Official Images: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Skywarp

Those colors look so nice on that figure. I may have to take the plunge and get all the seekers

Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

I feel like the purple chest is helping break up all the black. and it looks good with the silver

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

I feel like the purple chest is helping break up all the black. and it looks good with the silver

Agreed, but if I'm gonna get this mold, I kinda want Jetfire. Just sayin.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

I feel like the purple chest is helping break up all the black. and it looks good with the silver

Agreed, but if I'm gonna get this mold, I kinda want Jetfire. Just sayin.

I have Jetfire and the mold works so nicely for him and i love it. I also love that they repurposed it into the seekers. it looks very good and I love the IDW design, just wish they were smaller. But now I want all 3 leaders so I have my first seeker lineup. (The IDW design and the Starscream Crown won me over)

It's just, that part of the chest where the fake cockpit is is supposed to be a fake version of his nosecone, which is traditionally black. The silver is what's supposed to break up the black of the torso.

"Me Grimlock want to know why Skywarp's chest is purplish."

Sabrblade wrote:It's just, that part of the chest where the fake cockpit is is supposed to be a fake version of his nosecone, which is traditionally black. The silver is what's supposed to break up the black of the torso.

What if, in this toy's cannon, that chest is not the nosecone?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's just, that part of the chest where the fake cockpit is is supposed to be a fake version of his nosecone, which is traditionally black. The silver is what's supposed to break up the black of the torso.

What if, in this toy's cannon, that chest is not the nosecone?

Or we can think about this realistically and not make a bullshit non cannon explanation (that''s funpub's job); the reason probably has something to do with which parts are on which sprues, the chest sections may be molded with the arms and engines.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Or we can think about this realistically and not make a bullshit non cannon explanation (that''s funpub's job); the reason probably has something to do with which parts are on which sprues, the chest sections may be molded with the arms and engines.

But is it really BS? Because that would mean that his chest is 100% without a doubt his nosecone. And from the looks of the toy, it isnt. No nosecone has never looked like that. And toy-wise, it isnt his nosecone, its just a chest design and his nosecone is up in the back. So all the chest is really doing is homaging the nosecone, not replacing it outright and thus the chest colour needs not duplicate the full colour. What I mean is the toy is already not the traditional Skywarp since his nosecone is not his chest. This is an update for the generations line, and seeing it that way, why cant other aspects be different?

I mean, is the colour of the chest really the only different between this



and this?

Sabrblade wrote:It's just, that part of the chest where the fake cockpit is is supposed to be a fake version of his nosecone, which is traditionally black. The silver is what's supposed to break up the black of the torso.

May be what tradition says, but still looks good to me

Alright, lemme pull up some artwork of this toy's body:



Guido Guidi's Seeker design art.

Sabrblade wrote:Alright, lemme pull up some artwork of this toy's body:



Guido Guidi's Seeker design art.

But these toys arent perfect representations. They dont have the tall air exhausts at the sides of the robot heads. They instead have turbines in he back. Also, the chest is jagged ant not really a tapered nosecone. And lastly, the wings are far bigger than traditional seekrs wings and not smooth nor coloured.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Alright, lemme pull up some artwork of this toy's body:



Guido Guidi's Seeker design art.

But these toys arent perfect representations. They dont have the tall air exhausts at the sides of the robot heads. They instead have turbines in he back. Also, the chest is jagged ant not really a tapered nosecone. And lastly, the wings are far bigger than traditional seekrs wings and not smooth nor coloured.

I don't mind some color changes. Heck, lots of people probably dont even notice the difference. but they are fairly IDW evocative and they look amazing

If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site

Hellscream9999 wrote:If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site

that would have made for a cool excessory

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site

that would have made for a cool excessory

Indeed

Bitching about a changed colour scheme on toys that change. Yeah, makes total sense.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site

that would have made for a cool excessory

Indeed

I like that they added the null rays, but I wish there was a port higher up to place them so they could work better with the arms and wings design though

Burn wrote:Bitching about a changed colour scheme on toys that change. Yeah, makes total sense.

Well, they are tf fans, what else would you expect

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site

that would have made for a cool excessory

Indeed

I like that they added the null rays, but I wish there was a port higher up to place them so they could work better with the arms and wings design though

But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient

Burn wrote:Bitching about a changed colour scheme on toys that change. Yeah, makes total sense.

That was my point, albeit said in a paragraph or two.

Hellscream9999 wrote:But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient

Ya think?

william-james88 wrote:That was my point, albeit said in a paragraph or two.

Well maybe if you'd just laid back and taken it easy, Australian style, you wouldn't have bored the readers to death.
(BLAME CANADA!)

Burn wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient

Ya think?

The epitome of well thought out ideas (to be fair though, it wouldn't have worked very well mounted to his arm )

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Burn wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient

Ya think?

The epitome of well thought out ideas (to be fair though, it wouldn't have worked very well mounted to his arm )

Well now, that is a cannon!

