Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline
Sunday, March 25th, 2018 1:37PM CDT
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A lot of fans have wanted a Generations voyager Shockwave for a while, and the new Cyber Battalion Shockwave that just came out (in Taiwan and the US) is really close. But is he close enough? How does he look like in a Classics/Generations collection? Well, hopefully we will answer your questions with this post. Several fans found this toy at Walgreens already (though he is still very sparse and commanding high secondary market prices) and have posted images online. Below you will find images from TF fans LastActionBastard and allew, who posted them on the TFW2005 boards. You can even see a fan made gun mode, which would help fans wondering if such a mode was achievable.
We also found a pictorial review from Robots78, who posted it on TFW2005's boards, and which you can read below:
We also found a pictorial review from Robots78, who posted it on TFW2005's boards, and which you can read below:
Robots78 wrote:I found Cyber Battalion Shockwave tonight at Walgreens and figured I'd post some pics and impressions.
Overall, I like this figure. It has serious problems, but the bot mode has such good presence that I can overlook them.
Let's start with the alt mode. It's a sad "spaceship" where the legs are pressed together to form something reminiscent of Shockwave's classic laser gun barrel, while the chest folds down, the head tucks away and the arms just sort of hang out.
There is a little landing skid under the front that I neglected to fold out, which would lift the front end up a bit.
As we switch modes here, I wanted to point out that the instructions are printed on the back of the box instead of being on a separate piece of paper, and they're MUCH easier to read than the gray-on-gray diagrams we get with Generations figures.
The robot mode is much more successful. This is a great rendition of G1 Shockwave. The sculpt is very faithful to the original, the proportions are nice, and the colors are perfect. The few tampos used are high quality, especially his Decepticon symbol, however the paint on the cyclops eye on my copy was a bit messed up.
Yes, the back of his lower legs are super-hollow, but that and the inside of his forearms are really the only hollow parts, which isn't too bad. His lack of a meaningful alt mode helps him have almost no backpack or other kibble.
Articulation is obviously where these Cyber Battalion figures really come up short, and Shockwave is no exception. The knees do not bend. It sucks, but since in the cartoon Shockwave mainly just stood around around saying "Yes, Lord Megatron", I can deal with it. His knees do swivel. His arms cannot reach back because they run into his backpack wings. But there's enough here to work with to get him into some decent standing poses.
The figure feels nice and solid. Plastics quality is good and he feels very durable. Joints were all good on my copy.
Size-wise, he's about perfect IMO. A solid voyager size that's a bit shorter than my Megatron (Hegemon) and Optimus (MP10-V), and a good counterpart for FoC Soundwave.
Here he is with some other Shockwave figures. The Cyber Battalion figure is far and away the most G1-inspired. He'll be replacing TFP Beast Hunters Shockwave in my CHUG display.
Because of it's limited possibility and weak alt mode, Cyber Battalion Shockwave is certainly not the "total package", and not the voyager-class Shockwave that CHUG collectors have been waiting for. But if you can accept its faults and are content with it pretty much just being a display piece in a relatively-static bot-mode pose, it's a great figure.
Credit(s): LastActionBastard, allew, and Robots78
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Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948216)
Posted by Blitzwing is bae on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CDT
Posted by Blitzwing is bae on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CDT
I never realized how small mp10 is!!! 
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948217)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron. Shockwave oughta be more like a head shorter than Megatron, like how the MPs size up to each other.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron. Shockwave oughta be more like a head shorter than Megatron, like how the MPs size up to each other.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948218)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:49pm CDT
I believe that's a scaled-down Voyager-sized KO.Blitzwing is bae wrote:I never realized how small mp10 is!!!
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948242)
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CDT
Went to my only local Walgreens Saturday hoping they'd have him, but all they had was Optimus, Bumblebee, and Jetfire (no Prowl), along with two clone sets, two Triggerhappys, a PotP Jazz and a PotP Slag. I'm a little doubtful they'll get him and Sideswipe with so much Christmas stock still hanging around.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948250)
Posted by Rated X on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CDT
I got a shockwave yesterday and I love him. Bring on the shapeways knees and leg fillers !
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948264)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 25th, 2018 @ 5:15pm CDT
They may cost as much or even more than the figure itself. However, they sure to be well worth it.
If I could have one myself without having to import it, I would mod it using the scraps I have on hand.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 25th, 2018 @ 5:15pm CDT
Rated X wrote:I got a shockwave yesterday and I love him. Bring on the shapeways knees and leg fillers !
They may cost as much or even more than the figure itself. However, they sure to be well worth it.
