Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz
Saturday, July 7th, 2018 11:37PM CDT
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I bought Studio Series Jazz and Lockdown the other day and seeing as how there aren’t too many photos out there (if anyone has found them in the US please let us know, we have yet to news a sighting) I wanted to give you a pictorial review of both. Especially as there are some aspects of these figures that I was unaware of until getting them and wanted to share. However, my Lockdown broke, and the store I bought it at was sold out within a day, so I will only have Jazz for you today.
Another thing before I begin, with a house full of young kids, I could only snap these pics when the sun was almost out, but even then I find there was enough natural light for some crisp pics, hopefully you like them too.
Now onto Jazz and my main complaint: HOLY F%&K is he small. People said he was but I was just not ready. You pull him out of the packaging and there is just so much empty space. Especially compared to Lockdown, who turns out not to even be that tall a deluxe. Now you are wondering how small, well here are some pics of his Legends scaled vehicle mode (no exaggeration).
Yup, that is him next to a Legends figure.
Here are some pics of him in robot mode where he is at least between legends and deluxe class (rather than just being as tall as a legends figure).
So yeah, really small. And with these studio series toys selling at a markup compared to deluxe toys from the Generations line in several countries and retailers, this bites. MSRP in Canada is $29.99, while Generations deluxes are $19.99, just to give you an idea.
I know why he’s small, it’s so he can be in scale with the other toys in the line, as seen here, which does work.
So now that I have that size issue off my chest, is the figure any good? Well, him being small does bring about some issues. Unlike an actual legends class whose design was always based to be in that class, Jazz having his movie proportions feels very light and dainty. He is not particularly easy to pose because everything is made so small with very thin joints. He does not feel solid. He has a far too generous ankle tilt that will reveal gaps in his knees. These gaps are not related to the transformation, they aren’t slots for pegs, so I don’t really know why they are there. I also have an issue with the feet. It's probably accurate but they are just nubs and look off.
As may have seen before, he does have a backpack and it does take away an otherwhise sleek silhouette in many action poses. I do like the accessory. It can be used as a handheld gun in one had or, like in the film, it can attach to one of his arms to give it the look that his arm transformed into the gun. That is probably my favourite aspect of the toy. Because it sure ain't the car mode.
So yeah while the car mode is small, that is not the main complaint. Instead that would be the gaps. It is very easy to make him gappy in alt mode so I highly recommend you read the instructions and look at a video just to make sure you have everything pegged in correctly. I read the instructions and still had gaps but I have fixed it since. There is lots of stuff crammed into him since half his robot mode body is not made up of car parts. And as you saw, the car is smaller than the robot, so there's lots to stuff in there.
The colour is good. I could do with more detail though, especially in the back, which is just silver paint. Plus for a “premium” style toy, those black plastic wheels look cheap as hell. Don know why they didn’t paint some rims, it’s not like the car body needed tons of paint. You can hook the weapon in the back but it dos not hold well and the look does not work for me.
So there you go. Overall, better than the original deluxe in terms of proportions, aesthetic and transformation. But this little dude feels flimsy in the legs, and by no means is this toy worth the asking price.
Another thing before I begin, with a house full of young kids, I could only snap these pics when the sun was almost out, but even then I find there was enough natural light for some crisp pics, hopefully you like them too.
Now onto Jazz and my main complaint: HOLY F%&K is he small. People said he was but I was just not ready. You pull him out of the packaging and there is just so much empty space. Especially compared to Lockdown, who turns out not to even be that tall a deluxe. Now you are wondering how small, well here are some pics of his Legends scaled vehicle mode (no exaggeration).
Yup, that is him next to a Legends figure.
Here are some pics of him in robot mode where he is at least between legends and deluxe class (rather than just being as tall as a legends figure).
So yeah, really small. And with these studio series toys selling at a markup compared to deluxe toys from the Generations line in several countries and retailers, this bites. MSRP in Canada is $29.99, while Generations deluxes are $19.99, just to give you an idea.
I know why he’s small, it’s so he can be in scale with the other toys in the line, as seen here, which does work.
So now that I have that size issue off my chest, is the figure any good? Well, him being small does bring about some issues. Unlike an actual legends class whose design was always based to be in that class, Jazz having his movie proportions feels very light and dainty. He is not particularly easy to pose because everything is made so small with very thin joints. He does not feel solid. He has a far too generous ankle tilt that will reveal gaps in his knees. These gaps are not related to the transformation, they aren’t slots for pegs, so I don’t really know why they are there. I also have an issue with the feet. It's probably accurate but they are just nubs and look off.
