Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades
Wednesday, May 18th, 2016 11:01PM CDT
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Well, yours truly has managed to snag hold of a Combiner Wars Victorion from Hasbro Toy Show using that good ole 15% off May Mayhem code, and it even managed to arrive 30 hours after ordering. A great story, but one for another time.
Now, it is time to give the Rust Renegades a good pictorial review. Now, most of you will remember that our very own Seibertron did a nice little Video Review as well as his typical and fantastic Gallery, but now it is time for a different type of review. We will be taking a nice pictorial review of the figure that I received today, and we will also bring up some important characteristics of the figure, such as some remolding, some neat little tricks, and a few issues to keep an eye out.
Alright folks, dudes and dudettes, ladies and gents, lets get rolling!
First up, We will investigate the Box and the extra little pieces of paper and posterboard:
That's right peoples, she not only has a massive box, but she comes with a collectors card, instructions, and a poster of herself with her individual bots in alt mode! (Well, except for poor old Rust Dust...)
Alright, now on to the alt modes:
For quick clarification: Stormclash has the visor and the left-side chest-mounted Autobot symbol, while Skyburst has the individual eyes and the right-side chest-mounted Autobot symbol.
And if you use the feet on the underneath side, you can get some nice flying poses!
Now, Jumpstream's front end where the chest tabs to the bumber is a bit messy, but it still pegs in nice and snug. She also looks really good with the Pyra Magna axe as a spoiler.
Be careful with Dust up: her underside likes to drag on the ground. Just a warning.
And here is a nice little look at the new ladder and bucket assembly Pyra Magna is decorated with.
Now, after looking at that, some thoughts:
Dust up to me feels like she could be the winner since, despite the several uses of the mold, besides Dead End I don't have this version of the mold, so it feels cool. I only wish some of her other issues did not exist, but we'll see those later.
Pyra Magna has some issues with the front of her firetruck mode as it won't level out, so the second set of wheels is almost always off the ground. But overall, not terrible. I just wish it leveled out and had some better plastic.
The twins are a choice treat. Yes, they are the coptor mode, but they feel a little bit different and nice, and I love their heads. One issue: Their legs peg together so snug that separating them is a bit scary.
Jumpstream has a bit of a roundish and weird looking head, but overall she is not bad. Mine came with some paint chips off the chest plate, but she transforms well, and may be the most fun one to transform.
Rust Dust may be a repaint, but she is still nice, and I like her, she makes me smile.
Robot modes:
A comparison for the Twin's heads
The new head and chest of Jumpstream
And this is where I have another issue with the figure. if you look at the joint close enough, you see stress marks from only transforming her 3 times. The roof joint is very tight and I worry for the longevity of the windshield screen. she has major issues staying together and transforming. Ouch.
Another issue: her chest panel does not want to peg into the main body.
Pyra Magna may use the main Hot Spot body and alt mode, but she did get Onslaught's heel spurs, a nice touch very much appreciated since her ladder assemble is shorter and no longer touches the ground.
and how I find the feet and hands store away the best.
Now, you may notice that the hands are hiding inside the feet. They actually slide in there pretty nicely too. In the images shown below, you can see how this works, but the hands have a little slot on the underside of the hand in the 5mm port that enables them to slide into the feet, and they stay very snug. Nice touch.
Now, for a quick peak at her fantastic new weapon, which is the combined mode of all 5 weapons seen previously:
And now for some combined mode:
This right here is her new chest detail without Rust Dust
Nice little trick here. I have seen several reviewers have the issue of the new coptor arms clashing, but there are 2 different tabs in the arms, so you can rotate them and peg them in like this, meaning that there are no clashing parts in combined mode
She has 2 different limb configurations. Here is the "Flight mode" with the coptor twins as the feet.
And gravity control mode, with the coptor twins as the arms
Dust up is a recurring issue, as her arm mode does not like to stay together unfortunately. If hse is still she won't separate, but if you move her, BAM! She will fall apart.
So, on to my final thoughts.
Box and bonus stuff: Works for me. The poster was a nice touch and I will hang it up somewhere, and the card shall join my other cards lying on my desk. Awesome art though, as per usual boxy stuff.
Pyra Magna: the plastic is very soft and not overly heavy, a major weak point. Her knees no longer want to tab in place and I'm scared to push any farther, and her left arm does not like combined mode. I do appreciate the heel spurs, a great improvement, and she does look good. Her new chest and head are also pretty good. I'd give her an 7/10, with the alt modes, left arm, and plastic quality issues letting her down.
Dust up: The weakest of the group. Alt mode drags the ground, the chest won't tab, and the roof scares me, not to mention sticking together in arm mode. But, she does look awesome, and the Nightbird head is amazing. So, 6/10. She is the one that I fear actually breaking.
Jumpstream: the best of the bunch to me. Decent head, transforms well, the hips are now far more solid than the original Breakdown and she has some nice new arms to go with the head. Plus, she rolls nice, and looks awesome with the axe weapon. 9/10, with the only losing points going to the nose piece.
Stormclash/Skyburst: I love me some twins, and they are no exception. The mirrored paint apps and the slightly different heads make them just different enough, and they transform nice, have new parts, and they make great limbs. They may be the best pair of limbs. 9/10 for both, the legs transformation being the only letdown, due to the scariness of potential breaking.
Rust Dust: Nice little repaint. she works, and she looks alright. tabs in better than Groove too, so 10/10 for what she is.
