Optimus Prime vs. Bonecrusher Extended Footage

That was awsome! Front paged and credited.

Who is Ratchet flipping in the one scene?

What the hells up with that scene?

Prime's chest seems to completely move away from his torso in the very beginning. It cuts to a pointless slow-mo shot when Bonecrusher dives on him with totally unresponsive traffic. Then, as theyre falling from the bridge, you see them both, then it cuts to the inside of the car and Prime has mysteriously vanished only to fall on top of Bonecrusher a second later (they fell together)

Meverix wrote:What the hells up with that scene?

Prime's chest seems to completely move away from his torso in the very beginning. It cuts to a pointless slow-mo shot when Bonecrusher dives on him with totally unresponsive traffic. Then, as theyre falling from the bridge, you see them both, then it cuts to the inside of the car and Prime has mysteriously vanished only to fall on top of Bonecrusher a second later (they fell together)

In my post here,

mangatron at shootfortheedit.com wrote:And Optimus transforming while runing partly in mid air....man, I will forever appreciate the attention to detail.

As for the whole clip in itself, it is highly incomplete (to my knowledge) and only just and exclusive look. Not final, no music and "Look Mom" scene is not in.

opps

That was indeed quite awesome. Goosebumps, Even. I guess I'm wondering why this seemingly Climactic battle is fought btw. Prime an Bonecrusher, when it should definitely be Megatron...? Oh Well. It's definitely Prime, and that's all that matters.

I think it's freakin' awesome. Oh and by the way, did anyone else catch Josh Duhamel call Blackout, Vortex on the MTV Pre-show.

mangatron wrote:

Meverix wrote:What the hells up with that scene?

Prime's chest seems to completely move away from his torso in the very beginning. It cuts to a pointless slow-mo shot when Bonecrusher dives on him with totally unresponsive traffic. Then, as theyre falling from the bridge, you see them both, then it cuts to the inside of the car and Prime has mysteriously vanished only to fall on top of Bonecrusher a second later (they fell together)

In my post here,

mangatron at shootfortheedit.com wrote:And Optimus transforming while runing partly in mid air....man, I will forever appreciate the attention to detail.

As for the whole clip in itself, it is highly incomplete (to my knowledge) and only just and exclusive look. Not final, no music and "Look Mom" scene is not in.

Ahh. Yeah, I can understand if he was transforming but his legs are already extended by that point (they've not been parted before the front end's transformed in bits we've seen) but this might be like Hot Rod's transformations. They change.

I can understand it's not finished. But... well, when Bonecrusher dives, first he seems some distance away from the white truck in the bottom left. He hits prime, and his fingers brush over the front of it, and they roll and some of Optimus obscures it. Then, they fall off the bridge and that truck is completely gone, replaced by a small car, apparently.

Maybe, even extended, bits are missing. They don't appear to be on a bridge when the white truck's there. there must be a clip when they get to it

I cant believe how many people are bitching about the clips so far...can't you just appreciate what an AMAZING job they have done bringing the transformers to life? Stop looking at every detail...besides most of you haven't thought about it what you are saying and turn out to be wrong.
Big-up to Mr Bay!

qwailo wrote:I cant believe how many people are bitching about the clips so far...can't you just appreciate what an AMAZING job they have done bringing the transformers to life? Stop looking at every detail...besides most of you haven't thought about it what you are saying and turn out to be wrong.
Big-up to Mr Bay!

Quoted for truth.

The clip is not complete. End of discussion. Restart thread and,

"Great stuff there!"

Bonecrusher remains my favourite design of the movie. I hope that fight scene is long and intense, it's the one I'm the most looking forward to!

mangatron wrote:As for the whole clip in itself, it is highly incomplete (to my knowledge) and only just and exclusive look. Not final, no music and "Look Mom" scene is not in.

I think that "look mom" thing comes after. It's more likely they spliced it into the trailer, who knows where that scene is actually taken from, it could be from anywhere in the film.

Skowl wrote:Bonecrusher remains my favourite design of the movie. I hope that fight scene is long and intense, it's the one I'm the most looking forward to!

mangatron wrote:As for the whole clip in itself, it is highly incomplete (to my knowledge) and only just and exclusive look. Not final, no music and "Look Mom" scene is not in.

