Official Renders for Transformers: Power of the Primes Orion Pax / Optimus Prime

Leader Prime could make a good stand in for MP-10. I'm interested in getting him, but I'm also into Hot Rod and Primal.

So...Is it too early to talk about Box Sets? -I know in some regions, some were online exclusives, but generally speaking, Hasbro released 7 for CW, and 2 for TR (btw...was the 4 box set thing ever confirmed by Hasbro? Since only 2 were reported from Toy Fair back in Feb, or was it just speculation based on the fact that there were 4 clones?)

Anyway...I love the box sets, but from what's been reported, they generally don't sell well. I still maintain that if they were offered at B&M in the United States, they would sell fairly well if the CoV set has shown us anything...Yes I see the pics from Canadian toy stores where they just sit, and the fact that HTS pretty much sold all their CW sets at some point up to 70% off, which are all detractors.

however we know we are getting Predaking next year, as the Titan for summer 2019. There are still several Combiners that could be developed. Also the CW toyline had 6 waves, TR had 5 (I'm not counting Slugslinger, since he easily could have been included in wave 5...) .

Most all of the first 2 waves have been revealed...and portions of waves 3 & 4 have been leaked...Is anyone holding out any hopes for any other box sets besides Predaking in this line? I know I am, but I know Hasbro doesn't want to lose money either, so we may not...

I can't wait to paint those hands blue!! I need to start locking in my pre-orders when they go up. This line is gonna be AMAZING!

Eh, it doesn't exactly break any rules; speculation happens here all the time. Hell, considering we now know how about 4/6 of the waves will go due to leaks - and that some later-wave Deluxes can be predicted due to team completion needs - there's actually not a whole lot else to speculate about. Go for it my dude.

I'm fully expecting to get Combiner boxsets like we did back in CW since, well, this is basically CW redone (and from what we've seen, I'd argue it's being done better). Since Legends no longer form guns or chestplates or what have you though, we might not see those as part of Combiner boxsets -- maybe we'll get two Prime Masters per boxset instead?

I do wonder exactly what boxset Combiners we'll get, though. Abominus and Predaking don't have G2 or even prototype G2 colourations to call upon like the 1986 guys, and most other Combiners are completely original ones made up of old characters. There's also not a fan-made Combiner this time around either.
I still like the idea of G2 Defensor though, especially since Inferno aside none of those molds are in use in the line and hence you're getting something which feels a little more fresh. Moreso if you started with TR or this line. ... also, I want to see everyone's reactions to another use of the Alpha Bravo and Dead End molds
G2 Dinobots could also be a thing since we had some of those guys released in G2 while the others at least had G2 concept colours.
Maybe they'd save some retools for an eventual Pirhanacon or Monstructor boxset?

I think this is the first time I've been excited about other offerings actually. PotP Dinobots, Starscream (Voyager), and Leader Optimus Prime and Rodimus are both on my to buy list. Titan Predaking and maybe the Terrorcons too. Wonder if there's going to be another Megatron, but you know I'm content with what we've got of him for the last couple years since the CW Leaders were shown and released. It'll be nice to balance my CW G1 Megatron with the PotP Optimus Prime though. Definitely will scale better than the CW Voyager Optimus Prime I have.

Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Grimlocks torso mode looks pretty problematic. Shame too cause I am excited for Volcanicus.

And that Optimus Prime... It just looks so good

We've seen Prime's "matrix master" quite a lot now, but have we had a chance to see its robot mode?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:We've seen Prime's "matrix master" quite a lot now, but have we had a chance to see its robot mode?

That's Micronus, largely based on Pretender Cloudburst, and is available separately.



He's merely used as an example in how he can replace the (non-transforming) Matrix Core.

That's Micronus, largely based on Pretender Cloudburst, and is available separately.



He's merely used as an example in how he can replace the (non-transforming) Matrix Core.[/quote]

Ah, I was mistaken. I though this whole time the Matrix of Leadership would be another "master," and I was really curious about what that'd look like. Plenty of G1 material on the Mateix they could used in an homage. I'm thinking something from Rodimus's Matrix dream from Face Faces of Darkness.

I think people are so quick to jump on the hate train that they forget to use common sense. The combined mode that was shown off is a resin prototype, not plastic. Resin is very light and would most likely fall apart if not supported. That's why it was being held up. That's why the torso looks so cobbled together. It has nothing to do with the design of the figure it's the materials it's made out of.

