Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC
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After the cool reveal of the Wave 1 Transformers War for Cybertron Earthrise figures earlier today, we have some brand new stock images to show you of all the revealed figures!
The Battlemaster class includes Soundbarrier, a new character who transforms into a shield. They will be packaged with a rerelease of the Siege Battlemaster Smashdown.
The Micromaster classes include the Hot Rod Patrol and the Military Patrol, consisting of Daddy-O, Trip-Up, Bombshock, and Growl, respectively.
The deluxe assortment consists of Hoist, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack, and Ironworks. The former 3 are based on their original cartoon appearances while the 4th is a new robot based on the Micromaster Ironworks base.
The voyagers consist of new mold Earth mode Starscream and Grapple, who show some similarities to the Classics seeker mold and the Masterpiece Grapple figures.
And the Leader consists of Optimus Prime complete with his trailer that functions as a repair bay.
Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
The Battlemaster class includes Soundbarrier, a new character who transforms into a shield. They will be packaged with a rerelease of the Siege Battlemaster Smashdown.
The Micromaster classes include the Hot Rod Patrol and the Military Patrol, consisting of Daddy-O, Trip-Up, Bombshock, and Growl, respectively.
The deluxe assortment consists of Hoist, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack, and Ironworks. The former 3 are based on their original cartoon appearances while the 4th is a new robot based on the Micromaster Ironworks base.
The voyagers consist of new mold Earth mode Starscream and Grapple, who show some similarities to the Classics seeker mold and the Masterpiece Grapple figures.
And the Leader consists of Optimus Prime complete with his trailer that functions as a repair bay.
Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Credit(s): New York Comic Con
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Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040574)
Posted by o.supreme on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:00pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:00pm CDT
Now that I've had a few hours to absorb whats going on, I have several thoughts. I had speculated a while ago about Hasbro re-releasing Smashdown. Glad they are doing it for all those who didn't get one he first time. Also the re-release of older figures serves twofold. So that fans get a second chance to pick up figures maybe they passed on the first time, and gives Hasbro *Breathing Room* I guess to stretch out their releases. They don't always have to have two leaders at the start now etc... We've seen it within the same line, its just been a really long time since we've seen them cross lines, but its not unprecedented. Tidal Wave and Overload got re releases in Energon from Armada, but they also got new paint jobs. I wonder if any changes will be made to Astrotrain or Smashdown besides packaging?
Not thrilled at Cliffjumper being a deluxe, but oh well. I know fans have waited long enough, I wouldn't have gotten it anyone. he's not for me, he's for others
Also it seems Omega Supreme will serve as the Bridge (both literally and figuratively) between older and newer Base/Station figures. I haven't purchased any leaders in the last two lines, but I may start again, since the BM's (which I already get) will have connectors, and the Leaders will as well. Kind of glad the deluxes don't, (other than weaponizes) that would be tough.
Oddly enough, I didn't get any of the Optimus' toys from PotP or Siege, so getting one in ER, that happens to fit my collecting aesthetic, and hearkens back to the original is kind of cool.
Not thrilled at Cliffjumper being a deluxe, but oh well. I know fans have waited long enough, I wouldn't have gotten it anyone. he's not for me, he's for others
Also it seems Omega Supreme will serve as the Bridge (both literally and figuratively) between older and newer Base/Station figures. I haven't purchased any leaders in the last two lines, but I may start again, since the BM's (which I already get) will have connectors, and the Leaders will as well. Kind of glad the deluxes don't, (other than weaponizes) that would be tough.
Oddly enough, I didn't get any of the Optimus' toys from PotP or Siege, so getting one in ER, that happens to fit my collecting aesthetic, and hearkens back to the original is kind of cool.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040575)
Posted by ebonyleopard on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:00pm CDT
Posted by ebonyleopard on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:00pm CDT
Is it me or does Cliffjumper sorta look like that 3P MP scaled Toro figure?
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040578)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:15pm CDT
It's exactly what I thought when i saw him. and that thing was crap from what I heard
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:15pm CDT
Ebonyleopard wrote:Is it me or does Cliffjumper sorta look like that 3P MP scaled Toro figure?
It's exactly what I thought when i saw him. and that thing was crap from what I heard
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Posted by ebonyleopard on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:20pm CDT
Posted by ebonyleopard on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:20pm CDT
With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that. Not like someone isn’t going to just make an upgrade kit for them anyway. We already have the perfect Roller, the targetmaster one that came with the legends class TT Prime.
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Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:43pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:43pm CDT
I’m not totally sold on Hoist, but I do want to be able to display him with my Constructicons for some The Master Builders recreations. On that note, Grapple is very nice. I was never much a fan of the older CHUG figure.
That Starscream is pretty sharp, I have some hardcore regrets of getting the SIEGE figure now.
No sure about ol’ CJ, although I do like that he’ll hopefully be unique from Bumblebee.
I’ll be sticking with my Generations Wheeljack though. This isn’t different enough for me to double-dip.
I’m definitely intrigued by Ironworks or whatever his name is. New blood oil is always good.
That Starscream is pretty sharp, I have some hardcore regrets of getting the SIEGE figure now.
No sure about ol’ CJ, although I do like that he’ll hopefully be unique from Bumblebee.