Victorion: the main event herself, and the best of the combiners in my opinion. The uniform color scheme is awesome and matches and makes her look like a big bot made from a cohesive team. And she has loads of paint, loads and loads of it. You will not get bored looking at the amount of paint apps. this is on par with club or Botcon exclusives! nicely done there. She also looks symmetrical and the new hands and feet are awesome, just wish the hands were a touch bigger. Now, I found that she is more balanced with the coptor sisters as legs, but you can go whatever route you want. It's combiner wars! Mix and Match! And her head, oh wow, it is big and detailed and lovely. she actually has eyes, and then the visor overtop! I really like that, and the detail on the crest is nice touch. Overall, I give her a 10/10 for what she is.
Now, you may be exhausted when you consider she is entirely repaints with some retooling, but she is still well worth it. She is uniform in paint and symmetry, has special new parts, some fantastic heads, and that sword! I'd recommend her, even if you have collected all the other combiner like I have. Take a look, and should you decide to leap: Hasbro Toy Shop still has that May Mayhem coupon, so go get her!
I hope you all enjoyed this review. Let us know what you think of this new gal in the comments section down below, and as always stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers News and Galleries!
Now, it is time to give the Rust Renegades a good pictorial review. Now, most of you will remember that our very own Seibertron did a nice little Video Review as well as his typical and fantastic Gallery, but now it is time for a different type of review. We will be taking a nice pictorial review of the figure that I received today, and we will also bring up some important characteristics of the figure, such as some remolding, some neat little tricks, and a few issues to keep an eye out.
Alright folks, dudes and dudettes, ladies and gents, lets get rolling!
First up, We will investigate the Box and the extra little pieces of paper and posterboard:
That's right peoples, she not only has a massive box, but she comes with a collectors card, instructions, and a poster of herself with her individual bots in alt mode! (Well, except for poor old Rust Dust...)
Alright, now on to the alt modes:
For quick clarification: Stormclash has the visor and the left-side chest-mounted Autobot symbol, while Skyburst has the individual eyes and the right-side chest-mounted Autobot symbol.
And if you use the feet on the underneath side, you can get some nice flying poses!
Now, Jumpstream's front end where the chest tabs to the bumber is a bit messy, but it still pegs in nice and snug. She also looks really good with the Pyra Magna axe as a spoiler.
Be careful with Dust up: her underside likes to drag on the ground. Just a warning.
And here is a nice little look at the new ladder and bucket assembly Pyra Magna is decorated with.
Now, after looking at that, some thoughts:
Dust up to me feels like she could be the winner since, despite the several uses of the mold, besides Dead End I don't have this version of the mold, so it feels cool. I only wish some of her other issues did not exist, but we'll see those later.
Pyra Magna has some issues with the front of her firetruck mode as it won't level out, so the second set of wheels is almost always off the ground. But overall, not terrible. I just wish it leveled out and had some better plastic.
The twins are a choice treat. Yes, they are the coptor mode, but they feel a little bit different and nice, and I love their heads. One issue: Their legs peg together so snug that separating them is a bit scary.
Jumpstream has a bit of a roundish and weird looking head, but overall she is not bad. Mine came with some paint chips off the chest plate, but she transforms well, and may be the most fun one to transform.
Rust Dust may be a repaint, but she is still nice, and I like her, she makes me smile.
Robot modes:
A comparison for the Twin's heads
The new head and chest of Jumpstream
And this is where I have another issue with the figure. if you look at the joint close enough, you see stress marks from only transforming her 3 times. The roof joint is very tight and I worry for the longevity of the windshield screen. she has major issues staying together and transforming. Ouch.
Another issue: her chest panel does not want to peg into the main body.
Pyra Magna may use the main Hot Spot body and alt mode, but she did get Onslaught's heel spurs, a nice touch very much appreciated since her ladder assemble is shorter and no longer touches the ground.
and how I find the feet and hands store away the best.
Now, you may notice that the hands are hiding inside the feet. They actually slide in there pretty nicely too. In the images shown below, you can see how this works, but the hands have a little slot on the underside of the hand in the 5mm port that enables them to slide into the feet, and they stay very snug. Nice touch.
Now, for a quick peak at her fantastic new weapon, which is the combined mode of all 5 weapons seen previously:
And now for some combined mode:
This right here is her new chest detail without Rust Dust
Nice little trick here. I have seen several reviewers have the issue of the new coptor arms clashing, but there are 2 different tabs in the arms, so you can rotate them and peg them in like this, meaning that there are no clashing parts in combined mode
She has 2 different limb configurations. Here is the "Flight mode" with the coptor twins as the feet.
And gravity control mode, with the coptor twins as the arms
Dust up is a recurring issue, as her arm mode does not like to stay together unfortunately. If hse is still she won't separate, but if you move her, BAM! She will fall apart.
So, on to my final thoughts.
Box and bonus stuff: Works for me. The poster was a nice touch and I will hang it up somewhere, and the card shall join my other cards lying on my desk. Awesome art though, as per usual boxy stuff.
Pyra Magna: the plastic is very soft and not overly heavy, a major weak point. Her knees no longer want to tab in place and I'm scared to push any farther, and her left arm does not like combined mode. I do appreciate the heel spurs, a great improvement, and she does look good. Her new chest and head are also pretty good. I'd give her an 7/10, with the alt modes, left arm, and plastic quality issues letting her down.
Dust up: The weakest of the group. Alt mode drags the ground, the chest won't tab, and the roof scares me, not to mention sticking together in arm mode. But, she does look awesome, and the Nightbird head is amazing. So, 6/10. She is the one that I fear actually breaking.
