Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer
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We have some more news on the Paramount plans to expand the Transformers cinematic universe, thanks once more to media and entertainment website Deadline: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer were just announced as joining the ever-growing writers' room headed by Akiva Goldsman. Read on more here and below to find out what these latest additions can bring to the potential projects!
Paramount Pictures and Michael Bay have added the first two female screenwriters to the brain trust of writers who’ll hatch Transformers sequels, prequels and spinoffs under the supervision of Akiva Goldsman. Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer have both joined the group that will help craft ideas to expand the universe of the Hasbro toy line, then go off and write them. Hodson most recently got hired to write a new version of The Fugitive for Warner Bros and producer Arnold Kopelson. She previously scripted the spec The Eden Project, which Sony bought for Material Pictures, and her script Shut In just wrapped with Naomi Watts starring and BAFTA-winner Farren Blackburn directing for Lava Bear and Europacorp. The CAA and Kaplan/Perrone-repped scribe also scripted Unforgettable for Warner Bros and is developing a pilot for FX. She has hit the Black List with her scripts three different times.
WME-repped Beer writes in multiple genres, but most frequently comedy and fantasy drama. She has several features set up around town, including a live-action family adventure story at Disney called Dig, which she sold on spec with Whitaker Entertainment producing. She did work on Short Circuit for The Weinstein Company and her rated-R genre-bending comedy How To Nail An Alien is being developed at Atlas, and her script Electric is also with Whitaker. She’s currently working on a re-imagined The Wizard Of Oz for Warner Bros. with Vertigo. Black Label Media is producing and financing her project Sierra Burgess Is A Loser. Beer is the daughter of Sundance co-founder Gary Beer, and has the necessary background if Paramount wants to blind them with science in these Transformers films: she studied neuroscience and the intersection of technology and society at Stanford.
Credit(s): Deadline
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Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693574)
Posted by frogbat on June 2nd, 2015 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by frogbat on June 2nd, 2015 @ 2:37pm CDT
I'm glad they're building a writers room and one that includes women. I found the previous lot pretty exploitative and the last one's female character was just awful so hopefully their input will help in that area too besides that thing known as a plot.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693595)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 2nd, 2015 @ 3:26pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 2nd, 2015 @ 3:26pm CDT
I care more if they're good writers or not than what genitals they have.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693603)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 3:39pm CDT
I mostly agree. Woman sometimes have a different writing style, and it's always nice to provide equal opportunity. But in the end I hope all of these writers deliver great quality work
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 3:39pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:I care more if they're good writers or not than what genitals they have.
I mostly agree. Woman sometimes have a different writing style, and it's always nice to provide equal opportunity. But in the end I hope all of these writers deliver great quality work
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693626)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:22pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:22pm CDT
The writer doesn't matter to me too much. The worst writer in the world could make a hit with the right subject, so to me, you can never really know. There have been amazing writers who wrote very bad stories and vice versa.
I do like the diversity though. lets get some new opinions!
I do like the diversity though. lets get some new opinions!
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693632)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:59pm CDT
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:59pm CDT
Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.
Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.
Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693729)
Posted by Deadput on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:38pm CDT
Well say good bye to IDW comics then.
You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?
Posted by Deadput on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:38pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.
Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.
Well say good bye to IDW comics then.
You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693747)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
I'd rather have the comics than the movies.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.
Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.
Well say good bye to IDW comics then.
You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?
I'd rather have the comics than the movies.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693774)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:46pm CDT
doesnt have to be comic related, maybe do their own version......but forget i brought it up cuz it aint happening lol
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:46pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.
Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.
Well say good bye to IDW comics then.
You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?
doesnt have to be comic related, maybe do their own version......but forget i brought it up cuz it aint happening lol
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693792)
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:23am CDT
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:23am CDT
You say get rid of Bay and hire different writers, wouldn't you want to get rid of the current writer first?
It's always Bay Bay Bay with you "Bayformer haters", but rarely do I encounter someone who acknowledges the writer is more to blame.
It's always Bay Bay Bay with you "Bayformer haters", but rarely do I encounter someone who acknowledges the writer is more to blame.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693794)
Posted by JazZeke on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:32am CDT
Posted by JazZeke on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:32am CDT
Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.
Not saying that the writer doesn't hold some responsibility over the script, but even a beautiful, vivid painting will look like crap if viewed through stained, cracked smoked glass.
Not saying that the writer doesn't hold some responsibility over the script, but even a beautiful, vivid painting will look like crap if viewed through stained, cracked smoked glass.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693798)
Posted by King Kuuga on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:57am CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:57am CDT
Scripts are written to the specifications of the other crew, like the director and producers. And then, when filming, a director chooses how they want to film the scene; what they want to emphasize, where objects are placed, the framing, how things pan, how wide or narrow the focus is, and they tell that to the director of photography this and then they and their crew make it actually happen. The director usually has chief creative control over most aspects of the movie, which is why they are top billed. Obviously there's some exceptions, but that's the situation in the majority of cases, from my understanding of film.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693800)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:02am CDT
I'll say this much on the matter. Bay might not be solely to blame, but he is more or less one of the main causes. Frankly, Spielberg, the writers, the military, even Paramount itself...they all played a part in the kind of TF movies we got since ROTF.