As may have seen before, he does have a backpack and it does take away an otherwhise sleek silhouette in many action poses. I do like the accessory. It can be used as a handheld gun in one had or, like in the film, it can attach to one of his arms to give it the look that his arm transformed into the gun. That is probably my favourite aspect of the toy. Because it sure ain't the car mode.
So yeah while the car mode is small, that is not the main complaint. Instead that would be the gaps. It is very easy to make him gappy in alt mode so I highly recommend you read the instructions and look at a video just to make sure you have everything pegged in correctly. I read the instructions and still had gaps but I have fixed it since. There is lots of stuff crammed into him since half his robot mode body is not made up of car parts. And as you saw, the car is smaller than the robot, so there's lots to stuff in there.
The colour is good. I could do with more detail though, especially in the back, which is just silver paint. Plus for a “premium” style toy, those black plastic wheels look cheap as hell. Don know why they didn’t paint some rims, it’s not like the car body needed tons of paint. You can hook the weapon in the back but it dos not hold well and the look does not work for me.
So there you go. Overall, better than the original deluxe in terms of proportions, aesthetic and transformation. But this little dude feels flimsy in the legs, and by no means is this toy worth the asking price.
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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969413)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 7th, 2018 @ 11:42pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 7th, 2018 @ 11:42pm CDT
So, like an old Basic/Scout class figure.william-james88 wrote:Here are some pics of him in robot mode where he is at least between legends and deluxe class (rather than just being as tall as a legends figure).
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969439)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:27am CDT
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:27am CDT
There's a trick to getting rid of the gaps in vehicle mode. Underneath the roof of the car is a clear blue peg, and in the back of the waist there is a peg hole, make sure they are tabbed together and you will get a much cleaner car mode. 
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969440)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:32am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:32am CDT
No. I disagree with your Jazz review a lot. I dunno what you've done with the car mode there but there's no way it should have huge gaps like that. Even on the ones I've seen where they have some gaps it's nowhere near like that. You've either got a faulty one or you've done it wrong. and I very much disagree about the "doesn't feel solid" bit. I've had mine for a about a couple months (bought with Lockdown who is also awesome) and I've played with it loads and it feels pretty damn solid to me with a well transformed compact torso, stiff joints, poses well, can balance good (I don't even often have the rear feet stabilisers folded down but they're there when I need to pose him in a way that needs the extra support). My only real negatives about the figure are that the backpack is kinda large and the shin pieces being all attach to the ankle joint is a bit odd but I bloody love this lil shiny dude. Heck I even paid more than the RRP price for both Jazz and Lockdown by about £7 each and I still felt no regrets (unlike Grimlock, that dino mode still bugs the hell out of me, there's so many things wrong with it for the £53 I paid and gonna have to spend more money on the upgrade kit to fix some of it). Jazz has been one of my most genuinely enjoyable figures of the past year and one I even take with me out and about sometimes like to rehearsals when I'm sat there waiting for my scene and bored out of my mind. I like your photos a lot but I really find myself disagreeing a lot with your reviews.
Pic I just took of him balancing on one foot without even needing the black stabiliser bits folded out of the ankles. Put him on the edge of the desk cos I had no fear he was gonna fall over. I even stomped on the floor a bit.
Now he's going in my backpack cos I got a 7 hour rehearsal today and I'm just a nobody in some dance scenes and a footman in the ball scene so I'm gonna need lil Jazz here to keep me company in between.
Pic I just took of him balancing on one foot without even needing the black stabiliser bits folded out of the ankles. Put him on the edge of the desk cos I had no fear he was gonna fall over. I even stomped on the floor a bit.
Now he's going in my backpack cos I got a 7 hour rehearsal today and I'm just a nobody in some dance scenes and a footman in the ball scene so I'm gonna need lil Jazz here to keep me company in between.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969444)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:02am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:02am CDT
Why so many people got the "gappy car"? As mentioned above, there's a tab behind Jazz's waist that tab under the roof. THAT is what will remove the gaps. My guess is the instructions are obviously unclear for this step.
