Online Availability and Official Images of all Toy Fair Reveals for Studio Series and Siege Including Springer's Car Mode

Deluxe Class Jetfire offers so much bang for the buck! What incredible value!

cloudballoon wrote:Deluxe Class Jetfire offers so much bang for the buck! What incredible value!

Hasbro made another mistake in their official promotional images. Smashdown and Caliburst are not Micro Masters. They are Battle Masters. It's interesting to note that we haven't seen anything new of the actual Micro Master price point aside from Countdown, who comes with Omega Supreme.

Beware, Hasbro Pulse will charge your card immediately if you preorder!

Just found out when I preordered two SS DOTM Optimus figures.

Am I the only one who thinks that Drift could be used as the base for Airachnid? It still won't be show accurate but it's pretty similar looking in alt mode. Swap the head, chest, shoulders, thighs and rotors. Hell, I'd probably just take a head and rotor swap at this point.

Heh. Funny. Deluxe Jetfire. Well, if they only want to charge deluxe class price for it...

It's amusing how really good Springer looks and how really godawful Impactor looks.

DotM Prime is my thing. I just finished having a go at painting up my SS32 Prime which is basically the same figure minus the trailer so will likely try painting that one up too when I get it.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:It's amusing how really good Springer looks and how really godawful Impactor looks.

I agree 100% and I think we should celebrate since we rarely agree on things. I am surprised though since Springer is very blocky. He wears it as well as anyone could of course but I thought you were against that kind of aesthetic.

william-james88 wrote:...Springer is very blocky. He wears it as well as anyone could of course...

SIEGE Springer is a thing of beauty! He makes the Thrilling 30/Generations/Legends version look like hot garbage, and that figure was fantastic!

These are very exciting!

I_AM... MEGATRON! wrote:Beware, Hasbro Pulse will charge your card immediately if you preorder!

Just found out when I preordered two SS DOTM Optimus figures.

Does that mean it gave you the Premium upgrade thing? I've been trying to find if you have to buy something currently in stock or not for it to apply.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:...Springer is very blocky. He wears it as well as anyone could of course...

SIEGE Springer is a thing of beauty! He makes the Thrilling 30/Generations/Legends version look like hot garbage, and that figure was fantastic!

This statement is so full of wrong, its reset my brain....


To each their own. I actually kinda like Siege Springer, but I think his Thrilling 30 version is better. Hell, I just flat out miss the Thrilling 30 line.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:...Springer is very blocky. He wears it as well as anyone could of course...

SIEGE Springer is a thing of beauty! He makes the Thrilling 30/Generations/Legends version look like hot garbage, and that figure was fantastic!

This statement is so full of wrong, its reset my brain....


To each their own. I actually kinda like Siege Springer, but I think his Thrilling 30 version is better. Hell, I just flat out miss the Thrilling 30 line.

As you said, to each their own. Thrilling 30 Springer was great for the time, but for people (like me) who want a better "G1 Upgrade" of the character, the SIEGE version is the one to get. He's got all the right sculpting, shapes, and colors. It's like he popped right out of the original cartoon and into our hearts display shelves. The T30 version is a nice stylized/reinterpreted version of G1 Springer, hindered partly because of the QC issues with everything tabbing together nice and tight in the alt modes.

I fail to see how Siege Springer looks like any kind of upgrade to the G1 cartoon design. Thrilling 30 Springer looked liked an upgrade, while Siege Springer just looks like his normal, unchanged, ordinary base form.

william-james88 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:It's amusing how really good Springer looks and how really godawful Impactor looks.

I agree 100% and I think we should celebrate since we rarely agree on things. I am surprised though since Springer is very blocky. He wears it as well as anyone could of course but I thought you were against that kind of aesthetic.

I still have fondness for the Marvel UK comics and Springer was often in that and despite the blockiness (which is more acceptable for a comic/toon character, not so much for a realistic one) he's one of the few characters from G1 I still think looks kinda neat for some reason. I still have the 30th thrilling figure but I'm done with. If there is even one Siege figure I may buy it'll probably be this Springer... but I want to see size with other figures cos I hoped it was a deluxe but it says voyager and being voyager was one of the few big issues I had with the 30th figure. He shouldn't be more than a lil taller than associated characters like Hot Rod and Arcee. Even odder than here he's a voyager and Impactor is a deluxe when Impactor is supposed to be the taller one whether IDW or Marvel.

Who’s the fourth siege deluxe going to be? Reflector or Brunt? Why aren’t there pre orders for them? Is someone from wave one getting repacked?