Spielberg: Roped Bay in to directing Transformers in 2007, despite Bay's self-consciousness and undisguised dislike of the TF franchise. Bay was just following orders without passion or enthusiasm when filming the first movie, and did it for the paychecks in the following ones.
Military: They know Bay makes them look good, and are willing to exchange their cooperation and free manpower for looking good in his movies. That's partly the reason why the Decepticons look like incompetent chumps while the army can seemingly kickass all on their own without the Autobots doing much.
Paramount: While perfectly understandable, they won't want to change a thing as long as TF movies still make a decent buck. While they don't make as many ticket sales in the US, China has become their new target audience, which keeps the wheels spinning.
Bay: I used to loathe him. But now, I just feel bad for him (or rather, I would if the lucky bast@rd didn't make so much money). He never wanted to make these TF movies, and he still doesn't. Poor f**ker's just doing his job (though I wish he'd stop), and if the critics had little respect for him before, they have even less respect for him now.
And as of AoE, he's showing signs of creative exhaustion. Despite the explosions and the flashy cars, it's just feels hollow.
Writers: Part of the cause lies with Bay's attitude towards the TF movies, which "infects" the mindset of the writers. Kruger made it pretty clear in his infamous "you make your peace with the fact that logic isn't the be all end all" line. If the director doesn't take a movie's universe seriously, the rest will start asking themselves, "why should we?"
That said, it's no excuse to slack off just because the director does.
TL;DR, Bay is indeed responsible for a lot of the things that are wrong with the TF movies, but circumstances and higher ups are equally to blame.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:02am CDT
Burn wrote:You say get rid of Bay and hire different writers, wouldn't you want to get rid of the current writer first?
It's always Bay Bay Bay with you "Bayformer haters", but rarely do I encounter someone who acknowledges the writer is more to blame.
I'll say this much on the matter. Bay might not be solely to blame, but he is more or less one of the main causes. Frankly, Spielberg, the writers, the military, even Paramount itself...they all played a part in the kind of TF movies we got since ROTF.
Spielberg: Roped Bay in to directing Transformers in 2007, despite Bay's self-consciousness and undisguised dislike of the TF franchise. Bay was just following orders without passion or enthusiasm when filming the first movie, and did it for the paychecks in the following ones.
Military: They know Bay makes them look good, and are willing to exchange their cooperation and free manpower for looking good in his movies. That's partly the reason why the Decepticons look like incompetent chumps while the army can seemingly kickass all on their own without the Autobots doing much.
Paramount: While perfectly understandable, they won't want to change a thing as long as TF movies still make a decent buck. While they don't make as many ticket sales in the US, China has become their new target audience, which keeps the wheels spinning.
Bay: I used to loathe him. But now, I just feel bad for him (or rather, I would if the lucky bast@rd didn't make so much money). He never wanted to make these TF movies, and he still doesn't. Poor f**ker's just doing his job (though I wish he'd stop), and if the critics had little respect for him before, they have even less respect for him now.
And as of AoE, he's showing signs of creative exhaustion. Despite the explosions and the flashy cars, it's just feels hollow.
Writers: Part of the cause lies with Bay's attitude towards the TF movies, which "infects" the mindset of the writers. Kruger made it pretty clear in his infamous "you make your peace with the fact that logic isn't the be all end all" line. If the director doesn't take a movie's universe seriously, the rest will start asking themselves, "why should we?"
That said, it's no excuse to slack off just because the director does.
TL;DR, Bay is indeed responsible for a lot of the things that are wrong with the TF movies, but circumstances and higher ups are equally to blame.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693805)
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:22am CDT
You base this paragraph on what?
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:22am CDT
JazZeke wrote:Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.
You base this paragraph on what?
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693835)
Posted by Lockdownhunter on June 3rd, 2015 @ 6:30am CDT
Posted by Lockdownhunter on June 3rd, 2015 @ 6:30am CDT
Hopefully the designs will improve.AOE Optimus has a good concept with a "less than great,but still all right" feel to the design.
Also, please hire a writer that can actually make a great story.New designers who can actually impress also should be taken into consideration.There is a reason why some people call "bayformers" terrible and ugly( not that I agree with them,but I strongly feel that the designs need to improve).
Also, please hire a writer that can actually make a great story.New designers who can actually impress also should be taken into consideration.There is a reason why some people call "bayformers" terrible and ugly( not that I agree with them,but I strongly feel that the designs need to improve).
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693875)
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:18am CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:18am CDT
I wonder...will this ensure that the future films will have strong female roles in which the characters are not heavily sexualized? Nah.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693879)
Posted by Rated X on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:23am CDT
Posted by Rated X on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:23am CDT
Wow she looks good. 
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693885)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:34am CDT
And now the films will be lauded as masterpieces of cinema and tentpegs for female representation in the film industry, even if they turn out exactly the same as the other ones. 
In all seriousness, I've nothing against new writers, female OR male. I just don't have a lot of hope for the films in general.
In all seriousness, I've nothing against new writers, female OR male. I just don't have a lot of hope for the films in general.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693889)
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:44am CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:44am CDT
Rated X wrote:Wow she looks good.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693892)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:49am CDT
Keep on chugging, X.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:49am CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:Wow she looks good.
Keep on chugging, X.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693898)
Posted by Shockwave7 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:55am CDT
Posted by Shockwave7 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:55am CDT
Doing another Fugitive, eh? I donno.... the 1993 version pretty much nailed it.