I can't seem to embed the precise part of the video properly but clicky the link:
https://youtu.be/9d0QzhELPVY?t=6m45s
I can't seem to embed the precise part of the video properly but clicky the link:
https://youtu.be/9d0QzhELPVY?t=6m45s
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969445)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:09am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:09am CDT
I think it might have caused problems with jazz being a smaller class or cheaper than his counterparts. So this might have been the best in a very bad situation. Unless there was other characters which are in the same boat who could have been in a 'scout' wave
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969453)
Posted by Solrac333 on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:07am CDT
Posted by Solrac333 on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:07am CDT
Yeah. I'm not paying $20 for a scout class sized figure. I am fine with my old Premium Deluxe Jazz as my Jazz.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969456)
Posted by Blitzwing is bae on July 8th, 2018 @ 10:32am CDT
Posted by Blitzwing is bae on July 8th, 2018 @ 10:32am CDT
man, he sure is small, especialy with rippersnapper(who i got yesterday)
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969457)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2018 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2018 @ 10:33am CDT
Jazz was the smallest Autobot of the first movie.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969470)
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 12:31pm CDT
Then don't call him a deluxe and charge that same amount.
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 12:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Jazz was the smallest Autobot of the first movie.
Then don't call him a deluxe and charge that same amount.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969478)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:08pm CDT
They did that before with RiD 2001 Wedge. It's basically a repeat of... logistics issues shall we say. Figures with variable scale that weren't really designed for set price points have to fit in them anyway.
Nice argument against toys having to adhere to media scale tho.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:08pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Jazz was the smallest Autobot of the first movie.
Then don't call him a deluxe and charge that same amount.
They did that before with RiD 2001 Wedge. It's basically a repeat of... logistics issues shall we say. Figures with variable scale that weren't really designed for set price points have to fit in them anyway.
Nice argument against toys having to adhere to media scale tho.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969479)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:43pm CDT
So this isn't the first time it's happened then?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:43pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Jazz was the smallest Autobot of the first movie.
Then don't call him a deluxe and charge that same amount.
They did that before with RiD 2001 Wedge. It's basically a repeat of... logistics issues shall we say. Figures with variable scale that weren't really designed for set price points have to fit in them anyway.
Nice argument against toys having to adhere to media scale tho.
So this isn't the first time it's happened then?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969480)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CDT
Similar circumstance. Starting with Beast Wars, toy sizes have been strictly regulated by Hasbro. Takara tried to follow suit with BW Neo, but for Car Robots, they went their own way with sizes and prizes. Upon import as RiD 2001, some problems occured:
- Wedge was significantly smaller than his Deluxe-sized team mates, and originally priced as such.
- Team Bullet Train was in-between Size Classes, between Deluxe and Mega to be exact.
- The G1/G2 Molds had no real size class when initially designed.
Took some juggling, especially with paint and pairing them with others. Universe 2003 had similar problems.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Jazz was the smallest Autobot of the first movie.
Then don't call him a deluxe and charge that same amount.
They did that before with RiD 2001 Wedge. It's basically a repeat of... logistics issues shall we say. Figures with variable scale that weren't really designed for set price points have to fit in them anyway.
Nice argument against toys having to adhere to media scale tho.
So this isn't the first time it's happened then?
Similar circumstance. Starting with Beast Wars, toy sizes have been strictly regulated by Hasbro. Takara tried to follow suit with BW Neo, but for Car Robots, they went their own way with sizes and prizes. Upon import as RiD 2001, some problems occured:
- Wedge was significantly smaller than his Deluxe-sized team mates, and originally priced as such.
- Team Bullet Train was in-between Size Classes, between Deluxe and Mega to be exact.
- The G1/G2 Molds had no real size class when initially designed.
Took some juggling, especially with paint and pairing them with others. Universe 2003 had similar problems.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969483)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 2:21pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 2:21pm CDT
I see, thanks jelze 
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969496)
Posted by Emerje on July 8th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 8th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
Animated was also largely inconsistent.
Lugnut on the right is a Voyager while Lockdown on the left is a Deluxe, as are the two in front.
Emerje
Lugnut on the right is a Voyager while Lockdown on the left is a Deluxe, as are the two in front.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969500)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
What they lack in height they make up for it in bulk, and vice versa.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Animated was also largely inconsistent.
Lugnut on the right is a Voyager while Lockdown on the left is a Deluxe, as are the two in front.
