Official Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure TAVVS05 Drift and Jazz

gimme gimme gimme all of that!
That Prime deco is www. thebomb.com!
That Drift is something else too.

Starsaber468 wrote:Looks so amazing yet i wish it was voyager class though still it looks great its better than nothing but i wish they would of still done the warrior class versions but anyway cannot see what comes down the line

They did make a warrior class version of the Optimus:



AND DAMN I would have really liked to know these were coming out in advance so I could better plan my purchases. As it stands I already have all these takara molds and have no use for double dipping

Jazz and Drift ohh LALA!

Prime

Drift

That is all

Eh I'm not as impressed with drift as I wanted to be. I love the character but this just isn't doing it for me. Maybe it's because I love the generations mold so much that it's probably skewing my view.

Seeing them side by side like that, I honestly feel Drift looks better than Jazz. Yes the weapon storage puts the figure over the top

william-james88 wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:Looks so amazing yet i wish it was voyager class though still it looks great its better than nothing but i wish they would of still done the warrior class versions but anyway cannot see what comes down the line

They did make a warrior class version of the Optimus:



AND DAMN I would have really liked to know these were coming out in advance so I could better plan my purchases. As it stands I already have all these takara molds and have no use for double dipping

I was refering to takara making one though not hasbro being pretty inaccurate

Starsaber468 wrote:I was refering to takara making one though not hasbro being pretty inaccurate

Takara does have one and they opted for the same deco:



So takara was a warrior clash deco and a leader supreme mode deco available.

Wow, Drift looks great.

Upon further inspection...

It would appear that not only can he wear minicons on his forearms as shields, but also on his kneecaps as knee pads.

KeeeeEEEWWWWWLLLLL!

Nice lookin bots but Drift just has too much leg kibble and arm/shoulder bulk. He always has i suppose but it just seems so counter intuitive for a character to be so skilled to look so cumbersome in bot mode.

Anybody else have TAV21 Optimus Prime? I have two questions"

1) Is there supposed to be a gap between the trailer and cab? The pictures on the packaging and instructions say no but there's no way to close it up.

2) Does the truck drag on the ground? It seems like the shoulders sit a little too low.

MGrotusque wrote:Nice lookin bots but Drift just has too much leg kibble and arm/shoulder bulk. He always has i suppose but it just seems so counter intuitive for a character to be so skilled to look so cumbersome in bot mode.

I find it works to mimic samurai armour with lots of padding at the shoulders and hips. Bu I totally get what you mean and it boggles my mind that they used the same kibble heavy generations mold for generations blurr who has no excuse to look cumbersome.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody else have TAV21 Optimus Prime? I have two questions"

1) Is there supposed to be a gap between the trailer and cab? The pictures on the packaging and instructions say no but there's no way to close it up.

2) Does the truck drag on the ground? It seems like the shoulders sit a little too low.

I dont have him with me right now so I dont know about number 2 (haha) but I know for sure that there is a gap because I myself thought the same thing. I realized that the pictures angle it so that it seems there is no gap when indeed there is. Maybe this image will help.

The Takara counterparts suck @ss as much as the Hasbro line IMO. But the awesomeness in this OP cuts through all that crap like a hot blade through an energon cube. I can't wait to pick this one up!

If the Drift exclusive to Japan, or will it be released stateside too?

Okay, someone sell me on this mold. I don't have Jazz...

Is this mold a good mold for an IDW ESQUE Drift, or too blocky? Is this a better Drift in your opinion than say the Generations Drift for posability, play value and general looks? And does the asthetic stand out too muchcompared to the myriad of Generations styles between CW and going back to some of the early Classics or is this Best Drift Ever? Cause I like it but i dont know if I need another Drift and I sont pkan to get the Rid Figg cause I am just not that attached to him

Flashwave wrote:Okay, someone sell me on this mold. I don't have Jazz...