But unless the writers totally reboot the movies and broom everything that Michael Bay ever had to do with any of them, they're still going to be mediocre at best, and most likely sukky. We have intelligence guided by experience that tells us this.
But unless the writers totally reboot the movies and broom everything that Michael Bay ever had to do with any of them, they're still going to be mediocre at best, and most likely sukky. We have intelligence guided by experience that tells us this.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693899)
Posted by shockblast2 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by shockblast2 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:01am CDT
I am starting to wonder if this sites writers are not sexists. Why does it matter that they are female? Why would you say ROBOTS who are not biological nor reproduce are female or male? Why does it matter that IDW has a female writing cast on some of their books?
It is like a liberal racist media outlet claiming to not be racists, and yet, every article is pointing out the color of the skin of person featured.
It is like a liberal racist media outlet claiming to not be racists, and yet, every article is pointing out the color of the skin of person featured.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693902)
Posted by Convoy on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
Posted by Convoy on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
Shuttershock wrote:I just don't have a lot of hope for the films in general.
Blurr wrote:...there is no hope, no hope, no hope, no hope at all...
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693908)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:21am CDT
Some men... aren't looking for anything logical, Master Wayne.
Some men... just want to watch the world burn.
...
with bewbs.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:21am CDT
Convoy wrote:Shuttershock wrote:I just don't have a lot of hope for the films in general.Blurr wrote:...there is no hope, no hope, no hope, no hope at all...
Some men... aren't looking for anything logical, Master Wayne.
Some men... just want to watch the world burn.
...
with bewbs.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693917)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:34am CDT
I wish Jon Bailey read that sentence.
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:34am CDT
Shuttershock wrote:Convoy wrote:Shuttershock wrote:I just don't have a lot of hope for the films in general.Blurr wrote:...there is no hope, no hope, no hope, no hope at all...
Some men... aren't looking for anything logical, Master Wayne.
Some men... just want to watch the world burn.
...
with bewbs.
I wish Jon Bailey read that sentence.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693923)
Posted by Xephon0930 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:52am CDT
Posted by Xephon0930 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:52am CDT
We want more Fembots who actually have lines and not one off appearances.
Wingblade seems to be in fan favor at the moment.
Wingblade seems to be in fan favor at the moment.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693928)
Posted by JazZeke on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:04am CDT
http://www.cracked.com/article_19012_5- ... -suck.html
Posted by JazZeke on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:04am CDT
Burn wrote:JazZeke wrote:Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.
You base this paragraph on what?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19012_5- ... -suck.html
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693929)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:05am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:05am CDT
I'm under no illusion that Bay is the sole problem with these films, knowing full well that the writers and producers are likewise an issue.
Looking at these films, a lot of folks say that if took away Bay's special touches (like the excessive toilet humor or Optimus's viciousness) then they would improve. I'm about to cite an example that completely proves the contrary: The ROTF comic adaptation.
Written by Transformers comic scribe Simon Furman, he made an intent on writing that adaptation with nearly all traces of the film special brand of "humor" excised and removed. He also diminished Optimus's hostility towards the Decepticons, like in the fight against Demolishor he had Optimus express regret in having to use force to stop Demolishor's rampage, and he didn't blast Demolishor in the face, with the Decepticon instead dying from his wounds in the battle, making "The Fallen shall rise again..." being his dying words before death instead of Optimus gunning him in the face.
Even Optimus's death was changed into being "not quite dead yet", giving greater hope for Sam to want to revive him.
On paper, this sounds... at the very least, interesting, at most, promising. It sounds like Furman knew what a lot of fans wouldn't like and made the changes he felt were necessary to make his comic a better-received product, right?
Eeeuuuuuurrrrgghh, well, not really. See, reading that ROTF comic adaptation with all the "bad stuff" taken out just left a still very boring, confusing, lifeless story of uninteresting characters, lacking in anything really substantial or worthwhile.
This reveals that, at its core, ROTF's substance lies not in its story or its characters, but in its special effects (which naturally couldn't be replicated in comic form) and its fetishes for uber violence, sexual innuedos, and being as gross as can be.
Now while this may seem like I'm harping on Bay for the fetish content, my main point is how the story material itself that came from the writers (what little there was since, yes, I'm aware that the writer's stike left Bay to write a lot of it himself, but there was still enough of it written by Orci, Kurtzman, and Kruger) is really no better off with or without Bay's involvement since, at its core, the story they wrote was boring, confusing, and lifeless.
Bay can only do so much with a bad story and, when people say things like "Bay can take a good story and make it bad", ROTF is the end result of the story being dull even before you add Bay to the equation.
Looking at these films, a lot of folks say that if took away Bay's special touches (like the excessive toilet humor or Optimus's viciousness) then they would improve. I'm about to cite an example that completely proves the contrary: The ROTF comic adaptation.
Written by Transformers comic scribe Simon Furman, he made an intent on writing that adaptation with nearly all traces of the film special brand of "humor" excised and removed. He also diminished Optimus's hostility towards the Decepticons, like in the fight against Demolishor he had Optimus express regret in having to use force to stop Demolishor's rampage, and he didn't blast Demolishor in the face, with the Decepticon instead dying from his wounds in the battle, making "The Fallen shall rise again..." being his dying words before death instead of Optimus gunning him in the face.