I think that "look mom" thing comes after. It's more likely they spliced it into the trailer, who knows where that scene is actually taken from, it could be from anywhere in the film.

I think that family carrier at the very end would have the kid in it.

hey you can't forget about this footage ^^ LOL it's funny shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3wAnWecdyY&NR=1

qwailo wrote:I cant believe how many people are bitching about the clips so far...can't you just appreciate what an AMAZING job they have done bringing the transformers to life? Stop looking at every detail...besides most of you haven't thought about it what you are saying and turn out to be wrong.
Big-up to Mr Bay!

What would people do all day if they didnt bitch about something from this movie?

I still think we're being teased. I can't wait to see this movie.

Meverix wrote:

mangatron wrote:

Meverix wrote:What the hells up with that scene?

Prime's chest seems to completely move away from his torso in the very beginning. It cuts to a pointless slow-mo shot when Bonecrusher dives on him with totally unresponsive traffic. Then, as theyre falling from the bridge, you see them both, then it cuts to the inside of the car and Prime has mysteriously vanished only to fall on top of Bonecrusher a second later (they fell together)

In my post here,

mangatron at shootfortheedit.com wrote:And Optimus transforming while runing partly in mid air....man, I will forever appreciate the attention to detail.

As for the whole clip in itself, it is highly incomplete (to my knowledge) and only just and exclusive look. Not final, no music and "Look Mom" scene is not in.

Ahh. Yeah, I can understand if he was transforming but his legs are already extended by that point (they've not been parted before the front end's transformed in bits we've seen) but this might be like Hot Rod's transformations. They change.

I can understand it's not finished. But... well, when Bonecrusher dives, first he seems some distance away from the white truck in the bottom left. He hits prime, and his fingers brush over the front of it, and they roll and some of Optimus obscures it. Then, they fall off the bridge and that truck is completely gone, replaced by a small car, apparently.

Maybe, even extended, bits are missing. They don't appear to be on a bridge when the white truck's there. there must be a clip when they get to it

I just noticed that truck is missing as well. Hopefully the scene has been cut for the clip and is more complete in the movie otherwise that little mistake will bother me like a few bits in the freeway chase in bad boys 2.

And yeah, johnny come lately, this is old news sorry.

I don't mean to be a complete prat about this, but some of the errors in that scene are worrying me. I hope this was a clip released to MTV a LONG time ago.

Again, sorry to be such a prat about this...

Errors (in order of appearance)
1. Prime's transformation bothers me. We've seen from the lengthy trailer that his transformation begins at the front. And yet in this we see his legs are already fully transformed, while his nose seems to have a way to go.

2. The dive. There's an odd laugh in the background, but that could be anything. The main issues I have with this are that, firstly, the bot's position changes on the highway. At first, Bonecrusher is some distance behind the white truck. He dives, and his fingers appear on top of the truck (in front of it). He hits prime, and two things happen (or don't). Firstly, the two don't seem to go any distance from the impact. If you watch, the dive doesn't seem to take them anyway, as if they stopped in mid air (but continue to roll). However, they suddenly appear in front of the truck. Surely the natural response to two giant mechanoids landing in front of you would be to swerve to avoid? The truck does nothing.

3. The following clip shows them suddenly to be rolling over onto a highway bridge (s'cuse the lack of technical terms, i dont have a lisence). Now, the fact they seem to already be rolling (as is from Bonecrushers dive) make me think there isn't a scene missing which shows them getting onto that bridge. Not only this, but that white truck has vanished, only to be replaced by two small cars.

4. They rocket over the edge of the bridge, and Prime grabs hold of the ledge before letting go. Before it cuts, Bonecrusher is nearly at the bottom of his fall. It then cuts to the sunroof-cam of a car below, and it shows Bonecrusher at the top of his fall, and Prime is nowhere (only to land by Bonecrusher a second later).

I'm not being difficult, I promise I wasn't LOOKING for errors, but these showed and they made me enjoy it just a little less. I envy those of you who can ignore it and like it for what it is. My hopes are that it is early footage and has since been corrected.

Meverix wrote:I don't mean to be a complete prat about this, but some of the errors in that scene are worrying me. I hope this was a clip released to MTV a LONG time ago.