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Who’s the fourth siege deluxe going to be? Reflector or Brunt? Why aren’t there pre orders for them? Is someone from wave one getting repacked?

Leaks and promo art say Barricade, and we know they haven't shown all the retail figures yet anyway, so...probably Barricade.

Edit: To make it clearer:
Wave 3 Deluxes - Red Alert, Refraktor, Brunt, ??? (Barricade)
Wave 4 Deluxes: Impactor, Mirage

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Who’s the fourth siege deluxe going to be? Reflector or Brunt? Why aren’t there pre orders for them? Is someone from wave one getting repacked?

Leaks and promo art say Barricade, and we know they haven't shown all the retail figures yet anyway, so...probably Barricade.

Edit: To make it clearer:
Wave 3 Deluxes - Red Alert, Refraktor, Brunt, ??? (Barricade)
Wave 4 Deluxes: Impactor, Mirage

Oh.... they’re mixing waves..... explains why I can’t put a finger on how many studio series constructicons are coming out this summer....

Sabrblade wrote:I fail to see how Siege Springer looks like any kind of upgrade to the G1 cartoon design. Thrilling 30 Springer looked liked an upgrade, while Siege Springer just looks like his normal, unchanged, ordinary base form.

That's the point, Sabr. It's not an upgrade to the G1 character model, it's an upgrade to the G1 toy. G1 with knees/elbows and such. T30 Springer isn't really an "upgrade" of the cartoon model so much as it is a reinterpretation/stylization of the original Springer archetype.

3, 2, 1. Okay here we go.

KSI Boss, looks okay. Already have that Nitro Zeus dude, good solid figure but this guy. Doesn't he need 2 heads? Don't think I'll get him, to much the same.

Drift, don't like the character. If the transformation is easy I might get him at reduced price.

DOTM Optimus, looks great and screen accurate (for once). Won't get him, I have my forrest battle Optimus from the studio series and happy with it.

High Tower, I love Constructicons, even the ROTF ones. This guy is just so pathetic it's almost cute. I'll get them all of course, need that real Devastator.

Dropkick = cool. Will get.

Optimus Prime Bumblebee movie = pure love, will need in my life.

Red Alert, I so love that Sideswipe mold, so slick, so perfect. Will get.

Mirage, also looks perfect, will get.

Siege Optimus Cybertron, again, lots of love, will get.

Omega Supreme, well, he is perfect, magnificent and majestic. Must get.

Springer looks great and bulky. I didn't like the Thrilling 30's version of him and was considering getting Energon Bulkhead.
But now, that's not neccesary, here is Springer.

Jetfire, wow he's a deluxe! I thought he was another big ass leader. Very refreshing. I hope they repaint him to death, looks like a really fun mold!

Thundercracker, I always wanted a voyager G1 seeker trio and felt very sorry for myself when Armada Skywarp had that silly head. Well the mold had a little shoulder articulation problems. But now we have this.
They may repaint this mold all colors of the rainbow, will get them all.


Hasbro is being awesome in my opinion the last years.

noctorro wrote:Jetfire, wow he's a deluxe! I thought he was another big ass leader. Very refreshing. I hope they repaint him to death, looks like a really fun mold!

Jetfire is NOT a Deluxe, that is an error, he's an $80 Commander Class figure (i.e. bigger than a Leader).

Also, no love for Impactor?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Who’s the fourth siege deluxe going to be? Reflector or Brunt? Why aren’t there pre orders for them? Is someone from wave one getting repacked?

Leaks and promo art say Barricade, and we know they haven't shown all the retail figures yet anyway, so...probably Barricade.

Edit: To make it clearer:
Wave 3 Deluxes - Red Alert, Refraktor, Brunt, ??? (Barricade)
Wave 4 Deluxes: Impactor, Mirage

Wave 3 is just Red Alert, Refraktor, and Brunt with no fourth figure.
Wave 4 is Impactor, Mirage, Sixgun (repack), and a mystery figure that's likely Barricade.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Who’s the fourth siege deluxe going to be? Reflector or Brunt? Why aren’t there pre orders for them? Is someone from wave one getting repacked?

Leaks and promo art say Barricade, and we know they haven't shown all the retail figures yet anyway, so...probably Barricade.

Edit: To make it clearer:
Wave 3 Deluxes - Red Alert, Refraktor, Brunt, ??? (Barricade)
Wave 4 Deluxes: Impactor, Mirage

Wave 3 is just Red Alert, Refraktor, and Brunt with no fourth figure.
Wave 4 is Impactor, Mirage, Sixgun (repack), and a mystery figure that's likely Barricade.