Jumpstream: the best of the bunch to me. Decent head, transforms well, the hips are now far more solid than the original Breakdown and she has some nice new arms to go with the head. Plus, she rolls nice, and looks awesome with the axe weapon. 9/10, with the only losing points going to the nose piece.
Stormclash/Skyburst: I love me some twins, and they are no exception. The mirrored paint apps and the slightly different heads make them just different enough, and they transform nice, have new parts, and they make great limbs. They may be the best pair of limbs. 9/10 for both, the legs transformation being the only letdown, due to the scariness of potential breaking.
Rust Dust: Nice little repaint. she works, and she looks alright. tabs in better than Groove too, so 10/10 for what she is.
Victorion: the main event herself, and the best of the combiners in my opinion. The uniform color scheme is awesome and matches and makes her look like a big bot made from a cohesive team. And she has loads of paint, loads and loads of it. You will not get bored looking at the amount of paint apps. this is on par with club or Botcon exclusives! nicely done there. She also looks symmetrical and the new hands and feet are awesome, just wish the hands were a touch bigger. Now, I found that she is more balanced with the coptor sisters as legs, but you can go whatever route you want. It's combiner wars! Mix and Match! And her head, oh wow, it is big and detailed and lovely. she actually has eyes, and then the visor overtop! I really like that, and the detail on the crest is nice touch. Overall, I give her a 10/10 for what she is.
Now, you may be exhausted when you consider she is entirely repaints with some retooling, but she is still well worth it. She is uniform in paint and symmetry, has special new parts, some fantastic heads, and that sword! I'd recommend her, even if you have collected all the other combiner like I have. Take a look, and should you decide to leap: Hasbro Toy Shop still has that May Mayhem coupon, so go get her!
I hope you all enjoyed this review. Let us know what you think of this new gal in the comments section down below, and as always stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers News and Galleries!
Credit(s): D-Maximus_Primal
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Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790747)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 18th, 2016 @ 11:35pm CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on May 18th, 2016 @ 11:35pm CDT
Nice review! I picked her up at my local Target today (had her shipped to the store), and really like her. Some of the issues you mentioned I'm not having with mine. My Dustup stays together fairly well in arm mode (that's how I have her right now), and her chest piece does peg in, but it takes some effort. It fits tightly in there, though. Also, I've noticed that if you pull up on the windshield a bit on her, then open it the rest of the way by pressing down at the back of the windshield piece, on the roof, that it avoids those stress marks. I started doing that when I got Wildrider and the stress marks on his haven't gotten any bigger.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790748)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2016 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2016 @ 11:46pm CDT
Sounds like your Pyra Magna is one of the misassembled ones (if they aren't all misassembled, that is).
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790749)
Posted by Flashwave on May 18th, 2016 @ 11:57pm CDT
This, right here is an issue I have with every iteration of the Dead End/Streetwise mold and is why I will never be using them as arms period. And if its not the legs, it's the pivoting socket piece drooping down under weight prying the legs apart. I get the same issue with the Leg mode too, but not as much since weight of the gestalt holds it in place.
Your chest plate issues I have not noticed with mine, maybe it's a lesser thing.
You mention the front of Pyra Magna's truck not level, I have that problem with my Onslaught, and I don't recall but I miight have seen it on Hot Spot to a much lesser degree. So it's not just her.
Posted by Flashwave on May 18th, 2016 @ 11:57pm CDT
Dust up is a recurring issue, as her arm mode does not like to stay together unfortunately. If hse is still she won't separate, but if you move her, BAM! She will fall apart.
This, right here is an issue I have with every iteration of the Dead End/Streetwise mold and is why I will never be using them as arms period. And if its not the legs, it's the pivoting socket piece drooping down under weight prying the legs apart. I get the same issue with the Leg mode too, but not as much since weight of the gestalt holds it in place.
Your chest plate issues I have not noticed with mine, maybe it's a lesser thing.
You mention the front of Pyra Magna's truck not level, I have that problem with my Onslaught, and I don't recall but I miight have seen it on Hot Spot to a much lesser degree. So it's not just her.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790767)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 19th, 2016 @ 5:27am CDT
I'll have to remember this and give it a try tonight when I get back from work
Thank you! 
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 19th, 2016 @ 5:27am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Also, I've noticed that if you pull up on the windshield a bit on her, then open it the rest of the way by pressing down at the back of the windshield piece, on the roof, that it avoids those stress marks. I started doing that when I got Wildrider and the stress marks on his haven't gotten any bigger.
I'll have to remember this and give it a try tonight when I get back from work
Thank you!
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790771)
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2016 @ 6:26am CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2016 @ 6:26am CDT
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790779)
Posted by Randomhero on May 19th, 2016 @ 7:14am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on May 19th, 2016 @ 7:14am CDT
She arrives tomorrow and I cant wait! I think I'll keep the coptors as arms and cars as feet. It looks more attractive and they're a bit more stable than the cars. Also that's how she's primarily portrayed in the comics and it over looks more attractive.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790790)
Posted by Giant Purple Griffin on May 19th, 2016 @ 8:05am CDT
Posted by Giant Purple Griffin on May 19th, 2016 @ 8:05am CDT
I really appreciated this review. I always prefer a good pictorial review to video and would love to see more (even if just for special cases like this).
Anyway, this set is so tempting. I keep waffling back and forth....
Anyway, this set is so tempting. I keep waffling back and forth....