Again, sorry to be such a prat about this...

Errors (in order of appearance)
1. Prime's transformation bothers me. We've seen from the lengthy trailer that his transformation begins at the front. And yet in this we see his legs are already fully transformed, while his nose seems to have a way to go.

2. The dive. There's an odd laugh in the background, but that could be anything. The main issues I have with this are that, firstly, the bot's position changes on the highway. At first, Bonecrusher is some distance behind the white truck. He dives, and his fingers appear on top of the truck (in front of it). He hits prime, and two things happen (or don't). Firstly, the two don't seem to go any distance from the impact. If you watch, the dive doesn't seem to take them anyway, as if they stopped in mid air (but continue to roll). However, they suddenly appear in front of the truck. Surely the natural response to two giant mechanoids landing in front of you would be to swerve to avoid? The truck does nothing.

3. The following clip shows them suddenly to be rolling over onto a highway bridge (s'cuse the lack of technical terms, i dont have a lisence). Now, the fact they seem to already be rolling (as is from Bonecrushers dive) make me think there isn't a scene missing which shows them getting onto that bridge. Not only this, but that white truck has vanished, only to be replaced by two small cars.

4. They rocket over the edge of the bridge, and Prime grabs hold of the ledge before letting go. Before it cuts, Bonecrusher is nearly at the bottom of his fall. It then cuts to the sunroof-cam of a car below, and it shows Bonecrusher at the top of his fall, and Prime is nowhere (only to land by Bonecrusher a second later).

I'm not being difficult, I promise I wasn't LOOKING for errors, but these showed and they made me enjoy it just a little less. I envy those of you who can ignore it and like it for what it is. My hopes are that it is early footage and has since been corrected.

Well now none of us can watch it without looking or knowing thanks to you! You plonker!

(hint:*whispers*i think next time you shouldnt say anything?)

Sonray wrote:

Meverix wrote:I don't mean to be a complete prat about this, but some of the errors in that scene are worrying me. I hope this was a clip released to MTV a LONG time ago.

Again, sorry to be such a prat about this...

Errors (in order of appearance)
1. Prime's transformation bothers me. We've seen from the lengthy trailer that his transformation begins at the front. And yet in this we see his legs are already fully transformed, while his nose seems to have a way to go.

2. The dive. There's an odd laugh in the background, but that could be anything. The main issues I have with this are that, firstly, the bot's position changes on the highway. At first, Bonecrusher is some distance behind the white truck. He dives, and his fingers appear on top of the truck (in front of it). He hits prime, and two things happen (or don't). Firstly, the two don't seem to go any distance from the impact. If you watch, the dive doesn't seem to take them anyway, as if they stopped in mid air (but continue to roll). However, they suddenly appear in front of the truck. Surely the natural response to two giant mechanoids landing in front of you would be to swerve to avoid? The truck does nothing.

3. The following clip shows them suddenly to be rolling over onto a highway bridge (s'cuse the lack of technical terms, i dont have a lisence). Now, the fact they seem to already be rolling (as is from Bonecrushers dive) make me think there isn't a scene missing which shows them getting onto that bridge. Not only this, but that white truck has vanished, only to be replaced by two small cars.

4. They rocket over the edge of the bridge, and Prime grabs hold of the ledge before letting go. Before it cuts, Bonecrusher is nearly at the bottom of his fall. It then cuts to the sunroof-cam of a car below, and it shows Bonecrusher at the top of his fall, and Prime is nowhere (only to land by Bonecrusher a second later).

I'm not being difficult, I promise I wasn't LOOKING for errors, but these showed and they made me enjoy it just a little less. I envy those of you who can ignore it and like it for what it is. My hopes are that it is early footage and has since been corrected.

Well now none of us can watch it without looking or knowing thanks to you! You plonker!

(hint:*whispers*i think next time you shouldnt say anything?)

Eh, voicing my opinion and stating some facts. You think people would like STD's any more if we just didn't talk about them?

Animation screw ups, you people wanted G1 after all

lol holy crap. that drop from the freeway looked awesome.

Venomous Prime wrote:Animation screw ups, you people wanted G1 after all

You get a grammy for that.