If I could have one myself without having to import it, I would mod it using the scraps I have on hand.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948298)
Posted by Shackwave71 on March 25th, 2018 @ 8:24pm CDT
In the Nineth pic, the TR Blitzwing (retool TR Megs) is on the far left, and Shockwave looks to be about a head shorter.
Posted by Shackwave71 on March 25th, 2018 @ 8:24pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron. Shockwave oughta be more like a head shorter than Megatron, like how the MPs size up to each other.
In the Nineth pic, the TR Blitzwing (retool TR Megs) is on the far left, and Shockwave looks to be about a head shorter.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948304)
Posted by JChewning on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:06pm CDT
Posted by JChewning on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:06pm CDT
Here he is with some fellow Decepticons.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948306)
Posted by Randomhero on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CDT
the guys in the back are standing on something. The Seeker mold isnt that short compared to him. that photo makes him look taller than he is. Blitzwing is standing on something to elevate him
Posted by Randomhero on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CDT
Shackwave71 wrote:Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron. Shockwave oughta be more like a head shorter than Megatron, like how the MPs size up to each other.
In the Nineth pic, the TR Blitzwing (retool TR Megs) is on the far left, and Shockwave looks to be about a head shorter.
the guys in the back are standing on something. The Seeker mold isnt that short compared to him. that photo makes him look taller than he is. Blitzwing is standing on something to elevate him
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948307)
Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CDT
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron.
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948310)
Posted by Skritz on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CDT
I really want one, given I need a Shockwave in my collection but odds are I'll hold up to the hope we get a Deluxe or Voyager one later in Generations.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948314)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:35pm CDT
There's still hope for Cyber Battalion Megatron, though.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2018 @ 10:35pm CDT
Errgh, still too tall.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron.
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
There's still hope for Cyber Battalion Megatron, though.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948317)
Posted by Randomhero on March 25th, 2018 @ 11:05pm CDT
its Shockwave. he should be tall. Most fictions depict him being able to hold his own against any autobot, Grimlock Optimus and even Megatron.
Posted by Randomhero on March 25th, 2018 @ 11:05pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Errgh, still too tall.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron.
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
There's still hope for Cyber Battalion Megatron, though.
its Shockwave. he should be tall. Most fictions depict him being able to hold his own against any autobot, Grimlock Optimus and even Megatron.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948363)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2018 @ 8:08am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2018 @ 8:08am CDT
...shorter than Megatron. His original toy was gargantuan, but he as a character wasn't.Randomhero wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Errgh, still too tall.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron.
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
There's still hope for Cyber Battalion Megatron, though.
its Shockwave. he should be tall. Most fictions depict him being
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948422)
Posted by Randomhero on March 26th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CDT
He defeated almost all the Autobots when he showed up, beat up Megatron and took over The Decepticons. That’s pretty big. The only fiction that depicted him being nothing was the cartoon everything else made in a star. And they depict him shorter usually. About the same height
Posted by Randomhero on March 26th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:...shorter than Megatron. His original toy was gargantuan, but he as a character wasn't.Randomhero wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Errgh, still too tall.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron.
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
There's still hope for Cyber Battalion Megatron, though.
its Shockwave. he should be tall. Most fictions depict him being
He defeated almost all the Autobots when he showed up, beat up Megatron and took over The Decepticons. That’s pretty big. The only fiction that depicted him being nothing was the cartoon everything else made in a star. And they depict him shorter usually. About the same height
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948423)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2018 @ 12:12pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2018 @ 12:12pm CDT
Why are you equating height with strength? He was always powerful, no one's saying otherwise. But he wasn't a juggernaut in size like Jetfire or Omega Supreme. He was a powerful but normal-sized guy.Randomhero wrote:Sabrblade wrote:...shorter than Megatron. His original toy was gargantuan, but he as a character wasn't.Randomhero wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Errgh, still too tall.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oof, he's taller than the Classics Megatron mold. Not a good sign.
Wonder how he sizes up to either Cyber Battalion Megatron or Titans Return Megatron.
Just go back one page
new-transformers-generations-cyber-series-line-t103590s950.php#p1946982
There's still hope for Cyber Battalion Megatron, though.
its Shockwave. he should be tall. Most fictions depict him being
He defeated almost all the Autobots when he showed up, beat up Megatron and took over The Decepticons. That’s pretty big. The only fiction that depicted him being nothing was the cartoon everything else made in a star. And they depict him shorter usually. About the same height
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948553)
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 27th, 2018 @ 12:26am CDT
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 27th, 2018 @ 12:26am CDT
I found these at Walmart, I think they are the bigger Authentics assortment, they had only these 3 models, Bee, Prime and Grimlock, they were $219 MXN, roughly $12 USD. I wanted to submit directly to news, but couldn't attach the photo there.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1948726)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 27th, 2018 @ 5:50pm CDT
Thank you for this, I am about to news it!