I’ll be sticking with my Generations Wheeljack though. This isn’t different enough for me to double-dip.
I’m definitely intrigued by Ironworks or whatever his name is. New blood oil is always good.
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Posted by sol magnus on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:47pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:47pm CDT
Kinda loving all these guys. I do find it somewhat weird that this is a three year storyline. Is part 3 going to be "back to Cybertron" since this is the War For Cybertron series?
Anyway, the hits keep coming. I guess I gotta buy two Optimus Primes, because that one is perfect for my son. I do like the Siege Laser Rifle (Ion Blaster my ###) better, but I guess I can live with it.
Don't know where I stand on Starscream, but we'll see what develops.
Anyway, the hits keep coming. I guess I gotta buy two Optimus Primes, because that one is perfect for my son. I do like the Siege Laser Rifle (Ion Blaster my ###) better, but I guess I can live with it.
Don't know where I stand on Starscream, but we'll see what develops.
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Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:48pm CDT
What was the explanation? I missed that.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 3rd, 2019 @ 7:48pm CDT
Ebonyleopard wrote:With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that.
What was the explanation? I missed that.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:05pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:05pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Ebonyleopard wrote:With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that.
What was the explanation? I missed that.
Nemesis Primal wrote:someone did ask Warden about the color changes on Prime. His response was that they were having issues with the molding where parts that were not supposed to be blue were ending up getting molded in blue, and to fix it they had to trade off the blue hands and repair drone.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:05pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:05pm CDT
Not gonna lie, really excited by the prospects of a selects artfire, those zany colors just do it for me over inferno by a wide margin
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Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:34pm CDT
I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.
How is that lame, sounds pretty awesome to me. The MP is an excellent toy and now I have something like that for a smaller scale.
Also sounds good, especially since I found the MP rather simple in every other aspect outside the ladder magic. So it will feel better at this lower scale.
Sounds less good now, but I think thats forgiveable.
I think everyone has issues with the colours, no argument there but I think he's even worse than a shrunk down MP-10. Did you see the back of the cab? MP10 at least looks really good in cab mode.
I can totally answer that, it's because of all the whining. The lamenting of the greebling was endless and if I was Warden I would simply think there is no reason to keep doing all the details if no one will appreciate it. No one who liked it was overly vocal, I can only recall people hating that (same with the battle damage).
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:34pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.
I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.
Wheeljack: that right there is the MP shrunk down. kinda really lame.
How is that lame, sounds pretty awesome to me. The MP is an excellent toy and now I have something like that for a smaller scale.
Grapple: also the MP scaled down
Also sounds good, especially since I found the MP rather simple in every other aspect outside the ladder magic. So it will feel better at this lower scale.
without crane magic and with some hollow parts
Sounds less good now, but I think thats forgiveable.
Prime: a not very well colored version of MP-10. Also lame.
I think everyone has issues with the colours, no argument there but I think he's even worse than a shrunk down MP-10. Did you see the back of the cab? MP10 at least looks really good in cab mode.
What the hell were they thinking? We went from wonderful detail to flat boxes once again! NO! How could you regress so badly?
I can totally answer that, it's because of all the whining. The lamenting of the greebling was endless and if I was Warden I would simply think there is no reason to keep doing all the details if no one will appreciate it. No one who liked it was overly vocal, I can only recall people hating that (same with the battle damage).
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Posted by jacob_savloff on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:48pm CDT
Posted by jacob_savloff on October 3rd, 2019 @ 8:48pm CDT
The first images of these guys, especially Cliffjumper, made me weary, but now I'm sold.
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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:11pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:11pm CDT
I just realized Zarak and Cerebros have similar connection parts for head mode. Does that mean that potentially we can swap Fort Max and Scorponok's heads?
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Posted by emlit on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:12pm CDT
Posted by emlit on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:12pm CDT
I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
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Posted by skycutter on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:24pm CDT
A Select mudflap from grapple mold, to go with the new card we just got for him
Posted by skycutter on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:24pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Sinxe this is all mimicking the pattern of Siege reveals (pure GEEWUN pandering+obscure things remade as weaponizers+targetmasters and micromasters, anyone want to take bets on which character from outside of GEEWUN will show up as a retool? Last time we got Galaxy Convoy. My guess is logically it would be a retool of the unseen second Leader mold as something else or a Voyager retool of some kind.
Any ideas?
A Select mudflap from grapple mold, to go with the new card we just got for him
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Posted by Decepticon Stryker on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:56pm CDT
Wrecker Hook from Hoist
Road Rage from the possible Tracks from Wheeljack
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on October 3rd, 2019 @ 9:56pm CDT
skycutter wrote:Skritz wrote:Sinxe this is all mimicking the pattern of Siege reveals (pure GEEWUN pandering+obscure things remade as weaponizers+targetmasters and micromasters, anyone want to take bets on which character from outside of GEEWUN will show up as a retool? Last time we got Galaxy Convoy. My guess is logically it would be a retool of the unseen second Leader mold as something else or a Voyager retool of some kind.
Any ideas?