Meverix wrote:I don't mean to be a complete prat about this, but some of the errors in that scene are worrying me. I hope this was a clip released to MTV a LONG time ago.

Again, sorry to be such a prat about this...

Errors (in order of appearance)
1. Prime's transformation bothers me. We've seen from the lengthy trailer that his transformation begins at the front. And yet in this we see his legs are already fully transformed, while his nose seems to have a way to go.

2. The dive. There's an odd laugh in the background, but that could be anything. The main issues I have with this are that, firstly, the bot's position changes on the highway. At first, Bonecrusher is some distance behind the white truck. He dives, and his fingers appear on top of the truck (in front of it). He hits prime, and two things happen (or don't). Firstly, the two don't seem to go any distance from the impact. If you watch, the dive doesn't seem to take them anyway, as if they stopped in mid air (but continue to roll). However, they suddenly appear in front of the truck. Surely the natural response to two giant mechanoids landing in front of you would be to swerve to avoid? The truck does nothing.

3. The following clip shows them suddenly to be rolling over onto a highway bridge (s'cuse the lack of technical terms, i dont have a lisence). Now, the fact they seem to already be rolling (as is from Bonecrushers dive) make me think there isn't a scene missing which shows them getting onto that bridge. Not only this, but that white truck has vanished, only to be replaced by two small cars.

4. They rocket over the edge of the bridge, and Prime grabs hold of the ledge before letting go. Before it cuts, Bonecrusher is nearly at the bottom of his fall. It then cuts to the sunroof-cam of a car below, and it shows Bonecrusher at the top of his fall, and Prime is nowhere (only to land by Bonecrusher a second later).

I'm not being difficult, I promise I wasn't LOOKING for errors, but these showed and they made me enjoy it just a little less. I envy those of you who can ignore it and like it for what it is. My hopes are that it is early footage and has since been corrected.

Ok i just studied the clip again after i read this and i can safely say that you are totally wrong about everything. Think before you post muppet!

Meverix wrote:I don't mean to be a complete prat about this, but some of the errors in that scene are worrying me. I hope this was a clip released to MTV a LONG time ago.

Again, sorry to be such a prat about this...

Errors (in order of appearance)
1. Prime's transformation bothers me. We've seen from the lengthy trailer that his transformation begins at the front. And yet in this we see his legs are already fully transformed, while his nose seems to have a way to go.

2. The dive. There's an odd laugh in the background, but that could be anything. The main issues I have with this are that, firstly, the bot's position changes on the highway. At first, Bonecrusher is some distance behind the white truck. He dives, and his fingers appear on top of the truck (in front of it). He hits prime, and two things happen (or don't). Firstly, the two don't seem to go any distance from the impact. If you watch, the dive doesn't seem to take them anyway, as if they stopped in mid air (but continue to roll). However, they suddenly appear in front of the truck. Surely the natural response to two giant mechanoids landing in front of you would be to swerve to avoid? The truck does nothing.

3. The following clip shows them suddenly to be rolling over onto a highway bridge (s'cuse the lack of technical terms, i dont have a lisence). Now, the fact they seem to already be rolling (as is from Bonecrushers dive) make me think there isn't a scene missing which shows them getting onto that bridge. Not only this, but that white truck has vanished, only to be replaced by two small cars.

4. They rocket over the edge of the bridge, and Prime grabs hold of the ledge before letting go. Before it cuts, Bonecrusher is nearly at the bottom of his fall. It then cuts to the sunroof-cam of a car below, and it shows Bonecrusher at the top of his fall, and Prime is nowhere (only to land by Bonecrusher a second later).

I'm not being difficult, I promise I wasn't LOOKING for errors, but these showed and they made me enjoy it just a little less. I envy those of you who can ignore it and like it for what it is. My hopes are that it is early footage and has since been corrected.

Simple answer regarding the bridge.

Its a truncated clip ie not the entire scene

I hope its nott he entire scene...cos now, thansk to meverix, its gonna bother me now if it isnt.

No more spoilers for me thank you.

dude, this movie is going to kick so much ass! You guys are wayyyyyy over analyzing this little clip. Its most likly not how it will appear in the movie. So chill out and just enjoy it for what it is, a little tease. I personaly don't want to see any more of this movie until I can see it in the theater. I am not ging to spoil it for myself.

