sophisticated world of TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS. They're also detailed enough to appeal to the collector. Figure converts in 7 or more steps. Select figures within the assortment can convert into a weapon or accessory for a TRANSFORMERS COMBINER figure (sold separately) and each includes a Collector Card. Figures in 2015 include HUFFER and DECEPTICON BLACKJACK. Each sold separately.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE Assortment(Ages 8 & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available: Spring 2015)

Courage is Stronger When Combined! Each TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DELUXE figure can be combined with three other DELUXE figures to form the limbs and one VOYAGER figure as the body (each sold separately) to form a gigantic TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot. Each Deluxe figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and converts from vehicle to robot form, and has a third mode as a limb of a larger COMBINER robot. Fans can create a large-scale COMBINER figure such as SUPERION or MENASOR and they can also mix and match the limbs to build their own COMBINER figure! Use LEGENDS scale figures to add weapons and accessories! Figure converts in 9 or more steps. Each figure features incredible detail and classic conversion for a premium look and feel. 16 figures will be available in 2015 including PROTECTOBOT STREETWISE, PROTECTOBOT BLADES, Protectobot First Aid, and Protectobot Rook. Each sold separately. Each Deluxe figure includes a full-size, full-length issue of IDW Publishing’s TRANSFORMERS: COMBINER WARS comic book series or a collector card.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS VOYAGER Assortment(Ages 8 & up/Approx. Retail Price: $24.99/Available: Spring 2015)

Courage is Stronger When Combined! Each TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS VOYAGER figure converts from robot to vehicle and also in its body mode can be combined with four DELUXE figures, the arms and legs, (each sold separately) to form a gigantic TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot. Fans can create a large-scale COMBINER figure such as SUPERION or MENASOR and they can also mix and match the limbs to build their own COMBINER figure! Use LEGENDS scale figures to add weapons and accessories! Characters include PROTECTOBOT HOT SPOT, CYCLONUS and more. Figure converts in 10 or more steps. Each VOYAGER scale figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character and includes a Collector Card. Each sold separately.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS LEADER Assortment(Ages 8 & up/Approx. Retail Price: $44.99/Available: Spring 2015)

Courage is Stronger When Combined! The TRANSFORMERS Generations Leader class figures include the most powerful and legendary characters rendered in incredible detail and with impressive conversions. Each large, feature-packed LEADER scale action figure is based on a classic TRANSFORMERS character, like ULTRA MAGNUS, and features a firing projectile, massive weaponry and working vehicle features. Figure converts in 15 or more steps. Each figure is sold separately and includes a Collector Card.

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS CONSTRUCTICON DEVASTATOR(Ages 8 & up/Approx. Retail Price: $149.99/Available: Fall 2015)

TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS figures form some of the largest TRANSFORMERS robots ever seen, and this one tops them all. This mega-pack unites all six of the CONSTRUCTICONS in one place. Each figure is rendered in incredible detail and features impressive conversion from robot to construction vehicle and back. But that's just the beginning — the six Voyager Scale figures combine to form the ultimate DECEPTICON weapon: the mighty CONSTRUCTICON DEVASTATOR, the largest TRANSFORMERS COMBINER robot figure!

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Va'al wrote:

Meantoy wrote:So Mixmasters cab is not the foot, nice i knew somethin didnt look right on those small pics. Still not worth the price point, $50-$60 mabey.

Meantoy wrote:So Mixmasters cab is not the foot, nice i knew somethin didnt look right on those small pics. Still not worth the price point, $50-$60 mabey.

Sabrblade wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:People have suggested that Motormaster's grey deco may be to tie him in with AOE's Galvatron, which I can believe.

But the more I look at the toy, I also wonder if it was because while the original MM had a black truck cab, the whole toy is primarily grey since it's mostly the trailer. They may have felt making the truck all black might have made the the homage weaker, not stronger, especially since Motormaster has to compete with Nemesis Prime now in the black truck department.

Well, in the cartoon, Motormaster's robot mode body was primarily black like his truck cab.

Optimizzy wrote:I think $150 is well worth 6 voyagers.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Meantoy wrote:So Mixmasters cab is not the foot, nice i knew somethin didnt look right on those small pics. Still not worth the price point, $50-$60 mabey.

The foot is still sculpted to look like a cab, just not painted.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Meantoy wrote:So Mixmasters cab is not the foot, nice i knew somethin didnt look right on those small pics. Still not worth the price point, $50-$60 mabey.

The foot is still sculpted to look like a cab, just not painted.

I dont get it. It looks like his cab is the foot. Why wouldnt it be? Where is his real cab?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Meantoy wrote:So Mixmasters cab is not the foot, nice i knew somethin didnt look right on those small pics. Still not worth the price point, $50-$60 mabey.

The foot is still sculpted to look like a cab, just not painted.

I dont get it. It looks like his cab is the foot. Why wouldnt it be? Where is his real cab?

Would you believe in the back? The wheel configuration as shown is actually reversed from the norm: 2 sets in the "front" and 1 set in the "back". Compare it with G1 and RotF G1 Mixmaster:





I think the faux cab folds into the chassis and the top swings around.

MrBlack wrote:I think you're partially right. There does appear to be a door and window above the single wheel on Mixmaster, and it looks like the top does pivot around. However, the foot still appears to be part of the front cab. From vehicle mode, it looks like part of the cab folds out to form the foot and pivots around, leaving just the doors to plug into Devastator's leg.

Sorry if I'm not describing this well.