Official Images: BotCon 2014 Pirates vs. Knights Cannonball
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Posted by Flashwave on March 3rd, 2014 @ 10:30pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 3rd, 2014 @ 10:35pm CST
Posted by Mkall on March 3rd, 2014 @ 10:47pm CST
Posted by Manterax Prime on March 3rd, 2014 @ 11:14pm CST
Show me the actual plastic.
Posted by Rated X on March 3rd, 2014 @ 11:26pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 3rd, 2014 @ 11:28pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 3rd, 2014 @ 11:30pm CST
The nature of the pictures' release.Rated X wrote:Whats the difference between this photo and the ones already released ?
And the background, I guess.
Posted by Deadput on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:41am CST
Manterax Prime wrote:I love how FunPubs definition of "official" nowadays is "let's photoshop the colors and put on a CG rendered head"
Show me the actual plastic.
even though its the actual toy except touched up with Photoshop.
Posted by xyl360 on March 4th, 2014 @ 1:11am CST
Posted by Henry921 on March 4th, 2014 @ 5:45am CST
Not a theme I'm attached to, but I'm looking forward to some potential repurposing.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 4th, 2014 @ 6:27am CST
Henry921 wrote:Does this mean the next month will reveal the next 4 members of the box set?
They should do it sooner, before people actually start signing up for packages. To some fans the exclusives decide whether they go to the convention or not, just get the sets mailed to them, or pass on the set entirely. So the set should be revealed before the deadline for signing up for BotCon.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2014 @ 8:46am CST
If the other pirates all turn out to Squadron X members, then there may not need to be repurposing since they'd already be G1 characters.Henry921 wrote:Not a theme I'm attached to, but I'm looking forward to some potential repurposing.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2014 @ 8:55am CST
Sabrblade wrote:If the other pirates all turn out to Squadron X members, then there may not need to be repurposing since they'd already be G1 characters.Henry921 wrote:Not a theme I'm attached to, but I'm looking forward to some potential repurposing.
Collectors' Club wrote:This is more than just a homage set though, as it brings characters from across the mythos into the Fun Publications “G1 cartoon” universe, with a couple other surprises in store for you as well!
This will be interesting to say the least. We have a Cannonball from Cybertron, who'll be next?
Posted by shajaki on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:37pm CST
Posted by WiseMan on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:25pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:28pm CST
No one questioned this about Cybertron Cannonball.WiseMan wrote:FunPub had better explain in the comic why Cannonball, a pirate, would want to transform into an ambulance.
Cannonball's schtick is that, like the Dread Pirate Roberts, he can be anybody, for he is only a name and reputation, with many having assumed the mantle of the role. He could turn into a cotton candy machine of all things and still work as Cannonball.
Posted by WiseMan on March 4th, 2014 @ 4:58pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:No one questioned this about Cybertron Cannonball.
Cannonball's schtick is that, like the Dread Pirate Roberts, he can be anybody, for he is only a name and reputation, with many having assumed the mantle of the role. He could turn into a cotton candy machine of all things and still work as Cannonball.
I understand that, but there are two problems.
First, Cybertron Red Alert didn't really look like an ambulance except for the paint job. When you look at the Prime Ratchet mode from behind? Look, it's an ambulance.
And second, I don't think this Dread Pirate Roberts/Cannonball has ever fallen in love and left the pirate life. I think they're always pretty much evil and stuff.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2014 @ 5:02pm CST
It's not the personality but the concept that he's derived from.WiseMan wrote:And second, I don't think this Dread Pirate Roberts/Cannonball has ever fallen in love and left the pirate life. I think they're always pretty much evil and stuff.
Kinda like what IDW Ultra Magnus is.
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 4th, 2014 @ 11:28pm CST
Posted by spongedude93 on March 4th, 2014 @ 11:55pm CST
Noideaforaname wrote:It'd be kinda interesting to see a bit of Cannonball's pre-pirate history, some origin of his ambulance alt. Like if he used to be a medic but decided to pursue a more lucrative career, or was shanghaied into it, or if he's rebelling against Functionism or something. I'd also love to see the previous Cannonball title holders, and if there was any attempt by them to keep a continuity going (did they all have the Oingo Boingo skeletons? or is that the current one's signature?).