Dinobots combined mode doesn't look good, but that's not a big deal for me as they will never be in that form once on display. I do still think deluxe class is too small for them. They should bump them all up one class, so that would make Grimlock a leader and the rest voyagers. In my opinion that would make more sense and they will look better next to the other figures.

steals_your_goats wrote:I think people are so quick to jump on the hate train that they forget to use common sense. The combined mode that was shown off is a resin prototype, not plastic. Resin is very light and would most likely fall apart if not supported. That's why it was being held up. That's why the torso looks so cobbled together. It has nothing to do with the design of the figure it's the materials it's made out of.

I'm sure that's true to some extent, but you can't say it doesn't look at least a little worrying. Admittedly it's possible that Grimlock's robot arms/dino legs/combiner shoulders will have CW-Long-Haul-strength ratchets, but from what we've seen they appear to be basically all that's holding the entire combined arms up - so if they're even a little bit too weak on the final toy, Voluptuousicus is probably going to be frustrating to say the least.

(Man, I'm starting to run out of dumb things to replace Volcanicus' name with. But I've already locked myself into this awful running "joke"; I can't just give up now! )

Sabrblade wrote:I am so glad to see that that Orion Pax was not given the kissy lips that he had in the cartoon.

nothin' wrong with full, kissy lips!
i would know

Most of the "pretenders" are sure buy from me. As well as that neat Orion Pax & Optimus Prime combo.

I'll wait and see for the Dinobots. Individually, the bots are amazing, but that combined for look awkward. Plus, who bet the team will be in a 150$CAN set?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Plus, who bet the team will be in a 150$CAN set?

With gold chromed parts...

We return to the Hascon coverage that you may have missed, as more recordings have made it onto our YouTube channel - starting with the Prime Wars Trilogy panel that saw the likes of toy designers, comic artists, concept artists, and game developers all take the stage to discuss the various phases of the progression from Combiner Wars to Titans Return, now to Power of the Primes!

People taking the lead are John Warden, Mario Carreiro, IDW's Marcelo Matere, Space Ape's Adam Kramarzewski and David Erwin and the material included in the clip, and the gallery that accompanies it, range from the blueprint of the Prime Wars concept, running through used and unused concepts and designs (including Megatronus, Prima, a SkyShadow looking Thunderwing and more), plus the clips we've seen from Machinima's Titans Return and Transformers: Earth Wars. Check it all out below!

Enjoy designs behind the celebrated Combiner Wars chapter of the Prime Wars Trilogy, animated in partnership with Machinima, as well as a peek at the upcoming Titans Return animated series. Learn how Hasbro enlisted the fan universe to expand their story world and the beloved characters that have brought the story to life. Fans in attendance will also be the first to see exciting reveals from the popular mobile game Transformers: Earth Wars published by Backflip and developed by Space Ape games.

There's the Devastator version of that Predaking stage we saw. So now we know what to call it. Not a mock up, but a Scale Model. Neat.

DMSL wrote:Dinobots combined mode doesn't look good, but that's not a big deal for me as they will never be in that form once on display. I do still think deluxe class is too small for them. They should bump them all up one class, so that would make Grimlock a leader and the rest voyagers. In my opinion that would make more sense and they will look better next to the other figures.

Eh, they can't scale everything up bro.
I was very surprised we even got Combiner Wars with deluxe limbs.

That Optimus looks very good.

However, I just ordered that Third Party Titans Return Power Master Prime cab to replace that hollow thing it has. So...
Anyway this Optimus looks a lot more like G1 Optimus.

The thing that bugs me, why the faux/fake chest?
Just like the Third Party Ginrai, why can't they just make a true G1 Optimus torso again?

I do hope they remold Orion Pax into a more G1 looking Optimus Prime at some point. But overall like this version and will pick him up (like all the other Power of the Primes figures as soon as I finish collecting all of the Titans Return figures, damn you Hasbro everything you made from Combiner Wars on is pure win in my eyes)

Maybe that's why the movie sucked, because they poured all their efforts into their Classics/Generations line.

Little bit on the fence about Starscreams tiny head and fake chest. But it's a lot better looking than the Combiner Wars seekers which I'm replacing the heads for self made 3d prints.

As for the new beast combiners... just awesome.
I need to clone myself because I don't have enough time to enjoy all the awesomeness they've been making in recent years. It's just too much for one Transformers fan :s

Is that just the base sketch of blackshadow or are we seeing a potential retool?

LE0KING wrote:Is that just the base sketch of blackshadow or are we seeing a potential retool?