A Select mudflap from grapple mold, to go with the new card we just got for him
Wrecker Hook from Hoist
Road Rage from the possible Tracks from Wheeljack
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Posted by blackeyedprime on October 3rd, 2019 @ 10:07pm CDT
Weird, one of my faves, probably from having the orig as a child plus it always reminded me of some of the robots in Ulysses 31 which getting toys of were near impossible back then (Shoji Kawamori creator of Macross VFs/jetfire/skids toy did some work on that cartoon too, not sure which designer created diaclone hoist). The Robot mode looks like it will go well with the classics Grapple and 3rd party ironhide as they all have back arm kibble which is partly why I'll skip Earthstrikes grapple.
Edit* also ID toys in UK has preorders up for them.
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 3rd, 2019 @ 10:07pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.
I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.
Weird, one of my faves, probably from having the orig as a child plus it always reminded me of some of the robots in Ulysses 31 which getting toys of were near impossible back then (Shoji Kawamori creator of Macross VFs/jetfire/skids toy did some work on that cartoon too, not sure which designer created diaclone hoist). The Robot mode looks like it will go well with the classics Grapple and 3rd party ironhide as they all have back arm kibble which is partly why I'll skip Earthstrikes grapple.
Edit* also ID toys in UK has preorders up for them.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040613)
Posted by LE0KING on October 3rd, 2019 @ 10:10pm CDT
Posted by LE0KING on October 3rd, 2019 @ 10:10pm CDT
Wow... G1 designs... again... so innovative.
Ironworks and the MMs are the only ones here I have any interest in at all.
Oh and fyi the nycc exclusives are up on pulse.
Ironworks and the MMs are the only ones here I have any interest in at all.
Oh and fyi the nycc exclusives are up on pulse.
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Posted by Cobotron on October 3rd, 2019 @ 10:31pm CDT
Sometimes, things are good because they're so bad. When I was a kid I thought he was the derpiest thing I'd ever seen. But now, I have come to appreciate his derp.
I'm maybe most excited for Hoist out of everything we've seen.
And maybe the shield dude.
Posted by Cobotron on October 3rd, 2019 @ 10:31pm CDT
Indeed. But that's not to say that I don't like him.william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.
I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.
Sometimes, things are good because they're so bad. When I was a kid I thought he was the derpiest thing I'd ever seen. But now, I have come to appreciate his derp.
I'm maybe most excited for Hoist out of everything we've seen.
And maybe the shield dude.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040622)
Posted by Skritz on October 3rd, 2019 @ 11:45pm CDT
I'm gonna catch so much shit from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll.
Posted by Skritz on October 3rd, 2019 @ 11:45pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Is this in response to the bruising the GEEWUN brand team's pride took when Primal won the PotP poll?
I'm gonna catch so much shit from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll.
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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 3rd, 2019 @ 11:54pm CDT
I think it's Needlenose at this point considering he's lost 2 polls in a row
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 3rd, 2019 @ 11:54pm CDT
Skritz wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Is this in response to the bruising the GEEWUN brand team's pride took when Primal won the PotP poll?
I'm gonna catch so much **** from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll.
I think it's Needlenose at this point considering he's lost 2 polls in a row
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Posted by Skritz on October 3rd, 2019 @ 11:58pm CDT
IT WAS HIS TURN!
Posted by Skritz on October 3rd, 2019 @ 11:58pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Skritz wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Is this in response to the bruising the GEEWUN brand team's pride took when Primal won the PotP poll?
I'm gonna catch so much **** from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll.
I think it's Needlenose at this point considering he's lost 2 polls in a row
IT WAS HIS TURN!
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Posted by Burn on October 4th, 2019 @ 12:45am CDT
Posted by Burn on October 4th, 2019 @ 12:45am CDT
It's Stalkers turn. You Americans need to embrace his awesomeness even though he wasn't released there.
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Posted by frogbat on October 4th, 2019 @ 1:12am CDT
Posted by frogbat on October 4th, 2019 @ 1:12am CDT
The previous siege line had me more excited I must admit. Was hoping for more cyber torn centric modes... Wheeljack especially. Also, the original generations toys was one of my faves and this one doesn’t seem to eclipse him.
Starscream looks like an oversized deluxe figure and am very curious to get a better look at him. Absolutely love the tetra jet version... might get one of the inevitable repaints of this one.
Windcharger.. I mean cliffjumper (the alt mode has me confused) looks good but the bazooka and wheel skids are what’s selling him.
Hoist and grapple were two of my least favourite generations figures, together with their repaints. These hit the spot...
Love the Micromasters base... was one of my favourite play patterns as a kid and was perhaps for me the last hurrah for transformers personally. The pretenders and action masters didn’t quite do it for me...
So what do you transform into? A muscle car.. And you? A crane.. And you? A jet sir!... What about you? A ramp! No no I mean a shield!
Starscream looks like an oversized deluxe figure and am very curious to get a better look at him. Absolutely love the tetra jet version... might get one of the inevitable repaints of this one.
Windcharger.. I mean cliffjumper (the alt mode has me confused) looks good but the bazooka and wheel skids are what’s selling him.
Hoist and grapple were two of my least favourite generations figures, together with their repaints. These hit the spot...
Love the Micromasters base... was one of my favourite play patterns as a kid and was perhaps for me the last hurrah for transformers personally. The pretenders and action masters didn’t quite do it for me...