Is this mold a good mold for an IDW ESQUE Drift, or too blocky? Is this a better Drift in your opinion than say the Generations Drift for posability, play value and general looks? And does the asthetic stand out too muchcompared to the myriad of Generations styles between CW and going back to some of the early Classics or is this Best Drift Ever? Cause I like it but i dont know if I need another Drift and I sont pkan to get the Rid Figg cause I am just not that attached to him

Well, I do not have generations Drift, but I can tell you the style does stand out a bit, but the figure is really fun to mess with and transform. His swords are nice hard plastic and they store in every mode very nicely. He's a bit bulky, but that fits some of the japanese armor design to me, and it works on him. Plus the IDW version of this mold has a great head and the colors mesh nicely. They really aren't that far from his current IDW MTMTE look

Umbra wrote:If the Drift exclusive to Japan, or will it be released stateside too?

Yup, exclusive to Takara. It's just a redeco though, it uses the same mold as the RID drift released stateside.

Flashwave wrote:Okay, someone sell me on this mold. I don't have Jazz...

Is this mold a good mold for an IDW ESQUE Drift, or too blocky? Is this a better Drift in your opinion than say the Generations Drift for posability, play value and general looks? And does the asthetic stand out too muchcompared to the myriad of Generations styles between CW and going back to some of the early Classics or is this Best Drift Ever? Cause I like it but i dont know if I need another Drift and I sont pkan to get the Rid Figg cause I am just not that attached to him

They are both great molds but far from as articulated as the generations toys and very different in style. This Drift is almost like an animated TF version of IDW Drift. I think it is an awesome drift and its transformation and look is more original than the generations toy, but that is when he is seen apart from the rest. As a stand alone toy, it is great. But as part of an IDW set, he would surely stick out like a sore thumb. The feet are just flip down panels for instance. And he<s shorter than the other figures of the generations line.

Maybe this pics will help since this Drift is a redeco of the orange drift in the pic below:


Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Drift Gallery

While the deco changes, the proportions and overal style is the same.

william-james88 wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Nice lookin bots but Drift just has too much leg kibble and arm/shoulder bulk. He always has i suppose but it just seems so counter intuitive for a character to be so skilled to look so cumbersome in bot mode.

I find it works to mimic samurai armour with lots of padding at the shoulders and hips. Bu I totally get what you mean and it boggles my mind that they used the same kibble heavy generations mold for generations blurr who has no excuse to look cumbersome.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody else have TAV21 Optimus Prime? I have two questions"

1) Is there supposed to be a gap between the trailer and cab? The pictures on the packaging and instructions say no but there's no way to close it up.

2) Does the truck drag on the ground? It seems like the shoulders sit a little too low.

I dont have him with me right now so I dont know about number 2 (haha) but I know for sure that there is a gap because I myself thought the same thing. I realized that the pictures angle it so that it seems there is no gap when indeed there is. Maybe this image will help.

OK I was doing something wrong as you could see the gray ankle joint from the sides. I don't think I had the legs/torso positioned properly.

Every month, Takara's youtube channel uploads videos showcasing the transformation for their upcoming monthly releases (loaded with sound effects). This month is no exception and features a the long awaited release of a voyager figure of Grimlock. Check it out below and let us know if you spot any differences in its transformation from the original FOC mold. The videos found on the channel this month are:

TAV 29 Bumblebee Supreme Mode



TAV 30 Battle Grimlock



TAV 31 Black Shadow



TAV 32 Rumble & Frenzy



TAV VS 04 Sideswipe S Stepper



TED 13 Drift



TED 14 Fracture

Grimlock and Bee both look good, but for some reason I thought Bee was going to use the 3-step mold. I wonder if all the main season 1 cast will get super modes.

Oh and for those wondering about this new drift. It cant be the IDW one ebcause they left him with a sculpted mustache.

Whoa, what's up with that last little flap on Grimlock? Is that new to the mold or have I been living a lie? Actually he appears to have a few extra pivot point on his dino neck as well.