Emerje
What they lack in height they make up for it in bulk, and vice versa.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969520)
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:39pm CDT
Thats not relevant and it was never what was being discussed. I do not mind a toy being smaller to fit a scale. What I mind is pricing. This toy clearly has less going on than the other deluxes in the line so charging as much sucks. They could have given him some extra stuff if they wanted to sell it at that price (maybe some mini figures of Sam and Megan Fox?). Like what they did with Sqweaks. That is a small deluxe, but the whole package comes with enough stuff that I didnt feel like I was cheated.
Also, thanks guys for pointing out what is responsible for the gaps, I will amend my review.
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:39pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nice argument against toys having to adhere to media scale tho.
Thats not relevant and it was never what was being discussed. I do not mind a toy being smaller to fit a scale. What I mind is pricing. This toy clearly has less going on than the other deluxes in the line so charging as much sucks. They could have given him some extra stuff if they wanted to sell it at that price (maybe some mini figures of Sam and Megan Fox?). Like what they did with Sqweaks. That is a small deluxe, but the whole package comes with enough stuff that I didnt feel like I was cheated.
Also, thanks guys for pointing out what is responsible for the gaps, I will amend my review.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969527)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:51pm CDT
Talking in a general sense there in case it ever popped up. Feel free to ignore it, everyone.
Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nice argument against toys having to adhere to media scale tho.
Thats not relevant and it was never what was being discussed.
Talking in a general sense there in case it ever popped up. Feel free to ignore it, everyone.
I do not mind a toy being smaller to fit a scale. What I mind is pricing. This toy clearly has less going on than the other deluxes in the line so charging as much sucks. They could have given him some extra stuff if they wanted to sell it at that price (maybe some mini figures of Sam and Megan Fox?). Like what they did with Sqweaks. That is a small deluxe, but the whole package comes with enough stuff that I didnt feel like I was cheated.
Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969528)
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:53pm CDT
They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 6:53pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969530)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:00pm CDT
I was thinking about Arcee, Chromia and a (new-mold) Elita-1, but they'd be tiny, wouldn't they? Was the RotF size chart ever made public?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.
I was thinking about Arcee, Chromia and a (new-mold) Elita-1, but they'd be tiny, wouldn't they? Was the RotF size chart ever made public?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969532)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
The other thing Hasbro is really anal retentive about is packaging, and they've been that for years, even back in G1 (Look what happened to the Seacons - the Hasbro giftset was short a member because they weren't going to adjust the standardized box size for one group). We might be having a case of that here, where Jazz is packaged and sold as a Deluxe because they're not adding a smaller package size and price point to the mix for just one guy. But that doesn't make it not a ripoff. There are three things they could have done to make it better: Charge less despite the same package size (and marvel that their heads didn't explode from it), add some human character figures or one of the Arcee trio or something to add value (which has precedent), or delay Jazz until Skids and Mudflap were also ready because then with three smaller guys they'd be able to justify adding another price-point and box size.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969533)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:13pm CDT
Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.
Edit: I may have mentioned this before, but this does make me wonder how the SS VW Bumblebee is going to work, because it looks like he’s shorter than even Jazz in the footage we’ve seen so far.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:13pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.
Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.
Edit: I may have mentioned this before, but this does make me wonder how the SS VW Bumblebee is going to work, because it looks like he’s shorter than even Jazz in the footage we’ve seen so far.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969536)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:26pm CDT
Jazz and Sideswipe were never onscreen together.EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.
Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969537)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:34pm CDT
Well yeah, but the height guides put them both at 15 feet, so their figures (at least in robot mode) should be the same size.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:34pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Jazz and Sideswipe were never onscreen together.EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Jazz' size vs. price, I agree with you there. A smaller Size Class would have been a good idea, but... were there characters similar in size? I'd imagine... no, no, not those two!
They would sell at least as much as a dread. And we could also get the bikes in that size class.
Sideswipe is the same height as Jazz if I remember right. Not sure how they scale in vehicle mode, though. I think they could do all three Arcee bikes at the deluxe price point, maybe make them combine like that deluxe minicon combiner we got a ways back.
Well yeah, but the height guides put them both at 15 feet, so their figures (at least in robot mode) should be the same size.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969552)
Posted by MrBlack on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CDT
Posted by MrBlack on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CDT
Found this and Lockdown today in Springfield, VA, although I did not pick up the latter.