For reference, these are the Transformers: Authentics dudes, and you can find their thread, and your coming news story, over there! viewtopic.php?t=109854&p=1936040#p1936040
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 27th, 2018 @ 5:50pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:I found these at Walmart, I think they are the bigger Authentics assortment, they had only these 3 models, Bee, Prime and Grimlock, they were $219 MXN, roughly $12 USD. I wanted to submit directly to news, but couldn't attach the photo there.
Thank you for this, I am about to news it!
For reference, these are the Transformers: Authentics dudes, and you can find their thread, and your coming news story, over there! viewtopic.php?t=109854&p=1936040#p1936040
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1949653)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 31st, 2018 @ 5:58pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on March 31st, 2018 @ 5:58pm CDT
Hasbro thinks they're really slick!
If there was a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave, with articulation that was recently released would anyone care about this hollowed, stick figured mess????!
I love Shockwave the character but they're NOT suckering me as a collector with half-assed, low quality figures anymore!
If there was a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave, with articulation that was recently released would anyone care about this hollowed, stick figured mess????!
I love Shockwave the character but they're NOT suckering me as a collector with half-assed, low quality figures anymore!
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1949655)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2018 @ 6:09pm CDT
Just to point out the obvious:
---NOT meant for collectors.
---Aimed at young children.
---Mainly for the "poor" countries market.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 31st, 2018 @ 6:09pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Hasbro thinks they're really slick!
If there was a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave, with articulation that was recently released would anyone care about this hollowed, stick figured mess????!
I love Shockwave the character but they're NOT suckering me as a collector with half-assed, low quality figures anymore!
Just to point out the obvious:
---NOT meant for collectors.
---Aimed at young children.
---Mainly for the "poor" countries market.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950465)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2018 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2018 @ 9:37pm CDT
Friend of the site and Youtube reviewer Cdog Cdog has sent us 2 new reviews he has recorded: Cyber Battalion Sideswipe and Shockwave! We have had a pictorial review of Shockwave, but no video review yet, and Sideswipe has been hiding in the shadow of this seemingly very popular Shockwave and has yet to really have anything posted regarding him. Cdog shows off both figures in both modes as well as transformations and everything else you may need to know about them.
Both retail for around $20 and have been located in Walgreens, so if these figures interest you, head to one of the Walgreens stores and hunt them down! But for now, check out these reviews, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Both retail for around $20 and have been located in Walgreens, so if these figures interest you, head to one of the Walgreens stores and hunt them down! But for now, check out these reviews, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950468)
Posted by reluctantyouth on April 3rd, 2018 @ 9:59pm CDT
Posted by reluctantyouth on April 3rd, 2018 @ 9:59pm CDT
Picked up Shockwave at my local Walgreens in Peoria, Illinois around 9:30 pm Central on Easter. Had $5 in Walgreen points so got him for $13 and change... He isn't added to sightings or would have posted. Def worth $13 but not retail or Ebay scalper prices.
~Reluctantyouth~
~Reluctantyouth~
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950572)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on April 4th, 2018 @ 9:51am CDT
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on April 4th, 2018 @ 9:51am CDT
I wonder if we can get a G1 Jazz from that Sideswipe... Decent looking kids toys (for younger kids at least), especially that Shockwave 
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950626)
Posted by zodconvoy on April 4th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CDT
Posted by zodconvoy on April 4th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CDT
I got that Shockwave a few weeks ago and honestly, it's pretty close to perfect. All it's missing is knee articulation and it's the perfect Classics Shockwave just 11 years too late.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950627)
Posted by YoungPrime on April 4th, 2018 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on April 4th, 2018 @ 1:49pm CDT
I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950656)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2018 @ 2:35pm CDT
I actually don't think hasbro care if collectors buy it or not. This ticks all box for catering to less affluent children, far as they see it, who cares who buys it as long as it's bought. I think we're likely going to get a new Shockwave in the next three years. There's a 1 in 4 chance it will be in the size class you want
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2018 @ 2:35pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
I actually don't think hasbro care if collectors buy it or not. This ticks all box for catering to less affluent children, far as they see it, who cares who buys it as long as it's bought. I think we're likely going to get a new Shockwave in the next three years. There's a 1 in 4 chance it will be in the size class you want
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950667)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 4th, 2018 @ 2:48pm CDT
1 in 3, I don't think Legends Class will be redone any time soon, plus, it was to homage a particular G1 scene with Bruticus.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 4th, 2018 @ 2:48pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
I actually don't think hasbro care if collectors buy it or not. This ticks all box for catering to less affluent children, far as they see it, who cares who buys it as long as it's bought. I think we're likely going to get a new Shockwave in the next three years. There's a 1 in 4 chance it will be in the size class you want
1 in 3, I don't think Legends Class will be redone any time soon, plus, it was to homage a particular G1 scene with Bruticus.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950671)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2018 @ 2:50pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2018 @ 2:50pm CDT
Well that's even better odds then 
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950723)
Posted by wangson on April 4th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CDT
Posted by wangson on April 4th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CDT
Cyber Sideswipe has the same head design as MP-12 Masterpiece Lambor?!?!
