Official Trailer Video for HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Unicron by Hasbro's John Warden

PadForce wrote:ill happily come in when its open to UK buyers.

Im not paying $575 to hasbro, then a profit margin to a third party, then import tax, then shipping fees calculate on a 1 unit basis.. when Hasbro could easily ship a crate to the UK at vastly reduced per unit prices, and also not be subject to the import costs.

They have made it at least 50% more expensive than it should be for non US buyers, which is plain dumb if you need to sell a certain number.

megatronus wrote:I'd also like official clarity on what orders will count towards the 8000. My understanding is that Takara Tomy orders DO NOT count, based on conversations others have had with the brand team at SDCC, and that Canadian, UK, Aussie, etc. orders thru EB Games and the like WILL count.

blackeyedprime wrote:Part of him contains Galvatrons barbershop that contains the iconic facial hair (which is just different kinds of tashes and side burns). Also he comes with one wig and a studded leather jacket so he can rock out with the knights of Unicron. Musical instrument only included with SDCC version.

blackeyedprime wrote:Part of him contains Galvatrons barbershop that contains the iconic facial hair (which is just different kinds of tashes and side burns). Also he comes with one wig and a studded leather jacket so he can rock out with the knights of Unicron. Musical instrument only included with SDCC version.

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Part of him contains Galvatrons barbershop that contains the iconic facial hair (which is just different kinds of tashes and side burns). Also he comes with one wig and a studded leather jacket so he can rock out with the knights of Unicron. Musical instrument only included with SDCC version.

I'm now picturing this unicron being like the inflatable Eddie that Iron Maiden had at a few of their gigs. He's a giant promo for the Knights of Unicron band... They need more exposure, its such a metal idea.

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

I understand that, you understand that - but most super fans don’t, so I think it would be helpful for Hasbro to clarify that for the fandom writ large.

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

I understand that, you understand that - but most super fans don’t, so I think it would be helpful for Hasbro to clarify that for the fandom writ large.

That's why I was pointing it out here, to alleviate the concerns that were expressed above on this page of the topic.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

I understand that, you understand that - but most super fans don’t, so I think it would be helpful for Hasbro to clarify that for the fandom writ large.

That's why I was pointing it out here, to alleviate the concerns that were expressed above on this page of the topic.

Sadly, only a few eyes will see that, and even then we don't know everything. It would be incredibly helpful is Hasbro/BBTS/Takara was more transparent and clear so that we could news it to people at large.

PadForce wrote:The UK customs could add literally whatever value they want.

If i ordered from a 3rd party i could end up with a situation where its either $100 import taxes, or $500.

I ordered a $12 T shirt once and the customs was $18. No way im risking that here.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

I understand that, you understand that - but most super fans don’t, so I think it would be helpful for Hasbro to clarify that for the fandom writ large.

That's why I was pointing it out here, to alleviate the concerns that were expressed above on this page of the topic.

Sadly, only a few eyes will see that, and even then we don't know everything. It would be incredibly helpful is Hasbro/BBTS/Takara was more transparent and clear so that we could news it to people at large.

Yeah, and I think we can also guess as to why Hasbro isn't pointing this out like we are. They probably want to focus on the Hasbro Pulse order numbers so as to generate more hype and attention, letting people think that they need to hop to it and put in more orders themselves, and not letting them know about the other options both in the U.S. and worldwide that will likely also contribute to the number only near the very end.

If more people think that this figure is in a more dire need of orders, Hasbro thinks that more people who want this thing to get made will put in more orders to Pulse, when those of us more savvy like ourselves here know that the other options will surely help increase the number on Pulse exponentially towards the end. By not making that clear, Hasbro thinks they can keep the general unawares on the edge of their seat with anticipation, and it seems to be working to some extent, as evidenced by the concerns expressed by other above.

It's kinda devious when you think about it.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

I understand that, you understand that - but most super fans don’t, so I think it would be helpful for Hasbro to clarify that for the fandom writ large.

That's why I was pointing it out here, to alleviate the concerns that were expressed above on this page of the topic.

Sadly, only a few eyes will see that, and even then we don't know everything. It would be incredibly helpful is Hasbro/BBTS/Takara was more transparent and clear so that we could news it to people at large.

Yeah, and I think we can also guess as to why Hasbro isn't pointing this out like we are. They probably want to focus on the Hasbro Pulse order numbers so as to generate more hype and attention, letting people think that they need to hop to it and put in more orders themselves, and not letting them know about the other options both in the U.S. and worldwide that will likely also contribute to the number only near the very end.

If more people think that this figure is in a more dire need of orders, Hasbro thinks that more people who want this thing to get made will put in more orders to Pulse, when those of us more savvy like ourselves here know that the other options will surely help increase the number on Pulse exponentially towards the end. By not making that clear, Hasbro thinks they can keep the general unawares on the edge of their seat with anticipation, and it seems to be working to some extent, as evidenced by the concerns expressed by other above.

It's kinda devious when you think about it.

This feels counterintuitive to me. I see it as the number being so low, people wont even bother. But if its so close to succeeding, then more people will rally for it to be made. Like Kickstarter with extra goals and such.

william-james88 wrote:We'll see. Regardless of how this all plays out, I will say it certainly wasn't a boring time to be a Transformers fan.

william-james88 wrote:

PadForce wrote:The UK customs could add literally whatever value they want.