So what do you transform into? A muscle car.. And you? A crane.. And you? A jet sir!... What about you? A ramp! No no I mean a shield!
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Posted by Flashwave on October 4th, 2019 @ 1:56am CDT
Except no copy of Optimus Prine since that time that I have laid hands on has heen able to hold that Roller, he's too loose and swings like a dousing rod. Not Siege, not the Beast Hunter Voyager, not Combiner Wars, I ha e given up.
Best Roller I still think is Armada Commetor. 6 wheels, large gun, etc. But I do really like the CW Rook mold so if it fits I may revice that just because.
Posted by Flashwave on October 4th, 2019 @ 1:56am CDT
Ebonyleopard wrote:With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that. Not like someone isn’t going to just make an upgrade kit for them anyway. We already have the perfect Roller, the targetmaster one that came with the legends class TT Prime.
Except no copy of Optimus Prine since that time that I have laid hands on has heen able to hold that Roller, he's too loose and swings like a dousing rod. Not Siege, not the Beast Hunter Voyager, not Combiner Wars, I ha e given up.
Best Roller I still think is Armada Commetor. 6 wheels, large gun, etc. But I do really like the CW Rook mold so if it fits I may revice that just because.
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Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 4th, 2019 @ 2:00am CDT
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 4th, 2019 @ 2:00am CDT
Dear god i am loving all of this.
Soundblater looks nice, interesting that they're basically selling a ramp for the new connection system all by itself.
The Micromaster packs continue to look pretty good.
Cliffjumper looks great (and if Runabout and Runamuck will be retools of him, they'll probably look great too).
Wheeljack looks fantastic, and I'm up for any redecos or retools we get from him.
Hoist looks great (one of the G1 designs I've been most interested in seeing update directly, along with Grapple/Inferno, and neither disappoint), expecting Trailbreaker to look great too and hope we get some creative redecos/retools from it in Selects (someone mentioned RID2015 Strongarm, which I'd definitely be up for).
Grapple, as mentioned above, looks wonderful, can't wait to see Inferno and Artfire (and hope we get a redeco as Mudflap to go with Mudflap's inclusion in the card game, I would be super down for that).
Earth Mode Starscream looks generally good but a bit rough around the edges, although that's also what I thought about Siege Starscream when it was initially revealed and now I love it, so hopefully it'll further grow on me as we see more of it and I get it in hand. Can't wait for Thundercracker, Skywarp, the Coneheads, and redecos into other Seekers that have appeared on Earth.
Optimus: yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes, FINALLY an entirely direct update of G1, with trailer included. The grey hands bug me a little, but I can deal with it. Also glad the truck mode is still so close to the Freightliner's lines and curves, even if it's not imitating it directly. The truck mode just feels "right" somehow.
Soundblater looks nice, interesting that they're basically selling a ramp for the new connection system all by itself.
The Micromaster packs continue to look pretty good.
Cliffjumper looks great (and if Runabout and Runamuck will be retools of him, they'll probably look great too).
Wheeljack looks fantastic, and I'm up for any redecos or retools we get from him.
Hoist looks great (one of the G1 designs I've been most interested in seeing update directly, along with Grapple/Inferno, and neither disappoint), expecting Trailbreaker to look great too and hope we get some creative redecos/retools from it in Selects (someone mentioned RID2015 Strongarm, which I'd definitely be up for).
Grapple, as mentioned above, looks wonderful, can't wait to see Inferno and Artfire (and hope we get a redeco as Mudflap to go with Mudflap's inclusion in the card game, I would be super down for that).
Earth Mode Starscream looks generally good but a bit rough around the edges, although that's also what I thought about Siege Starscream when it was initially revealed and now I love it, so hopefully it'll further grow on me as we see more of it and I get it in hand. Can't wait for Thundercracker, Skywarp, the Coneheads, and redecos into other Seekers that have appeared on Earth.
Optimus: yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes, FINALLY an entirely direct update of G1, with trailer included. The grey hands bug me a little, but I can deal with it. Also glad the truck mode is still so close to the Freightliner's lines and curves, even if it's not imitating it directly. The truck mode just feels "right" somehow.
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Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 4th, 2019 @ 2:12am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 4th, 2019 @ 2:12am CDT
...hang on, no one's mentioned this yet: Y'know how in the past multiple board members, me included, have tried to use the TCG card reveals as hints of upcoming characters, and then everyone yells at them that that isn't how it works? Well the new cards from today, with the new Mercenary faction? The promotional blurb/product description for them BLATANTLY STATES that Mercenaries are going to be a thing in the Earthrise line as well, it's even in at least 1 of the 2 articles about them on this very site, and the preorder descriptions from BBTS and TFSource for the Earthrise figures backs that up. I don't know about anyone else, but I think a Deadlock, Lockdown, or Detritus would be a welcome addition to this overall boring G1-again lineup we have so far, and would easily make up for how overall meh the line looks right now.
I know not everyone thinks the line is meh please don't focus on that part of the comment.
I know not everyone thinks the line is meh please don't focus on that part of the comment.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 4th, 2019 @ 2:21am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 4th, 2019 @ 2:21am CDT
I am a bit disappointed with the application of the Wheeljack character. I thought that revisiting the Cybertron days was the perfect opportunity for a toy of Wheeljack from the first episode of MTMTE. Same with Bumblebee. Maybe the engineers just couldn't make it work.