Even Optimus's death was changed into being "not quite dead yet", giving greater hope for Sam to want to revive him.
On paper, this sounds... at the very least, interesting, at most, promising. It sounds like Furman knew what a lot of fans wouldn't like and made the changes he felt were necessary to make his comic a better-received product, right?
Eeeuuuuuurrrrgghh, well, not really. See, reading that ROTF comic adaptation with all the "bad stuff" taken out just left a still very boring, confusing, lifeless story of uninteresting characters, lacking in anything really substantial or worthwhile.
This reveals that, at its core, ROTF's substance lies not in its story or its characters, but in its special effects (which naturally couldn't be replicated in comic form) and its fetishes for uber violence, sexual innuedos, and being as gross as can be.
Now while this may seem like I'm harping on Bay for the fetish content, my main point is how the story material itself that came from the writers (what little there was since, yes, I'm aware that the writer's stike left Bay to write a lot of it himself, but there was still enough of it written by Orci, Kurtzman, and Kruger) is really no better off with or without Bay's involvement since, at its core, the story they wrote was boring, confusing, and lifeless.
Bay can only do so much with a bad story and, when people say things like "Bay can take a good story and make it bad", ROTF is the end result of the story being dull even before you add Bay to the equation.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693934)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:17am CDT
Women are incredibly under-represented in both the film and comic (and a great many other) industries. Having female writers not only helps break the mold and make it easier for other women to enter the industry, moving further towards equality in that respect, but also hopefully will result (and very much has done already with IDW) in greater representation of women in films and comics, giving us more diversity and strong female characters who can not only demonstrate that women can be equal to men, but also can serve as role models for female fans of the franchise to look up to and relate to.
(The exact same principle applies to other minorities such as people of colour, as you describe.)
(Also, forgive me but either I'm starting to lose it at last or there's already a news article about this? It may well be that this article has new details/information discovered since the earlier one and I've somehow missed that fact, if so I apologise ^^' )
Posted by ArmadaPrime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:17am CDT
shockblast2 wrote:I am starting to wonder if this sites writers are not sexists. Why does it matter that they are female? Why would you say ROBOTS who are not biological nor reproduce are female or male? Why does it matter that IDW has a female writing cast on some of their books?
It is like a liberal racist media outlet claiming to not be racists, and yet, every article is pointing out the color of the skin of person featured.
Women are incredibly under-represented in both the film and comic (and a great many other) industries. Having female writers not only helps break the mold and make it easier for other women to enter the industry, moving further towards equality in that respect, but also hopefully will result (and very much has done already with IDW) in greater representation of women in films and comics, giving us more diversity and strong female characters who can not only demonstrate that women can be equal to men, but also can serve as role models for female fans of the franchise to look up to and relate to.
(The exact same principle applies to other minorities such as people of colour, as you describe.)
(Also, forgive me but either I'm starting to lose it at last or there's already a news article about this? It may well be that this article has new details/information discovered since the earlier one and I've somehow missed that fact, if so I apologise ^^' )
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693949)
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:58am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:58am CDT
There was a mix-up on our part, and the post was reported twice. We apologise.
The conversations have been merged into the existing thread.
The conversations have been merged into the existing thread.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1693957)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 12:25pm CDT
Ignoring/"being blind to" race and gender does not make a person "above it all" anyway. Acknowledging it to further the story along is exactly that... to further the story. I don't think Shockblast knows what sexism/racism is.
Also, unless all TransFormers look like generic 1950's robots, they have gender. Eliminating fembots because "they don't reproduce" leaves masculine robots, which IS sexist.
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 12:25pm CDT
ArmadaPrime wrote:shockblast2 wrote:I am starting to wonder if this sites writers are not sexists. Why does it matter that they are female? Why would you say ROBOTS who are not biological nor reproduce are female or male? Why does it matter that IDW has a female writing cast on some of their books?
It is like a liberal racist media outlet claiming to not be racists, and yet, every article is pointing out the color of the skin of person featured.
Women are incredibly under-represented in both the film and comic (and a great many other) industries. Having female writers not only helps break the mold and make it easier for other women to enter the industry, moving further towards equality in that respect, but also hopefully will result (and very much has done already with IDW) in greater representation of women in films and comics, giving us more diversity and strong female characters who can not only demonstrate that women can be equal to men, but also can serve as role models for female fans of the franchise to look up to and relate to.
(The exact same principle applies to other minorities such as people of colour, as you describe.)
(Also, forgive me but either I'm starting to lose it at last or there's already a news article about this? It may well be that this article has new details/information discovered since the earlier one and I've somehow missed that fact, if so I apologise ^^' )
Ignoring/"being blind to" race and gender does not make a person "above it all" anyway. Acknowledging it to further the story along is exactly that... to further the story. I don't think Shockblast knows what sexism/racism is.
Also, unless all TransFormers look like generic 1950's robots, they have gender. Eliminating fembots because "they don't reproduce" leaves masculine robots, which IS sexist.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694038)
Posted by Convoy on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
Not this again.
Imagine The Transformers as an insect hive with a queen bee known as Primus. This may not even 'bee' the best analogy. Maybe like computers with male and female ports would be a better comparison? I don't even think Star Trek's Borg make a good comparison because they're based on biological species. Even Gobots are cyborgs. Maybe Terminator with mama Skynet? (Still designed by sexy humans.)
