Photos from Transformers: The Last Knight London Premiere

But they used this "The Final Chapter" thing already... Twice. Bay is leaving Transformers since 2011, why we should take this now seriously.

Right now, I'm waiting for another "Michael Bay changed his mind" news. I wonder what can it be this time

After 10 years, Transformers without Micheal Bay sounds almost too good to be true. Even if we are watining for a better director since before first movie was relased.

TurboMMaster wrote:After 10 years, Transformers without Micheal Bay sounds almost too good to be true. Even if we are watining for a better director since before first movie was relased.

Well the next film is being made by the director of an Oscar nominated film so you are getting your wish.

Well, Bumblebee's spin-off isn't technically a main "Transformers" movie, so there is a risk, that until Transformers 2019, Michael Bay will decide to return, or that they decide to hire Jonathan Liebesman or someone similiar, so so movie would remain essentialy the same.

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TurboMMaster wrote:Well, Bumblebee's spin-off isn't technically a main "Transformers" movie, so there is a risk, that until Transformers 2019, Michael Bay will decide to return, or that they decide to hire Jonathan Liebesman or someone similiar, so so movie would remain essentialy the same.

Would you rather Zack Snyder?

william-james88 wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Well, Bumblebee's spin-off isn't technically a main "Transformers" movie, so there is a risk, that until Transformers 2019, Michael Bay will decide to return, or that they decide to hire Jonathan Liebesman or someone similiar, so so movie would remain essentialy the same.

Would you rather Zack Snyder?

Or Uwe Boll?

william-james88 wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Well, Bumblebee's spin-off isn't technically a main "Transformers" movie, so there is a risk, that until Transformers 2019, Michael Bay will decide to return, or that they decide to hire Jonathan Liebesman or someone similiar, so so movie would remain essentialy the same.

Would you rather Zack Snyder?

HELL NO! And I wouldn't want J.J. Abrams, Joss Whedon, or any other overrated self-important d-bag. Bring on someone who actually does science fiction for science fiction, not to try to simply achieve nerdgasms on screen. Too bad James Cameron is busy with the Avatar sequels. What is Ridley Scott doing? He's done with Alien and Blade Runner by now. Is he starting another Alien prequel so soon?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:Well, Bumblebee's spin-off isn't technically a main "Transformers" movie, so there is a risk, that until Transformers 2019, Michael Bay will decide to return, or that they decide to hire Jonathan Liebesman or someone similiar, so so movie would remain essentialy the same.

Would you rather Zack Snyder?

HELL NO! And I wouldn't want J.J. Abrams, Joss Whedon, or any other overrated self-important d-bag. Bring on someone who actually does science fiction for science fiction, not to try to simply achieve nerdgasms on screen. Too bad James Cameron is busy with the Avatar sequels. What is Ridley Scott doing? He's done with Alien and Blade Runner by now. Is he starting another Alien prequel so soon?

Brad Bird is a good choice for rich characterization.

Or if we wanted another director who specializes in stunning visuals (but coupled with an air of sophistication), Kenneth Branagh.

Sabrblade wrote:Or if we wanted another director who specializes in stunning visuals (but coupled with an air of sophistication), Kenneth Branagh.

While I would be all for that, something tells me he wouldnt do it unless he was Optimus prime

Bring on someone who actually does science fiction for science fiction, not to try to simply achieve nerdgasms on screen.

I agree, Transformers deserves someone who actually could understand a genre he used to direct.

get Patty Jenkins to make an Arcee movie

Stuartmaximus wrote:get Patty Jenkins to make an Arcee movie

That... could work. Considering Wonder Woman is the first good DC movie in a while, she seems to have a thing for fixing long-running movie franchises based on other media


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Stuartmaximus wrote:get Patty Jenkins to make an Arcee movie

personally i reckon she should do a TF reboot movie - female led or not.

to be fair to michael bay, the first film was enjoyable and i think the FX work really did bring the concept to life. Unfortunately the franchise fell into a bigger faster more and more cycle that used to be a cliche in hollywood. Sequels have improved over the last decade and franchises have become enjoyable but not all are equal... For every Guardians of the Galaxy 2 there's Pirates...