I'm also loving the new rubsign favicon on the internet tab.

Sadly Grimmy still has a hole in his dino mode stomach, but I expected that would be the case so no points lost.

Takara's done it again!

carytheone wrote:Whoa, what's up with that last little flap on Grimlock? Is that new to the mold or have I been living a lie? Actually he appears to have a few extra pivot point on his dino neck as well.


I'm also loving the new rubsign favicon on the internet tab.

I actually have stayed away from looking at this transformation in hope that I dont spoil a possible surprise. Now that you mention something that may be new, I am really tempted to spoil it for myself and see what you are talking about. Sounds super interesting. Do you guys think this is the best remold we have ever gotten? Or does Generations Sandstorm still win that title?

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:Whoa, what's up with that last little flap on Grimlock? Is that new to the mold or have I been living a lie? Actually he appears to have a few extra pivot point on his dino neck as well.


I'm also loving the new rubsign favicon on the internet tab.

I actually have stayed away from looking at this transformation in hope that I dont spoil a possible surprise. Now that you mention something that may be new, I am really tempted to spoil it for myself and see what you are talking about. Sounds super interesting. Do you guys think this is the best remold we have ever gotten? Or does Generations Sandstorm still win that title?

That's a hard call. I own Sandstorm and Springer and they are standing next to each other. Most of the time Sandstorm just looks like a yellow and orange Springer. They did do some really awesome retool/remolds on SS though and them VTOLs are most epic.

Most of the changes on Battle Grimlock seems to be the head. Looks like a new head, new neck movement (seems to be just for transformation) and a flap that I don't recognize.

I do believe that best retool/remold would make for some lively debate though. Maybe a top 5 list if you haven't done one yet.

If you own FoC Grims, no spoilers here. If not, avoid like the plague.

carytheone wrote:
I do believe that best retool/remold would make for some lively debate though. Maybe a top 5 list if you haven't done one yet.

If you own FoC Grims, no spoilers here. If not, avoid like the plague.

Well Cary, you see right through me. yes indeed as with most of my questions, this is for an eventual top 5 list. I just look for some affirmation here and there and most of all I look for things I didnt think about. Like Lance Henriksen for best celeb guest voices. How could I forget

But yeah, I have a list going on and its pretty strong, will make for a great discussion. I was just wondering if there were any you had in mind. The tail is totally retooled too.

And I do have FOC grimlock but the G1 version that came with silver Prime from target. For some reason, it sold in canada at the regular price of 16$. Thats paying for the deluxes and getting a free voyager. So I picked it up and I must say I dont mind that grimlock. I hate the plastic and the tail, and the flimsiness but its not a bad design. I have seen far far worse tfs (that is also a list on its own).

Oh and speaking of grimlocks, I tried making a top 5 grimlock toys but that didnt work. It was MP Grimlock as number 1 and then everything else was an honourable mention. While Megatrons and Optimus prime toys are usually the best of a line, it's not the same for Grimlock, he doesnt have too many great toys.

carytheone wrote:
Most of the changes on Battle Grimlock seems to be the head. Looks like a new head, new neck movement (seems to be just for transformation) and a flap that I don't recognize.

Actually there's a lot more changes than that on this guy. His robot shoulders, hips, chest, and knees are different as well. There's probably more stuff that I'm missing though.

carytheone wrote:I'm also loving the new rubsign favicon on the internet tab.

Hey ya! Too bad it doesn't "get rubbed" when you hover on it.

Just fiddled with my FoC Grim to compare. It looks to me that almost every surface has been re-sculpted except his robo forearms / Dino lower leg.
I have the same FoC that Will mentioned. Was the plastic that bad on all versions of that mold?
I hope Takara traded up the cost of the electronics for better plastic. If not, like his FoC brethren, he'll still look great.

Robogeek1973 wrote:

carytheone wrote:Most of the changes on Battle Grimlock seems to be the head. Looks like a new head, new neck movement (seems to be just for transformation) and a flap that I don't recognize.