I really like Jazz. He's small, but he's got the heft of a full-size Deluxe. I found that poseability was good overall for the size, and the deco is certainly nicer than the other Deluxes in this series so far.
I really like Jazz. He's small, but he's got the heft of a full-size Deluxe. I found that poseability was good overall for the size, and the deco is certainly nicer than the other Deluxes in this series so far.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969556)
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:19pm CDT
Which store did you find those at?
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:19pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:Found this and Lockdown today in Springfield, VA, although I did not pick up the latter.
I really like Jazz. He's small, but he's got the heft of a full-size Deluxe. I found that poseability was good overall for the size, and the deco is certainly nicer than the other Deluxes in this series so far.
Which store did you find those at?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969557)
Posted by DeathReviews on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on July 8th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
Well if they were really concerned about keeping all figures 'in scale', then most of the figures from all their lines wouldn't exist. A to-scale Trypticon or Metroplex, for example, should be at least the size of a real-life semi truck. And don't even get me started on Broadside...
Still, poor movie Jazz just can't seem to catch a break with his figures can he? Maybe if they made a Masterpiece version...
Still, poor movie Jazz just can't seem to catch a break with his figures can he? Maybe if they made a Masterpiece version...
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969564)
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 10:10pm CDT
No, I dont know why this myth persists but the basic/scout size class has been relatively consistent since inception.
Posted by william-james88 on July 8th, 2018 @ 10:10pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So, like an old Basic/Scout class figure.william-james88 wrote:Here are some pics of him in robot mode where he is at least between legends and deluxe class (rather than just being as tall as a legends figure).
No, I dont know why this myth persists but the basic/scout size class has been relatively consistent since inception.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969592)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 9th, 2018 @ 4:40am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 9th, 2018 @ 4:40am CDT
That Jazz still have way more paint than usual. That may be where the "compensation" come from. However, I would have loved to see an added action feature:
Mod Jazz so he can separate in two from the waist. On both ends of the halves, standard 5mm ports can then pop out. The SS Megs can hold both Jazz halves by reproducing that iconic scene. Despite being the ROTF version of Megs.
Mod Jazz so he can separate in two from the waist. On both ends of the halves, standard 5mm ports can then pop out. The SS Megs can hold both Jazz halves by reproducing that iconic scene. Despite being the ROTF version of Megs.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969664)
Posted by TulioDude on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:01pm CDT
Jazz looks nice!
About the size things,I've always assumed the plastic that the figures like Bumblebee or Jazz went to the leader class toys like Blackout or Grimlock.
About the size things,I've always assumed the plastic that the figures like Bumblebee or Jazz went to the leader class toys like Blackout or Grimlock.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969945)
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT
The latest wave of Studio Series deluxes is slowly appearing in the US. While a few have said to have seen them, Cprime18 is the first to contact us with photographic evidence. These two were found at a Target in San Antonio Texas. This wave is particularly infamous for the size discrepency between the two toys with Lockdown being the same height as a Generations deluxe and Jazz being far smaller than that. For more size comparisons, feel free to check out our pictorial review of Jazz to see if this is a toy you find worth the money.
If you already have these toys, please let us know your thoughts on them and if you find them, be sure to let the community know through your local sightings threads or the sightings section.
If you already have these toys, please let us know your thoughts on them and if you find them, be sure to let the community know through your local sightings threads or the sightings section.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1969957)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 10th, 2018 @ 8:03am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 10th, 2018 @ 8:03am CDT
Jazz is ridiculously small, but he does look good. The paint is especially nice.
Lockdown looks great but I just can't get behind a Lockdown figure that isn't absurdly tall in robot mode. Good looking figure though, not gonna deny.
Lockdown looks great but I just can't get behind a Lockdown figure that isn't absurdly tall in robot mode. Good looking figure though, not gonna deny.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970695)
Posted by Va'al on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:06am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:06am CDT
Via regular source of news Loopaza Megastore on Facebook, we have some new listings for Takara Tomy Transformers figures due out in September to December, including the Studio Series line, the Movie Masterpiece one and some Bumblebee Movie figures thrown into the mix, as we knew already from previous news coverage. Some of the names and numbers showing up below are recognisable, but the rest are very much up to speculation and rumour-mongering. So join the discussion and let us know what you think!