All of the pirates in the two packs and army builders turn out to be Cannonball's of 2-3 varying molds and colour schemes.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2014 @ 12:05am CST
I wouldn't expect much outside of Cannonball's toy bio since the most substantial, character exploration-based fiction the Club produces comes from the text stories, any of which they haven't published since 2011 and the next one coming up will return to focusing on the dimensionally-displaced G1 GoBots.Noideaforaname wrote:It'd be kinda interesting to see a bit of Cannonball's pre-pirate history, some origin of his ambulance alt. Like if he used to be a medic but decided to pursue a more lucrative career, or was shanghaied into it, or if he's rebelling against Functionism or something. I'd also love to see the previous Cannonball title holders, and if there was any attempt by them to keep a continuity going (did they all have the Oingo Boingo skeletons? or is that the current one's signature?).
Not to mention how this year's convention comic story is supposed to be the concluding story of the Wing Universe, wrapping it up into its end; so Cannonball here will be starring in this continuity's final chapter.
Though, we did get a glimpse at one of the previous Cannonballs of the past, who was a Decepticon Warlord that led the Maraudicons, but not much else was touched upon him before Deathsaurus murdered him along with the other Warlords.
Posted by bvzxa on March 5th, 2014 @ 12:27am CST
This repaint is an exclusive...of a repaint, which IMO was better when it came out in 2006. And you guys are excited?
Man what will they think of next.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2014 @ 12:32am CST
It's no different than when e-HOBBY made that Generations Magnificus toy, which itself was an exclusive redeco/remold based on another redeco, only the one that that one was based on was also an exclusive. And yet, people wanted that Magnificus.bvzxa wrote:It's stupid.
This repaint is an exclusive...of a repaint, which IMO was better when it came out in 2006. And you guys are excited?
Man what will they think of next.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 5th, 2014 @ 3:18pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's no different than when e-HOBBY made that Generations Magnificus toy, which itself was an exclusive redeco/remold based on another redeco, only the one that that one was based on was also an exclusive. And yet, people wanted that Magnificus.bvzxa wrote:It's stupid.
This repaint is an exclusive...of a repaint, which IMO was better when it came out in 2006. And you guys are excited?
Man what will they think of next.
Eh, come again?
Given past trends, we can expect the next reveals on the 10th, 17th, 24th and the 31st of March: one for every week. I wonder who's next.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2014 @ 3:26pm CST
He's mad that this exclusive Cannonball toy is just a mere redeco based on a character who was also just a mere redeco.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Eh, come again?
I compared it to the Generations Magnificus toy that was also an exclusive redeco based on an existing redeco (G1 Magnificus, whom I also noted was an exclusive itself).
Posted by Henry921 on March 6th, 2014 @ 1:08am CST
I guess when you hear 'exclusive' you assume it's something new and special, but most Hasbro 'exclusives' are just repaints of their previous toys, but we sometimes see items from older lines that were cancelled and repurposed for a new series, thus feeling 'new' to us. Lest we forget the very first BotCon toy, G2 Breakdown, a straight redeco of his G1 toy?
FunPub doesn't have the resources to make new molds (save for four new heads at Botcon, and something like two-three new heads a year for their own member exclusives and subscription service). They're not a giant multi-national business like Hasbro.
Doesn't mean we can't love 'em and spend way too much money on them though.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 6th, 2014 @ 8:12am CST
It's not that this Cannonball is a mere redeco that bvzxa was bothered by. It's that it's a redeco that is based on something that was already a redeco to being with, instead of a redeco with a more original deco.Henry921 wrote:People are still surprised BotCon exclusives are repaints and retools of existing toys?