Sex and gender are not synonyms. Dictionary.com is free, people!
I don't have all the answers. Transformers could very well be their own all new thing still evolving.
Really, it comes down to the writers who felt ignoring the whole issue was the best course of action for decades. They're ROBOTS. Robots In Disguise!
Who knows?
Some things are better off left unexplained.
Fake Edit: We should just have sentient alien machines writing this stuff. They know better than we how it all works.
Real Edit: Robot in Czech basically translates to Slave.
Double Edit: Following that logic and considering vehicles as machines that are manually operated slaves/robots, the humanoid altmodes could actually be considered the disguise.
Posted by Convoy on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:ArmadaPrime wrote:shockblast2 wrote:I am starting to wonder if this sites writers are not sexists. Why does it matter that they are female? Why would you say ROBOTS who are not biological nor reproduce are female or male? Why does it matter that IDW has a female writing cast on some of their books?
It is like a liberal racist media outlet claiming to not be racists, and yet, every article is pointing out the color of the skin of person featured.
Women are incredibly under-represented in both the film and comic (and a great many other) industries. Having female writers not only helps break the mold and make it easier for other women to enter the industry, moving further towards equality in that respect, but also hopefully will result (and very much has done already with IDW) in greater representation of women in films and comics, giving us more diversity and strong female characters who can not only demonstrate that women can be equal to men, but also can serve as role models for female fans of the franchise to look up to and relate to.
(The exact same principle applies to other minorities such as people of colour, as you describe.)
(Also, forgive me but either I'm starting to lose it at last or there's already a news article about this? It may well be that this article has new details/information discovered since the earlier one and I've somehow missed that fact, if so I apologise ^^' )
Ignoring/"being blind to" race and gender does not make a person "above it all" anyway. Acknowledging it to further the story along is exactly that... to further the story. I don't think Shockblast knows what sexism/racism is.
Also, unless all TransFormers look like generic 1950's robots, they have gender. Eliminating fembots because "they don't reproduce" leaves masculine robots, which IS sexist.
Not this again.
Imagine The Transformers as an insect hive with a queen bee known as Primus. This may not even 'bee' the best analogy. Maybe like computers with male and female ports would be a better comparison? I don't even think Star Trek's Borg make a good comparison because they're based on biological species. Even Gobots are cyborgs. Maybe Terminator with mama Skynet? (Still designed by sexy humans.)
Sex and gender are not synonyms. Dictionary.com is free, people!
I don't have all the answers. Transformers could very well be their own all new thing still evolving.
Really, it comes down to the writers who felt ignoring the whole issue was the best course of action for decades. They're ROBOTS. Robots In Disguise!
Who knows?
Some things are better off left unexplained.
Fake Edit: We should just have sentient alien machines writing this stuff. They know better than we how it all works.
Real Edit: Robot in Czech basically translates to Slave.
Double Edit: Following that logic and considering vehicles as machines that are manually operated slaves/robots, the humanoid altmodes could actually be considered the disguise.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694068)
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 4:23pm CDT
You say directors, but the only thing I see there is producers (big difference). Or did I miss something?
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 4:23pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:Burn wrote:JazZeke wrote:Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.
You base this paragraph on what?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19012_5- ... -suck.html
You say directors, but the only thing I see there is producers (big difference). Or did I miss something?
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694080)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 4:48pm CDT
the writers did a decent job with the story that wasnt the issue at all, it was bay that destoried their vesion, thats why they went off and did TFP. ive read many articles on how the script was torn apart, writers dont have that kinda power dude, sorry. I lived in hollywood for bit, i had many writer friends, none ever had power, not even the big name guys. Bay himself said he didnt care for TFs before he got the money. If ur director wasnt into what u were into, would u hire him........no me man, i want a guy that would share my vision as a producer etc. Bay basically made a shiny turd, polished it and called it TFs.
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 4:48pm CDT
Burn wrote:You say get rid of Bay and hire different writers, wouldn't you want to get rid of the current writer first?
It's always Bay Bay Bay with you "Bayformer haters", but rarely do I encounter someone who acknowledges the writer is more to blame.
the writers did a decent job with the story that wasnt the issue at all, it was bay that destoried their vesion, thats why they went off and did TFP. ive read many articles on how the script was torn apart, writers dont have that kinda power dude, sorry. I lived in hollywood for bit, i had many writer friends, none ever had power, not even the big name guys. Bay himself said he didnt care for TFs before he got the money. If ur director wasnt into what u were into, would u hire him........no me man, i want a guy that would share my vision as a producer etc. Bay basically made a shiny turd, polished it and called it TFs.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694081)
Posted by JazZeke on June 3rd, 2015 @ 4:48pm CDT
How about the commentary or wherever it was where Kruger and Bay discussed how they plotted out TFAoE--Bay came up with a bunch of action scenes he wanted to film, and then it was Kruger's job to string them together into something resembling a narrative.
Posted by JazZeke on June 3rd, 2015 @ 4:48pm CDT
Burn wrote:JazZeke wrote:Burn wrote:JazZeke wrote:Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.
You base this paragraph on what?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19012_5- ... -suck.html
You say directors, but the only thing I see there is producers (big difference). Or did I miss something?
How about the commentary or wherever it was where Kruger and Bay discussed how they plotted out TFAoE--Bay came up with a bunch of action scenes he wanted to film, and then it was Kruger's job to string them together into something resembling a narrative.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694087)
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 5:02pm CDT
Fact or opinion?