A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

You know what that also means? Chances of DJD or other IDW in-fiction only characters getting the Generations treatment at higher scales is slim to none.

Which is strange; since TR just gave us Nautica, Quickswitch, Sky Shadow and Metalhawk.

Or maybe the design team thinks that one 1988 six-changer who was never in anything ever is more popular than a prominent villain in their multi-universal mythology, a recent cartoon and a live-action movie that made them a heckton of money. Seems rational to me.

mordhelm wrote:

LE0KING wrote:Is that just the base sketch of blackshadow or are we seeing a potential retool?

A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

You know what that also means? Chances of DJD or other IDW in-fiction only characters getting the Generations treatment at higher scales is slim to none.

Ah now I see them, both megatronus and prima. Too bad, they look cool. Personally I don't think leader scale works for them, but anything is better than nothing.

Kurona wrote:Which is strange; since TR just gave us Nautica, Quickswitch, Sky Shadow and Metalhawk.

Or maybe the design team thinks that one 1988 six-changer who was never in anything ever is more popular than a prominent villain in their multi-universal mythology, a recent cartoon and a live-action movie that made them a heckton of money. Seems rational to me.

I'm not complaining about the characters we are getting. I have been quite happy with the inclusion of the female autobots in the toys and the current series (RiD and IDW), especially since it helps my daughter maintain interest in transformers. Oddly though, her favorite figure is Gnaw. We have put together a decent sized Gnaw army (the Gnawrmy as we say).

The thing I am a bit shocked by is that there were a ton of repaint/retool possibilities in TR that would have made sense, and hasbro chose not to overload us this time.

noctorro wrote:

DMSL wrote:Dinobots combined mode doesn't look good, but that's not a big deal for me as they will never be in that form once on display. I do still think deluxe class is too small for them. They should bump them all up one class, so that would make Grimlock a leader and the rest voyagers. In my opinion that would make more sense and they will look better next to the other figures.

Eh, they can't scale everything up bro.
I was very surprised we even got Combiner Wars with deluxe limbs.

It looks like combiner wars devastator prototype figure without mixmaster looking arm limbs and long haul bot mode there identical hard to say having devastator with all figures leader class that will be master piece combiner figure

mordhelm wrote:
A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

Or it can be a "sh*t ! who let this design for next year in the slide ? let's pretend we abandonned it".

Geez, all these reveals have been amazing.
I want all the Dinobots but can't afford them all.
Looks like I'll just be sticking to Jazz, the Pretenders, Slash (sooo adorable!! ♥), and possibly Starscream.
As much as I'd like to actually complete a combiner this time around, I'm still as broke as ever and the only way that'll happen is if a boxset goes on discount at Ross or whatever.

ExciKaiser wrote:

mordhelm wrote:
A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

Or it can be a "sh*t ! who let this design for next year in the slide ? let's pretend we abandonned it".

No.
Don't give me that hope.

mordhelm wrote:

Kurona wrote:Which is strange; since TR just gave us Nautica, Quickswitch, Sky Shadow and Metalhawk.

Or maybe the design team thinks that one 1988 six-changer who was never in anything ever is more popular than a prominent villain in their multi-universal mythology, a recent cartoon and a live-action movie that made them a heckton of money. Seems rational to me.

I'm not complaining about the characters we are getting. I have been quite happy with the inclusion of the female autobots in the toys and the current series (RiD and IDW), especially since it helps my daughter maintain interest in transformers. Oddly though, her favorite figure is Gnaw. We have put together a decent sized Gnaw army (the Gnawrmy as we say).

The thing I am a bit shocked by is that there were a ton of repaint/retool possibilities in TR that would have made sense, and hasbro chose not to overload us this time.

That ~$1600 theory makes more and more sense.

I'll probably get all of these new combiners no doubt. Still, it looks like they haven't done much to make Volcanicus look good from the BACK. Like Menasor and others, he suffers from the fact that his codpiece doesn't wrap around to cover his butt properly. And it looks like some of the deluxe parts don't mesh well with the voyager core....

Courtesy of our friends at Hasbro, we now have official images of some upcoming Transformers Power of the Primes toys. These figures were all officially revealed during this past weekend's HASCON convention in Providence, RI. Included below are summaries and images of the following characters: Slash, Sludge, Swoop, Slug, Snarl, Grimlock, Optimus Prime and Orion Pax. You can view full galleries of these figures in our HASCON 2017 galleries as well as a video on our YouTube channel.

TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES MICRONUS PRIME MASTER
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/Available Fall 2017)
The TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES MICRONUS PRIME MASTER figure is a 1.5-inch-scale figure that hides inside the included CLOUDBURST decoy armor (aka Pretender). The Prime Master robot can convert into spark mode and attach to a Power of the Primes Deluxe, Voyager, or Leader Class figure (Not included. each sold separately). The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the legendary bots who shaped the universe: the Primes. The MICRONUS Prime Master gives other bots the ability to link and share powers. How will the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use this power-link ability? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 001


Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 002


Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 003


Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 004


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUDGE
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
The TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUDGE is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SLUDGE wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the mighty DINOBOT warrior wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Dinobot Deluxe Sludge 001


Dinobot Deluxe Sludge 002


Dinobot Deluxe Sludge 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUG
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
Watch out for the horns on this TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUG figure. This is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SLUG wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the fire-breathing warrior DINOBOT SLUG wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Dinobot Deluxe Slug 001


Dinobot Deluxe Slug 002


Dinobot Deluxe Slug 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SNARL
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
There’s no need to snarl at the new TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SNARL figure. This is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. Each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SNARL wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the surly DINOBOT SNARL wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Dinobot Deluxe Snarl 001


Dinobot Deluxe Snarl 002


Dinobot Deluxe Snarl 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SWOOP
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
Fans can soar through the air with Hasbro’s new TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SWOOP figure. This is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SWOOP wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the fearsome bombardier DINOBOT SWOOP wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Dinobot Deluxe Swoop 001


Dinobot Deluxe Swoop 002


Dinobot Deluxe Swoop 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEGENDS CLASS DINOBOT SLASH
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $9.99/Available Fall 2017)
The fearsome SLASH is back with the TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEGENDS CLASS DINOBOT SLASH figure. This is a 3.75-inch-scale figure. When this LEGENDS CLASS DINOBOT SLASH figure is in raptor mode, Prime Master (Not included. Each sold separately) figures can ride on the figure's back. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the legendary bots who shaped the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the elite DINOBOT tracker wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Dinobot Legends Slash 001


Dinobot Legends Slash 002


Dinobot Legends Slash 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES VOYAGER CLASS GRIMLOCK
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/Available Fall 2017)
The leader of the DINOBOTS returns with Hasbro’s new TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES VOYAGER CLASS GRIMLOCK figure. This is a 7-inch-scale figure that comes with 2 Prime Armor accessories. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into one of the accessories, attach it to the figure, and imagine GRIMLOCK wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the godlike powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the mighty DINOBOT leader GRIMLOCK wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Dinobot Voyager Grimlock 001


Dinobot Voyager Grimlock 002


Dinobot Voyager Grimlock 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEADER EVOLUTION OPTIMUS PRIME
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/Available Spring 2018)
AUTOBOTS unite around Hasbro’s TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEADER EVOLUTION OPTIMUS PRIME figure. This 9-inch-scale figure comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory and converting Evolution Armor. Change the trailer into the Evolution Armor to evolve this figure from ORION PAX OPTIMUS PRIME. With the Prime Masters (Not included. Each sold separately), imagine AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS can wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.


Leader Class Optimus Prime 001


Leader Class Optimus Prime 002


Leader Class Optimus Prime 003


Leader Class Optimus Prime 004


Leader Class Optimus Prime Orion Pax 001


Leader Class Optimus Prime Orion Pax 002


Leader Class Optimus Prime Orion Pax 003

LE0KING wrote:

ExciKaiser wrote:

mordhelm wrote:
A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

Or it can be a "sh*t ! who let this design for next year in the slide ? let's pretend we abandonned it".

No.
Don't give me that hope.

No worries there. No chance a leader Megatronus comes out in PotP since all the primes are itty-bitties, and next year is all PotP.

They've alternated blue and red chest Swoop, what, five times now? And for some reason, Grimlock's teeny toes bothers me more than it should.

the_neptrix wrote:They've alternated blue and red chest Swoop, what, five times now? And for some reason, Grimlock's teeny toes bothers me more than it should.

We'll have to wait and see which gets released, one or both with the other as a running change. I will say that the blue will stick out in combined mode.

And I see Sludge and Slug share upper legs and hips as well. It's official: under CW rules, they're pretools

Fun PotP will carry the "Collector prices" of the Premier Edition toys

Graviton wrote:Fun PotP will carry the "Collector prices" of the Premier Edition toys

Just for Voyager and up.