Emerje

Yeah, I posted this before the exact Deluxe case breakdowns showed up, I'm aware of this now.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

noctorro wrote:Jetfire, wow he's a deluxe! I thought he was another big ass leader. Very refreshing. I hope they repaint him to death, looks like a really fun mold!

Jetfire is NOT a Deluxe, that is an error, he's an $80 Commander Class figure (i.e. bigger than a Leader).

Also, no love for Impactor?

HAhaha lol, they got me.

How could they put all that detail and solid body parts into a deluxe.
Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?) is also good. He'll be towering over everybody like he should.

I don't know Impactor, can't seem to get myself into comics (grew up with cartoons and movies) I'm 34, old and rusty. I do like games, never saw him there.
He looks okay, I might get him.

But man, just way to hyped for Siege and Cyberverse. The new stuff is looking great, simple transformations, more articulation, solid figures (from the looks of it) and G1 as well. A house can only hold so much plastic

noctorro wrote:Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?)

Nope. The average Supreme was about 15 inches tall. This Jetfire's only 11 inches, shorter than a CW Combiner.

Sabrblade wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?)

Nope. The average Supreme was about 15 inches tall. This Jetfire's only 11 inches, shorter than a CW Combiner.

Again, in a line where everything's a little smaller, especially leaders, Commander really is like the modern Supreme. And while Hasbro measured him at 11", Takara Tomy measured him at 300mm (11.81 inches), exactly the same as they promoted UW combiners at.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?)

Nope. The average Supreme was about 15 inches tall. This Jetfire's only 11 inches, shorter than a CW Combiner.

Again, in a line where everything's a little smaller, especially leaders, Commander really is like the modern Supreme. And while Hasbro measured him at 11", Takara Tomy measured him at 300mm (11.81 inches), exactly the same as they promoted UW combiners at.

Emerje[/quot

The new motto of Hasbro: "More money for less toy!"

Ironhidensh wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?)

Nope. The average Supreme was about 15 inches tall. This Jetfire's only 11 inches, shorter than a CW Combiner.

Again, in a line where everything's a little smaller, especially leaders, Commander really is like the modern Supreme. And while Hasbro measured him at 11", Takara Tomy measured him at 300mm (11.81 inches), exactly the same as they promoted UW combiners at.

Emerje[/quot

The new motto of Hasbro: "More money for less toy!"

It's not less toy, the weight analysis showed you are getting as much material as before, plus Siege has more paint/detail/steps than any main line of the past 5 years.

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?)

Nope. The average Supreme was about 15 inches tall. This Jetfire's only 11 inches, shorter than a CW Combiner.

Again, in a line where everything's a little smaller, especially leaders, Commander really is like the modern Supreme. And while Hasbro measured him at 11", Takara Tomy measured him at 300mm (11.81 inches), exactly the same as they promoted UW combiners at.

Emerje

Supers (the predecessors of Leaders) used to be that big. Commander is basically the new Super class.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well, Commander class (old school Supreme class?)

Nope. The average Supreme was about 15 inches tall. This Jetfire's only 11 inches, shorter than a CW Combiner.

Again, in a line where everything's a little smaller, especially leaders, Commander really is like the modern Supreme. And while Hasbro measured him at 11", Takara Tomy measured him at 300mm (11.81 inches), exactly the same as they promoted UW combiners at.

Emerje

Supers (the predecessors of Leaders) used to be that big. Commander is basically the new Super class.

Yes, but Super was just a new name for Leaders at the same price point and Leaders shrank. Since Leaders are still around that makes the next size up from them the equivalent to the next size up from Super at the time which is Supreme. It'll get mess if we start saying things like "Siege Leaders are the new Ultras". The sizes may be comparable, but that's not exactly how classes should work. It should be based on an ordinal scale (Deluxe, Voyager, Leader), not a figure size (5", 7", 9").

Emerje

While we have seen all the toys below already on showfloors or renders but now we have final product shots for the toys shown at Toy Fair a few months back which includes Siege Springer and Thundercracker, SS Drift, Dropkick and Hightower. These should give us the best idea of the final decos and how the battle damage will look like. it also confirms that Thundercracker does indeed come with a smirking face. We can see both the vehicle and robot mode in one image and in the case for Springer, we see both his alt modes, with his car mode in a configuration we had not seen yet. The images were posted on In Demand Toys' Facebook page and on Forbidden Planet. Everyone of these items can be ordered from various retailers right now such as Hasbro Pulse, BBTS, TFSource, Amazon and more.