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950732)
Posted by Emerje on April 4th, 2018 @ 5:49pm CDT
Shouldn't it? Both head sculpts are based on the original toy instead of the cartoon.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 4th, 2018 @ 5:49pm CDT
wangson wrote:Cyber Sideswipe has the same head design as MP-12 Masterpiece Lambor?!?!
Shouldn't it? Both head sculpts are based on the original toy instead of the cartoon.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950916)
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 11:35am CDT
I'm just asking for quality figures and if Hasbro is confident that more people will buy half@ssed crap like this then it will impact the other lines.
If you like this Cyber Series, then fine. Dismiss what I'm saying all you like but as far as Hasbro not caring, tell that to them during those Toy fair and Comic Conventions where the Hasbro panel is constantly thanking "US" for our support.
Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
So I think it's important to remind Hasbro that even children haven't given up on quality toys as of yet....
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 11:35am CDT
Is shutting me up in your best interest...?ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
I actually don't think hasbro care if collectors buy it or not. This ticks all box for catering to less affluent children, far as they see it, who cares who buys it as long as it's bought. I think we're likely going to get a new Shockwave in the next three years. There's a 1 in 4 chance it will be in the size class you want
I'm just asking for quality figures and if Hasbro is confident that more people will buy half@ssed crap like this then it will impact the other lines.
If you like this Cyber Series, then fine. Dismiss what I'm saying all you like but as far as Hasbro not caring, tell that to them during those Toy fair and Comic Conventions where the Hasbro panel is constantly thanking "US" for our support.
Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
So I think it's important to remind Hasbro that even children haven't given up on quality toys as of yet....
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950917)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2018 @ 11:37am CDT
Which kid goes to Walgreens to buy toys?
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2018 @ 11:37am CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
So I think it's important to remind Hasbro that even children haven't given up on quality toys as of yet....
Which kid goes to Walgreens to buy toys?
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950932)
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 12:24pm CDT
A child being dragged by his Mom to the Pharmacy section in the back that has to go through the "Toy aisle" that's strategically placed in a section that can't be avoided.
Hell even the restrooms at my local Wal-mart have a gauntlet of toy isles that you can't avoid in order to get there.
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 12:24pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
So I think it's important to remind Hasbro that even children haven't given up on quality toys as of yet....
Which kid goes to Walgreens to buy toys?
A child being dragged by his Mom to the Pharmacy section in the back that has to go through the "Toy aisle" that's strategically placed in a section that can't be avoided.
Hell even the restrooms at my local Wal-mart have a gauntlet of toy isles that you can't avoid in order to get there.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950933)
Posted by Rysquad on April 5th, 2018 @ 12:26pm CDT
Interesting - I've never seen that Starscream at Walgreen's.
Posted by Rysquad on April 5th, 2018 @ 12:26pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:
Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
Interesting - I've never seen that Starscream at Walgreen's.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950946)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 5th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT
Actually on the contrary I was just wanting you to realise who the toys were primarily for, and who they were designed for as I said (and was then corrected by jelze ) you have a 1 in 3 chance of getting the Shockwave you want in the next three years. If you want to campaign for better quality toys then go for it, just be prepared for more costs as the shareholders will not be prepared to lose profits just for our sake
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 5th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Is shutting me up in your best interest...?ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
I actually don't think hasbro care if collectors buy it or not. This ticks all box for catering to less affluent children, far as they see it, who cares who buys it as long as it's bought. I think we're likely going to get a new Shockwave in the next three years. There's a 1 in 4 chance it will be in the size class you want
I'm just asking for quality figures and if Hasbro is confident that more people will buy half@ssed crap like this then it will impact the other lines.
If you like this Cyber Series, then fine. Dismiss what I'm saying all you like but as far as Hasbro not caring, tell that to them during those Toy fair and Comic Conventions where the Hasbro panel is constantly thanking "US" for our support.
Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
So I think it's important to remind Hasbro that even children haven't given up on quality toys as of yet....