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Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 4th, 2019 @ 3:22am CDT
I think since Detritus in that artwork is clearly (and logically, of course) based on the Siege Hound mold, and Earthrise is focusing mainly on new molds, we'll get him in Selects instead of Earthrise, but yeah, definitely expecting at least a new-mold Deadlock and Lockdown.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 4th, 2019 @ 3:22am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:...hang on, no one's mentioned this yet: Y'know how in the past multiple board members, me included, have tried to use the TCG card reveals as hints of upcoming characters, and then everyone yells at them that that isn't how it works? Well the new cards from today, with the new Mercenary faction? The promotional blurb/product description for them BLATANTLY STATES that Mercenaries are going to be a thing in the Earthrise line as well, it's even in at least 1 of the 2 articles about them on this very site, and the preorder descriptions from BBTS and TFSource for the Earthrise figures backs that up. I don't know about anyone else, but I think a Deadlock, Lockdown, or Detritus would be a welcome addition to this overall boring G1-again lineup we have so far, and would easily make up for how overall meh the line looks right now.
I know not everyone thinks the line is meh please don't focus on that part of the comment.
I think since Detritus in that artwork is clearly (and logically, of course) based on the Siege Hound mold, and Earthrise is focusing mainly on new molds, we'll get him in Selects instead of Earthrise, but yeah, definitely expecting at least a new-mold Deadlock and Lockdown.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040639)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 4th, 2019 @ 4:00am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 4th, 2019 @ 4:00am CDT
Well to be fair, we've already had Nightbird as part of Selects,they could also put Drift in mainline Earth rise and Deadlock in Selects as well (or vice versa)
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Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 4th, 2019 @ 4:21am CDT
Either way, we're getting a new-mold Drift/Deadlock baybeeeeeee
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 4th, 2019 @ 4:21am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well to be fair, we've already had Nightbird as part of Selects,they could also put Drift in mainline Earth rise and Deadlock in Selects as well (or vice versa)
Either way, we're getting a new-mold Drift/Deadlock baybeeeeeee
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040643)
Posted by Cyberpath on October 4th, 2019 @ 5:51am CDT
I also like the character! He's not a red truck or a supermodel like Optimus Prime, or a sports car and athletic-looking like sideswipe.. just a tow truck and a kind of weird looking robot. And maybe that's why he had so much screen time and episodes focused on him -- people like sideswipe and prowl are an easy sell because of their looks, but Hoist perhaps needs to show more personality. (Not that I think his design is ugly!)
Gonna wait for an MP though, I have a feeling one is coming in the not too distant future. They're probably figuring out how to make both mold buddies different enough.
It's cool that EarthRise is releasing both Hoist and Grapple in the same wave though, plus that other crane guy, Ironworks.
Posted by Cyberpath on October 4th, 2019 @ 5:51am CDT
Cobotron wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.
I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.
Indeed. But that's not to say that I don't like him.
Sometimes, things are good because they're so bad. When I was a kid I thought he was the derpiest thing I'd ever seen. But now, I have come to appreciate his derp.
I'm maybe most excited for Hoist out of everything we've seen.
And maybe the shield dude.
I also like the character! He's not a red truck or a supermodel like Optimus Prime, or a sports car and athletic-looking like sideswipe.. just a tow truck and a kind of weird looking robot. And maybe that's why he had so much screen time and episodes focused on him -- people like sideswipe and prowl are an easy sell because of their looks, but Hoist perhaps needs to show more personality. (Not that I think his design is ugly!)
Gonna wait for an MP though, I have a feeling one is coming in the not too distant future. They're probably figuring out how to make both mold buddies different enough.
It's cool that EarthRise is releasing both Hoist and Grapple in the same wave though, plus that other crane guy, Ironworks.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040645)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on October 4th, 2019 @ 7:02am CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on October 4th, 2019 @ 7:02am CDT
.... 
Omg such things of beauty they are!
Omg such things of beauty they are!
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040646)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 4th, 2019 @ 7:04am CDT
I think a lot of collectors who were hoping for Bee, Jazz and Wheeljack to have their MTMTE alt modes were setting themselves up for disappointment right from the start. While they would be a huge draw from collectors for nostalgia purposes, I think many kids would turn their noses at them. They are ridiculously dated, the idea of what would be hi tech and futuristic back in the 80's.
Try looking at those designs from a kids perspective. Bee is what, a frisbee with headlights? Jazz looks more like a shoe. Wheeljack is a hoverbox. I really just don't see much of a draw for kids there. Also don't discount the lack of wheels and how that would effect play. With a car or truck, you can give it a push and let it keep rolling on its own (Well except for the Moonracer mold and those back nipples). You can even line up a bunch of them and send them all into battle at once with a good push. With a hover vehicle, you have to manually move them the whole time. If Hasbro tried to make any of those designs work, I imagine they would have to add wheels just to appeal to the younger audience, which would have royally pissed off connectors wanting their 80's nostalgia.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 4th, 2019 @ 7:04am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I am a bit disappointed with the application of the Wheeljack character. I thought that revisiting the Cybertron days was the perfect opportunity for a toy of Wheeljack from the first episode of MTMTE. Same with Bumblebee. Maybe the engineers just couldn't make it work.