If i ordered from a 3rd party i could end up with a situation where its either $100 import taxes, or $500.

I ordered a $12 T shirt once and the customs was $18. No way im risking that here.

Ha, Happened to me once too in Canada. Lego set was $35 USD, Customs was $16 CAD. I am paying half for customs?!

Hysterically depressive stuff aside, I think our high sums were due to the idea of fixed cost and variable cost. UK and Canada seem to operate similarly. They will charge you the variable tax fee equivalent to what you'd pay if you bought the item locally (where I am, that would be 15%), but on top of that you have to pay a fixed fee for the customs office. Basically, you are paying them for their time to write how much you owe the government as a result of not shopping locally. The flat fee in Canada is 10$.

So $35 USD becomes about $45 CAD. 15% of that is about $6. So add $6 to the $10 flate fee ad you get $16 in customs fees. Your thing with the UK was probably similar.

Of course with Unicron, hasbro charges taxes to everyone who purchases through pulse up front, so there is no extra customs fee to pay later for Canadians.

PadForce wrote:Just to confirm then, do US and Canada buyers pay $575 plus tax? UK prices always include tax so that throws me.

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

I understand that, you understand that - but most super fans don’t, so I think it would be helpful for Hasbro to clarify that for the fandom writ large.

That's why I was pointing it out here, to alleviate the concerns that were expressed above on this page of the topic.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:We'll see. Regardless of how this all plays out, I will say it certainly wasn't a boring time to be a Transformers fan.

Indubitably! Especially with the enormous swathe of reveals that we got both right before and during SDCC, and then later in Japan at Summer Festival.

Commercialized with 8,000 worldwide! Acceptance starts at Takara Tomy Mall in Japan!

william-james88 wrote:
I want some clarity too because takara sure aint singing the same tune in their promotions. One thing I do want to point out though since I know you want to get the facts straight, only Australia has a partnership with EB Games. Canadians order through Pulse, same as Americans, so they are already included and always were. And as far as I know, the UK do not have first party partner to order this from, so I wouldn't include them in that part I bolded. Basically, all that is counted on the Hasbro side are Pulse orders and Australian orders though Zing/EB Games.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That is more true than you know. A friend of mine is still waiting his SIEGE Jetfire. "Delayed" is the only response from Hasbro UK, for the last couple weeks

Immortal Starscream wrote:I want this guy badly, but at this point with only 18 days left, and not even halfway to the goal, I don't see it happening same with the cookie monster (I want that one too but cant afford both... actually I cant afford either, but thats a horse of a different color) still anything can happen (please let this happen)

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
I want some clarity too because takara sure aint singing the same tune in their promotions. One thing I do want to point out though since I know you want to get the facts straight, only Australia has a partnership with EB Games. Canadians order through Pulse, same as Americans, so they are already included and always were. And as far as I know, the UK do not have first party partner to order this from, so I wouldn't include them in that part I bolded. Basically, all that is counted on the Hasbro side are Pulse orders and Australian orders though Zing/EB Games.

That is more true than you know. A friend of mine is still waiting his SIEGE Jetfire. "Delayed" is the only response from Hasbro UK, for the last couple weeks

To pull back the curtain on how bad Customs can be here: I once bought the G1 Piranacon boxset from BBTS. It worked out around $20, which after converting into £, was an entire combiner team for less than £15 at the time.
Bargain!

A couple weeks later I received a letter from Customs, with a bill for £30
Suffice to say, I've never used BBTS since.

PadForce wrote:So UK based TFs Express has unicron at £599. I assume shipping is on top.

Anyone used this before?

william-james88 wrote:45 pounds for a complete and mint g1 combiner is still a great deal.

joevill wrote:It's quite sad that this hasn't been fully backed by now.

Sabrblade wrote:Jabba's sail barge got a sudden surge of 5000 orders on its last day, after having sat around 3000 for the large majority of its preorder time.

The number seen on Hasbro Pulse is specifically for the number of preorders made through Hasbro Pulse, not factoring in all of the other preorders made through all of the international preorder channels and all of the alternative American retailers like BBTS and TFSource. The number of preorders from all of those venues likely won't be added until near to the very end of the preorder time in order to give each of those venues as much time to maximize all of their preorders as they can gather before submitting their order totals to Hasbro.

joevill wrote:It's quite sad that this hasn't been fully backed by now.

Emerje wrote:It would be strange if the Takara Tomy Mall orders don't count towards the goal when it's written all over TTM order page that it does.

Using a Google translation, but it seems accurate:

Commercialized with 8,000 worldwide! Acceptance starts at Takara Tomy Mall in Japan!

They've put many more stipulations on this order than anything I've ever seen on the site before, even they're own crowdfunds. Has anyone else here placed an order through TTM? I have (using a proxy shipping address) and just for fun I tried just seeing what would happen if I started the order process on Unicron and it was completely different from normal orders. Even the payment system is very restrictive, only allowing credit cards when they normally have a bunch of different payment options including paying at 7-11. It's a very specialized system just for Unicron. And it has nothing to do with the price, they've sold other things in the store before that have cost this much and even now they have 65,000 JPY golf bags on the store that you can just toss in your cart. They even cut the orders off early, what would be around midnight on the morning of 8/30 giving them ample time to add their orders to Hasbro's.

No matter how I look at it the TTM orders count.

Emerje