Actually on the contrary I was just wanting you to realise who the toys were primarily for, and who they were designed for
as I said (and was then corrected by jelze ) you have a 1 in 3 chance of getting the Shockwave you want in the next three years. If you want to campaign for better quality toys then go for it, just be prepared for more costs as the shareholders will not be prepared to lose profits just for our sake
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950954)
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2018 @ 1:38pm CDT
It would be rude if they stood in front of a bunch of collectors and said, "we'd like to thank all of the parents and children out there for making us boat loads of cash!" Of course they're thanking collectors in those cases, but it's a well known fact that collectors only account for a small part of Hasbro's profits. Just look at Generations, are fans really asking for everyone to be turned into Headmasters and combiners? Probably not the majority, but Hasbro knows they have a better chance of cross selling them to children if they make them gimmick and theme heavy, which in turn allows them to make more obscure characters.
You don't have to worry about a popular Cyber figure effecting Generations any more than you have to worry about Studio Series preventing us from getting any more Masterpiece Movie figures. Currently Hasbro likes to think of each line as a stepping stone for kids and sets age recommendations accordingly. They only care about what's happening within those ages, not across them.
3+ - Rescue Bots (specifically they say 3-7)
6+ - Robots in Disguise, Transformers Authentics, Cyber Battalion
8+ - Generations (including Prime Wars and movies), Studio Series, Masterpiece
This is what Hasbro cares about, what works within those ages. They don't discourage people buying outside of them, but they aren't going to dumb down something in a higher age bracket just because collectors liked one figure from a lower bracket. What they might do is notice which character has caught collectors' interest from the lower bracket and work from there because clearly that character is someone collectors want in a higher bracket and with the quality that comes with it.
And this isn't just throwing age ratings at the figures based on the number of parts or anything like that, this was something Hasbro intentionally devised a few years back as a longevity strategy specifically for Transformers. Prior to that Generations and TFPrime figures were all ages 5+. They even make fancy graphics for their investors like this one from last year:
Just have to have a little faith, they haven't done anything like what you're thinking before and they have even less reason to do it now.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2018 @ 1:38pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:If you like this Cyber Series, then fine. Dismiss what I'm saying all you like but as far as Hasbro not caring, tell that to them during those Toy fair and Comic Conventions where the Hasbro panel is constantly thanking "US" for our support.
It would be rude if they stood in front of a bunch of collectors and said, "we'd like to thank all of the parents and children out there for making us boat loads of cash!" Of course they're thanking collectors in those cases, but it's a well known fact that collectors only account for a small part of Hasbro's profits. Just look at Generations, are fans really asking for everyone to be turned into Headmasters and combiners? Probably not the majority, but Hasbro knows they have a better chance of cross selling them to children if they make them gimmick and theme heavy, which in turn allows them to make more obscure characters.
You don't have to worry about a popular Cyber figure effecting Generations any more than you have to worry about Studio Series preventing us from getting any more Masterpiece Movie figures. Currently Hasbro likes to think of each line as a stepping stone for kids and sets age recommendations accordingly. They only care about what's happening within those ages, not across them.
3+ - Rescue Bots (specifically they say 3-7)
6+ - Robots in Disguise, Transformers Authentics, Cyber Battalion
8+ - Generations (including Prime Wars and movies), Studio Series, Masterpiece
This is what Hasbro cares about, what works within those ages. They don't discourage people buying outside of them, but they aren't going to dumb down something in a higher age bracket just because collectors liked one figure from a lower bracket. What they might do is notice which character has caught collectors' interest from the lower bracket and work from there because clearly that character is someone collectors want in a higher bracket and with the quality that comes with it.
And this isn't just throwing age ratings at the figures based on the number of parts or anything like that, this was something Hasbro intentionally devised a few years back as a longevity strategy specifically for Transformers. Prior to that Generations and TFPrime figures were all ages 5+. They even make fancy graphics for their investors like this one from last year:
Just have to have a little faith, they haven't done anything like what you're thinking before and they have even less reason to do it now.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950968)
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CDT
You clearly haven't read any of my previous post on this matter. I have no doubt that there will be more Generations Shockwave's to follow. I'm even more certain that the next one to be released will be a Leader Class mold just to increase the "placeholder value" of this Cyber series version due to its scale.
This is what Hasbro doe$$$. It's done with adult collectors in mind and it's annoying!
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Is shutting me up in your best interest...?ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
I actually don't think hasbro care if collectors buy it or not. This ticks all box for catering to less affluent children, far as they see it, who cares who buys it as long as it's bought. I think we're likely going to get a new Shockwave in the next three years. There's a 1 in 4 chance it will be in the size class you want
I'm just asking for quality figures and if Hasbro is confident that more people will buy half@ssed crap like this then it will impact the other lines.
