Pictorial Review for Transformers Cyberverse Scout Megatron
Tuesday, July 24th, 2018 10:33PM CDT
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However, any excitement soon died down when we realized something several fans are still coming to terms with: he does not fully transform. In fact none of the scout class Transformers in this line transform fully. They go from robot to mid transformation. But it could work right? Maybe? Well let's see.
So firstly, looking at the robot mode I will admit that it looks fine. He looks the part and there is some paint to convey the details, but that's basically it in terms of positives. The articulation is lacking since the all you get are the 4 articulation points of the most basic Stars Wars figures. So only a static pose works here.
While fans have called these action masters (for reasons we will get into soon), I think the best comparison would be to the Jumpstarters since they are also very limited in articulation and are centered around a gimmick with an overly simple transformation that doesn't result in anything I would call a decent alt mode.
Now, for "transformation", all you do is have him in a sitting pose and unfold the legs and there you go!
What I find saddest of all here is that the tank treads don't even look good. It turns out the tank tread detail we see in robot mode is only for the robot mode and the actual tank treads are on the flip side, which looks like inner bot detail. I was wondering if there was a way to rotate the flap and see the other side instead, which looks more the part, but no.
You do get an action feature where you can turn the torso, which locks, and then squeeze his tank treads to have him spin and flip out his energy mace. I will admit, it works fine. If you know what you are getting into, then this toy does the job it promises to do (flip out a mace) but I don't see why that would be more important for a Transformers toy to do than actually transform.
At least the package art makes this look kinda cool:
In the end, I do not recommend this toy, especially not when it is about $10 ($4-$5 would make more sense for how limiting the play options are). Your young kids are better off with one steps, which at least give them a Transformers experience, no matter how simple, where you at least get the notion of two toys in one.
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Posted by X3ROhour on July 24th, 2018 @ 10:55pm CDT
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
the whole line seems steeped in warm crap.
usually i hold my judgement for more input and info,
but...
COME ON!!!!
on the upside...
my wallet can take a breather
Posted by DISCHARGE on July 24th, 2018 @ 11:26pm CDT
Seeing them in person, they are indeed covered in weak sauce
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 25th, 2018 @ 1:24am CDT
Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
the whole line seems steeped in warm crap.
usually i hold my judgement for more input and info,
but...
COME ON!!!!
on the upside...
my wallet can take a breather
happymeal toy was my first thought
i dont think happymeal toys are this horrible
as for gimmick all i see is a sad attempt at one
hasbro execs must think kids are stupid to by into a transformer that half transforms
this is below even 1 or 2 step transformers this is like half step
and its an insult to jumpsarters to even try to compare it
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 25th, 2018 @ 1:37am CDT
william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:Sorry william-james88,but I agree with the other guys on this topic.There's no way you will get me to agree that Cyberverse is better than the Cyber Battalion one.
I prfer the simple spaceship resembling his G1 gun mode,than a walking on all fours mode.
I dont think its the worst toy ever,but the way you trash the Cyber battalion is baffling to me.
Have you guys handled the cyber battalion toys? Or tried posing them? That line is incredibly lacking. For the same price, we get the Ultra shockwave which seems to have as much quality as the Prime Voyager from a few years back with similar articulation. I am equally baffled by those preffering a budget line upscaled toy specifically made for developping countries.
Plus, looking at the alt mode, neither are great, but at least the exposed limbs for cyberverse are the limbs of the tank rather than the arms in the cyber battalion doing nothing.
I also find it incredibly belittling and immature of people in this thread to present hyperbolic images of people in weird poses when the alt mode (while admittedly not the best) is an actual legit thing
And one we already had in Transformers
I am not saying this toy is great, but it will do the job fine and I think it will do a better job than the cyber battalion if only due to the better articulation and less hollow/light feel
You guys can be the judge when you get them in hand. In any case, I already made my top 5 Shockwave list and neither seem good enough to replace any entries.
if they made that shockwave look like any of those sure, but it doesnt come close
instead it barely transforms into an attempt at one
Posted by Nexus Knight on July 25th, 2018 @ 3:01am CDT
Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 25th, 2018 @ 4:45am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 25th, 2018 @ 4:53am CDT
Posted by Giant Purple Griffin on July 25th, 2018 @ 8:21am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2018 @ 8:52am CDT
Giant Purple Griffin wrote:I assumed the half-transformed battle mode was just that, not that it was the only alt-mode. I'm usually pretty easy to please, but I just don't get the thought process behind these at all.
Yeah, many of us assumed that, but sadly its not the case for any of these scout figures. They even made art for that funky alt mode:
ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks will for taking one for the team and actually buying one of the scout class (you did only buy one right?)
Yes dont worry, its the only one i got. Curiosity got the better of me.
Nexus Knight wrote:
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.
