Official Product Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve, LG09 Brainstorm

Hasbro wins this round in terms of fiction-accuracy.

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro wins this round in terms of fiction-accuracy.

True, but what sets this apart is the replacement of Flanker aka Sky High with Phaser.

daww, that headmaster's adorable; looks like he wants to be somebody's friend.

Loving that deco on Brainstorm. I'm just getting into MTMTE, which is my first introduction to him in fiction, but the G1-style toy deco really wins out for me. And being in New Zealand means I'd have to import the Hasbro one anyway, so paying a little extra isn't a big deal for me.

I definitely prefer the Hasbro Tailgate, though.

Also I think that when the headmaster's plugged in, it pushes down a little panel in the cockpit that shows the headmaster techspecs readout sticker; which to be fair is a little simplistic compared to the tumbler system in the G1 toys. But hey, IDW brainstorm, that alone makes it worthwile for me

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Also I think that when the headmaster's plugged in, it pushes down a little panel in the cockpit that shows the headmaster techspecs readout sticker; which to be fair is a little simplistic compared to the tumbler system in the G1 toys. But hey, IDW brainstorm, that alone makes it worthwile for me

It is actually similar to the system used for the smaller Headmasters: Hosehead, Nightbeat, Siren, Fangry, Horri-Bull and Squeezeplay: they all used a single tumbler due to size limitations.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Also I think that when the headmaster's plugged in, it pushes down a little panel in the cockpit that shows the headmaster techspecs readout sticker; which to be fair is a little simplistic compared to the tumbler system in the G1 toys. But hey, IDW brainstorm, that alone makes it worthwile for me

It is actually similar to the system used for the smaller Headmasters: Hosehead, Nightbeat, Siren, Fangry, Horri-Bull and Squeezeplay: they all used a single tumbler due to size limitations.

It looks like there's just a spring and a clip on the techspec panel

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Also I think that when the headmaster's plugged in, it pushes down a little panel in the cockpit that shows the headmaster techspecs readout sticker; which to be fair is a little simplistic compared to the tumbler system in the G1 toys. But hey, IDW brainstorm, that alone makes it worthwile for me

It is actually similar to the system used for the smaller Headmasters: Hosehead, Nightbeat, Siren, Fangry, Horri-Bull and Squeezeplay: they all used a single tumbler due to size limitations.

It looks like there's just a spring and a clip on the techspec panel

Same principle, no? One single panel or tumbler for all 3 specs.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Also I think that when the headmaster's plugged in, it pushes down a little panel in the cockpit that shows the headmaster techspecs readout sticker; which to be fair is a little simplistic compared to the tumbler system in the G1 toys. But hey, IDW brainstorm, that alone makes it worthwile for me

It is actually similar to the system used for the smaller Headmasters: Hosehead, Nightbeat, Siren, Fangry, Horri-Bull and Squeezeplay: they all used a single tumbler due to size limitations.

It looks like there's just a spring and a clip on the techspec panel

Same principle, no? One single panel or tumbler for all 3 specs.

No i'm not denying that, I was just commenting it's a springy panel. until now I thought the tech specs were the details in the cockpit, like in place of the controls, not a panel that goes over it when the headmaster's plugged in .

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

daww, that headmaster's adorable; looks like he wants to be somebody's friend.

He looks like he wants a hug. My hype levels for Brainstorm just increased even more!

What was cool about the classic G1 Headmaster system is that each headmasters were interchangable between different robots. Depending of the head the robot was wearing, it's stats changed accordingly. This way, the true powere were only in the heads, the headless body being just a brainless vegetable with zero in every stats.

Still, that new and simpler system on Brainstorm is a nice hommage without creating a costly gimmick.

I like the Targetmaster with Takara Swerve better, it actually looks kinda like his My First Blaster from MTMTE. Looks like Tailgate is more G1 toy coloured as the Hasbro one is IDW comic colours.

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Comic. Accurate. Windblade!!!!

Show. Accurate. Arcee!!!!

And Chromia.

Hisashi Yuki just updated his twitter with some fun new images teasing the new Takara Legends figures that are due to be released soon. These images all features Rattrap in interesting situations with Optimus Primal, Roadbuster, Sky-Byte, Jetfire, and Arcee? We don't get to see much of Arcee but looks like there will be a darker shade of pink? All of these figures will feature different paint appicaltions from their Hasbro counterparts. Let us know what you think in the Seibertron.com Fourms here. We've also mirrored the images below for your viewing pleasures and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

mooncake623 wrote:

Guess Rattrap's a little hesitant to approach his Great Aunt Arcee.