If you like this Cyber Series, then fine. Dismiss what I'm saying all you like but as far as Hasbro not caring, tell that to them during those Toy fair and Comic Conventions where the Hasbro panel is constantly thanking "US" for our support.
Meanwhile that previous wave of Cyber figures (StarScream and Prowl) have been collecting dust at my local Walgreen's in the clearance bin for over a year now.
So I think it's important to remind Hasbro that even children haven't given up on quality toys as of yet....
Actually on the contrary I was just wanting you to realise who the toys were primarily for, and who they were designed for
You clearly haven't read any of my previous post on this matter. I have no doubt that there will be more Generations Shockwave's to follow. I'm even more certain that the next one to be released will be a Leader Class mold just to increase the "placeholder value" of this Cyber series version due to its scale.
This is what Hasbro doe$$$. It's done with adult collectors in mind and it's annoying!
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950971)
Posted by Rated X on April 5th, 2018 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on April 5th, 2018 @ 2:30pm CDT
Im good with this shockwave for now. Its voyager. Im just hoping the shapeways guys are working on those knee joints and any other parts needed to make it fully transformable with the new knees.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950972)
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2018 @ 2:34pm CDT
If this is what Hasbro does then let's hear some examples. When did Hasbro make a figure in an unusual size just because they already made a figure in the appropriate size in an entirely different and unrelated line?
Besides, there are fans that WOULD want a Leader Shockwave to go with Leader Megatron, Soundwave, and the three Seeker Jets. Just because it's not what YOU want doesn't mean everyone shares your feelings.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2018 @ 2:34pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:You clearly haven't read any of my previous post on this matter. I have no doubt that there will be more Generations Shockwave's to follow. I'm even more certain that the next one to be released will be a Leader Class mold just to increase the "placeholder value" of this Cyber series version due to its scale.
This is what Hasbro doe$$$. It's done with adult collectors in mind and it's annoying!
If this is what Hasbro does then let's hear some examples. When did Hasbro make a figure in an unusual size just because they already made a figure in the appropriate size in an entirely different and unrelated line?
Besides, there are fans that WOULD want a Leader Shockwave to go with Leader Megatron, Soundwave, and the three Seeker Jets. Just because it's not what YOU want doesn't mean everyone shares your feelings.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950974)
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CDT
That goes both ways and doesn't change anything I've stated so far, soooooo....Emerje wrote:YoungPrime wrote:You clearly haven't read any of my previous post on this matter. I have no doubt that there will be more Generations Shockwave's to follow. I'm even more certain that the next one to be released will be a Leader Class mold just to increase the "placeholder value" of this Cyber series version due to its scale.
This is what Hasbro doe$$$. It's done with adult collectors in mind and it's annoying!
Besides, there are fans that WOULD want a Leader Shockwave to go with Leader Megatron, Soundwave, and the three Seeker Jets. Just because it's not what YOU want doesn't mean everyone shares your feelings.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1950979)
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
There's a guy in my State who's good with modding and adding 3P upgrades to lackluster figures. He post on another TF site with pictures that changed my reluctance with TR Galvatron so I did offer to pick one up for him and mail it to him which he'd reimburse if he doesn't find one in the meantime.
The hollowness and the absent knee joints are the deal breakers for me so I'd really like to see what he does to resolve it.
Posted by YoungPrime on April 5th, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Im good with this shockwave for now. Its voyager. Im just hoping the shapeways guys are working on those knee joints and any other parts needed to make it fully transformable with the new knees.
There's a guy in my State who's good with modding and adding 3P upgrades to lackluster figures. He post on another TF site with pictures that changed my reluctance with TR Galvatron so I did offer to pick one up for him and mail it to him which he'd reimburse if he doesn't find one in the meantime.
The hollowness and the absent knee joints are the deal breakers for me so I'd really like to see what he does to resolve it.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951086)
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2018 @ 9:21pm CDT
Like I'm going to just because you don't like what I have to say. You weren't saying it goes both ways when you just said Leader Shockwave would be the wrong scale and Hasbro would do it just to screw with fans.
And you still didn't give an example of Hasbro doing that before, yet you were quick to remove that part from my quote as if I was going to forget. I guess you can't, there goes your whole argument against the Cyber Shockwave figure.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2018 @ 9:21pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:That goes both ways and doesn't change anything I've stated so far, soooooo....Emerje wrote:YoungPrime wrote:You clearly haven't read any of my previous post on this matter. I have no doubt that there will be more Generations Shockwave's to follow. I'm even more certain that the next one to be released will be a Leader Class mold just to increase the "placeholder value" of this Cyber series version due to its scale.