Only for Voyager. The Leaders are the same price as before; I'm pretty sure in TLK they were something ridiculous like 60.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Graviton wrote:Fun PotP will carry the "Collector prices" of the Premier Edition toys

Just for Voyager and up.

There is that, but I think voyager and up figures are some of the best in the line.

Kurona wrote:Only for Voyager. The Leaders are the same price as before; I'm pretty sure in TLK they were something ridiculous like 60.

Yikes! At my location the Leaders haven't even shown up yet so I haven't really seen the price

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I see Sludge and Slug share upper legs and hips as well. It's official: under CW rules, they're pretools

Yep, as do they share upper arms, lower legs (now that's a significantly large part!) and probably some other parts as well. What I appreciate though is that their transformation scheme is different between the two; it's not just a reshell (preshell?) of a pre-existing transformation skeleton, there are obviously a few twists and turns that are different between the two - notably, their torsos face opposite directions in their dino modes. If CW started the trend of pre-planned mold uses, and TR got the hang of shared parts, it looks like PoTP is heading toward a full-blown mastery of creative retooling, reshelling and everything else in the general vicinity!

i bet they somehow turn this pax optimus into a ultra magnus.

I'm all about the masterpiece, but I may have to reassess my collection, Damn that leader class Prime! Orion Pax prime! You tear at my soul and strain my resolve to constrain my spending...you tear at my SOUL!!!...Power of the Primes is killing me. Now I want to see the TAKARA versions..really bad!!

griftimus prime wrote:i bet they somehow turn this pax optimus into a ultra magnus.

I sure hope so! Of course, given that I'm approximately as excited about the prospect of this as I was about Nightbeat in TR (read:VERY), I'm also preparing myself to admit defeat if they decide a significant reshell wouldn't be worth the work. The pain of losing something that was never going to exist in the first place... no person should know that pain

Better yet... Nemesis Prime or Shattered Universe repaint, with new molded weapons! Imagine that, a Nemesis Pax!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

the_neptrix wrote:They've alternated blue and red chest Swoop, what, five times now? And for some reason, Grimlock's teeny toes bothers me more than it should.

We'll have to wait and see which gets released, one or both with the other as a running change. I will say that the blue will stick out in combined mode.

John Warden confirmed that his chest is blue in the toy line.

Graviton wrote:Fun PotP will carry the "Collector prices" of the Premier Edition toys

Yup, as that previous news alluded to. That sucks hard.

Kurona wrote:Only for Voyager. The Leaders are the same price as before; I'm pretty sure in TLK they were something ridiculous like 60.

This is only about US MSRP. The MSRP on the previous leaders in the Generations line, as you can see in the link below, is $45

https://www.hasbro.com/en-us/product/tr ... 5E03090E90

So this makes it a $5 increase.

skywarp-2 wrote:Better yet... Nemesis Prime or Shattered Universe repaint, with new molded weapons! Imagine that, a Nemesis Pax!

Ooh, that would be nice now you mention it I mean, we've already got Rodimus Unicronus or whatever in the pipeline for PoTP; whether that makes a similar kind of SG/Nemesis deco for Prime more or less likely is up for debate.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

the_neptrix wrote:They've alternated blue and red chest Swoop, what, five times now? And for some reason, Grimlock's teeny toes bothers me more than it should.

We'll have to wait and see which gets released, one or both with the other as a running change. I will say that the blue will stick out in combined mode.

John Warden confirmed that the blue chested Swoop is the correct one. At the Friday panel, they withheld showing Swoop's stock render for reasons that weren't disclosed at the panel, and encouraged people to go see his toy in the display after the panel. That the stock render had a red chest suggests that they didn't want to give people the wrong impression about the toy since the render had the "wrong" chest color, and also suggests that the decision to go with a blue chest for Swoop was one made too late in the game for the stock render to be changed before HasCon.

Anyone else hoping to see figures like Thunderwing, Crossblades, etc done in this Leader Class style? I'd also be game for an Armada Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, but definitely open to some out of the box ideas as well before this concept expires.

Seibertron wrote:Anyone else hoping to see figures like Thunderwing, Crossblades, etc done in this Leader Class style? I'd also be game for an Armada Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, but definitely open to some out of the box ideas as well before this concept expires.

All that would be cool, but I'm not expecting it.

How about Leader Class Elita One?

Seibertron wrote:How about Leader Class Elita One?

Another cool idea.

Though, that-which-we-weren't-supposed-to-have-seen-before showed her to be a reuse of the Voyager Starscream mold.