Actually there's a lot more changes than that on this guy. His robot shoulders, hips, chest, and knees are different as well. There's probably more stuff that I'm missing though.

I meant as far as transformations spoilers go. Most of the surfaces seems to have been retooled, but transformation wise, it doesn't seem that much has changed.

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm also loving the new rubsign favicon on the internet tab.

Hey ya! Too bad it doesn't "get rubbed" when you hover on it.

Just fiddled with my FoC Grim to compare. It looks to me that almost every surface has been re-sculpted except his robo forearms / Dino lower leg.
I have the same FoC that Will mentioned. Was the plastic that bad on all versions of that mold?
I hope Takara traded up the cost of the electronics for better plastic. If not, like his FoC brethren, he'll still look great.

I have the standard vanillia FoC Grimsy. I've never noticed a plastic issue, but my collection is mostly new stuffs anyway, so I don't really have much to compare too. I think he is a cool bot with nice aesthetics. But I do think Battle Grimlock did it better. Honestly, it kinda looks like the mold was meant for him or they based the animation model off it.

I guess what I mean is; good job Takara

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm also loving the new rubsign favicon on the internet tab.

Hey ya! Too bad it doesn't "get rubbed" when you hover on it.

Just fiddled with my FoC Grim to compare. It looks to me that almost every surface has been re-sculpted except his robo forearms / Dino lower leg.
I have the same FoC that Will mentioned. Was the plastic that bad on all versions of that mold?
I hope Takara traded up the cost of the electronics for better plastic. If not, like his FoC brethren, he'll still look great.

Hasbro typically uses cheaper plastic on "minor" store exclusives, especially the movie stuff. The FOC Grimlock has sturdy plastic, but the one G1 repaint Target exclusive I saw had the neck snapped right off the body in the sealed package. I imagine the chrome will be flaking off in the coming years.

Emerje

Emerje wrote: I imagine the chrome will be flaking off in the coming years.

Emerje

I wouldn't be surprised.

FoC Grimlock is honestly my favorite Grimlock mold. i love that guy so much. His robot mode just screams bulk, muscle and anger issues, and the dino-mode with light up jaws and eyes is really cool too. They picked a winner to me to retool into RiD Grimlock

carytheone wrote:I've never noticed a plastic issue, but my collection is mostly new stuffs anyway, so I don't really have much to compare too.

I highly suggest you look at local thrift shops, church sales and yard sales wherever you are to try to come across some cheap toys from the Cybertron series just so you can feel the difference in plastic and overal construction. It is really worthwhile and I think you would have a lot of fun with them. The transformation schemes are more along the lines of the current RID line but with a lot more heft and paint apps with the most traditional Japanese TF aesthetic I have ever seen for mainline toys released stateside. I hope you can experience the likes of Jetfire, Vector Prime or Landmine one day (just to name a few).

carytheone wrote:Whoa, what's up with that last little flap on Grimlock? Is that new to the mold or have I been living a lie? Actually he appears to have a few extra pivot point on his dino neck as well.

Oh wow, I decided to watch the video and yeah, that entire beast head transformation is totally new and far more involved (3 steps instead of one). The plastic looks nice and sturdy too

I do have a major problem with his feet being grey. Don know why they couldnt have just used the same black plastic they use in the tip of his tail.

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:Whoa, what's up with that last little flap on Grimlock? Is that new to the mold or have I been living a lie? Actually he appears to have a few extra pivot point on his dino neck as well.

Oh wow, I decided to watch the video and yeah, that entire beast head transformation is totally new and far more involved (3 steps instead of one). The plastic looks nice and sturdy too

I do have a major problem with his feet being grey. Don know why they couldnt have just used the same black plastic they use in the tip of his tail.

Probably because of this:

carytheone wrote:Probably because of this:

THANKS! That is still a bit too much grey in my opinion. That amount does not repesent what the animation model is going for too well.