They could have done what the legends did with the seekers so the arms were a bit more posable

I really want Acid Storm and Sunstorm from this mold.

I also want Dreadwind and Hooligan from Jetfire.

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me

Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me

Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me

Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head

Not for me, oh well, there are combiners to get instead

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me

Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head

Not for me, oh well, there are combiners to get instead

Bruticus is coming up soon!

Still kinda excited for the seekers though now that i have warmed and decided to get them. IDW design for the win

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.

It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it.

I doubt that

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me

Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head

Not for me, oh well, there are combiners to get instead

Bruticus is coming up soon!

Still kinda excited for the seekers though now that i have warmed and decided to get them. IDW design for the win

Yeah he is

I think Skywarp looks great, but I also think I'm tapped out enough on CW repaints that I'll hold off and see if it goes on Amazon discount like Thundercracker currently has....

Windsweeper wrote:I really want Acid Storm and Sunstorm from this mold.

I also want Dreadwind and Hooligan from Jetfire.

I wants Thrust, just for VTOL remolding on the wings....

Shockwave7 wrote:I think Skywarp looks great, but I also think I'm tapped out enough on CW repaints that I'll hold off and see if it goes on Amazon discount like Thundercracker currently has....

TC is going back down again in price, so I am going to pick him up and I recommend you do the same. the colors look very nice (probably the best all around).

Shockwave7 wrote:I wants Thrust, just for VTOL remolding on the wings....

YES!!

william-james88 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Or we can think about this realistically and not make a bullshit non cannon explanation (that''s funpub's job); the reason probably has something to do with which parts are on which sprues, the chest sections may be molded with the arms and engines.

But is it really BS? Because that would mean that his chest is 100% without a doubt his nosecone. And from the looks of the toy, it isnt. No nosecone has never looked like that. And toy-wise, it isnt his nosecone, its just a chest design and his nosecone is up in the back. So all the chest is really doing is homaging the nosecone, not replacing it outright and thus the chest colour needs not duplicate the full colour. What I mean is the toy is already not the traditional Skywarp since his nosecone is not his chest. This is an update for the generations line, and seeing it that way, why cant other aspects be different?

I mean, is the colour of the chest really the only different between this



and this?

Thats some serious sugarcoating you did there. Lets be real. Whether the mold is Jetfire or a seeker, thats a fake cockpit/nosecone created on behalf of lazy Hasbro engineering. How hard could it have been to make his chest the actual cockpit instead of a fake ? They pulled it off quite nicely on Armada Starscream.

Oh i am on your side. I was just saying that if they aren't doing it acurate where his nosecone is his chest, then why does it matter if the colour isnt accurate either?

Rated X wrote:Thats some serious sugarcoating you did there. Lets be real. Whether the mold is Jetfire or a seeker, thats a fake cockpit/nosecone created on behalf of lazy Hasbro engineering. How hard could it have been to make his chest the actual cockpit instead of a fake ? They pulled it off quite nicely on Armada Starscream.

First of all, Takara does the engineering. Hasbro gives them the desired designs and the budget and parameters with which to make them happen without breaking the bank (e.g., keeping profit margins high and investors happy). Secondly, the faux cockpit is because this is a retool of the Jetfire mold. It didn't have a faux cockpit, but a secondary smaller cockpit, in its design. That's a result of him being designed with the cartoon model in mind for his robot mode. The cartoon model alt mode, heavily (and notoriously) redesigned from the original toy's alt mode, includes the secondary cockpit on the underside of the fuselage (you can only see it in some rare undercarriage and transformation shots), just like this new toy, though the alt mode more resembles the original toy otherwise. To redesign the transformation scheme for the seekers to instead use the main cockpit for their chest would probably have meant completely redesigning the entire mold altogether, instead of strategically reshelling the mold and maintaining the core engineering and design. It was a cost saving measure, and one that meant the difference between having Leader class Seekers or nothing at all at that price point. Heck, Hasbro might not have even put out Leader class Jetfire had they not been assured future returns with the Seeker retool and repaints.

Beautiful response Wolfman Jake, I loved every word of it! Though part of me feels that Hasbro asked Takara for a jetfire mold first and when seeing what they came up with in engineering, then asked them to use the same mold to make seekers which hasbro had designed to look similar in build. Those holes at the top near the end really tell me that this was jetfire's mold and the seekers were more of an afterthough. Though burn thinks differently and I find that super cool. I look forward to reading his views on that if ever he chooses to make an editorial. Actually, no joke but I believe my favourite generations toy of last year is Leader jetfire, I just love his look. I love Arcee too, but only got her through the legends line which was only released this year.

Anyways, real talk here: I have the opportunity to buy Leader Megs (G1 deco) for 40$. Now I want to know, at that price, is he worth it? It wouldnt be for a shelf or to go with anyone but simply to have in my collection and to try out the mold. Is it a really good toy? Am I missing out by never getting this mold? And am I better off getting the G1 deco at 40$ or waiting for all the armada megs to go on ligquidation at 25-30$ and buying that instead?