I think a lot of collectors who were hoping for Bee, Jazz and Wheeljack to have their MTMTE alt modes were setting themselves up for disappointment right from the start. While they would be a huge draw from collectors for nostalgia purposes, I think many kids would turn their noses at them. They are ridiculously dated, the idea of what would be hi tech and futuristic back in the 80's.
Try looking at those designs from a kids perspective. Bee is what, a frisbee with headlights? Jazz looks more like a shoe. Wheeljack is a hoverbox. I really just don't see much of a draw for kids there. Also don't discount the lack of wheels and how that would effect play. With a car or truck, you can give it a push and let it keep rolling on its own (Well except for the Moonracer mold and those back nipples). You can even line up a bunch of them and send them all into battle at once with a good push. With a hover vehicle, you have to manually move them the whole time. If Hasbro tried to make any of those designs work, I imagine they would have to add wheels just to appeal to the younger audience, which would have royally pissed off connectors wanting their 80's nostalgia.
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Posted by blackeyedprime on October 4th, 2019 @ 7:59am CDT
They could have used small cthru hidden wheels for hover mode effect much like the kenner star wars Lukes land speeder.
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 4th, 2019 @ 7:59am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I am a bit disappointed with the application of the Wheeljack character. I thought that revisiting the Cybertron days was the perfect opportunity for a toy of Wheeljack from the first episode of MTMTE. Same with Bumblebee. Maybe the engineers just couldn't make it work.
I think a lot of collectors who were hoping for Bee, Jazz and Wheeljack to have their MTMTE alt modes were setting themselves up for disappointment right from the start. While they would be a huge draw from collectors for nostalgia purposes, I think many kids would turn their noses at them. They are ridiculously dated, the idea of what would be hi tech and futuristic back in the 80's.
Try looking at those designs from a kids perspective. Bee is what, a frisbee with headlights? Jazz looks more like a shoe. Wheeljack is a hoverbox. I really just don't see much of a draw for kids there. Also don't discount the lack of wheels and how that would effect play. With a car or truck, you can give it a push and let it keep rolling on its own (Well except for the Moonracer mold and those back nipples). You can even line up a bunch of them and send them all into battle at once with a good push. With a hover vehicle, you have to manually move them the whole time. If Hasbro tried to make any of those designs work, I imagine they would have to add wheels just to appeal to the younger audience, which would have royally pissed off connectors wanting their 80's nostalgia.
They could have used small cthru hidden wheels for hover mode effect much like the kenner star wars Lukes land speeder.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040652)
Posted by skycutter on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:08am CDT
the thing is, bumblbebee had wheel, hidden but still, he had wheels in cybertronian mode
Posted by skycutter on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:08am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I am a bit disappointed with the application of the Wheeljack character. I thought that revisiting the Cybertron days was the perfect opportunity for a toy of Wheeljack from the first episode of MTMTE. Same with Bumblebee. Maybe the engineers just couldn't make it work.
I think a lot of collectors who were hoping for Bee, Jazz and Wheeljack to have their MTMTE alt modes were setting themselves up for disappointment right from the start. While they would be a huge draw from collectors for nostalgia purposes, I think many kids would turn their noses at them. They are ridiculously dated, the idea of what would be hi tech and futuristic back in the 80's.
Try looking at those designs from a kids perspective. Bee is what, a frisbee with headlights? Jazz looks more like a shoe. Wheeljack is a hoverbox. I really just don't see much of a draw for kids there. Also don't discount the lack of wheels and how that would effect play. With a car or truck, you can give it a push and let it keep rolling on its own (Well except for the Moonracer mold and those back nipples). You can even line up a bunch of them and send them all into battle at once with a good push. With a hover vehicle, you have to manually move them the whole time. If Hasbro tried to make any of those designs work, I imagine they would have to add wheels just to appeal to the younger audience, which would have royally pissed off connectors wanting their 80's nostalgia.
the thing is, bumblbebee had wheel, hidden but still, he had wheels in cybertronian mode
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040653)
Posted by ThunderThruster on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:13am CDT
I have the Classics version, but aside from paint scheme and some chrome, same deal really.
"Great minds think on the same lines" - Blaster
Posted by ThunderThruster on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:13am CDT
Burn wrote:I can pass on most of these, Starscream (and the inevitable repaints which will no doubt be exclusives anyway) more so. Happy with the Henkei versions.
Except those Micromasters ... bring on more of those bases!
I have the Classics version, but aside from paint scheme and some chrome, same deal really.
Nemesis Primal wrote:I got so caught up trying to help deliver the news and fix misconceptions people had that I forgot to say what I actually think of all these reveals, which has been a resounding...meh. Wheeljack, Ironworks, and Soundbarrier are the only figures I'm definitely buying, Grapple is a maaaybe, and everything else is a hard pass.
"Great minds think on the same lines" - Blaster
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Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:21am CDT
That's because he is.
It's just because they chose not to squish cliffjumper's alt mode this time. But it's his original G1 alt mode. He turns into a porsche 924, while windcharger turns into a firebird. Two completely different cars.