Arcee is his great aunt
The Takara Jetfire looks sharp and won't be a crumbling mess in 20 years. I'd prefer no chrome and more paint apps I think

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Arcee is his great aunt
The Takara Jetfire looks sharp and won't be a crumbling mess in 20 years. I'd prefer no chrome and more paint apps I think

I know! I took one look at the Hasbro one at the store then went home and pre-ordered the Takara one. NOT going to deal with another BM Jetstorm fiasco. I can wait til December for it to arrive.

Slightly off topic, why do i have the weird feeling that if Cosmos is released in the Legends line, in might be cheaper than the aftermarket prices for the generations figure.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Slightly off topic, why do i have the weird feeling that if Cosmos is released in the Legends line, in might be cheaper than the aftermarket prices for the generations figure.

What is the aftermarket price for Generations Cosmos?

Is it just me or does Sky-Byte look more like an orca with that paint job?

mooncake623 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Slightly off topic, why do i have the weird feeling that if Cosmos is released in the Legends line, in might be cheaper than the aftermarket prices for the generations figure.

What is the aftermarket price for Generations Cosmos?

25 to 30 on ebay, it was about 50 on amazon last time I looked.

Cobalt Prime wrote:

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Arcee is his great aunt
The Takara Jetfire looks sharp and won't be a crumbling mess in 20 years. I'd prefer no chrome and more paint apps I think

I know! I took one look at the Hasbro one at the store then went home and pre-ordered the Takara one. NOT going to deal with another BM Jetstorm fiasco. I can wait til December for it to arrive.

The chrome can be removed from Hasbro Jetfire. There's red plastic underneath.

I dropped both Chromia and Arcee in favour of these two. Arcee looks much better with the soft grey on black instead of the hard black/white contrast. I like Chromia's translucent blue plastic instead of Hasbro's clear plastic.

I don't really have much of an attachment to Windblade, so I don't feel the need to spend more money on her.

There's not many Takara paint jobs i think are worthy of the extra coin , but they nailed Arcee with this one .

That black neck piece on the hasbro version looks ugly .

That shot with Jetfire reminds me of that episode of BW where Rattrap and Una are rafting down the river on Depth Charges back. Almost legitimizes that digibash of Jetfire into Depth Charge that I saw.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobalt Prime wrote:

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Arcee is his great aunt
The Takara Jetfire looks sharp and won't be a crumbling mess in 20 years. I'd prefer no chrome and more paint apps I think

I know! I took one look at the Hasbro one at the store then went home and pre-ordered the Takara one. NOT going to deal with another BM Jetstorm fiasco. I can wait til December for it to arrive.

The chrome can be removed from Hasbro Jetfire. There's red plastic underneath.

My point is that it probably will be removed eventually, time will take care of that On the plus side I do appreciate that they made it red plastic underneath. So if the chrome does fail it won't be white or grey underneath. That Legends Arcee looks great

Well, is there any concern that the chrome will disintegrate like gold plastic? With the red plastic underneath, that should alleviate any of those concerns, right?

I do like how looking at Takara Jetfire immediately made me nostalgic for the G1 Jetfire toy.

that paint job on skybyte looks F'ing EPIC. theres no way ill be passing that up.

and takara nailed arcee.
(teehee)

Preordered arcee and chromia. Might cancel my hasbro preorder and grab them in the stores just for fun.

Agamemnon wrote:Well, is there any concern that the chrome will disintegrate like gold plastic? With the red plastic underneath, that should alleviate any of those concerns, right?

I do like how looking at Takara Jetfire immediately made me nostalgic for the G1 Jetfire toy.

Chrome flaking and Gold Plastic Syndrome are two entirely different things.

Metro Prime wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Well, is there any concern that the chrome will disintegrate like gold plastic? With the red plastic underneath, that should alleviate any of those concerns, right?

I do like how looking at Takara Jetfire immediately made me nostalgic for the G1 Jetfire toy.

Chrome flaking and Gold Plastic Syndrome are two entirely different things.

Right. That's what I was asking. Were people afraid that the chrome was the entire mold, or just the flaking. Sorry if I wasn't clear in that.

Agamemnon wrote:

Metro Prime wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Well, is there any concern that the chrome will disintegrate like gold plastic? With the red plastic underneath, that should alleviate any of those concerns, right?