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790794)
Posted by Randomhero on May 19th, 2016 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on May 19th, 2016 @ 8:35am CDT
The legs on pyra Magnus are misassembled. I don't know if there's a way to fix them, I haven't seen anything about it yet.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790796)
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 19th, 2016 @ 8:37am CDT
Small note, I found that while most of the molds do have this issue, my Prowl doesn't.
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 19th, 2016 @ 8:37am CDT
Flashwave wrote:Dust up is a recurring issue, as her arm mode does not like to stay together unfortunately. If hse is still she won't separate, but if you move her, BAM! She will fall apart.
This, right here is an issue I have with every iteration of the Dead End/Streetwise mold and is why I will never be using them as arms period. And if its not the legs, it's the pivoting socket piece drooping down under weight prying the legs apart. I get the same issue with the Leg mode too, but not as much since weight of the gestalt holds it in place.
Small note, I found that while most of the molds do have this issue, my Prowl doesn't.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790799)
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790801)
Posted by Counterpunch on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:10am CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:10am CDT
If you get your Victorion set, please confirm whether Pyro Magna is missassembled or not.
You can check this by whether her legs lock into the knees in robot mode.
You can check this by whether her legs lock into the knees in robot mode.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790815)
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:49am CDT
Definitely misassembled on my Pyra Magna. First thing I checked (followed by fixing them - tried removing rivets to no avail, so blade-trim it was, and it holds fine)!
(More in my thread, pictures start here.)
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:49am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:If you get your Victorion set, please confirm whether Pyro Magna is missassembled or not.
You can check this by whether her legs lock into the knees in robot mode.
Definitely misassembled on my Pyra Magna. First thing I checked (followed by fixing them - tried removing rivets to no avail, so blade-trim it was, and it holds fine)!
(More in my thread, pictures start here.)
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790819)
Posted by no-one on May 19th, 2016 @ 10:00am CDT
Posted by no-one on May 19th, 2016 @ 10:00am CDT
Great review D! 
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790843)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 19th, 2016 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on May 19th, 2016 @ 11:36am CDT
IMO, I think she looks best with the twins as her arms and the cars as her legs. Makes her more... streamlined? Certainly goes with her hands better, given how the cars give her a wizard-sleeve look with those girly little hands.
I kinda want her, but once more, finances aren't strong right now, but if she's still available by summer's end, I'll totally grab myself a set.
I kinda want her, but once more, finances aren't strong right now, but if she's still available by summer's end, I'll totally grab myself a set.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790851)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 19th, 2016 @ 12:14pm CDT
You're welcome! It only seems to be an issue on the Dead End version of the mold (Dead End, Wildrider, Dustup) but thankfully, there's that workaround.
Posted by Bounti76 on May 19th, 2016 @ 12:14pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Also, I've noticed that if you pull up on the windshield a bit on her, then open it the rest of the way by pressing down at the back of the windshield piece, on the roof, that it avoids those stress marks. I started doing that when I got Wildrider and the stress marks on his haven't gotten any bigger.
I'll have to remember this and give it a try tonight when I get back from work
You're welcome! It only seems to be an issue on the Dead End version of the mold (Dead End, Wildrider, Dustup) but thankfully, there's that workaround.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790889)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 19th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CDT
I actually push down on the roof/back of the windshield first on the Dead End, Streetwise and Breakdown molds (and various retools/remolds) before pulling on the windshield itself. In my case, its fat fingers and short nails that make it hard for me to grab the windshield first, but I'm also glad to know I've been preventing stress marks the whole time. This seems to be really important on the G2 stunticons where the tolerances are really tight.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 19th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Also, I've noticed that if you pull up on the windshield a bit on her, then open it the rest of the way by pressing down at the back of the windshield piece, on the roof, that it avoids those stress marks. I started doing that when I got Wildrider and the stress marks on his haven't gotten any bigger.
I'll have to remember this and give it a try tonight when I get back from work
You're welcome! It only seems to be an issue on the Dead End version of the mold (Dead End, Wildrider, Dustup) but thankfully, there's that workaround.
I actually push down on the roof/back of the windshield first on the Dead End, Streetwise and Breakdown molds (and various retools/remolds) before pulling on the windshield itself. In my case, its fat fingers and short nails that make it hard for me to grab the windshield first, but I'm also glad to know I've been preventing stress marks the whole time. This seems to be really important on the G2 stunticons where the tolerances are really tight.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790899)
Posted by Cobotron on May 19th, 2016 @ 2:08pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on May 19th, 2016 @ 2:08pm CDT
I remember early reports of the stress marks and straight up breaking. I too always push on the back first to get my finger under the windshield, than apply pressure to both sides. I do the same for the Breakdown mold also. Out of habit.TF-fan kev777 wrote:Bounti76 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Also, I've noticed that if you pull up on the windshield a bit on her, then open it the rest of the way by pressing down at the back of the windshield piece, on the roof, that it avoids those stress marks. I started doing that when I got Wildrider and the stress marks on his haven't gotten any bigger.
I'll have to remember this and give it a try tonight when I get back from work
You're welcome! It only seems to be an issue on the Dead End version of the mold (Dead End, Wildrider, Dustup) but thankfully, there's that workaround.
I actually push down on the roof/back of the windshield first on the Dead End, Streetwise and Breakdown molds (and various retools/remolds) before pulling on the windshield itself. In my case, its fat fingers and short nails that make it hard for me to grab the windshield first, but I'm also glad to know I've been preventing stress marks the whole time. This seems to be really important on the G2 stunticons where the tolerances are really tight.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790912)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 19th, 2016 @ 3:02pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 19th, 2016 @ 3:02pm CDT
Amazingly enough, Dust up is the only version of the mold that I have had issues with. Hmm....