You're also only referring to Orci and Kurtzman, what about Kruger? He's still there.
And I'm sorry, but a writer HAS to have SOME form of responsibility. A Director can't just magic a story out of the air.
Never watched/listened to any of the commentary, but I never said a Director didn't have any input, I'm saying if people are going to blame Bay then they should also be blaming the writer as well.
But this is an old debate, people can think whatever the fuck they want, I don't really give a shit at the end of the day. I have my opinions and they won't be changing any time soon.
Posted by Burn on June 3rd, 2015 @ 5:02pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:the writers did a decent job with the story that wasnt the issue at all, it was bay that destoried their vesion, thats why they went off and did TFP.
Fact or opinion?
You're also only referring to Orci and Kurtzman, what about Kruger? He's still there.
And I'm sorry, but a writer HAS to have SOME form of responsibility. A Director can't just magic a story out of the air.
JazZeke wrote:How about the commentary or wherever it was where Kruger and Bay discussed how they plotted out TFAoE--Bay came up with a bunch of action scenes he wanted to film, and then it was Kruger's job to string them together into something resembling a narrative.
Never watched/listened to any of the commentary, but I never said a Director didn't have any input, I'm saying if people are going to blame Bay then they should also be blaming the writer as well.
But this is an old debate, people can think whatever the fuck they want, I don't really give a shit at the end of the day. I have my opinions and they won't be changing any time soon.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694102)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
No worries man, cheers for cleaning it up so promptly
Exactly! The whole idea of "it doesn't matter whether they're male or female" essentially denies the injustices and unfairness that women have faced historically and in many aspects of life still do- again, the same applies in terms of race and any minority for that matter.
Again, these points have both hit the nail on the head- they might not have biological sexes or reproduce but the majority of transformers have a very clear gender, and almost all of the time that is male, or at least masculine. Fembots are important as they add diversity and better representation to the race, which is not only good for the franchise as a whole but also allows for different personalities and backstories to help move the plots themselves along and expand the universe. (Not that personality aspects should be determined by gender presentation, and actually IDW does a very good job on that, but that's an issue for another time
)
That would certainly clear all this sort of stuff up!
Posted by ArmadaPrime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
Va'al wrote:There was a mix-up on our part, and the post was reported twice. We apologise.
The conversations have been merged into the existing thread.
No worries man, cheers for cleaning it up so promptly
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Ignoring/"being blind to" race and gender does not make a person "above it all" anyway. Acknowledging it to further the story along is exactly that... to further the story. I don't think Shockblast knows what sexism/racism is.
Exactly! The whole idea of "it doesn't matter whether they're male or female" essentially denies the injustices and unfairness that women have faced historically and in many aspects of life still do- again, the same applies in terms of race and any minority for that matter.
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Also, unless all TransFormers look like generic 1950's robots, they have gender. Eliminating fembots because "they don't reproduce" leaves masculine robots, which IS sexist.
Convoy wrote:Sex and gender are not synonyms. Dictionary.com is free, people!
Again, these points have both hit the nail on the head- they might not have biological sexes or reproduce but the majority of transformers have a very clear gender, and almost all of the time that is male, or at least masculine. Fembots are important as they add diversity and better representation to the race, which is not only good for the franchise as a whole but also allows for different personalities and backstories to help move the plots themselves along and expand the universe. (Not that personality aspects should be determined by gender presentation, and actually IDW does a very good job on that, but that's an issue for another time
)Convoy wrote:Fake Edit: We should just have sentient alien machines writing this stuff. They know better than we how it all works.
That would certainly clear all this sort of stuff up!
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694468)
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:18pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:18pm CDT
These discussions depress me...
*Sigh* can't wait for the day that people don't have dumb arguments about gender in transformers.
Everything was fine before The comics and shows were pressured to start adding dozens of fembots just because of the loud minority.
Nothing wrong with female Transformers but Hasbro and anyone working on the movies/comics/shows should stop pandering for the never satisfied fandom and just let them do their own thing.
This fandom is part of the reason Transformers are not entertaining to kids anymore due to just being the same thing over and over and over again just so the writers can appeal to some adults who are too old for Transforming robot toys.
*Sigh* can't wait for the day that people don't have dumb arguments about gender in transformers.
Everything was fine before The comics and shows were pressured to start adding dozens of fembots just because of the loud minority.
Nothing wrong with female Transformers but Hasbro and anyone working on the movies/comics/shows should stop pandering for the never satisfied fandom and just let them do their own thing.
This fandom is part of the reason Transformers are not entertaining to kids anymore due to just being the same thing over and over and over again just so the writers can appeal to some adults who are too old for Transforming robot toys.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694469)
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:20pm CDT
Oh give up.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694476)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:32pm CDT
I agree, it is not only for the older audience, but the younger audience, grow up people.
I am a big fan of Fembots, and a fan of male style transformers, I don't see the issue here. Why do people argue over the dumbest things?
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:32pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:These discussions depress me...
*Sigh* can't wait for the day that people don't have dumb arguments about gender in transformers.
Everything was fine before The comics and shows were pressured to start adding dozens of fembots just because of the loud minority.
Nothing wrong with female Transformers but Hasbro and anyone working on the movies/comics/shows should stop pandering for the never satisfied fandom and just let them do their own thing.