This is what Hasbro doe$$$. It's done with adult collectors in mind and it's annoying!
Besides, there are fans that WOULD want a Leader Shockwave to go with Leader Megatron, Soundwave, and the three Seeker Jets. Just because it's not what YOU want doesn't mean everyone shares your feelings.
Emerje
Like I'm going to
just because you don't like what I have to say. You weren't saying it goes both ways when you just said Leader Shockwave would be the wrong scale and Hasbro would do it just to screw with fans. And you still didn't give an example of Hasbro doing that before, yet you were quick to remove that part from my quote as if I was going to forget. I guess you can't, there goes your whole argument against the Cyber Shockwave figure.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951243)
Posted by CdogCdog4 on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:05pm CDT
Heh it's funny you mention that bc 2 days ago I was watching TV with Sideswipe in my lap (along with Takara Legends Series Sixshot) & I was thinking that Jazz would be the obvious next choice for the line using that buck/transformation. Another idea I had was if they remolded and recolored the Grimlock (in my Cyber Battalion playlist you can see how awesome he is if you don't know. And every other Cyber Battalion release as well). But I think they need to remolded both heads (dino & bot)
Posted by CdogCdog4 on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:05pm CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:I wonder if we can get a G1 Jazz from that Sideswipe... Decent looking kids toys (for younger kids at least), especially that Shockwave
Heh it's funny you mention that bc 2 days ago I was watching TV with Sideswipe in my lap (along with Takara Legends Series Sixshot) & I was thinking that Jazz would be the obvious next choice for the line using that buck/transformation. Another idea I had was if they remolded and recolored the Grimlock (in my Cyber Battalion playlist you can see how awesome he is if you don't know. And every other Cyber Battalion release as well). But I think they need to remolded both heads (dino & bot)
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951246)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CDT
I think Porshe don't like money like Wolsvagen and still refuse to give any licences to
. So if a "G1" Jazz is made, it will only be a "Porch-ish" car.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CDT
CdogCdog4 wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:I wonder if we can get a G1 Jazz from that Sideswipe... Decent looking kids toys (for younger kids at least), especially that Shockwave
Heh it's funny you mention that bc 2 days ago I was watching TV with Sideswipe in my lap (along with Takara Legends Series Sixshot) & I was thinking that Jazz would be the obvious next choice for the line using that buck/transformation. Another idea I had was if they remolded and recolored the Grimlock (in my Cyber Battalion playlist you can see how awesome he is if you don't know. And every other Cyber Battalion release as well). But I think they need to remolded both heads (dino & bot)
I think Porshe don't like money like Wolsvagen and still refuse to give any licences to
. So if a "G1" Jazz is made, it will only be a "Porch-ish" car.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951248)
Posted by CdogCdog4 on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
If your suggesting Hasbro won't make Generations Classics figures over these Cybers being made exactly how they are mnow, i believe your wrong. Because if they do decide to make these instead, you can bet your ass they will have knees. The knees are missing to differentiate the lines. As it is, they still give them enough joints to pose their legs (ankles hips) & If they put knees in on these hard plastic larger Battalion figures, then the cheaper plastic, articulated figures, wouldn't sell as mu. Hasbro COULD put knees in but they are choosing not to and the ones that DO have knees, it's always a semi loose swivel joint that won't hold poses in most of the surface area that it swivels on. I CAN get poses, but not easily aND it won't hold securely. But if it became one of their main lines they'd have knees.
Posted by CdogCdog4 on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
If your suggesting Hasbro won't make Generations Classics figures over these Cybers being made exactly how they are mnow, i believe your wrong. Because if they do decide to make these instead, you can bet your ass they will have knees. The knees are missing to differentiate the lines. As it is, they still give them enough joints to pose their legs (ankles hips) & If they put knees in on these hard plastic larger Battalion figures, then the cheaper plastic, articulated figures, wouldn't sell as mu. Hasbro COULD put knees in but they are choosing not to and the ones that DO have knees, it's always a semi loose swivel joint that won't hold poses in most of the surface area that it swivels on. I CAN get poses, but not easily aND it won't hold securely. But if it became one of their main lines they'd have knees.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951251)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:32pm CDT
In the first case, that was one delicious bait.
But if it's the later, I still can't beleives some fans STILL think that way in current year.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:32pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:I'm still giving this a thumbs down because if Hasbro's confident that even collectors will buy this cheap, hollow, stick figured mess then they'll continue making them instead REAL Generations figures with articulation.
In the first case, that was one delicious bait.