I'd like a director who understands geek movies better - how characterisation, story and lore are all huge parts of the experience and not only action sequences.

I'll go and watch the last knight at the cinema with an open mind but low expectations. I'm very interested in watching a properly shot 3d movie and not one done in post... and if all else fails, hopefully Freya has some good screen time.

We have two new promotional interview clips from USA Today. You can view them on their website:

Clip 1 features Josh Duhamel and Mark Wahlberg speaking of Bay and his Explosions!

Clip 2 features Mark Wahlberg and Michael Bay speaking of Sir Anthony Hopkins.

Enjoy!

I will share this video review of the movie which has no spoilers for the obvious reason that Nostalgia Critic chose to review it without even seeing it. I would be all for a video about predictions, but this one is beyond lame, not even an attempt at making a fun joke.
Plus, its hard to take his word for anything when he says Megatron is always sidelined by a more humanoid looking character and yet he shows Megatron as one of those humanoid looking characters. This is a nonsense review and it wasnt any fun to watch. I too could comment over trailers and just say what I am seeing.

william-james88 wrote:I will share this video review of the movie which has no spoilers for the obvious reason that Nostalgia Critic chose to review it without even seeing it. I would be all for a video about predictions, but this one is beyond lame, not even an attempt at making a fun joke.
Plus, its hard to take his word for anything when he says Megatron is always sidelined by a more humanoid looking character and yet he shows Megatron as one of those humanoid looking characters. This is a nonsense review and it wasnt any fun to watch. I too could comment over trailers and just say what I am seeing.

I kinda think you missed the entire point of the video - like he said, it's more an experiment and a spin on his tradition of reviewing the live-action movies since he's tired of reviewing them. Heck, you're proving his point by saying he's just describing the trailers - because his point is that this movie is likely going to be the exact same thing as the last movies. The entire video describes what happened in the other four movies, with the only specific details being Walberg and Knights - which you could switch out respectively with LaBeouf and Dinosaurs/Ancient pyramids/whatever. And I wouldn't call it nonsense for just a single little detail that in all likelihood is just a mistake - if you're resorting to nitpicks when the rest of the video is sound and accurate, that sounds like you've got a pretty weak argument. Everything he's saying is correct, so why do you dismiss the entire argument because of one single picture?

And I've gotta say... yeah, I completely agree with the video. I was thinking of linking it since it's my exact thoughts -- the movies are all basically the same thing with only tiny details or superficial layers switched out. The video is a commentary on the current Hollywood structure and how movie franchises - including and in specific reference to Transformers - continue to be put out despite little to no effort and thought being put into them and providing nothing substantial that hasn't been seen in the first one.

And for what it's worth I thought it was pretty damn funny - Nostalgia Critic's whole deal is over-exaggeration of emotional reactions and describing things in a ridiculous and sarcastic manner. If it's not your thing, fine; but don't say it didn't attempt humour just because the jokes didn't land with you. I got a hell of a lot more entertainment out of this than anything in the movies, I'll say that much.

I'm also not really sure why you're linking a video just to say you didn't like it. If you're at least just linking it to say you disagree with it or there's something brought up you want to discuss, fine; but if you do believe the video is pointless and provides no useless commentary, then what on earth is the point of bringing it up here and ranting about it? I could do that with anything; I could find some random person who doesn't like IDW's Till All Are One and say that what they said is pointless on TAAO's thread, but what would be the point if they didn't bring up anything that I feel could contribute to the discussion?

Even if they found a director that made the Transformers "look like they did back in the 80's", and "gave the TF's character" and "made a movie for the fans", the fanboys would still piss and moan.

Honestly, I think Bay has done a tremendous job and I had a gutful of the Bay bashing years ago. I've seen some piss and moan for years about Bay, completely over-looking the fact there are writers involved (who I feel are more to blame) but that didn't matter, they had to hate Bay.