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:21am CDT
frogbat wrote:Starscream looks like an oversized deluxe figure
That's because he is.
Windcharger.. I mean cliffjumper (the alt mode has me confused)
It's just because they chose not to squish cliffjumper's alt mode this time. But it's his original G1 alt mode. He turns into a porsche 924, while windcharger turns into a firebird. Two completely different cars.
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Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:21am CDT
And Tracks. And probably Runamuck, TBH.
And I think Hoist looks great! In a sense, he looks exactly how he should calling back the cartoon aesthetic. Now, I'm wondering what a MP Hoist would look like.
Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:21am CDT
emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks. And probably Runamuck, TBH.
And I think Hoist looks great! In a sense, he looks exactly how he should calling back the cartoon aesthetic. Now, I'm wondering what a MP Hoist would look like.
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Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:26am CDT
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:26am CDT
sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
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Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:29am CDT
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though. I certainly wouldn't turn it down, but in the end all the bots I mentioned have essentially the same transformation. It makes the most sense.
Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:29am CDT
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though. I certainly wouldn't turn it down, but in the end all the bots I mentioned have essentially the same transformation. It makes the most sense.
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040660)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:35am CDT
Not nearly to the same extent in Siege, though.sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though.
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Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:37am CDT
Not sure how you figure that? The only molds with no retool are Jetfire and Omega Supreme.
Or are you saying it's in overdrive? Because that I would agree with.
Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:37am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not nearly to the same extent in Siege, though.sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though.
Not sure how you figure that? The only molds with no retool are Jetfire and Omega Supreme.
Or are you saying it's in overdrive? Because that I would agree with.
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Posted by Flashwave on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:38am CDT
Forgive me, I have been busy at work for the last day and a half, where does the TCG talk about whats going on in Earth Rise? And are we sure it doesnt mean the Earthrise section of the TCG?
Thing is, when the Twincast interviewed the head of rhe TCG they blatently came out and said they don't have an inside track on what Hasbro is doing. The TCG Ratchet (on an action card) we saw leaked was as much a guess because it was an obvious redeco of an Ironhide and we knew one was coming. Don't forget they did a Neeslnoae on the Siege Tetrajet, and there is no Needlenose in that line.
Do I want a Detritus? Oh heck yea. But unless something has changed since their interview, the card designs are just as much them having fun with ideas, and that came from the head honcho's mouth
Posted by Flashwave on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:38am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:...hang on, no one's mentioned this yet: Y'know how in the past multiple board members, me included, have tried to use the TCG card reveals as hints of upcoming characters, and then everyone yells at them that that isn't how it works? Well the new cards from today, with the new Mercenary faction? The promotional blurb/product description for them BLATANTLY STATES that Mercenaries are going to be a thing in the Earthrise line as well, it's even in at least 1 of the 2 articles about them on this very site, and the preorder descriptions from BBTS and TFSource for the Earthrise figures backs that up. I don't know about anyone else, but I think a Deadlock, Lockdown, or Detritus would be a welcome addition to this overall boring G1-again lineup we have so far, and would easily make up for how overall meh the line looks right now.
I know not everyone thinks the line is meh please don't focus on that part of the comment.
Forgive me, I have been busy at work for the last day and a half, where does the TCG talk about whats going on in Earth Rise? And are we sure it doesnt mean the Earthrise section of the TCG?
Thing is, when the Twincast interviewed the head of rhe TCG they blatently came out and said they don't have an inside track on what Hasbro is doing. The TCG Ratchet (on an action card) we saw leaked was as much a guess because it was an obvious redeco of an Ironhide and we knew one was coming. Don't forget they did a Neeslnoae on the Siege Tetrajet, and there is no Needlenose in that line.
Do I want a Detritus? Oh heck yea. But unless something has changed since their interview, the card designs are just as much them having fun with ideas, and that came from the head honcho's mouth
Re: Official Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Reveals #NYCC2019 #NYCC (2040663)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:43am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:43am CDT
What? The only standard retail Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mold reuses in Siege are Red Alert, Barricade, Crosshairs, Thundercracker, and Galaxy Upgrade Optimus. All the others are unique molds or the original uses of the aforementioned mold reuses.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not nearly to the same extent in Siege, though.sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though.
Not sure how you figure that? The only molds with no retool are Jetfire and Omega Supreme.
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Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:47am CDT
Standard retail is a different metric. By that one, sure okay. But you forgot Prowl/Barricade.
I look at it as a whole, not just the standard releases, but your way works too.
Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:47am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What? The only standard retail Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mold reuses in Siege are Red Alert, Barricade, Crosshairs, Thundercracker, and Galaxy Upgrade Optimus. All the others are unique molds or the original uses of the aforementioned mold reuses.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not nearly to the same extent in Siege, though.sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though.
Not sure how you figure that? The only molds with no retool are Jetfire and Omega Supreme.
Standard retail is a different metric. By that one, sure okay. But you forgot Prowl/Barricade.
I look at it as a whole, not just the standard releases, but your way works too.
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Posted by butterflyboy on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:57am CDT
Posted by butterflyboy on October 4th, 2019 @ 8:57am CDT
I am confused why this new Starscream isn't getting more love. For nearly a decade or more, the Classics mold was "gold standard" for seekers, but I recall many wishing it was a proper Voyager size. Now in 2019, yes the classics mold is showing its age a little, but I have faith that this new one will be properly updated. After the PotP Starscream failed to impress most, it feels like Hasbro is really trying to give us what we're asking for. What am I missing?