But if it's the later, I still can't beleives some fans STILL think that way in current year.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951252)
Posted by Overcracker on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:38pm CDT
Porsche is owned by Volkswagen so....
VW has recently opened up a bit about licensing their vehicles. As such we did get MP Bumblebee, and are getting a VW bug Bumblebee for the Bee Movie. So, licensing Jazz's alt mode does not seem out of the question.
Though the specific racing version with the sponsors may a bit harder.
However, since these figures aren't actually licensed vehicles, there's no reason not to have a Jazz figure simply because Hasbro cannot license the Porsche vehicle mode.
It's not like Sideswipe in this line is a licensed Lamborghini. It's just a generic red sports car.
Takara on the other hand is taking its sweet time with an MP Jazz for some reason.
Posted by Overcracker on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:38pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:CdogCdog4 wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:I wonder if we can get a G1 Jazz from that Sideswipe... Decent looking kids toys (for younger kids at least), especially that Shockwave
Heh it's funny you mention that bc 2 days ago I was watching TV with Sideswipe in my lap (along with Takara Legends Series Sixshot) & I was thinking that Jazz would be the obvious next choice for the line using that buck/transformation. Another idea I had was if they remolded and recolored the Grimlock (in my Cyber Battalion playlist you can see how awesome he is if you don't know. And every other Cyber Battalion release as well). But I think they need to remolded both heads (dino & bot)
I think Porshe don't like money like Wolsvagen and still refuse to give any licences to
Porsche is owned by Volkswagen so....
VW has recently opened up a bit about licensing their vehicles. As such we did get MP Bumblebee, and are getting a VW bug Bumblebee for the Bee Movie. So, licensing Jazz's alt mode does not seem out of the question.
Though the specific racing version with the sponsors may a bit harder.
However, since these figures aren't actually licensed vehicles, there's no reason not to have a Jazz figure simply because Hasbro cannot license the Porsche vehicle mode.
It's not like Sideswipe in this line is a licensed Lamborghini. It's just a generic red sports car.
Takara on the other hand is taking its sweet time with an MP Jazz for some reason.
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951256)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 6th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CDT
So that mean all hopes are not lost for MP Jazz. Good.
Also, something like this would be good enough for the Cyber Series:
Also, something like this would be good enough for the Cyber Series:
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1951337)
Posted by Emerje on April 7th, 2018 @ 12:11am CDT
As long as he looks a little like this with articulation:
I'll be happy. He can hang out with Authentics Bravo Grimlock and PotP Starscream. If only we had a Voyager-sized Bumblebee in his G1 design.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 7th, 2018 @ 12:11am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:So that mean all hopes are not lost for MP Jazz. Good.
Also, something like this would be good enough for the Cyber Series:
As long as he looks a little like this with articulation:
I'll be happy. He can hang out with Authentics Bravo Grimlock and PotP Starscream. If only we had a Voyager-sized Bumblebee in his G1 design.
Emerje
Re: Pictorial Review of Generations Shockwave from Cyber Battalion Subline (1979579)
Posted by notsoalex on August 20th, 2018 @ 11:17pm CDT
Posted by notsoalex on August 20th, 2018 @ 11:17pm CDT
A while back, Hasbro introduced the Cyber Series, a line which aimed to make Transformers toys as big and sturdy as possible while making them as cheap as possible. This line is also referred to as "Generations Cyber Battalion Series" by some fans. Sadly, many of these toys had a limited release, especially in the United States, where only a few made it into Walgreens stores.
There were two Cyber Commanders (well three, there were two versions of Optimus Prime), Leader Class sized figures for about $30.
Well now, Cyber Commander Bumblebee and Optimus Prime are now up for preorder on Entertainment Earth for $19.99 USD!
This is great for collectors and fans for the line, as now they can buy both of them while saving money and not giving in to scalpers!
They'll start sending out in next month, so if you want these guys, better buy 'em now!
Please note that the Optimus Prime on sale appears to be the redeco that's slightly inspired by the movies.
So you planning to snag 'em? let us now in the Pub Forums down below!
There were two Cyber Commanders (well three, there were two versions of Optimus Prime), Leader Class sized figures for about $30.
Well now, Cyber Commander Bumblebee and Optimus Prime are now up for preorder on Entertainment Earth for $19.99 USD!
This is great for collectors and fans for the line, as now they can buy both of them while saving money and not giving in to scalpers!
They'll start sending out in next month, so if you want these guys, better buy 'em now!
Please note that the Optimus Prime on sale appears to be the redeco that's slightly inspired by the movies.
So you planning to snag 'em? let us now in the Pub Forums down below!