I truly hope they do throw more money at Bay to bring him back, just to piss off the whiny fan boys even more.

But even if he doesn't come back, Bay may go away, unfortunately we'll be stuck with whiny fan boys because nothing will please them.

And at the end of the day, piss and moan about Bay, piss and moan about the movies ... you're still going to watch them.

To be honest, I'm actually kind of excited at the prospect of a Transformers film without Bay. While I doubt the writing would still not be good and would still have less-than-inspired plots and include embarrassing characters human and cybertronian alike, these are action movies - so primarily, I want to see good action. Bay only just managed to deliver on that in the first movie, and in the subsequent sequels proved that the tricks he had in the first movie were the only ones he actually had -- so it got rather dull and in many respects (Transformium in particular, though there are other aspects) it actually got worse. Seeing that slow motion shot of a Transformer jumping over something for the first time is awesome - when you see it a billion times after? Not so much. Same goes for most of the action; looks cool, but I've seen it so many times by now that it's a broken record. Compare to the Marvel movies, where they manage to use entertaining coreography and use each hero's powers and/or abilities in their own unique ways to create an amazing battlefield. Iron Man, Avengers, Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy; hell, even Ant-Man managed to be great at this. The only one I remember not particularly enjoying is Thor 2, and... well, yeah. Thor 2. It's pretty shit. Point is, the Marvel movies end up having very enjoyable action even though the stories and characters are never anything mindblowing (though I will say I find them likeable enough for a passing grade, unlike say Sam's parents or Drift or Skids).

So... yeah, a new director WOULD be fantastic to me. Even if they fall into the same trap as Bay and repeat cliches over and over and over in the subsequent sequels, at the very least we'd get something new and refreshing the first time round. If Bay doesn't go back on what he said and there is in fact a new director for TF7, I might be enticed to see it and would probably be more excited for it than any previous live-action Transformers movie. Heck, the Bumblebee movie is looking infinitely more promising due to the Kubo director coming in and the movie -allegedly- going for a different direction (something I don't particularly trust, but hopefully I'm proven wrong and we will get something new and awesome).

Also I know it wasn't aimed at me personally; but I'm actually not seeing TLK. The last one I saw in cinemas was Revenge of the Fallen; I only got to see Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction because it turned out they were on Netflix and that day I just really felt like inflicting pain upon my retinas. ... The plural IS 'retinas', right? It's not really a word I use a plural for a lot. Could've just said 'eyes', but that would just be lame...

PrymeStriker wrote:"The Final Chapter"

...The f*ck are they talking about?! There's three more damn movies ahead of us!

To be fair two of them are prequels (Transformers one is an Animated prequel set on Cybertron presumably during the war, and the Bee movie takes place in 1985)

I think people are overlooking that Lorenzo di Bonaventura makes a lot of the decisions that the fans hate (He doesn't really like the fans either) and he was always the guy I thought was the worse part instead of say Bay or the script writers.

Heck it was his idea to take two different movies and combine them into one making The last Knight which is probably why it's over complicated.

In my opinion he needs to leave more so then Bay or any of the writers.

Edit: Also doing some digging and it seems that he treats Peter Cullen like crap and never wanted him in the film to the point he attempted to sabotage his audition and apparently refused to let Peter voice both Optimus and Ironhide.

william-james88 wrote:I will share this video review of the movie which has no spoilers for the obvious reason that Nostalgia Critic chose to review it without even seeing it. I would be all for a video about predictions, but this one is beyond lame, not even an attempt at making a fun joke.
Plus, its hard to take his word for anything when he says Megatron is always sidelined by a more humanoid looking character and yet he shows Megatron as one of those humanoid looking characters. This is a nonsense review and it wasnt any fun to watch. I too could comment over trailers and just say what I am seeing.

Ugh I don't take anything Doug says seriously in regards to these films because he thinks that the people who enjoy the movies are morons and he belittles them too at any opportunity, also he keeps whining about them and constantly brings the movies up in unrelated reviews which is part of what made me stop watching his content in the first place.