They do. Their robot modes arent as nice but they fully transform and have a wind up mechanism.
However, that is long ago and current happy meal toys are just static bricks with no playability. I would be happy getting this Megatron in a happy meal (but I wouldnt want it from anywhere else).
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on July 25th, 2018 @ 2:16pm CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.
I own them all too, and they are alot more fun. But someone said that they had windup mechanisms, and I will say that they don't. The french ones do, but not the american ones that I have
Posted by no-one on July 25th, 2018 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.
I own them all too, and they are alot more fun. But someone said that they had windup mechanisms, and I will say that they don't. The french ones do, but not the american ones that I have
Even Hot Shot? this youtube review shows hot shot being able to wind up and go:
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2018 @ 4:40pm CDT
Armada =/= Animated.william-james88 wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.
I own them all too, and they are alot more fun. But someone said that they had windup mechanisms, and I will say that they don't. The french ones do, but not the american ones that I have
Even Hot Shot? this youtube review shows hot shot being able to wind up and go:
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2018 @ 4:51pm CDT
:EDIT: Here they are, spotted at Target McKinney, JCT US 75 & US 380:
These are out:
One-Step Changers
Scout Class
Ultra Class
Ultimate Class
The Warrior Class are still MIA. Of note, the Ultimate Class scanned at $29.99, so they are in the system.
Posted by Skritz on July 25th, 2018 @ 5:07pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 25th, 2018 @ 5:22pm CDT
Skritz wrote:You know, the sad thing is: those aren't inherently hideous designs. If anything they remind me a whole lot Animated. The difference being, here, that Animated toys looked good.
Take a time machine and look at the forum posts at the time of Animated and the first Bay movie. I'm pretty sure "EVERYONE" hated the designs. Much drama, "muh geewun".
Cyberverse is not worst looking than animated. At all.... when viewed directly from the front, that is. Give the Cyberverse the quality and engeneering of standard Transformers, and I'm pretty sure most people would LOVE them. But eh, we have to deal with what we have now... by voting with our wallet.
Posted by Skritz on July 25th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Skritz wrote:You know, the sad thing is: those aren't inherently hideous designs. If anything they remind me a whole lot Animated. The difference being, here, that Animated toys looked good.
Take a time machine and look at the forum posts at the time of Animated and the first Bay movie. I'm pretty sure "EVERYONE" hated the designs. Much drama, "muh geewun".
Cyberverse is not worst looking than animated. At all.... when viewed directly from the front, that is. Give the Cyberverse the quality and engeneering of standard Transformers, and I'm pretty sure most people would LOVE them. But eh, we have to deal with what we have now... by voting with our wallet.
The engineering is certainly worse than Animated and that was the point I'm making: had the figure been actually good I'm sure a lot of people would be all over those Animated-G1 hybrid design if their Deluxes were on par with Generations, at least.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 25th, 2018 @ 6:39pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2018 @ 8:12pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Armada =/= Animated.william-james88 wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:weak sauce
sad, garbage, barely a transformer
heck,
its barely a friggin Happy Meal toy.
Having once owned the entire line of the transforming Transformers: Animated Happy Meal toys, they had more play value than what I see here.
I own them all too, and they are alot more fun. But someone said that they had windup mechanisms, and I will say that they don't. The french ones do, but not the american ones that I have
Even Hot Shot? this youtube review shows hot shot being able to wind up and go:
Oh wow, I have been reading Armada this whole time.
Please ignore all my previous replies. And Jelze, thanks a bunch would you mind sending an e-mail to the news team with a link to your post so that someone can get to it?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 25th, 2018 @ 8:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:And Jelze, thanks a bunch would you mind sending an e-mail to the news team with a link to your post so that someone can get to it?
Done
Posted by Qwan on July 25th, 2018 @ 9:08pm CDT
Ultra Class Bumblebee, Grimlock and Starscream, and Ultimate Class Megatron and Optimus Prime, were all sighted at a Target in McKinney, TX. JelZe reports the Ultimate Class toys scanning at $29.99 US.
Corroborating this sighting, we also have a second one from user Cdavid3, who found Ultimate Megatron and Optimus at a Target in San Jose, CA.
Check out the images below, and if you find these figures be sure to post in the Energon Pub Forums and the Sightings Section to let other fans know. And as always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers news and sightings!
Posted by steve2275 on July 25th, 2018 @ 9:26pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on July 25th, 2018 @ 11:31pm CDT
Transformers Cyberverse products - Now with over 235+ images!
Posted by WreckerJack on July 26th, 2018 @ 1:20am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 26th, 2018 @ 11:27am CDT
The tagline? Get More Whoa. Keeping in mind the younger audience of both the animated series due this fall, and the target of the toys themselves, you can imagine this may still be an exaggeration. Still, check out the clip below, and let us know what you think of the toys if you have one in hand already!