This fandom is part of the reason Transformers are not entertaining to kids anymore due to just being the same thing over and over and over again just so the writers can appeal to some adults who are too old for Transforming robot toys.
I agree, it is not only for the older audience, but the younger audience, grow up people.
I am a big fan of Fembots, and a fan of male style transformers, I don't see the issue here. Why do people argue over the dumbest things?
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694480)
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:42pm CDT
Time to crack this one out again, given the current level of reasonable engagement with the issue and my rising dislike of addressing the same points over and over again, especially after so many good posts have been made on the topic. Silly, MJ, read above your own posts, and see my previous comment.
So here we go:
So here we go:
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694483)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 4th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Time to crack this one out again, given the current level of reasonable engagement with the issue and my rising dislike of addressing the same points over and over again, especially after so many good posts have been made on the topic. Silly, MJ, read above your own posts, and see my previous comment.
So here we go:
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694508)
Posted by King Kuuga on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:43pm CDT
There have been female Transformers since 1985. If anybody needs to give it a rest, it's people complaining about too many women infiltrating their precious male-dominated space. Now here's a thought. Let's discuss the potential Bayformers spinoffs, like we're supposed to!
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694510)
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
Did I say something wrong Va'al?
If I did I'm sorry about that I tried to make my post civil and I thought I was on discussion.
I will clarify that I have no problem with Fembots but I feel that the only reason that their getting exposure now is because of all the people on tumblr or something like that (not serious about the tumblr part but I feel that it was due to the cranky older fans that so many Fembots are appearing)
Whats worse is that their being treated like its a big deal which they shouldn't they should be equal to the male dudes.
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Time to crack this one out again, given the current level of reasonable engagement with the issue and my rising dislike of addressing the same points over and over again, especially after so many good posts have been made on the topic. Silly, MJ, read above your own posts, and see my previous comment.
So here we go:
Did I say something wrong Va'al?
If I did I'm sorry about that I tried to make my post civil and I thought I was on discussion.
I will clarify that I have no problem with Fembots but I feel that the only reason that their getting exposure now is because of all the people on tumblr or something like that (not serious about the tumblr part but I feel that it was due to the cranky older fans that so many Fembots are appearing)
Whats worse is that their being treated like its a big deal which they shouldn't they should be equal to the male dudes.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694515)
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:46pm CDT
So where's the potential?
There's really only three possible options that will realisticly happen.
Bumblebee spinoff movie (Or the Bee movie )
Prequel on Cybertron (Transformers one or whatever their calling it)
And a Dinobot movie which could either be present or in the past.
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:46pm CDT
That Bot wrote:There have been female Transformers since 1985. If anybody needs to give it a rest, it's people complaining about too many women infiltrating their precious male-dominated space. Now here's a thought. Let's discuss the potential Bayformers spinoffs, like we're supposed to!
So where's the potential?
There's really only three possible options that will realisticly happen.
Bumblebee spinoff movie (Or the Bee movie
)Prequel on Cybertron (Transformers one or whatever their calling it)
And a Dinobot movie which could either be present or in the past.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694517)
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT
All I see is 'I have no issue with this BUT...'.
And others have addressed the points you raise already.
For the record: If being part of a supposed 'minority' (hah, unlikely, I practically won the jackpot in my status of ciswhitemiddleclassmale) and being 'vocal' in my support of increased diversity in comics and media I enjoy means that eventually things will start to change, I'm going to start shouting from rooftops.
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Va'al wrote:Time to crack this one out again, given the current level of reasonable engagement with the issue and my rising dislike of addressing the same points over and over again, especially after so many good posts have been made on the topic. Silly, MJ, read above your own posts, and see my previous comment.
So here we go:
Did I say something wrong Va'al?
If I did I'm sorry about that I tried to make my post civil and I thought I was on discussion.
I will clarify that I have no problem with Fembots but I feel that the only reason that their getting exposure now is because of all the people on tumblr or something like that (not serious about the tumblr part but I feel that it was due to the cranky older fans that so many Fembots are appearing)
Whats worse is that their being treated like its a big deal which they shouldn't they should be equal to the male dudes.
All I see is 'I have no issue with this BUT...'.
And others have addressed the points you raise already.
For the record: If being part of a supposed 'minority' (hah, unlikely, I practically won the jackpot in my status of ciswhitemiddleclassmale) and being 'vocal' in my support of increased diversity in comics and media I enjoy means that eventually things will start to change, I'm going to start shouting from rooftops.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694520)
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
This will be my last post regarding the gender thing.
1: I'm just trying to explain about my rather small problems with giving in to demand.
2. I'm a crap reader somethings fly right over my head I'm slow like that.
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
Va'al wrote:
All I see is 'I have no issue with this BUT...'.
And others have addressed the points you raise already.
For the record: If being part of a supposed 'minority' (hah, unlikely, I practically won the jackpot in my status of ciswhitemiddleclassmale) and being 'vocal' in my support of increased diversity in comics and media I enjoy means that eventually things will start to change, I'm going to start shouting from rooftops.
This will be my last post regarding the gender thing.
1: I'm just trying to explain about my rather small problems with giving in to demand.
2. I'm a crap reader somethings fly right over my head I'm slow like that.
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694528)
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 3:05pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 4th, 2015 @ 3:05pm CDT
There is a difference between legitimate demand and pandering to whims.
