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Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art

Transformers News: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art

Saturday, September 28th, 2013 10:03AM CDT

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To coincide with the release of Takara Tomy's Transformers Masterpiece MP-17 Prowl, the figure's designer, Shogo Hasui, has tweeted an image of the original Diaclone Fairlady Z concept art. This figure went on to become Generation 1 Prowl, Bluestreak, and Smokescreen. As you can see many of the design elements made it from concept to reality with the exception of the head sculpt, which is considerable different. Check out the image mirrored below.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520562)
Posted by KorbinJones on September 28th, 2013 @ 10:39am CDT
I'd buy a yellow repaint with a new head!
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520568)
Posted by triKlops on September 28th, 2013 @ 10:59am CDT
This is great to see how far the design travels from concept to physical form.
Would be an interesting Botcon/ TFCC exclusive repaint/ retool on a deluxe down the line.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520569)
Posted by spiderbob007 on September 28th, 2013 @ 11:00am CDT
The head reminds me of a samurai helmet.

I would love to see more concept art of this nature, and of course toys.

http://www.swordsdirect.com/samurai-helmets-by-hanwei.jpg
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520571)
Posted by Down_Shift on September 28th, 2013 @ 11:03am CDT
Come on eHobby, don't fail me now!!
:-B
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520573)
Posted by Windsweeper on September 28th, 2013 @ 11:15am CDT
No offence but that head is hideous. Prowl wouldn't be my favourite Autobot if he looked like that. It's like Prowl possessed by Unicron.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520575)
Posted by Stormrider on September 28th, 2013 @ 11:31am CDT
spiderbob007 wrote:The head reminds me of a samurai helmet.

I would love to see more concept art of this nature, and of course toys.

http://www.swordsdirect.com/samurai-helmets-by-hanwei.jpg


Very observant. :D Many of the Diaclone and G1 Tranformers heads were based on Samurai helmets. The crests, horns, and faceplates are the most notable features. (This was a common theme in Japanese robot cartoons in the 1980s.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520583)
Posted by Rated X on September 28th, 2013 @ 12:40pm CDT
I want one from the classics prowl mold. A custom might not be too hard to pull off since white plastic can be dyed and red parts can be swapped from Smokescreen/Bluestreak. But creating a new head would be out of my skill level...
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520586)
Posted by stocky on September 28th, 2013 @ 1:21pm CDT
I could be wrong, but that head looks an AWFUL lot like Wildrider's -- at least the head that they used for the animation in the original cartoons. Wonder if this concept sketch is where they got the design that they used in the cartoon...

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:BurdenHarde ... Matrix.jpg
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520591)
Posted by Cyberpath on September 28th, 2013 @ 1:50pm CDT
stocky wrote:I could be wrong, but that head looks an AWFUL lot like Wildrider's -- at least the head that they used for the animation in the original cartoons. Wonder if this concept sketch is where they got the design that they used in the cartoon...

Funny that you bring up Wildrider's head, just last night I found this article about the Stunticons, suggesting that Floro Dery worked off early toy designs of the Stunticons when he created their cartoon models. (Save for Motormaster.)

It explains why their cartoon-heads are so different than the finalised toy-heads. And how Dragstrip got his horizontal two-wheels shoulders.

Not really related to Prowl, but an interesting piece of trivia.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520619)
Posted by Rated X on September 28th, 2013 @ 4:47pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:
stocky wrote:I could be wrong, but that head looks an AWFUL lot like Wildrider's -- at least the head that they used for the animation in the original cartoons. Wonder if this concept sketch is where they got the design that they used in the cartoon...

Funny that you bring up Wildrider's head, just last night I found this article about the Stunticons, suggesting that Floro Dery worked off early toy designs of the Stunticons when he created their cartoon models. (Save for Motormaster.)

It explains why their cartoon-heads are so different than the finalised toy-heads. And how Dragstrip got his horizontal two-wheels shoulders.

Not really related to Prowl, but an interesting piece of trivia.