Here is what you will find in the images below:

Transformers War of Cybertron: Siege


Voyager Thundercracker
Voyager Springer with both alt modes

Transformers Studio Series

Deluxe Helicopter Drift
Deluxe Car Mode Dropkick
Deluxe Hightower

I like the blue they used from DropKar. I never had an issue with Dropkopter's blue but this IMO looks better. Hopefully it doesn't (excuse the pun) "shatter" like his partner

Hopefully this figure will be "off the chains"

Springers light blue looks cheap. Kinda scaring me away

Nathaniel Prime wrote:I like the blue they used from DropKar. I never had an issue with Dropkopter's blue but this IMO looks better. Hopefully it doesn't (excuse the pun) "shatter" like his partner

Hopefully this figure will be "off the chains"

You magnificent dastard.

Cheetron wrote:Springers light blue looks cheap. Kinda scaring me away

I believe the word you're looking for is "pastel".

I bet everyone and their Grandma who're picking up Thundercracker will be swapping that head with Starscream (Myself included)

Sabrblade wrote:

Cheetron wrote:Springers light blue looks cheap. Kinda scaring me away

I believe the word you're looking for is "pastel".

I think all the bright green and the lighting are just bringing out a bit more blue than usual in the gray plastic. Regardless, I love it. It really makes him "pop."

Hightower is so ugly, it’s almost hilarious. Definitely going to pick him up, though I’ll probably keep him out of his robot mode as much as possible.

Ig89ninja wrote:Hightower is so ugly, it’s almost hilarious. Definitely going to pick him up, though I’ll probably keep him out of his robot mode as much as possible.

He's a goddanged T-Rex Crane, of course he's ugly! That's part of the appeal!

Just noticed that on Dropkick's cover box art, the door wing is backwards

Not interested in any of these. Springer looks nice, but i think i prefer the one we got a couple years ago.

No regular Hook for Hightower?

They overall look great. I like Springer, will get him.
Hightower is just funny, he must be very unhappy in robot mode.
Thundercracker, must for me. I don't like the character Drift so all his toys turn me off.
Dropkick looks very cool! More classic chest and the wheels as shoulders, love it.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:Just noticed that on Dropkick's cover box art, the door wing is backwards

That's actually accurate to the movie, and the toy is wrong! His door wings were backwards in the film, which was a nice change of appearance that I wish the toy had mirrored

Please don't tell me that Thundercracker actually has that smirk. That's more Skywarp's look.

Springer is a secret herald of "Blunicron".




Emerje

Vidimus Prime wrote:Please don't tell me that Thundercracker actually has that smirk. That's more Skywarp's look.

Might be able to head swap. Kind of wish Star Scream was smirking

I was really looking forward to Thundercracker, he's my favorite Seeker, but he is just so blue. It's like when they took Superman's red underwear away. It needs to be broken up a little bit more to me. I think I might have to paint him. But I like the smirk face to swap with Starscream

Epsilon Delta wrote:I was really looking forward to Thundercracker, he's my favorite Seeker, but he is just so blue. It's like when they took Superman's red underwear away. It needs to be broken up a little bit more to me. I think I might have to paint him. But I like the smirk face to swap with Starscream

I agree, the colors seem a bit off with him, I'm digging it less as time goes

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Epsilon Delta wrote:I was really looking forward to Thundercracker, he's my favorite Seeker, but he is just so blue. It's like when they took Superman's red underwear away. It needs to be broken up a little bit more to me. I think I might have to paint him. But I like the smirk face to swap with Starscream

I agree, the colors seem a bit off with him, I'm digging it less as time goes

I think it's the wings. They usually have more color to them. I still might pick him up if I see him in the flesh.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Nathaniel Prime wrote:Just noticed that on Dropkick's cover box art, the door wing is backwards

That's actually accurate to the movie, and the toy is wrong! His door wings were backwards in the film, which was a nice change of appearance that I wish the toy had mirrored

I gotta see the movie again, because these sort of things drive me crazy. How did the doors switch sides? What?

I find these details hard to unsee

Epsilon Delta wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Epsilon Delta wrote:I was really looking forward to Thundercracker, he's my favorite Seeker, but he is just so blue. It's like when they took Superman's red underwear away. It needs to be broken up a little bit more to me. I think I might have to paint him. But I like the smirk face to swap with Starscream

I agree, the colors seem a bit off with him, I'm digging it less as time goes

I think it's the wings. They usually have more color to them. I still might pick him up if I see him in the flesh.

He's my favorite, so I may still get him. But I'm probably not going to get too many from that mold. I wish his blue was a bit darker, more like the CW toy too