I do like how looking at Takara Jetfire immediately made me nostalgic for the G1 Jetfire toy.

Chrome flaking and Gold Plastic Syndrome are two entirely different things.

Right. That's what I was asking. Were people afraid that the chrome was the entire mold, or just the flaking. Sorry if I wasn't clear in that.

Just the flaking. Don't get me wrong, structure-wise the plastic is fine, but the mere sight of chrome cracking and flaking... Besides, chrome has to be in a location that makes sense, not in random places like most of the Henkei line.

Even though I have Delicate Warrior, I'll buy the Takara Arcee. For this will be the REAL Arcee. That is, until a MP come out.

Sabrblade wrote:Comic. Accurate. Windblade!!!!

Show. Accurate. Arcee!!!!

And Chromia.

Fist pump!

The expression on Rattrap's face looking at Primal, and riding Sky-Byte/Gelshark, just cracks me up!

For those (like me) yet to get a new-mold Rattrap, what are the differences shaping up to be between Generations and Legends?

RotorstormNZ wrote:For those (like me) yet to get a new-mold Rattrap, what are the differences shaping up to be between Generations and Legends?

not a whole lot.

shajaki wrote:

RotorstormNZ wrote:For those (like me) yet to get a new-mold Rattrap, what are the differences shaping up to be between Generations and Legends?

not a whole lot.

Takara's almost looks like it has less paint than Hasbro's.

Earlier this week, we reported on some in hand images of the upcoming Takara Tomy Transformers Legends (Generations) Rattrap, along with several other figures, including a teaser of their Arcee. You can read that full article and see those pictures, here.

Hisashi Yuki isn't quite done extolling the virtues of Rattrap, it seems, as he's posted more pictures of the upcoming figure and his Legends buddies. We've mirrored those images below:









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hey look, it's leader jetfire with the few extra paint apps that hasbro couldn't have been bothered to put on their version.. why i support and buy any of their figures is beyond me. it's stuff like this that makes me wish i lived in Japan.

I really love that Takara went out of their way to make Arcee G1-accurate. Suprisingly though, I like Hasbro's more. I think the black details just add a little needed contrast or something that the G1 colors lack. Same goes for Chromia, Hasbro has those red details and the big canopy, whereas Takara painted the canopy to appear smaller. So I'm definitely keeping my Hasbro preorders for those two.

Windblade looks considerably different and may actually have a way better face, but I've already paid for the Hasbro version, so... yeah. Too late, probably.

I also just noticed Brainstorm's headmaster can turn his head! WHOA. Is that a first for officially-released -Master figures?

Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

Siger wrote:Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

It only depend on you. See the pictures, compare, and decide.

Siger wrote:Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I always hear this. extra apps not worth the extra price. If you add extra toppings to your hoagie, don't you expect to pay extra? Same with the Tomy Japan releases. That and extra packaging and of course, it is more expensive in Japan.

TimothyR wrote:hey look, it's leader jetfire with the few extra paint apps that hasbro couldn't have been bothered to put on their version.. why i support and buy any of their figures is beyond me. it's stuff like this that makes me wish i lived in Japan.

Go ahead. Move to Japan and enjoy your liquidity trap.

Siger wrote:Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I think it's better without the extra paint that Takara offers, because it looks more cartoon-accurate, if you're into that.

The only difference as far as I can tell, aside from the weapons and white outline around the symbol, is that the Takara version has red cuffs on its boots; a longer red stripe on the chest and some black in the knees.

Personally, I would have omitted the red cuffs on his sleeves, too.

I really love how the weapons on the Takara one are colored. However, I'm hesitant to customise them. I'd like to keep the chrome and paint the cannon parts black. Can I just paint over the chrome, or should I remove it first? If I must remove the chrome before painting, how to manage to remove it without having to soak the entire part in the soap? I don't want to remove ALL the chrome. I just want to remove the chrome on the tiny gun part and repainting it black.

fenrir72 wrote:

Siger wrote:Does anyone think Takara Jetfire is worth the extra $20?

I always hear this. extra apps not worth the extra price. If you add extra toppings to your hoagie, don't you expect to pay extra? Same with the Tomy Japan releases. That and extra packaging and of course, it is more expensive in Japan.

unfair comparison. it all depends on what kind of collector you are. me, ill own whichever one superior. even small details go a long way to me, and i dont mind paying the extra costs.

end of the day, is it worth it to you?

shajaki wrote:end of the day, is it worth it to you?

Exactly.
A collector must collect what HE like. Not what other people like.