Please let me know your thoughts.

Oh Will, I hesitate giving you advice because of what happened with Thunderwing.

But, I'll go with my gut. I really think you would be happier waiting for a deep discount on Armada Megs. I love the G1 version and display him proudly, but he has short comings. Knowing what you like, and how important value is to you, I feel like you would be upset by paying that much. It's like you always say about Jetfire. You got him for $30, and he is a 30 dollar toy. I think the same for either Megatron. I got mine for $38 and I don't think he is worth any more than that.

Alright Will, sit down time:

i got my leader G1 Megs for $38 and he is damn worth it. It is a great, solid, pretty hefty mold. The tank mode is amazing and accurate to real tanks with incredible detail, moving turret and treads and the extra guns to make it beautifully accurate. There is very little robot tellable from the vehicle mode. Transformation is fun, can be fast but very satisfying.

the robot mode looks so much like G1 Megs, has a beautiful head and very nice detail. there is detail everywhere you look, even beneath plates of armor that move! The paint job is gorgeous and the fusion cannon, while a little long in the back, looks very good with the firing missile part back. All the paint lost in the combiner wars figures was made up for this guy. He has very little kibble, and to me the tank treads on the back make him look bulkier and much more imposing. He is still quite posable despite everything and you can put his extra guns on his legs for more bulk look. He looks like he should turn into a gun but doesn't! It to me is a true G1 Megs brought to life. The Armada version is not as good since the silver makes the figure and the armada just doesn't look as close to the original as the G1 version.

I would seriously have bought the guy at full price but managed to get him for cheaper. He was well worth full price to me. If you really want Armada, I'd say wait for massive discounts, but I would get the G1 Megs if you have the chance. He is an amazing leader and honestly the best of the combiner wars leaders all around

I paid 40 even for my leader class Megatron, & I don't feel ripped off on it. Of course, I would have liked that paid less and I'm of mixed feelings if he's really worth $40 but like I said, I don't feel ripped off. If you're a big Megatron then I'd say go for it. The Canon is very disappointing, and he could use a little more articulation, but that's it. another plus the fact that Megatron feel so much more solid than the other recent leader class in trees by Hasbro.he doesn't feel like he's going to break apart in your hands.

Also Will, a good argument for Jetfire being designed first, and the Seekers just being a repaint, is the IDW Transformers comic.Starscream's reformatting into the leader class seeker body felt very out of nowhere. You can clearly tell it was Hasbro flexing their muscles on the artist.

Just want to add,

If you do go for G1 Megs, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's worth the wait to see what Amazon does for Black Friday

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think it's worth the wait to see what Amazon does for Black Friday

Not sure, amazon.ca doesnt know what it is doing in canada. Their retail price for Megatron is 70$. F**K OFF Amazon.ca!

http://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-B1136AS0-TRANSFORMERS-Generationerations-MEGATRON/dp/B00ND603UU/ref=sr_1_1?tag=seibertron0b-20&ie=UTF8&qid=1445982715&sr=8-1&keywords=megatron

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think it's worth the wait to see what Amazon does for Black Friday

Not sure, amazon.ca doesnt know what it is doing in canada. Their retail price for Megatron is 70$. F**K OFF Amazon.ca!

http://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-B1136AS0-TRANSFORMERS-Generationerations-MEGATRON/dp/B00ND603UU/ref=sr_1_1?tag=seibertron0b-20&ie=UTF8&qid=1445982715&sr=8-1&keywords=megatron

On sale now for 43.14!! You save 38%!!

Maybe they heard you, WJ88? Or are they pulling a Kohls? (If you don't have them, Kohls here in the US is notorious for jacking up the price and providing us with unbelievable savings. I mean, my shoes are $130 shoes I got for $34.99!)

Agamemnon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think it's worth the wait to see what Amazon does for Black Friday

Not sure, amazon.ca doesnt know what it is doing in canada. Their retail price for Megatron is 70$. F**K OFF Amazon.ca!

http://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-B1136AS0-TRANSFORMERS-Generationerations-MEGATRON/dp/B00ND603UU/ref=sr_1_1?tag=seibertron0b-20&ie=UTF8&qid=1445982715&sr=8-1&keywords=megatron

On sale now for 43.14!! You save 38%!!

Maybe they heard you, WJ88? Or are they pulling a Kohls? (If you don't have them, Kohls here in the US is notorious for jacking up the price and providing us with unbelievable savings. I mean, my shoes are $130 shoes I got for $34.99!)

They were pulling a Khols all along (we dont have Khols, but I get the drift from reading posts). They never issued him for 70$ (not that I know), I was just quoting their "MSRP" price and how the savings were not that much of savings afterall. I will be waiting till black friday to see how this guy goes (as well as Trypticon and the astrotrain blitzwing set). If he goes for 30$, he is bought.