Let me make it easier for you to read the posts you were replying to:
Why It's A Big Deal - paramount-looks-to-expand-transformers-film-franchise-with-spin-offs-and-more-sequels-t103737s300.php#p1693934
Why It's A Big Deal, pt. II - paramount-looks-to-expand-transformers-film-franchise-with-spin-offs-and-more-sequels-t103737s300.php#p1694102
Let me make it easier for you to read the posts you were replying to:
Why It's A Big Deal - paramount-looks-to-expand-transformers-film-franchise-with-spin-offs-and-more-sequels-t103737s300.php#p1693934
Why It's A Big Deal, pt. II - paramount-looks-to-expand-transformers-film-franchise-with-spin-offs-and-more-sequels-t103737s300.php#p1694102
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694529)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on June 4th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
When we reach a point where female and male characters have equal representation in the franchise, then I will wholeheartedly agree with you.
Until then, however, fembots are very much a minority, and so it's important that we're vocal and make a big deal out of any steps towards better representation, to raise awareness that things are improving in that regard and in the hope that our positive response will be seen by the companies and they will be more inclined to continue the trend of introducing strong female characters.
And regarding spinoff potential, I think there's actually quite a bit. Numerous 'bots and 'cons have heard Prime's message at the end of the first movie and turned up in between each film with little explanation as to whereabouts in the universe they'd been previously, so I figure that there's cybertronians basically scattered throughout the galaxies. I'd go as far as to suggest they could take the premise of nearly any off-world transformers story already written and find a way to slot it into movieverse canon. Perhaps we'd see a group of new Autobots that hear Prime's message and head towards Earth- only to be intercepted by a group of Decepticons along the way, of course
Posted by ArmadaPrime on June 4th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Whats worse is that their being treated like its a big deal which they shouldn't they should be equal to the male dudes.
When we reach a point where female and male characters have equal representation in the franchise, then I will wholeheartedly agree with you.
Until then, however, fembots are very much a minority, and so it's important that we're vocal and make a big deal out of any steps towards better representation, to raise awareness that things are improving in that regard and in the hope that our positive response will be seen by the companies and they will be more inclined to continue the trend of introducing strong female characters.
And regarding spinoff potential, I think there's actually quite a bit. Numerous 'bots and 'cons have heard Prime's message at the end of the first movie and turned up in between each film with little explanation as to whereabouts in the universe they'd been previously, so I figure that there's cybertronians basically scattered throughout the galaxies. I'd go as far as to suggest they could take the premise of nearly any off-world transformers story already written and find a way to slot it into movieverse canon. Perhaps we'd see a group of new Autobots that hear Prime's message and head towards Earth- only to be intercepted by a group of Decepticons along the way, of course
Re: Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer (1694535)
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 3:25pm CDT
Thank you Va'al I appreciate you linking those posts.
I apologize and I understand a bit more on the subject.
Posted by Deadput on June 4th, 2015 @ 3:25pm CDT
Va'al wrote:There is a difference between legitimate demand and pandering to whims.
Let me make it easier for you to read the posts you were replying to:
Why It's A Big Deal - paramount-looks-to-expand-transformers-film-franchise-with-spin-offs-and-more-sequels-t103737s300.php#p1693934
Why It's A Big Deal, pt. II - paramount-looks-to-expand-transformers-film-franchise-with-spin-offs-and-more-sequels-t103737s300.php#p1694102
Thank you Va'al I appreciate you linking those posts.
I apologize and I understand a bit more on the subject.
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Posted by Va'al on June 5th, 2015 @ 5:27am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 5th, 2015 @ 5:27am CDT
We have another update from Deadline on the Paramount Transformers Universe Writers' Room, with two new additions to this seemingly unstoppable team of creators: Ken Nolan and Geneva Robertson-Dworet. The new additions have some nice credentials to them, and Akiva Goldsman claims this is also the end of the line-up for the group so far - as they will start writing and brainstorming this coming Monday! Read more about them and Goldsman's statements below, and the full piece here.
Ken Nolan and Geneva Robertson-Dworet have been set to join the group of writers who, starting Monday, will gather in an office on the Paramount lot to hatch the next iterations of the billion-dollar Transformers franchise. Nolan is best known for Black Hawk Down and Fox recently acquired his spec adaptation of the Robert Littell Cold War novel Defection, this after Nolan turned his novel The Company into a limited TNT series. Robertson-Dworet, who co-wrote the Black List script Hibernation, is writing a space thriller for Roland Emmerich that will be directed by his longtime DP Anna Foerster. She is also teamed with Will Frank on a sci-fi action thriller for Jerry Bruckheimer and a psychological thriller for Bad Robot that’s produced by The Imitation Game‘s Ido Ostrowsky and Nora Grossman.
[...]
When they start Monday, Goldsman and the writers will immerse themselves in everything that has been crafted by Hasbro to create what Goldsman said is a deep mythology. “We’ve got a work space that is beautifully production designed to be immersive with a strong sense of the franchise history,” he said. “We will look at the toys, the TV shows, the merchandise, everything that has been generated by Hasbro, from popular to forgotten iterations, and establish a mythological time line. It has been designed with a lot of visual help, toys, robots, sketches and writers and artists. After that super saturation, the writers will figure out not one, but numerous films that will extend the universe.”