The reason the stunticons toy heads are so different is because of 1986 combiner port technology that required square heads. I dont know if the toys were created after the cartoon or vice-versa, But it was the release of Menasor and Superion that introduced the square head for all G1 combiner limb figures to come. That's why I hate when 3rd parties go with toy accurate heads and ignore cartoon accuracy. The heads were square for a reason and it wasnt to look cool.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520633)
Posted by Cyberpath on September 28th, 2013 @ 6:39pm CDT
Rated X wrote:The reason the stunticons toy heads are so different is because of 1986 combiner port technology that required square heads. I dont know if the toys were created after the cartoon or vice-versa, But it was the release of Menasor and Superion that introduced the square head for all G1 combiner limb figures to come. That's why I hate when 3rd parties go with toy accurate heads and ignore cartoon accuracy. The heads were square for a reason and it wasnt to look cool.

The Combaticons & Protectobots toys also had square-heads, yet their heads were fairly cartoon-accurate.

Compared to them, the Stunticons & Aerialbots had vastly different faces than the toys, and I kind of always wondered why. This article explains that the show designer must have worked from early concept sketches provided in the series "bible" when he designed the Stunticons & Aerialbots.
http://www.ntfa.net/forums/lofiversion/ ... t5792.html

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I agree, I also prefer the cartoon models!

And on the subject of Nissan police cars, I always appreciated how Streetwise's toy had a proper head. :)
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520640)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 28th, 2013 @ 7:16pm CDT
And this design was meant to be for a human-piloted mech.

spiderbob007 wrote:The head reminds me of a samurai helmet.

I would love to see more concept art of this nature, and of course toys.

http://www.swordsdirect.com/samurai-helmets-by-hanwei.jpg
Good thing we got the Go! toyline giving us just that. :D

Rated X wrote:The reason the stunticons toy heads are so different is because of 1986 combiner port technology that required square heads. I dont know if the toys were created after the cartoon or vice-versa, But it was the release of Menasor and Superion that introduced the square head for all G1 combiner limb figures to come.
Yeah, the toy molds for the four 1986 combiners were made before they appeared in the cartoon and comics, since they (and Metroplex's toy mold) were originally created for an aborted spinoff line of Diaclone called Jizai Gattai (but its toy molds were completed far enough in the design process to be rebranded into Transformers toys). ;)
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520676)
Posted by Valandar on September 29th, 2013 @ 10:19am CDT
Oddly, that head actually makes me think of the Junkions.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520677)
Posted by Bowspearer on September 29th, 2013 @ 10:23am CDT
Firstly, the toy would have come before the cartoon design did as the diaclone line was well in production still in 1984 and concepts for the 85 line at the very least would have been well and truly in the prototype stage.

To bring this full circle though, I found a review online already for MP Prowl:

Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520710)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 29th, 2013 @ 1:50pm CDT
Bowspearer wrote:Firstly, the toy would have come before the cartoon design did as the diaclone line was well in production still in 1984 and concepts for the 85 line at the very least would have been well and truly in the prototype stage.
Exactly. They were planned for Jizai Gattai before Transformers. ;)
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520756)
Posted by Bowspearer on September 30th, 2013 @ 3:42am CDT
I know, my point was that it was anything but a "the chicken or the egg" situation.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520794)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 30th, 2013 @ 7:18am CDT
Bowspearer wrote:I know, my point was that it was anything but a "the chicken or the egg" situation.
Right on. ;)^
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1520943)
Posted by Son of Carl on September 30th, 2013 @ 8:47pm CDT
Just got my shipping notification this morning. I've been waiting for Prowl since I started collecting this line way back with MP-03 and MP-04.