Also, does the render incorrectly show Starscream with a total of four null rays in jet mode? I see two on the wings and two that look like they are plugged into the exhaust vents on his chest. Are they just demonstrating that they can be placed in two different places?
Also, does the render incorrectly show Starscream with a total of four null rays in jet mode? I see two on the wings and two that look like they are plugged into the exhaust vents on his chest. Are they just demonstrating that they can be placed in two different places?
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:00am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:00am CDT
No I didn't. I said Barricade.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What? The only standard retail Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mold reuses in Siege are Red Alert, Barricade, Crosshairs, Thundercracker, and Galaxy Upgrade Optimus. All the others are unique molds or the original uses of the aforementioned mold reuses.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not nearly to the same extent in Siege, though.sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though.
Not sure how you figure that? The only molds with no retool are Jetfire and Omega Supreme.
Standard retail is a different metric. By that one, sure okay. But you forgot Prowl/Barricade.
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Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:03am CDT
Indeed you did. My apologies, sir.
Posted by sol magnus on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:03am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No I didn't. I said Barricade.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What? The only standard retail Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader mold reuses in Siege are Red Alert, Barricade, Crosshairs, Thundercracker, and Galaxy Upgrade Optimus. All the others are unique molds or the original uses of the aforementioned mold reuses.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not nearly to the same extent in Siege, though.sol magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:emlit wrote:I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.
And Tracks.
Why does everything need to be a retool? Can,t bots just get their own damn molds. We had decades of crappy Cliffjumper placeholders until we got this one. I wouldnt want the same crap with Sunstreaker and Tracks. We have enough placeholders as is.
William, you already know why.
My assertion is based on how they've "been" doing it, though.
Not sure how you figure that? The only molds with no retool are Jetfire and Omega Supreme.
Standard retail is a different metric. By that one, sure okay. But you forgot Prowl/Barricade.
Indeed you did. My apologies, sir.
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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:12am CDT
I think it's because people went all-in for the Siege Seekers, many of whom were exclusives, and feel burned since what they kinda actually want is just around the corner. I didn't get Screamer, but I did get Soundwave and I think I'd feel annoyed if they came out with one that transformed into a microcassette recorder so soon.
That said I just got the wife to help me get the Rainmaker set for Christmas after the Starscream reveal. The robot modes are the right size, kinda look similar.
I just hope they don't go crazy with Seekers right away like they did in Siege.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:12am CDT
butterflyboy wrote:I am confused why this new Starscream isn't getting more love. For nearly a decade or more, the Classics mold was "gold standard" for seekers, but I recall many wishing it was a proper Voyager size. Now in 2019, yes the classics mold is showing its age a little, but I have faith that this new one will be properly updated. After the PotP Starscream failed to impress most, it feels like Hasbro is really trying to give us what we're asking for. What am I missing?
I think it's because people went all-in for the Siege Seekers, many of whom were exclusives, and feel burned since what they kinda actually want is just around the corner. I didn't get Screamer, but I did get Soundwave and I think I'd feel annoyed if they came out with one that transformed into a microcassette recorder so soon.
That said I just got the wife to help me get the Rainmaker set for Christmas after the Starscream reveal. The robot modes are the right size, kinda look similar.
I just hope they don't go crazy with Seekers right away like they did in Siege.
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Posted by butterflyboy on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by butterflyboy on October 4th, 2019 @ 9:32am CDT
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I think it's because people went all-in for the Siege Seekers, many of whom were exclusives, and feel burned since what they kinda actually want is just around the corner. I didn't get Screamer, but I did get Soundwave and I think I'd feel annoyed if they came out with one that transformed into a microcassette recorder so soon.
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I hear ya. Still...we've had a lot of Starscreams that turn into jets. We've had this one mold that turned into the "tetra-jets" and Hasbro took the opportunity to make sure those of us who collect a lot of seekers (or have a favorite one) got as many as possible. I have them all except Red Wing and Skywarp and I'll gladly get all the new seekers as Earth jets if they become available. They are essentially very separate figures and I don't think there are a lot of us who did not see the Earth modes coming. I certainly expected it and am glad with what they produced. I'd say the same for Soundwave if they produced an Earth version for him.
I think it's because people went all-in for the Siege Seekers, many of whom were exclusives, and feel burned since what they kinda actually want is just around the corner. I didn't get Screamer, but I did get Soundwave and I think I'd feel annoyed if they came out with one that transformed into a microcassette recorder so soon.
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I hear ya. Still...we've had a lot of Starscreams that turn into jets. We've had this one mold that turned into the "tetra-jets" and Hasbro took the opportunity to make sure those of us who collect a lot of seekers (or have a favorite one) got as many as possible. I have them all except Red Wing and Skywarp and I'll gladly get all the new seekers as Earth jets if they become available. They are essentially very separate figures and I don't think there are a lot of us who did not see the Earth modes coming. I certainly expected it and am glad with what they produced. I'd say the same for Soundwave if they produced an Earth version for him.