And thanks for the positive feedback
Maybe we can try to make this a regular thing!
And thanks for the positive feedback
Maybe we can try to make this a regular thing!
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790932)
Posted by no-one on May 19th, 2016 @ 3:39pm CDT
Posted by no-one on May 19th, 2016 @ 3:39pm CDT
The other option is to pop the combiner peg down and push from the underside with a pen or something slim.Cobotron wrote:I remember early reports of the stress marks and straight up breaking. I too always push on the back first to get my finger under the windshield, than apply pressure to both sides. I do the same for the Breakdown mold also. Out of habit.TF-fan kev777 wrote:Bounti76 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Also, I've noticed that if you pull up on the windshield a bit on her, then open it the rest of the way by pressing down at the back of the windshield piece, on the roof, that it avoids those stress marks. I started doing that when I got Wildrider and the stress marks on his haven't gotten any bigger.
I'll have to remember this and give it a try tonight when I get back from work
You're welcome! It only seems to be an issue on the Dead End version of the mold (Dead End, Wildrider, Dustup) but thankfully, there's that workaround.
I actually push down on the roof/back of the windshield first on the Dead End, Streetwise and Breakdown molds (and various retools/remolds) before pulling on the windshield itself. In my case, its fat fingers and short nails that make it hard for me to grab the windshield first, but I'm also glad to know I've been preventing stress marks the whole time. This seems to be really important on the G2 stunticons where the tolerances are really tight.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790968)
Posted by Slashercon on May 19th, 2016 @ 6:56pm CDT
Posted by Slashercon on May 19th, 2016 @ 6:56pm CDT
My Pyra Magna figure is also misassembled. 
Just compared her with Onslaught and the legs won't lock properly. I wonder if Hasbro will be willing to fix the issue.
Just compared her with Onslaught and the legs won't lock properly. I wonder if Hasbro will be willing to fix the issue.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790969)
Posted by Cobotron on May 19th, 2016 @ 7:06pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on May 19th, 2016 @ 7:06pm CDT
Man! This miss-assembly issue does not sound like something the fans chose. 
Hope Uncle Hasby makes up for it.
Hope Uncle Hasby makes up for it.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790973)
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2016 @ 7:30pm CDT
Did they ever make up for the paint they forgot to apply to Jazz?
Transformers Adventures Jazz Gallery
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2016 @ 7:30pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Man! This miss-assembly issue does not sound like something the fans chose.
Hope Uncle Hasby makes up for it.
Did they ever make up for the paint they forgot to apply to Jazz?
Transformers Adventures Jazz Gallery
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790988)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:20pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:20pm CDT
Shame 'bout all the problems with Victorion, the plastic quality across the line has been noticeably poor. I too had the problem with both Dead-End and Neck-Brace's roofs, I don't have any stress marks, but they make the absolute worst creaking and squeaking noises I've heard in a transformer toy. Had a similar problem with breakdown, but that I fixed by shaving a bit of plastic off of him somewhere. I don't have this issue with the prowl molds though, they feel great.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1790989)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:22pm CDT
lol, they didn't 'forget', they're just trying to make a quick sleazy buck off of fans, so I guess you could say that they "forgot"
On topic, it would be awesome of hasbro to release multiple versions of the sword, one in gunmetal and trnaslucent red or purple as the dark star saber; and one in silver and a lighter blue, or some other color as the star saber I'd pay like $5-10 for each, but I want those in my life 
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 19th, 2016 @ 9:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Man! This miss-assembly issue does not sound like something the fans chose.
Hope Uncle Hasby makes up for it.
Did they ever make up for the paint they forgot to apply to Jazz?
Transformers Adventures Jazz Gallery
lol, they didn't 'forget', they're just trying to make a quick sleazy buck off of fans, so I guess you could say that they "forgot"
On topic, it would be awesome of hasbro to release multiple versions of the sword, one in gunmetal and trnaslucent red or purple as the dark star saber; and one in silver and a lighter blue, or some other color as the star saber
I'd pay like $5-10 for each, but I want those in my life
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791140)
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 11:23am CDT
They won't. I just got line and her legs are misassembled too but they're surprisingly tight so I'm quite alread with it.
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 11:23am CDT
Slashercon wrote:My Pyra Magna figure is also misassembled.
They won't. I just got line and her legs are misassembled too but they're surprisingly tight so I'm quite alread with it.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791141)
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 11:24am CDT
It probably will get reused again at some point much like the weapons that came with the Combiner hunters SDCC 3 pack.
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 11:24am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Man! This miss-assembly issue does not sound like something the fans chose.
Hope Uncle Hasby makes up for it.
Did they ever make up for the paint they forgot to apply to Jazz?
Transformers Adventures Jazz Gallery
lol, they didn't 'forget', they're just trying to make a quick sleazy buck off of fans, so I guess you could say that they "forgot"
On topic, it would be awesome of hasbro to release multiple versions of the sword, one in gunmetal and trnaslucent red or purple as the dark star saber; and one in silver and a lighter blue, or some other color as the star saber
It probably will get reused again at some point much like the weapons that came with the Combiner hunters SDCC 3 pack.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791153)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 12:07pm CDT
So Pyra Magna (AKA the only one I really cared about) is incorrectly assembled? Well, that sucks. A pity, as I actually really digged her- I would have bought her had she been released individually (at least, were it not for the apparent QC issues with her). Still, with all these complaints about plastic quality and QC issues throughout the line I think I made the right decision in ditching CW/UW.