My wait is almost over.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521235)
Posted by El Duque on October 2nd, 2013 @ 8:08am CDT
Thanks to TransformersKorea we have some new official images of Takara Tomy's upcoming Transformers Masterpiece figures MP-18 Bluestreak and MP-19 Smokescreen. Bluestreak is due to release this month, with Smokescreen scheduled for December.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521246)
Posted by Bowspearer on October 2nd, 2013 @ 8:36am CDT
Smokescreen looks absolutely brilliant. Looks like Jazz has his upper arms and shoulders sorted out when he comes along too.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521265)
Posted by Seibertron on October 2nd, 2013 @ 10:14am CDT
I didn't realize that the forehead crest was remolded differently for Prowl, Smokescreen and Bluestreak. Kudos to Takara Tomy for paying attention to that small detail. That's awesome! :KREMZEEK:
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521269)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2013 @ 10:35am CDT
Seibertron wrote:I didn't realize that the forehead crest was remolded differently for Prowl, Smokescreen and Bluestreak. Kudos to Takara Tomy for paying attention to that small detail. That's awesome! :KREMZEEK:
Not just the forehead, the whole headsculpt is new for each of them. 8)
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521277)
Posted by Dead Metal on October 2nd, 2013 @ 10:59am CDT
Valandar wrote:Oddly, that head actually makes me think of the Junkions.

Not just the head, but the colouring too, at first glaqnce it looks like a Junkion that turns into a car. Pretty cool in that retro sort of way.

And yes a remold/ repaint of Prowl into this would be pretty cool.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521280)
Posted by Bowspearer on October 2nd, 2013 @ 11:33am CDT
It's not just the heads though- even the hips on each of them are different if you look closely.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521285)
Posted by KorbinJones on October 2nd, 2013 @ 12:07pm CDT
I will buy a Blue repaint of Smokescreen if they call it Bluestreak!
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521287)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 2nd, 2013 @ 12:13pm CDT
KorbinJones wrote:I will buy a Blue repaint of Smokescreen if they call it Bluestreak!


Colored like that urban legend from G1?

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521291)
Posted by Bowspearer on October 2nd, 2013 @ 12:28pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
KorbinJones wrote:I will buy a Blue repaint of Smokescreen if they call it Bluestreak!


Colored like that urban legend from G1?

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Technically it's not an urban legend but the Diaclone version and I suspect someone will do it as an exclusive after Tigertrack was released.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521320)
Posted by xyl360 on October 2nd, 2013 @ 2:33pm CDT
Sexy has a new name, and that name is Smokescreen :D!
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521332)
Posted by ReinaHW on October 2nd, 2013 @ 3:06pm CDT
*Tears her eyes away from the images of MP Smokescreen* Excuse me while I do a fan girl scream - Eeeeeee! I've got to add him to the collection! I've waited close to thirty years for this guy, ever since I had the original G1 Smokescreen as my first Transformer almost thirty years ago.
This is how I've always pictured him in my imagination and how I've always wished him to be made as!

He's gorgeous! He is a must buy, well for me he is, not sure about anyone else. Okay, fan girl moment done.

But he really does look amazing, the colours, the build, it all looks as close to perfect as you can ever get for a Transformer.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521381)
Posted by xyl360 on October 2nd, 2013 @ 6:15pm CDT
ReinaHW wrote:*Tears her eyes away from the images of MP Smokescreen* Excuse me while I do a fan girl scream - Eeeeeee! I've got to add him to the collection! I've waited close to thirty years for this guy, ever since I had the original G1 Smokescreen as my first Transformer almost thirty years ago.
This is how I've always pictured him in my imagination and how I've always wished him to be made as!

He's gorgeous! He is a must buy, well for me he is, not sure about anyone else. Okay, fan girl moment done.

But he really does look amazing, the colours, the build, it all looks as close to perfect as you can ever get for a Transformer.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me perfectly :).

I never had him as a kid unfortunately (I gots him now though of course :P) but he was always my favorite Autobot car.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521407)
Posted by Judas_Warlord on October 2nd, 2013 @ 10:41pm CDT
These two are barely 6 inches tall. Why are they starting to downsize the Masterpiece figures? They look cool and all but for the price they are going for I think I'll pass. >:oP
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1521415)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2013 @ 11:09pm CDT
Judas_Warlord wrote:These two are barely 6 inches tall. Why are they starting to downsize the Masterpiece figures?
Cuz Prowl isn't the same height as Optimus in the cartoon. He's shorter, so he get's a shorter toy.