Takaratomy Transformers
We've received new details of the coming up Takaratomy Transformers line-up. The most interesting is the coming of MPM-6 & MPM-7, both still named "unknown character" on the listing but fans should noticed that MPM-6 is Ironhide. So what is actually MPM-7? Rumor from the US that will possible be Jazz but Nothing in this point just yet.
There are also new code MV6 on the list will two characters, one is Optimus Prime and one is Bumblebee. looks like they will be the toys figures from the New Bumblebee Movie! and both will scheduled to release in October is Japanese side.
There are also some others Transformers characters in number 13 - 18, they should be the Studio Series, 13 & 17 are unknown characters, 14 is Ratchet ( DOTM ver.?), 15 is Ironhide, 16 is Bumblebee (2007 ver.?), 18 is Starscream (ROTF ver. ?)
#takaratomy #transformers
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970697)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:28am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:28am CDT
Yay, lots of new Studio figures look forward to even if we are getting more into repaint territory.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970700)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:53am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 5:53am CDT
We always knew repaints were coming sooner or later. Still hopefully they'll be coming with new backdrops as well
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970704)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 13th, 2018 @ 6:06am CDT
I expect RotF Starscream to come with the same backdrop pic as Megatron and Prime have done already but that kinda makes sense since they were all involved in that forest battle and I'm still gonna buy that Screamer anyways cos I love the mold and want that toy with the tattoos I like a lot too and the buzzsaw.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 13th, 2018 @ 6:06am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:We always knew repaints were coming sooner or later. Still hopefully they'll be coming with new backdrops as well
I expect RotF Starscream to come with the same backdrop pic as Megatron and Prime have done already but that kinda makes sense since they were all involved in that forest battle and I'm still gonna buy that Screamer anyways cos I love the mold and want that toy with the tattoos I like a lot too and the buzzsaw.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970706)
Posted by Emerje on July 13th, 2018 @ 6:14am CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 13th, 2018 @ 6:14am CDT
That's an awful lot of stuff coming out all at once in October for Japanese fans. Glad Hasbro spreads things out a little more.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970770)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2018 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2018 @ 11:52am CDT
A really quick note about the numbering in the listing: they may use the TakaraTomy numbering and not the Hasbro one. TakaraTomy's is offset by 1 starting with 09 (Thundercracker), and by 2 starting with 19 (Bumblebee + Dino Cassettes) pending other exclusives.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970792)
Posted by Overcracker on July 13th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
No doubt its Takara's numbering, since Hasbro's 13 is Megatron, and Takara has already released him as 11.
So that mystery 13 is something else.
And seeing 14 as another Ratchet, and 18 another starscream, it seems Takara is doing its own thing now which we may not get in Hasbro's line at all or if we do it will have a very different number.
Posted by Overcracker on July 13th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A really quick note about the numbering in the listing: they may use the TakaraTomy numbering and not the Hasbro one. TakaraTomy's is offset by 1 starting with 09 (Thundercracker), and by 2 starting with 19 (Bumblebee + Dino Cassettes) pending other exclusives.
No doubt its Takara's numbering, since Hasbro's 13 is Megatron, and Takara has already released him as 11.
So that mystery 13 is something else.
And seeing 14 as another Ratchet, and 18 another starscream, it seems Takara is doing its own thing now which we may not get in Hasbro's line at all or if we do it will have a very different number.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970793)
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Greetings All,
While I am not collecting these toys, I am quite fascinated by the numbering system. I was just wondering however...
On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream? (which I imagine would get its own number, even if it is a straight up repaint) or is this just an error on unicron.com ?
While I am not collecting these toys, I am quite fascinated by the numbering system. I was just wondering however...
On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream? (which I imagine would get its own number, even if it is a straight up repaint) or is this just an error on unicron.com ?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970799)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:04pm CDT
Yeah, I wrote an article about it:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... bel/41092/
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:04pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:On unicron.com, there is currently an entry for a "Revenge of the Fallen" deco of Starscream, however its not numbered, and only shows the same picture as #6 (Movie 1 Voyager Starscream). Has there been any confirmation, or rumor that there will be a RotF Deco Starscream?
Yeah, I wrote an article about it:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... bel/41092/
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970808)
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:18pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:18pm CDT
^Awesome, Thank you. I guess nothing on the 
side has been confirmed yet, as far as numbers being assigned (other than #19 as an exclusive for the BB Movie)
As for
their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.
side has been confirmed yet, as far as numbers being assigned (other than #19 as an exclusive for the BB Movie)As for
their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970817)
Posted by Va'al on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:34pm CDT
Hasbro and Takara Tomy are releasing the same exact figures now. We have heard no news on the contrary since the unification!