Also his screaming schtick is annoying and old.

He is also a major hypocrite since his whole TMNT review basically was him saying "things change from the source material" and yet he doesn't think the same for the Transformers movies.

Then again this video only exists because he is falling out of relevancy and is doing everything to keep his channel alive.

Kurona wrote:I kinda think you missed the entire point of the video - like he said, it's more an experiment and a spin on his tradition of reviewing the live-action movies since he's tired of reviewing them. Heck, you're proving his point by saying he's just describing the trailers - because his point is that this movie is likely going to be the exact same thing as the last movies.

Sure but I want to be entertained when I watch this guy`s videos. This wasnt entertaining in the least. And there werent predictions. I wanted a full on prediction for his experiment to work but I didnt get anything substantial. As I said, I could do the same, and so could you, there was nothing fun or interesting here about his experiment.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I kinda think you missed the entire point of the video - like he said, it's more an experiment and a spin on his tradition of reviewing the live-action movies since he's tired of reviewing them. Heck, you're proving his point by saying he's just describing the trailers - because his point is that this movie is likely going to be the exact same thing as the last movies.

Sure but I want to be entertained when I watch this guy`s videos. This wasnt entertaining in the least. And there werent predictions. I wanted a full on prediction for his experiment to work but I didnt get anything substantial. As I said, I could do the same, and so could you, there was nothing fun or interesting here about his experiment.

But it was a prediction. His entire point is that with the precedence of how lazy and repetitive the previous movies were, you can easily predict what's going to happen aside from inconsequential details and superficial layers. How is it not a prediction? And personally I thought it was rather entertaining. The way he done it fit his style of humour and satire completely and it worked.

Though once again... I'm really not sure why it's being brought up here when it's not being used to say anything about the topic. It seems more like something that merits its own thread.

Kurona wrote: And personally I thought it was rather entertaining. The way he done it fit his style of humour and satire completely and it worked.

Nostalgia Critic, humor pick one.

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote: And personally I thought it was rather entertaining. The way he done it fit his style of humour and satire completely and it worked.

Nostalgia Critic, humor pick one.

Seems pretty subjective to me. Though I personally think it works out well and he manages to give a new spin on things from a meta perspective to stop it from getting stale.

Though, once again, how is this remotely on-topic?

Sigh, movie assholes.

I am pretty much with Burn here. mostly, not entirely, but basically.

By this time tomorrow, I will have seen and most likely enjoyed the movie for what I enjoy it for. So yeah.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:By this time tomorrow, I will have seen and most likely enjoyed the movie for what I enjoy it for. So yeah.

*slaps a Temporary Moderator Badge on D-Max*

Your monkeys until the weekend. I ain't coming in here after tomorrow.

Thanks to an article from The Hollywood Reporter, we have news that China's Dalian Wanda Group has joined the advertising for the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight film. Wanda is set to advertise for the movie throughout China, using a vast array of promotional movie material. The firm is the 3rd to join the advertising side of the movie, following the Weying Technology and Huahua Media. The film is now playing, so head on out and check out the movie for yourselves!

Wanda will market and promote the film in China through its vast cinema network, while also serving as a merchandising partner in the country. Financial terms weren't disclosed.

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Wanda is the third Chinese firm to board Transformers 5. Last week, Weying Technology bought a stake in the film, saying it was entitled to an undisclosed share of global revenue for the movie, including theatrical, video, TV, VOD and merchandising. Chinese film company Huahua Media, which served as a marketing partner on Transformers 4, announced an unspecified stake in the new film at a Shanghai signing ceremony in December.

One more thing about that Nostalgia Critic video: It's not a review episode, it's an editorial episode. His review episodes are for entertainment purposes, while his editorial episodes vary from different purposes depending one the subject of each editorial. In this case, it was one of his editorials meant for thought-provoking purposes.