Posted by El Duque on March 6th, 2014 @ 6:22pm CST
JACK ANGEL got his first real break voicing characters for the 1970’s SuperFriends cartoon. From there he would go on to voice numerous cartoon characters of all shapes and sizes with some from a whole ‘nother world! Transformers fans know Jack for the various characters he played on the 80’s G-1 cartoon series, from Ramjet, Astrotrain and Breakdown to Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus and Omega Supreme!
In addition to his work on Transformers, Jack’s voice could be heard on G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, The Real Ghostbusters, Jem, Tailspin, Darkwing Duck, The Mask, Fox’s Spiderman and many other series!
Jack has recently starred in Toy Story 3 as Chunk and in different Smurf’s features/video games as Papa Smurf. Come see Jack on Friday, Saturday and Sunday for panels, autographs and at other special events featured at BotCon 2014!
Posted by Sabrblade on March 6th, 2014 @ 6:25pm CST
Posted by bvzxa on March 8th, 2014 @ 5:43am CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's not that this Cannonball is a mere redeco that bvzxa was bothered by. It's that it's a redeco that is based on something that was already a redeco to being with, instead of a redeco with a more original deco.Henry921 wrote:People are still surprised BotCon exclusives are repaints and retools of existing toys?
Thanks for clarifying Sabrblade.
I wouldn't compare this to the new E-Hobby Magnificus. The history of the figure and the fact that it's an update just like Classics Perceptor is an update to G1 Perceptor, the Magnificus repaint was pretty much a done deal.
I'm on the fence because the Prime molds were pretty weak with the exception of the First Editions. I'm sure convention collectors will be happy with this repaint but I stand by the Cybertron repaint is still a heck of a lot better.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 10th, 2014 @ 2:15pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on March 10th, 2014 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on March 10th, 2014 @ 2:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Another reveal is coming today - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443095022582263808
Based on the image that was attached... Yep, toys representing members of SquadronX for the first time inbound!
Posted by Blurrz on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:20pm CDT
Here is our second figure reveal from the BotCon 2014 Convention set - PIRATES VS KNIGHTS! Formerly part of Squadron X, Ferak and his brother in arms, Tornado, have now joined with Cannonball's crew of PIRATES to seek glory and riches! Each contributing skills key to the success of the heist, how can the Heroic Cybertronian KNIGHTS put an end to the plunder?
This year's amazing five-figure set explores a whole new theme while also celebrating 30 years of the Transformers! This is more than just a homage set though, as it brings characters from across the mythos into the Fun Publications "G1 cartoon" universe, with a couple more surprises still in store for you!
Posted by El Duque on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:27pm CDT
Here is our second figure reveal from the BotCon 2014 Convention set - PIRATES VS KNIGHTS! Formerly part of Squadron X, Ferak and his brother in arms, Tornado, have now joined with Cannonball's crew of PIRATES to seek glory and riches! Each contributing skills key to the success of the heist, how can the Heroic Cybertronian KNIGHTS put an end to the plunder?
This year's amazing five-figure set explores a whole new theme while also celebrating 30 years of the Transformers! This is more than just a homage set though, as it brings characters from across the mythos into the Fun Publications "G1 cartoon" universe, with a couple more surprises still in store for you!
Posted by Sabrblade on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:28pm CDT
Tornado is his Targetmaster - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/443165610436870144
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:36pm CDT
Posted by dragons on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:39pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:46pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:53pm CDT
All he needs is to have that white replaced with pastel lavender.
Posted by Cyber Bishop on March 10th, 2014 @ 6:58pm CDT
Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:00pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:03pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:03pm CDT
Posted by triKlops on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:04pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:14pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:29pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:30pm CDT
Calling it now, though: if Macabre is coming up soon, it's gunna be from Generations Black Shadow. Ain't no convincing with me unless the reveal says different.
Posted by Optimizzy on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:31pm CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on March 10th, 2014 @ 7:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, shouldn't this topic be merged with the main one?
Technically it should, however since it is "newsed" if it is merged it will mess things up a bit.