It's a real shame, because I've seen the comic designs for Victorion and her components and they look great (yes I am aware they're based on the toys). Heck, even the final colours aren't that bad, but the molds just don't work for them, and by the sounds of things mold degradation is setting in already. Now all I can hope for is some enterprising 3P company (ideally Maketoys) to make a rendition of these girls. Not that that's going to happen in a million years but it would be nice.
It's a real shame, because I've seen the comic designs for Victorion and her components and they look great (yes I am aware they're based on the toys). Heck, even the final colours aren't that bad, but the molds just don't work for them, and by the sounds of things mold degradation is setting in already. Now all I can hope for is some enterprising 3P company (ideally Maketoys) to make a rendition of these girls. Not that that's going to happen in a million years but it would be nice.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791163)
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CDT
Her knees don't lock to the shins like onslaught and hotspot. It doesn't destroy the entire figure. She can still pose and everything and like I said the legs are quite stuff. To be honest I didn't even know the knees locked until I got onslaught and I had HotSpot for over 6 months by that point. It doesn't ruin my enjoyment what so ever.
And f&$& 3rd parties.
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:So Pyra Magna (AKA the only one I really cared about) is incorrectly assembled? Well, that sucks. A pity, as I actually really digged her- I would have bought her had she been released individually (at least, were it not for the apparent QC issues with her). Still, with all these complaints about plastic quality and QC issues throughout the line I think I made the right decision in ditching CW/UW.
It's a real shame, because I've seen the comic designs for Victorion and her components and they look great (yes I am aware they're based on the toys). Heck, even the final colours aren't that bad, but the molds just don't work for them, and by the sounds of things mold degradation is setting in already. Now all I can hope for is some enterprising 3P company (ideally Maketoys) to make a rendition of these girls. Not that that's going to happen in a million years but it would be nice.
Her knees don't lock to the shins like onslaught and hotspot. It doesn't destroy the entire figure. She can still pose and everything and like I said the legs are quite stuff. To be honest I didn't even know the knees locked until I got onslaught and I had HotSpot for over 6 months by that point. It doesn't ruin my enjoyment what so ever.
And f&$& 3rd parties.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791174)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 12:55pm CDT
I'd like to agree with you, but having had a Hot Spot with a slightly loose knee, those locking tabs are pretty vital to getting the hips to hold together in combined mode. And regardless of whether or not it "destroys the entire figure" it's still pretty lame to see such an anticipated figure suffer from misassembly.
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 12:55pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:So Pyra Magna (AKA the only one I really cared about) is incorrectly assembled? Well, that sucks. A pity, as I actually really digged her- I would have bought her had she been released individually (at least, were it not for the apparent QC issues with her). Still, with all these complaints about plastic quality and QC issues throughout the line I think I made the right decision in ditching CW/UW.
It's a real shame, because I've seen the comic designs for Victorion and her components and they look great (yes I am aware they're based on the toys). Heck, even the final colours aren't that bad, but the molds just don't work for them, and by the sounds of things mold degradation is setting in already. Now all I can hope for is some enterprising 3P company (ideally Maketoys) to make a rendition of these girls. Not that that's going to happen in a million years but it would be nice.
Her knees don't lock to the shins like onslaught and hotspot. It doesn't destroy the entire figure. She can still pose and everything and like I said the legs are quite stuff. To be honest I didn't even know the knees locked until I got onslaught and I had HotSpot for over 6 months by that point. It doesn't ruin my enjoyment what so ever.
I'd like to agree with you, but having had a Hot Spot with a slightly loose knee, those locking tabs are pretty vital to getting the hips to hold together in combined mode. And regardless of whether or not it "destroys the entire figure" it's still pretty lame to see such an anticipated figure suffer from misassembly.
And f&$& 3rd parties.
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791180)
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 1:06pm CDT
Everyone is different. I'm totally happy with her and my hotshot is a little loose but it's not awful. The ladder helps with support thats why I never noticed the knees lock. The ladder always supported him until I watched a review and saw the knees lock. End of the day I'm the one that looks at her, I'm not waiving her around at recess going "look what I got" anymore and to be honest when its displayed with everyone else it will be Victorion and I have zero leg issues combined. The entire figure is really stiff and the articulated ankles make some great poses.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791184)
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 1:25pm CDT
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.[/quote]
Come on over and say high quality to my fans project warbot defender that came with seered ratchets right out of the box or my hypernovae who also had bad ratchets in his knees the moment I opened him or my fans project TBone who crumbled in my hand when I decided to take them from M3 and display them in individual mode instead OR even my mech ideas ironfist who is held together with glue and good intentions because his mushroom pegs on his legs came right off when I took him out of the box or even my maketoys pandeus who had red paint smeared all over his face and it took 2 months to get a replacement face.
Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC. Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.
I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 1:25pm CDT
And f&$& 3rd parties.
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.
[/quote]Come on over and say high quality to my fans project warbot defender that came with seered ratchets right out of the box or my hypernovae who also had bad ratchets in his knees the moment I opened him or my fans project TBone who crumbled in my hand when I decided to take them from M3 and display them in individual mode instead OR even my mech ideas ironfist who is held together with glue and good intentions because his mushroom pegs on his legs came right off when I took him out of the box or even my maketoys pandeus who had red paint smeared all over his face and it took 2 months to get a replacement face.
Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC. Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.
I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791190)
Posted by Va'al on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:04pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:04pm CDT
Sliding in here before the thread derails: topic is Victorion set!
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791191)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:14pm CDT
And yet you collect Hasbro figures.
So, every Tuesday then.
And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.
If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.
Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:14pm CDT
[/quote]Randomhero wrote:And f&$& 3rd parties.
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.
Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC.
And yet you collect Hasbro figures.
Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw
So, every Tuesday then.
but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.
And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.
If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.
I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.
Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791193)
Posted by Counterpunch on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:17pm CDT
I had really hoped that a flagship figure like this set would be free from assembly errors.
Consider that two instances of this mold (three if you count Bludgeon) have been issue free. Something changed in the factory instructions. It really shouldn't have happened.
Edit: Probably explains this picture from Botcon too...
Consider that two instances of this mold (three if you count Bludgeon) have been issue free. Something changed in the factory instructions. It really shouldn't have happened.
Edit: Probably explains this picture from Botcon too...
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791199)
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:40pm CDT
And yet you collect Hasbro figures.
So, every Tuesday then.
And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.
If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.
Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)[/quote]
Then why continue being a fan and continue collecting? I stopped and don't buy from 3p. However you continue at the end of the day if you don't like what the company is creating anymore than maybe it's time to pause, take a breath and say "I think I'm done"
Posted by Randomhero on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:40pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:Randomhero wrote:And f&$& 3rd parties.
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.
Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC.
And yet you collect Hasbro figures.
Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw
So, every Tuesday then.
but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.
And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.
If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.
I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.
Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)[/quote]
Then why continue being a fan and continue collecting? I stopped and don't buy from 3p. However you continue at the end of the day if you don't like what the company is creating anymore than maybe it's time to pause, take a breath and say "I think I'm done"
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791201)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:43pm CDT
Then why continue being a fan and continue collecting?[/quote]
I barely collect anything these days to be honest. Nowadays I largely collect older figures (from when HasTak's plastic quality wasn't total cack). In future most of my TF purchases will be 3P most likely. I know for certain I'm never collecting official combiners again, unless the MP line releases them.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:43pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:Randomhero wrote:And f&$& 3rd parties.
Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups.Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC.
And yet you collect Hasbro figures.Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw
So, every Tuesday then.but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.
And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.
If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.
Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)
Then why continue being a fan and continue collecting?[/quote]
I barely collect anything these days to be honest. Nowadays I largely collect older figures (from when HasTak's plastic quality wasn't total cack). In future most of my TF purchases will be 3P most likely. I know for certain I'm never collecting official combiners again, unless the MP line releases them.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791202)
Posted by Va'al on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:46pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:46pm CDT
Hey, Delta Magnus, Randomhero, enough. Thank you.
Next post not on topic gets a warning.
Next post not on topic gets a warning.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791203)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:49pm CDT
Mine are very tight too. So the misassembly is really no issue here!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 20th, 2016 @ 2:49pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Slashercon wrote:My Pyra Magna figure is also misassembled.
They won't. I just got line and her legs are misassembled too but they're surprisingly tight so I'm quite alread with it.
Mine are very tight too. So the misassembly is really no issue here!
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791243)
Posted by Slashercon on May 20th, 2016 @ 5:23pm CDT
The joints on my Magna's knees are tight enough to stand up without vigorous shaking, but I still don't like that she wasn't assembled correctly.
Posted by Slashercon on May 20th, 2016 @ 5:23pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:Slashercon wrote:My Pyra Magna figure is also misassembled.
They won't. I just got line and her legs are misassembled too but they're surprisingly tight so I'm quite alread with it.
Mine are very tight too. So the misassembly is really no issue here!
The joints on my Magna's knees are tight enough to stand up without vigorous shaking, but I still don't like that she wasn't assembled correctly.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791244)
Posted by Slashercon on May 20th, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
Posted by Slashercon on May 20th, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
Honestly, I find Jumpstream to be more hectic, as she can't roll in vehicle mode what with her undercarriage. properly and her chest doesn't tab in correctly either.
Fun fact: My Dustup figure doesn't have as many problems as the original Breakdown figure I have, so this makes her the only figure in the bunch that I consider an improvement on a previous mold, quality control wise.
As for Skybrust, the front half of her head fell off when I turned her head for the first time when transforming her. I put it back on and it hasn't fallen off since, but still. :/
Fun fact: My Dustup figure doesn't have as many problems as the original Breakdown figure I have, so this makes her the only figure in the bunch that I consider an improvement on a previous mold, quality control wise.
As for Skybrust, the front half of her head fell off when I turned her head for the first time when transforming her. I put it back on and it hasn't fallen off since, but still. :/
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791585)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 22nd, 2016 @ 1:29am CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on May 22nd, 2016 @ 1:29am CDT
Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791594)
Posted by King Kuuga on May 22nd, 2016 @ 2:32am CDT
Combiner Wars is basically done after this, Computron, and Liokaiser, and all of those are box sets. Individual releases will be Titans Return and RID figures with their appropriate line's gimmicks, not single packed versions of CW box set figures. Either get the box set and try to sell it off without the torso, or find a website breaking up the box sets. There will not be an individual retail release.
Posted by King Kuuga on May 22nd, 2016 @ 2:32am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.