Gah, Grim just looks so good! And I love the character in the show, so you know what? He really works for me

Grimlock looks really good, except for the giant fat tail; they couldn't figure out a way to adapt the RID version's tail-to-foot transformation? It worked so well!

Prime's upgrade, reminds me of his ML upgrade colors

Prime's new colors look so amazing. I love the black. it really makes him stand out

bbts has 8 new figs up for pre-order, they include a version of warrior megatronus, so perhaps TT won't be issuing a leader version?

You heard it here folks

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=20292

Also includes a new Springload figure., it looks to be a 'spring action' Springload (easy change)

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

Sorry, looks like you missed out, shoulda acted sooner

You could get it from amazon, if you really want to pay that much

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TAV29-Bumblebee-Supreme-mode/dp/B014KHTWXY?tag=seibertron07-20&

You could try here

http://www.agesthreeandup.com/transformers-adventure-tav-29-bumblebee-sublime-mode/

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

Sorry, looks like you missed out, shoulda acted sooner

You could get it from amazon, if you really want to pay that much

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TAV29-Bumblebee-Supreme-mode/dp/B014KHTWXY?tag=seibertron07-20&

He's really not available anywhere? That's such a shame. I actually now want to get a Bee from the show and the best one is sold out

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

Sorry, looks like you missed out, shoulda acted sooner

You could get it from amazon, if you really want to pay that much

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TAV29-Bumblebee-Supreme-mode/dp/B014KHTWXY?tag=seibertron07-20&

He's really not available anywhere? That's such a shame. I actually now want to get a Bee from the show and the best one is sold out

Everywhere I saw, tfsource, bbts, amiami...

It's been stated a lot, and I mentioned him back when you asked for him - he was instock then - but you gotta act quick once 'official' or in-hand images come out; check my edit

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

Sorry, looks like you missed out, shoulda acted sooner

You could get it from amazon, if you really want to pay that much

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TAV29-Bumblebee-Supreme-mode/dp/B014KHTWXY?tag=seibertron07-20&

He's really not available anywhere? That's such a shame. I actually now want to get a Bee from the show and the best one is sold out

Everywhere I saw, tfsource, bbts, amiami...

It's been stated a lot, and I mentioned him back when you asked for him - he was instock then - but you gotta act quick once 'official' or in-hand images come out; check my edit

Dammit. Wished I had actually wanted to get him sooner....

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

Sorry, looks like you missed out, shoulda acted sooner

You could get it from amazon, if you really want to pay that much

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TAV29-Bumblebee-Supreme-mode/dp/B014KHTWXY?tag=seibertron07-20&

He's really not available anywhere? That's such a shame. I actually now want to get a Bee from the show and the best one is sold out

Everywhere I saw, tfsource, bbts, amiami...

It's been stated a lot, and I mentioned him back when you asked for him - he was instock then - but you gotta act quick once 'official' or in-hand images come out; check my edit

Dammit. Wished I had actually wanted to get him sooner....

Yep, it's not right, but forcing people to make a split second decision can generate sales (and regret and resentment, and...), thus moving product.

I really don't know why their productions runs are so small, they clearly have the market for these figures, even if most of them are exported...

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy cow, a Springload! Even if it is not a warrior, still a cool addition.

Also, anyone know where I can find a takara Bumblebee supreme (from the season finale), when it's coming out and how much it is?

Sorry, looks like you missed out, shoulda acted sooner

You could get it from amazon, if you really want to pay that much

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TAV29-Bumblebee-Supreme-mode/dp/B014KHTWXY?tag=seibertron07-20&

He's really not available anywhere? That's such a shame. I actually now want to get a Bee from the show and the best one is sold out

He was actually at HLJ for a long time and was still there yesterday when I cancelled my preorder for him and the Strongarm/Sideswipe/Fixit three pack.

I don't understand why he's gone completely now though, but I'm willing to bet he'll pop back up once HLJ gets their stock in.