I think I am in the minority. I don't like what I am seeing. The robots have too many lines and parts to see them clearly. It makes it too difficult to spot hands, fingers, faces, etc. easily. Optimus Prime and Bunecrusher look like heaps of metal. Also the robots move awkwardly. Bonecrusher looks like he is skating.

Stormrider wrote:I think I am in the minority. I don't like what I am seeing. The robots have too many lines and parts to see them clearly. It makes it too difficult to spot hands, fingers, faces, etc. easily. Optimus Prime and Bunecrusher look like heaps of metal. Also the robots move awkwardly. Bonecrusher looks like he is skating.

Thats because he is. He has wheels near his feet so most likely they move into place. Seeing him skate isnt that bad compared to the bm transmetal megatron skating, and I think he did it in dinosaur mode to top it off.

Sonray wrote:

Venomous Prime wrote:Animation screw ups, you people wanted G1 after all

You get a grammy for that.

I do what I can, but why do I get a music award for telling the truth about a movie?

qwailo wrote:Ok i just studied the clip again after i read this and i can safely say that you are totally wrong about everything. Think before you post muppet!

I was thinking, thats kinda how I managed to compose the post.

Chris™ wrote:Simple answer regarding the bridge.

Its a truncated clip ie not the entire scene

See, I'm willing to believe that if it weren't for the fact they roll out of the scene with the white truck and roll INTO the bridge scene, as though it were one action. I'm pretty certain its missing a scene, its just for that roll that I'm a little in doubt.

Stormrider wrote:I think I am in the minority. I don't like what I am seeing. The robots have too many lines and parts to see them clearly. It makes it too difficult to spot hands, fingers, faces, etc. easily. Optimus Prime and Bunecrusher look like heaps of metal. Also the robots move awkwardly. Bonecrusher looks like he is skating.

He is. His wheels are on his feet (take another look, theres a thick black tire on the end of each foot). Think its the same for the toy if you want another look. And yeah, they do seem to move awkwardly; Prime's first steps onto the freeway are a bit wierd. He impacts the ground from a fair height but his knees dont bend to accomodate the impact

EDIT: didnt realise this had already been answered ^^;

I am not a movie critic so I am not going to sit here and nitpick about animation errors or whatever. I am a transformers fan and as such all I can say is...

BRING IT ON!!!!!

ALL WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW NOW IS WHO IS DOING THE VOCIES. BONCRUSHER VOICE SURE SOUNDS LIKE DEVESTATOR FROM THE CARTOON WHEN YOU LISTEN TO CLIP. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. ALSO WILL SMITH DOING HE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT

Meverix wrote:

qwailo wrote:Ok i just studied the clip again after i read this and i can safely say that you are totally wrong about everything. Think before you post muppet!

I was thinking, thats kinda how I managed to compose the post.

Chris™ wrote:Simple answer regarding the bridge.

Its a truncated clip ie not the entire scene

See, I'm willing to believe that if it weren't for the fact they roll out of the scene with the white truck and roll INTO the bridge scene, as though it were one action. I'm pretty certain its missing a scene, its just for that roll that I'm a little in doubt.

It had to have been edited that way so when they showed it last night it looked like one fluid battle, not so that everyone and their grandmama could pick it apart.

SORRY WILL SMITH DOING JAZZ

SORRY WILL SMITH DOING JAZZ

Venomous Prime wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Venomous Prime wrote:Animation screw ups, you people wanted G1 after all

You get a grammy for that.

I do what I can, but why do I get a music award for telling the truth about a movie?

Cos nothing ever makes sense round here, you know that. (plus i dont know the difference between a grammy or an emmy or a whatever, theres so many bloody awards around these days)

osubot20 wrote:SORRY WILL SMITH DOING JAZZ

Nah....we need Xzhibit for Jazz!

Chris™ wrote:It had to have been edited that way so when they showed it last night it looked like one fluid battle, not so that everyone and their grandmama could pick it apart.

Editted for show, yeah I can understand that, so long as its not part of the main film I can handle that.

And I don't understand why people are having such a problem with the few of us who can see these things. I promise I didn't set out specifically to find errors! I'm a TransFan too, I do want to enjoy this movie. I just happened to see these things.