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 26th, 2018 @ 2:03pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on July 26th, 2018 @ 6:40pm CDT
His Alt Mode is a cop-out but there is SOME transformation with the front limbs rotating and I like that his alt mode has its own cannon as opposed to Shockwave just using the same gun in both modes, something I always hate (What's the point in transforming if he has the same junk in both modes). Some people have tossed out Beast Wars' penchant for the limbs-as-limbs tactic so I'm kinda used to it by now.
The robot mode is stylized but not too bad. Like other people have said, I'm not to keen on the angry eye. On the plus side, I do like the backpack gimmick and he does have a decent range of poseabilty except for the head which really bugs me just because it's so inexplicable. As much as I think Cyber Series Shockwave looks better, the lack of articulation is annoying.
I should mention that I almost picked up Starscream too, but the lack of knees killed it for me. Shockwave is the only figure in the line that I found an interest in.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 26th, 2018 @ 6:49pm CDT
But Ultimate Optimus Prime here actually appears to be quite a decent figure, at least according to Chuck. The figure itself has pretty good posability and a pretty neat gimmick that works in both modes, along with a decent Transformation as well, and, as Chuck says, he feels pretty sturdy too.
Check out Chuck's thoughts below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
With the Ultimate Class from the Cyberverse line, we get a great Neo-G1 Optimus Prime. Transformation is simple but features a nice throwback nod to G1 Optimus Prime, that results in a cool, futuristic truck mode. The gimmick is fun and nonobtrusive unless you have large hands like me. Overall Ultimate Class Optimus Prime is a great figure you can have a lot of fun with.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 26th, 2018 @ 7:57pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on July 26th, 2018 @ 8:51pm CDT
But on a serious note the toys look really fun. From what I can see from Chuck's vid this line is going to be interesting!
Posted by whacko on July 26th, 2018 @ 9:34pm CDT
It looks like a poorly articulated, oddly molded, cheap bit of garbage.
Posted by william-james88 on July 26th, 2018 @ 9:43pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:Okay, So I've sampled Cyberverse Shocky and maybe my standards have just been lowered over the years, but I don't hate him.
His Alt Mode is a cop-out but there is SOME transformation with the front limbs rotating and I like that his alt mode has its own cannon as opposed to Shockwave just using the same gun in both modes, something I always hate (What's the point in transforming if he has the same junk in both modes). Some people have tossed out Beast Wars' penchant for the limbs-as-limbs tactic so I'm kinda used to it by now.
THANKS! I don't hate it either, neither the robot or the alt mode and from the responses I was getting, I was starting to think I was nuts.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2018 @ 9:47pm CDT
Its size.whacko wrote:What is "ultimate" about this figure?
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on July 27th, 2018 @ 2:03am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thanks to our ole review pal chuckdawg1999, we have a new review for you to check out today: Cyberverse Ultimate Class Optimus Prime. This is the first review we have gotten for the ultimate class figures, and this larger class sort of has a tough crowd, considering the overall low reviews and opinions of the Cyberverse toyline so far, save Shockwave.
But Ultimate Optimus Prime here actually appears to be quite a decent figure, at least according to Chuck. The figure itself has pretty good posability and a pretty neat gimmick that works in both modes, along with a decent Transformation as well, and, as Chuck says, he feels pretty sturdy too.
Check out Chuck's thoughts below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!With the Ultimate Class from the Cyberverse line, we get a great Neo-G1 Optimus Prime. Transformation is simple but features a nice throwback nod to G1 Optimus Prime, that results in a cool, futuristic truck mode. The gimmick is fun and nonobtrusive unless you have large hands like me. Overall Ultimate Class Optimus Prime is a great figure you can have a lot of fun with.
I actually picked this guy up today after finding a distinct lack of Lockdown and Ant-Man on the shelves (just saw Ant-Man and the Wasp, loved it!) and since this guy is the only one in the line that interests me at all I figured I'd give him a shot. He's alright, nothing amazing but fun. He's got basic articulation, his shoulders can move back a bit (nice surprise) and while he has no ankle tilts he's got big feet so he stands up well. Only big complaint I have is that his gimmick will NOT STOP ACTIVATING ITSELF. It's on a hair trigger and it's incredibly annoying, and a few panels stay in place only using gravity, but it's not the worst thing I've ever seen. I might paint him a bit, I don't really like the black tossed onto his hands and waist, looks bad to me. I'm also considering gluing his gimmick shut so I never have to deal with it again. That said, he's still fun and generally will look good on a shelf.