The new MPs are scaled to the official cartoon scale guide, so as to create a better sense of uniformity among the figures. It also lets Prowl fit inside Prime's trailer.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1524551)
Posted by Cyberpath on October 18th, 2013 @ 4:34am CDT
New pic from the designer:

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1524708)
Posted by Suz on October 18th, 2013 @ 9:34pm CDT
Judas_Warlord wrote:These two are barely 6 inches tall. Why are they starting to downsize the Masterpiece figures? They look cool and all but for the price they are going for I think I'll pass. >:oP

I felt that way initially, too, when my MP Sideswipe arrived. Now that I've had him for several months, it doesn't bother me anymore. He's still better than any previous version of him. I'm also really enjoying Prowl. I cannot wait for Bluestreak and Smokey to finally arrive!

If downsizing them means more MP Cars and Mini-Cars, that's a trade-off I can live with.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1524785)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 19th, 2013 @ 5:24pm CDT
Bluestreak was my very first Transformer, back in the day. I've got G1, Classics, Alternators and soon Masterpiece! :D
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1524896)
Posted by Suz on October 20th, 2013 @ 11:00am CDT
My first Bluestreak was a Christmas present back in '84 or '85. He was always one of my favorites. I just love how each of the Datsuns has a different head sculpt and other smaller details that distinguishes them.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525051)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on October 21st, 2013 @ 12:50pm CDT
Transformersasia has updated with the image for the Asian exclusive coin that is packaged with MP-18 Bluestreak. Bluestreak is set for release soon on October 26. In the mean time, check out the coin design below.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525591)
Posted by Cyberpath on October 24th, 2013 @ 3:10am CDT
The designer posted another photo:

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And there's a mention of "MP-20".

ストリークの参戦により、MPになったアーク搭乗員は全部で四人となりました。アニメ序盤から登場する彼等が僕は大好きです。今後さらに搭乗員が増えるといいですね!MP-20以降のキャラクターにもぜひ注目ください#TT_TF

If I got that right, the last line says "Please pay attention to a character after MP-20."
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525609)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 24th, 2013 @ 6:10am CDT
The latest Transformers Masterpiece figure, MP-18 Bluestreak, has apparently seen release and blogger Alfes2010 has provided some pics via his Twitter feed. The figure is scheduled to be shipping from US e-tailers such as BBTS and TFSource by the beginning of November, if not sooner. 'Til then, this will have to tide you over.

The small gallery has been mirrored below.

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525618)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 24th, 2013 @ 7:03am CDT
That's not Smokescreen, that's Streak.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525627)
Posted by megatronus on October 24th, 2013 @ 7:25am CDT
So... beautiful...
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525628)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 24th, 2013 @ 7:31am CDT
Alfes just Tweeted one more new pic - https://twitter.com/Alfes2010/status/393353477373440000

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525635)
Posted by mooncake623 on October 24th, 2013 @ 8:07am CDT
Where does his gun go in alt mode? hm...
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525637)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 24th, 2013 @ 8:15am CDT
mooncake623 wrote:Where does his gun go in alt mode? hm...
Looks like there might be a little clip on the roof that it could possible be inserted into.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525658)
Posted by robotmel on October 24th, 2013 @ 9:44am CDT
:D
Streaker is looking great especially with that clear sun roof effect, a nice way to differetiate (word of the day!) him from his car brothers! ;)
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525694)
Posted by AutoBorst on October 24th, 2013 @ 12:29pm CDT
Does Prowl and Bluestreak have different face sculpts like Sideswipe/Red Alert have?
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525705)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on October 24th, 2013 @ 1:37pm CDT
AutoBorst wrote:Does Prowl and Bluestreak have different face sculpts like Sideswipe/Red Alert have?


Yes they do (please forgive the use of a TFW pic but it was the clearest head shot I could find, I will do my penance later)

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Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525716)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 24th, 2013 @ 2:35pm CDT
Not just the faces, but their entire heads are different sculpts, too.
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525719)
Posted by mooncake623 on October 24th, 2013 @ 2:43pm CDT
got payment request from HLJ for Streak! =D
Re: Original Diaclone Fairlady Z Concept Art (1525722)
Posted by megatronus on October 24th, 2013 @ 3:16pm CDT
mooncake623 wrote:got payment request from HLJ for Streak! =D

That means my RK order should ship out soon... :D

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