Posted by Va'al on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:34pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:^Awesome, Thank you. I guess nothing on the
As for
their number system and price points on that above print out don't seem to make sense with what's been released up to this point.
Hasbro and Takara Tomy are releasing the same exact figures now. We have heard no news on the contrary since the unification!
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970825)
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CDT
So is getting Thundercracker?
is getting Thundercracker?
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970827)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:51pm CDT
Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:51pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:So
Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970839)
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CDT
Wait, really? I cant belive I forgot that
Posted by william-james88 on July 13th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:o.supreme wrote:So
Yup, as a non-exclusive to boot!
Wait, really? I cant belive I forgot that
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970907)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 4:30pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2018 @ 4:30pm CDT
I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.
it's listed as release number 9 in their release list.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1970983)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2018 @ 10:49pm CDT
That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:
1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout
9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)
10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)
14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"
19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???
21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)
Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.
Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 13th, 2018 @ 10:49pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it
That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:
1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout
9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)
10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)
14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"
19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???
21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)
Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.
Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1971010)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 14th, 2018 @ 2:04am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 14th, 2018 @ 2:04am CDT
Now I am confused as I looked at tformers 
Plus the evidence in potp that they are getting non-exclusive nem and wreck gar would suggest that thundercracker is not going to be a problem.
Plus the evidence in potp that they are getting non-exclusive nem and wreck gar would suggest that thundercracker is not going to be a problem.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1971011)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 14th, 2018 @ 2:21am CDT
Store exclusives are fair game like all regular retail items, but releasing them and how is still up to TakaraTomy's discretion and how they can find proper venues.
Main point remains the toys themselves have no differences between the two companies, that's the only thing the whole streamlining has done. The lines are not treated the same, to take PotP again as an example, the toys were released out of order, with the complete combiner teams released in single waves and the retools at the very end of the line.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 14th, 2018 @ 2:21am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Now I am confused as I looked at tformers
Store exclusives are fair game like all regular retail items, but releasing them and how is still up to TakaraTomy's discretion and how they can find proper venues.
Main point remains the toys themselves have no differences between the two companies, that's the only thing the whole streamlining has done. The lines are not treated the same, to take PotP again as an example, the toys were released out of order, with the complete combiner teams released in single waves and the retools at the very end of the line.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Jazz (1971095)
Posted by Overcracker on July 14th, 2018 @ 11:53am CDT
As I said, In Takara´s line:
SS-11 is Megatron. Hasbro´s 13
SS-12 is Brawl same as Hasbro
Posted by Overcracker on July 14th, 2018 @ 11:53am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I has to double check myself then to make sure I hadnt dreamt it
That makes... no sense. OK, just we're all on the same page, here's the list compiled by yours truly, with some educated guesses here and there:
1 / SS-01 Bumblebee (TF 2007)
2 / SS-02 Decepticon Stinger
3 / SS-03 Crowbar
4 / SS-04 Autobot Ratchet (TF 2007)
5 / SS-05 Optimus Prime (RotF)
6 / SS-06 Starscream (TF 2007)
7 / SS-07 Grimlock
8 / SS-08 Blackout
9 / (N/A) Thundercracker (TRU Exclusive)
10 / SS-09 Autobot Jazz
11 / SS-10 Lockdown
12 / SS-11 Decepticon Brawl
13 / SS-12 Megatron (RotF)
14 / SS-13 "Character A"
15 / SS-14 Ratchet (DotM?)
16 / SS-15 Ironhide
17 / SS-16 Bumblebee (Bumblebee movie?)
18 / SS-17 "Character B"
19 / (N/A) Bumblebee Vol. 1 with Diaru and Uruaz (SDCC 2018)
20 / (N/A) ???
21 / SS-18 Starscream (RotF, as leaked)
Standalone number is Hasbro's, the SS one is TakaraTomy. No number (N/A) means no release yet.
Not saying Thundercracker could never see release in Japan, it's just we haven't heard anything about that. TakaraTomy still does its own thing with the toys, it's just that there are no appreciable differences anymore.
As I said, In Takara´s line:
SS-11 is Megatron. Hasbro´s 13
SS-12 is Brawl same as Hasbro