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 27th, 2018 @ 2:16am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 27th, 2018 @ 9:33am CDT
I will cut to the chase, he is fine for kids, much better than the simpler toys of this size from Robots in Disguise, but still just a shadow of the great toy it could be. And it wouldn't need so much more. He reminds me a lot of Leader Animated Megatron in a way, with the similar aesthetics and decent yet simple transformation that efficiently gives you two good looking modes. It also reminds me of the Cybertron line where the robot is fully made up of the alt mode parts yet we see different sides of the same part to give the two modes different details. I love those two lines, so this is high praise, but the toy falls short mostly due to lack of crucial articulation and intrusive gimmick.
Now let's get to it.
We get the toy in robot mode and my instinct is to try posing him. That's where the problems start and where the interest starts sinking fast. For a big figure, he does not have much more articulation than a very basic toy. There is no articulation at the neck, bicep, elbow, wrist and no thing swivel. You cannot even move the cannon out of the way to see his other fist. So the static pose is his main stance, though you are welcome to try other poses.
The gimmick gives him another stance where you bring the arms together (this is the same transformation step for getting him into tank mode) where you can press a button and flip out to cannon. This makes it look like the cannon is firing and while we did see stock photos of this, there is no lock in mechanism so you can only keep seeing this effect when you keep pressing.
Turning him into a tank is easy and I am sure I have seen this transformation elsewhere (titanium Fallen?) But I didn't mind. For a simpler toy, it has some nice steps, especially the feet. It's a simple but elegant way to get from his lower leg into his full tank treads.
I can see a young kid really enjoying this transformation. It's easy but very blocky, like one of the simpler Cybertron toys. And in tank mode, all the parts that made up the robot are flipped so you see new detail for the tank mode. The tank looks great, I have no issues with it, and unlike some other tank Transformers, you can't make out the fists as easily even though there is no extra step to hide them.
This is easily the better mode for me. The gimmick makes more sense here, it rolls and basically get the job done as well as I would expect for any tank former. Its got a nice meaty size too, especially height wise.
So in the end, this is a major step up from the Power Surge and three step figures from Robots in Disguise, so that’s good news for kids. However, it is not on par with leader toys from the Cybertron era though I do see some similarities in the design to what we got in the Animated and Cybertron leaders. This can be the basis for a much better toy, but as it stands I do not recommend him to collectors.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2018 @ 9:40am CDT
G2 Dreadwind (and redecos).william-james88 wrote:Turning him into a tank is easy and I am sure I have seen this transformation elsewhere
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 27th, 2018 @ 10:18am CDT
(though I'm not massively fond of that Cybertron Prime or Animated Megatron and I've owned both those...not intentionally but as parts of large lots so yeah this figure was never gonna be for me.)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 27th, 2018 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by MrBlack on July 27th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 28th, 2018 @ 4:40pm CDT
I finally realized what these toys remind me of! You remember those Fast Action Battlers from '07?
Tell me I'm not the only one seeing how this line is mimicking the FAB toys. Like, more so than the usually kid aimed Transformers sub-lines (One-step Changers, Activators, Deployers, etc.). Like statically, they don't look horrible, but then when you get into the articulation and gimmick, oh boy.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT
Link for those interested:
http://www.argos.co.uk/search/transformers-cyberverse/
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 28th, 2018 @ 5:06pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Honestly, this toyline is not looking good, the lack of articulation for poorly executed gimmicks, the gimmicks titled with cringe-worthy attacks...
I finally realized what these toys remind me of! You remember those Fast Action Battlers from '07?
Tell me I'm not the only one seeing how this line is mimicking the FAB toys. Like, more so than the usually kid aimed Transformers sub-lines (One-step Changers, Activators, Deployers, etc.). Like statically, they don't look horrible, but then when you get into the articulation and gimmick, oh boy.
I think you hit the nail right on the head there. 2007 and RotF Fast Action Battlers, AoE Power Battlers/Attackers have the same principle. So they're Warrior Class in name only.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 28th, 2018 @ 7:57pm CDT
Here's a video review of Ultimate Megs to check out
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on July 29th, 2018 @ 5:49am CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Honestly, this toyline is not looking good, the lack of articulation for poorly executed gimmicks, the gimmicks titled with cringe-worthy attacks...
I finally realized what these toys remind me of! You remember those Fast Action Battlers from '07?
Tell me I'm not the only one seeing how this line is mimicking the FAB toys. Like, more so than the usually kid aimed Transformers sub-lines (One-step Changers, Activators, Deployers, etc.). Like statically, they don't look horrible, but then when you get into the articulation and gimmick, oh boy.
They're much better than this hunk of petroleum they call Megatron.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 29th, 2018 @ 6:12am CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 29th, 2018 @ 11:35pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:There's high chances that I'll be skipping this line entirely. Even for Shockwave. Space is becoming damn limited and I have some new non-TF interest rising like a tidal wave right now.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 31st, 2018 @ 7:56pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 1st, 2018 @ 2:11am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 1st, 2018 @ 6:01am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Is that the one without knees though?
Precisely