...

Speechless...

I like it.

Meverix wrote:

Chris™ wrote:It had to have been edited that way so when they showed it last night it looked like one fluid battle, not so that everyone and their grandmama could pick it apart.

Editted for show, yeah I can understand that, so long as its not part of the main film I can handle that.

And I don't understand why people are having such a problem with the few of us who can see these things. I promise I didn't set out specifically to find errors! I'm a TransFan too, I do want to enjoy this movie. I just happened to see these things.

Its ok i noticed the truck thing before i saw this thread, but all the other bits you mentioned i had never noticed apart from b-crushers hand infront of the truck.

I dunno what the big deal is really. ALL Movies have mistakes like this in them especially such huge films like TF. I mean in The Matrix you can see the strings, in Aliens you can see a film crew members foot, many films you can see the crew in the reflection of something, in MI:" during the bike chase their tyres change from road tyres to off road tyres in the blink of an eye. All movies have errors, so why is this an exception?

Nothing can be perfect if created by the hand of man.

Sonray wrote:

Meverix wrote:

Chris™ wrote:It had to have been edited that way so when they showed it last night it looked like one fluid battle, not so that everyone and their grandmama could pick it apart.

Editted for show, yeah I can understand that, so long as its not part of the main film I can handle that.

And I don't understand why people are having such a problem with the few of us who can see these things. I promise I didn't set out specifically to find errors! I'm a TransFan too, I do want to enjoy this movie. I just happened to see these things.

Its ok i noticed the truck thing before i saw this thread, but all the other bits you mentioned i had never noticed apart from b-crushers hand infront of the truck.

I dunno what the big deal is really. ALL Movies have mistakes like this in them especially such huge films like TF. I mean in The Matrix you can see the strings, in Aliens you can see a film crew members foot, many films you can see the crew in the reflection of something, in MI:" during the bike chase their tyres change from road tyres to off road tyres in the blink of an eye. All movies have errors, so why is this an exception?

Nothing can be perfect if created by the hand of man.

Oh sure, lots of movies have errors, no question. But these errors were sat on somebody's computer monitor rendering for a reported 38 hours a frame? They were sat there looking obvious for some time and nobody noticed? That's what bothers me.

osubot20 wrote:ALL WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW NOW IS WHO IS DOING THE VOCIES. BONCRUSHER VOICE SURE SOUNDS LIKE DEVESTATOR FROM THE CARTOON WHEN YOU LISTEN TO CLIP. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. ALSO WILL SMITH DOING HE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT

not so much with the caps please =( i think my ears are bleeding skidrow

osubot20 wrote:ALL WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW NOW IS WHO IS DOING THE VOCIES. BONCRUSHER VOICE SURE SOUNDS LIKE DEVESTATOR FROM THE CARTOON WHEN YOU LISTEN TO CLIP. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. ALSO WILL SMITH DOING HE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT

will smith? you should be punched in the arm:-x
lemme guess, you want sanjay to do hot rod's voice for the next one?

decepticonjon wrote:

osubot20 wrote:ALL WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW NOW IS WHO IS DOING THE VOCIES. BONCRUSHER VOICE SURE SOUNDS LIKE DEVESTATOR FROM THE CARTOON WHEN YOU LISTEN TO CLIP. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. ALSO WILL SMITH DOING HE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT

will smith? you should be punched in the arm:-x
lemme guess, you want sanjay to do hot rod's voice for the next one?

Hey, ease up. Nobody's opinion demands an sarcastic retort.

For all the crappy hype Bay and co have given this film about being "realistic" and "as real looking as possible" The whole fight scene still looks like 3d models chucked on the top of some pre shot footage. The shadowing in particular is fairly ordinary.

Still looks like a decent rumble though!

Meverix wrote: Hey, ease up. Nobody's opinion demands an sarcastic retort.

WHHHAAAAAAATTT?!?!?!? It doesnt?! This is news to me!

Sonray wrote:

Meverix wrote: Hey, ease up. Nobody's opinion demands an sarcastic retort.

WHHHAAAAAAATTT?!?!?!? It doesnt?! This is news to me!

Well with the way the boards have been recently, i guess you cant be blamed for thinkijng otherwise

*Picks Jaw up off the floor*