Combiner Wars is basically done after this, Computron, and Liokaiser, and all of those are box sets. Individual releases will be Titans Return and RID figures with their appropriate line's gimmicks, not single packed versions of CW box set figures. Either get the box set and try to sell it off without the torso, or find a website breaking up the box sets. There will not be an individual retail release.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791613)
Posted by Burn on May 22nd, 2016 @ 6:05am CDT
Posted by Burn on May 22nd, 2016 @ 6:05am CDT
First there were Titans Return Legends, and then there was Titans Return Fortress Maximus, and now as the weekend draws to a close we can report that the girls have arrived!
Thanks to Zommael of OzFormers, Victorion has been found at Toys 'R Us Maroochydore for $199.99AU.
Of course if Maroochydoreis a little too far from home for you, don't grab a plane ticket yet as a number of people on the Transformers Collectors Club Australia Facebook page have also reported finding them in Canberra, Aspley, and Townsville - a good indication that you'll be able to find them at most TRU's around Australia.
Found a new release figure? Then hit up our Sightings section and let us know about it!
Now if you'll excuse me, Burn needs to go sell some more News Crew souls to fund all these latest releases!
Thanks to Zommael of OzFormers, Victorion has been found at Toys 'R Us Maroochydore for $199.99AU.
Of course if Maroochydoreis a little too far from home for you, don't grab a plane ticket yet as a number of people on the Transformers Collectors Club Australia Facebook page have also reported finding them in Canberra, Aspley, and Townsville - a good indication that you'll be able to find them at most TRU's around Australia.
Found a new release figure? Then hit up our Sightings section and let us know about it!
Now if you'll excuse me, Burn needs to go sell some more News Crew souls to fund all these latest releases!
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791615)
Posted by william-james88 on May 22nd, 2016 @ 6:24am CDT
100% sure they wont release them individually. But keep an eye on e-bay in the next year, people might sell them individuallt there.
Posted by william-james88 on May 22nd, 2016 @ 6:24am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.
100% sure they wont release them individually. But keep an eye on e-bay in the next year, people might sell them individuallt there.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791620)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on May 22nd, 2016 @ 6:46am CDT
From what I've seen, people already are. Saw somebody selling Jumpstream the other day.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on May 22nd, 2016 @ 6:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.
100% sure they wont release them individually. But keep an eye on e-bay in the next year, people might sell them individuallt there.
From what I've seen, people already are. Saw somebody selling Jumpstream the other day.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791789)
Posted by Nophix on May 22nd, 2016 @ 7:52pm CDT
Posted by Nophix on May 22nd, 2016 @ 7:52pm CDT
Looks like people on eBay are breaking up sets and selling individual figures if that's what you need.
I'm hoping she'll be in stock for a while. Emergency car repairs killed my budget for a bit.
I'm hoping she'll be in stock for a while. Emergency car repairs killed my budget for a bit.
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791801)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 22nd, 2016 @ 8:34pm CDT
So not only has Burn posted news I think twice in the past week, but now he is selling our souls? Thank Primus I'm ginger, no soul to sell here!
I've seen them being sold individually on Ebay. Not overly good prices, but they are there, all 6 of them.
did you have the car bots backwards? Dustup is the Dead end mold. And after some playing, Dustup now pegs in very nicely and holds together well
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 22nd, 2016 @ 8:34pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Now if you'll excuse me, Burn needs to go sell some more News Crew souls to fund all these latest releases!
So not only has Burn posted news I think twice in the past week, but now he is selling our souls? Thank Primus I'm ginger, no soul to sell here!
WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.
I've seen them being sold individually on Ebay. Not overly good prices, but they are there, all 6 of them.
Slashercon wrote:Honestly, I find Jumpstream to be more hectic, as she can't roll in vehicle mode what with her undercarriage. properly and her chest doesn't tab in correctly either.
Fun fact: My Dustup figure doesn't have as many problems as the original Breakdown figure I have, so this makes her the only figure in the bunch that I consider an improvement on a previous mold, quality control wise.
As for Skybrust, the front half of her head fell off when I turned her head for the first time when transforming her. I put it back on and it hasn't fallen off since, but still. :/
did you have the car bots backwards? Dustup is the Dead end mold. And after some playing, Dustup now pegs in very nicely and holds together well
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791939)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 23rd, 2016 @ 1:36pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 23rd, 2016 @ 1:36pm CDT
I'm sure there will be some repaints of these molds somewhere down the line. But will Takara be putting their spin on this set...anyone?? 
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791957)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 23rd, 2016 @ 3:39pm CDT
Really not sure at this point. they may, but Sky Reign is next on their list, so who knows
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 23rd, 2016 @ 3:39pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm sure there will be some repaints of these molds somewhere down the line. But will Takara be putting their spin on this set...anyone??
Really not sure at this point. they may, but Sky Reign is next on their list, so who knows
Re: Pictorial Review and Tips: Combiner Wars Fan Built Bot: Victorion and the Rust Renegades (1791968)
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 23rd, 2016 @ 4:18pm CDT
My guess is that they'll repaint Jumpstream as Arcee and Dustup as Nightbird. Maybe a remold of Pyra as Elita-1. The twin I don't know about, maybe versions of Roulette and Shadowstrike?
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 23rd, 2016 @ 4:18pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm sure there will be some repaints of these molds somewhere down the line. But will Takara be putting their spin on this set...anyone??
Really not sure at this point. they may, but Sky Reign is next on their list, so who knows
My guess is that they'll repaint Jumpstream as Arcee and Dustup as Nightbird. Maybe a remold of Pyra as Elita-1. The twin I don't know about, maybe versions of Roulette and Shadowstrike?