And frankly, given just how much on the nose he was with describing the contents of this movie that we've seen in all the trailers so far in the same vein as the similar contents of the previous films, I really am not expecting his predictions to be that far off from the final product.

Bronzewolf wrote:Has it been too long since you've seen Age of Extinction? Need a crash course before you walk in to The Last Knight? Just want to see it one more time? Have you seen it too many times? Well I can't help you there BUT for all those other situations, let me point you toward a deal that RedBox is currently putting on: If you rent AOE, you'll get a code via email for $5 dollars off your TLK movie ticket!

This deal comes to us from Seibertron himself, who provided a photo of the Redbox, featuring posters for the discount and everything!

Has anybody else here tried this yet? I just rented AOE from RedBox earlier this evening (a few hours ago) hoping to get the $5 off promo code, and submitted my email address as well, but have yet to receive any email about it. All I've gotten so far are one email confirming my rental purchase, another asking me to confirm my email address for a Free Movie Night promo code, and a third email with said promo code (but which isn't for the $5 off my TLK movie ticket). How long does it take for the $5-off email to come?

There was an expectation for Tyrese Gibson to rejoin Josh Duhamel for Transformers: The Last Knight - as his character from the 2007 movie, Revenge of the Fallen and Dark of the Moon - but plans did not go as ..well, planned. Due to scheduling conflicts, Gibson was taken up by Fast 8 during the location shootings for TLK, and it just didn't work out. Read more below, and here for the full piece!

“I’m not in the next one,” he explained. “So the truth is when we were shooting Fast 8, I closed my deal for Transformers 5, and I was supposed to go from Fast 8 to T5.

“But because they shot a lot of the movie in Europe, my schedule didn’t allow for me to go from Atlanta to London in between those days.

“I mean, I was p****d. The goal was for me and Josh Duhamel to come back and surprise the fans, that two of the guys from the original Transformers were back. Josh Duhamel was available and I wasn’t. So I was p****d.”

I read this last night and I swear he was in a trailer! I thought he was the dude who says "were going home izzy!" I guess I not! It's a shame but hopefully he can come back in another one.

*SPOILERS*




Reviews for the new flick have started to emerge on youtube
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yfqAQEc8Fk[/youtube]

YouTuber "George Sartiano" has done a review of the film called "Transformers: The Last Knight Review (Rant)"

As fellow Seibertronian Clockwork Animations rightly points out, it looks like Paramount may be trying for the 50 clips prior to worldwide release for Transformers: The Last Knight! The latest one, embedded below, features Cogman playing the organ, alongside old footage. But there are also three more, featuring Hot Rod (with Omar Sy's voice), Drift, Hopkins and Haddock and Wahlberg, more Cogman and general Bayhem, bringing us up to 46 or 47 clips by now - check them all out below!

Might go see TLK tonite. Last I heard my theater was playing it tomorrow. Guess it depends on what my friends would like to do really. (But if no one communicates then I am gonna go, no time to waste on people being indecisive!)

A friend of mine heard from somewhere that there's going to be a total of 14 tf movies. But the tv spots for t5 have been saying "experience the final chapter". I'm confused. Will there be anymore movies after the Bumblebee spin-off?

robotcaveman wrote:A friend of mine heard from somewhere that there's going to be a total of 14 tf movies.

That's false. 14 ideas for the fifth movie were proposed by the writers' room, not 14 movies.

robotcaveman wrote:A friend of mine heard from somewhere that there's going to be a total of 14 tf movies. But the tv spots for t5 have been saying "experience the final chapter". I'm confused. Will there be anymore movies after the Bumblebee spin-off?

There is not going to be 14 movies whoever told you this is either lying or misinformed.

The only actually planned movies we know of are the two spin off films (The bumblebee movie, and Transformers one which is an animated prequel set on Cybertron presumably during the war) and the sequel to this movie Transformers 6 (7?)

The final chapter thing probably means either the fact this is Bay's last movie or that the next film is part 2 of TLK and that is the last movie not including spin offs.

Sabrblade wrote:

robotcaveman wrote:A friend of mine heard from somewhere that there's going to be a total of 14 tf movies.

That's false. 14 ideas for the fifth movie were proposed by the writers' room, not 14 movies.

And two of those ideas were "crash combined" into TLK. (I think the two ideas were War world 2 and knights but I'm not sure)


Thanks Lorenzo.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

robotcaveman wrote:A friend of mine heard from somewhere that there's going to be a total of 14 tf movies.

That's false. 14 ideas for the fifth movie were proposed by the writers' room, not 14 movies.

And two of those ideas were "crash combined" into TLK. (I think the two ideas were War world 2 and knights but I'm not sure)


Thanks Lorenzo.

Three ideas: King Arthur, WWII, and a continuation of AOE's Creators/Knights subplot.

Sabrblade wrote:Three ideas: King Arthur, WWII, and a continuation of AOE's Creators/Knights subplot.

I mean isn't the first and the last one the same thing.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Three ideas: King Arthur, WWII, and a continuation of AOE's Creators/Knights subplot.

I mean isn't the first and the last one the same thing.

Quintessa is King Arthur?

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Three ideas: King Arthur, WWII, and a continuation of AOE's Creators/Knights subplot.

I mean isn't the first and the last one the same thing.

Quintessa is King Arthur?

I thought she was the lady of the lake eh?

Apparently there is this unnamed excavator Autobot at the junkyard who doesn't speak and has less screen time then Jolt in ROTF... but why does he even exist?

While 14 movies was confirmed as miscommunication and misunderstanding of there being 14 ideas, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we ended up with 14 or more. We're already at 9 and these movies keep getting made with no sign of stopping...

Kurona wrote:While 14 movies was confirmed as miscommunication and misunderstanding of there being 14 ideas, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we ended up with 14 or more. We're already at 9 and these movies keep getting made with no sign of stopping...

What's the 9'th?

I mean It's possible and we are definitely at 6 since Bee movie is probably already far in production but Transformers one and transformer 6 (7) could always be canned because the movie bombs and with the way reviews are going it seems that TLK might bomb.

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:While 14 movies was confirmed as miscommunication and misunderstanding of there being 14 ideas, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we ended up with 14 or more. We're already at 9 and these movies keep getting made with no sign of stopping...

What's the 9'th?

I mean It's possible and we are definitely at 6 since Bee movie is probably already far in production but Transformers one and transformer 6 (7) could always be canned because the movie bombs and with the way reviews are going it seems that TLK might bomb.

We don't know anything about the 9th yet - considering how far away it'd be, I'd be surprised if we had anything at all - but I remember it being confirmed that there are four movies confirmed to be coming after TLK.

These movies get negative reviews all the time - didn't stop all of them from breaking box office records. Maybe 5th time's the charm, but I doubt negative reviews will culminate in TLK bombing.

So this movie has a 13 percent on RT right now which is lower from ROTF and AOE's 19 and 18 percent.

I'm calling Bull since everyone believes Bay's the god damn devil.

Why do people expect more out of transforming robot action movie Transformers as an idea will never be good only entertaining just like how every cartoon has been objectively bad but entertaining even if Bay and every other person left the film or if Disney made them they would still be the same!

It god damn bombed and with the lackluster mostly unknown Rid cartoon and the dwindling comic sales this franchise is going to crash and burn and end just like GI Joe and every other "franchise" Hasbro has made into films.


And people think the Star Wars films are "good" instead of just simply entertaining.

Is it true that Optimus takes up the mantle of The Fallen/Shockwave/Dinobots in this movie? Pulls in short appearance(s) in the start or middle of the movie but mostly appears at the end?

Kurona wrote:Is it true that Optimus takes up the mantle of The Fallen/Shockwave/Dinobots in this movie? Pulls in short appearance(s) in the start or middle of the movie but mostly appears at the end?

He's in the film for like 10-15 minutes but with his role what else would he do.

He's not even on Earth as far as I know so any character in his place would have a shorter role.