Official Artwork for Transformers Power of the Primes Dinobots

And once again... red chest swoop.

Still liking everything I see. Rippersnapper looks great in both modes as does Moon Racer. I like how they were able to still keep her sleek in robot mode without having a huge backpack like generations Arcee. Hun-Grrr looks alright, front feet are a bit undersized but it's not the end of the world. I actually like the look of Primal too. I'm not a fan of beast wars and organic alt modes so the fact that there are none here is a huge bonus.

steals_your_goats wrote:Rippersnapper looks great in both modes as does Moon Racer.

I'm not fan of MoonRacer. I want fembots, more fembots, but not like this. These feet really turn me off, it's typical of the worst transformations we got from movies lines, now coming on generations.

I'd like Moonracer a lot more if it wasn't for the big panel slapped on her thigh. I understand that this isn't exactly a Masterpiece budget so it's not like there was much else for it to go; but you could at least try and wrap it around the lower leg as armour or a bulkier physique or something. As is, the leg unfortunately just doesn't look very good.

ExciKaiser wrote:I more think they did some stats and threw these more or less as random names in order to add choices, perfectly knowing they had no chances at all facing Magnus, Primal and such.

I am certain this is what happened too. Hasbro reads these forums, there were never gonna be plans for Arcee or Hound to be leaders, knowing all the other choices. I think we would have had a Primal as well regardless if he would have won. I highly doubt all the planning we see in those slides developped since February of this very year.

Qwan wrote:Hey, guess what everyone's gonna hate to hear? I've been examining the renders of the Dinobots (mostly because I just can't get enough of those beatiful things ) and I'm pretty sure Sludge and Slug share a base mold.

All dinobots aside from Swoop shared similar engineering in G1, similar to how many combiner components had similar engineering so this its to be expected that there are several similarities between them in this revamp. I already took it for granted that there would be some parts/engineering sharing among them.

I know this is never going to happen but I would love to see next year's May mayhem figure be paddles out of sludge. All they really need to do is replace the legs for flippers.

william-james88 wrote:

ExciKaiser wrote:I more think they did some stats and threw these more or less as random names in order to add choices, perfectly knowing they had no chances at all facing Magnus, Primal and such.

I am certain this is what happened too. Hasbro reads these forums, there were never gonna be plans for Arcee or Hound to be leaders, knowing all the other choices. I think we would have had a Primal as well regardless if he would have won. I highly doubt all the planning we see in those slides developped since February of this very year.

At the very least, some sort of plans or designs would have been drawn up for any possibility. Arcee or Hound winning were fairly - maybe extremely - unlikely, but I highly doubt a company as large, rich and successful like Hasbro would decide to completely discount it and be completely unprepared for the eventuality.

So, in the end, let's recap :

- Dinobots. Nothing to say here, they're perfect updates of the original characters. I wonder if we should wait if Takara plans to chrome them. The fact they combine is an added bonus which doesn't seem to impact a lot their individual modes. Adding a new member is nice, however it looks like she doesn't complete the combiner on any form. Must have.

- Micronus. No surprise here, I'm fan from the very first pic of the small pretender shells. I still think it's the only coherent way to update the broken concept of the initial pretenders and I'll defend them during all the duration of the line.
I already decided from the leaks I'll probably got all of them.
The only unknown point for me is how they'll combine to larger figures, I can't see attachement point, peg etc..

- Orion Pax / Optimus. I'm not really fan of Orion's design, especially the head. I know it's 100% cartoon accurate, but I was not fan of this part either, we were facing cartoon designer without imagination at this time. But the rest of the toy is cool and the combined form doesn't seem to suffer any kind of issue despite its constraints. Definitely must have.

- Hun-Gurr. Ouch. I'm not a GeeWun who will complain about the fact the tail is on his chest or wathever, don't care. But this beast mode is absolutely ridiculous, with the front atrophied legs, the silverbolt rear legs.. It'll be a pass from me I think. I guess it's the price to pay to have 5 new molds with the dinobots.

- RipperSnapper. Nothing to say. Looks decent. Let's wait the rest of the team before deciding what to do with him.

- MoonRacer. What a deception. I can't look away these feet. When it's impossible to be cartoon accurate, they should assume it instead of trying like this. I think I can easily say that most of us would have prefered bulky aromered legs like T30 Chromia, than this. Or maybe I'm wrong ? But for now, I think it'll be a pass. And I'm afraid Novastar will use the same mold.

- Optimus Primal. Let wait the colors, but I'll defend this one until the end. He looks fantastic and fun. Day one, I want a preorder, now.


I wasn't enthousiast about POTP after the SDCC. Two aerialbots repaints, terribly proportionated Starscream with terrible transformation, useless prime masters... The only good point was Rodimus.

I'm more confident now with what we seen here.

Qwan wrote:Hey, guess what everyone's gonna hate to hear? I've been examining the renders of the Dinobots (mostly because I just can't get enough of those beatiful things ) and I'm pretty sure Sludge and Slug share a base mold. Tip-offs include the shared guns, upper arms (which are oriented opposite to each other in dino mode since their torsos face different ways respectively) and basic engineering in the legs (I'm pretty sure the robot hips and upper legs are shared too but I can't tell because of the way Sludge is posed). They're still plenty different in both sculpt and non-leg engineering so it doesn't bother me personally, but since we're always looking for that fabled retool connection (someday we'll find it... the lovers, the dreamers and me) I thought I'd point it out.

(YET ANOTHER EDIT: It actually looks like their robot shin-pieces might be shared too, upon even further examination. But the fact that just the different deco and dino-legs-and-tail made it take so long for me to notice it, even when I was looking for shared parts, makes me feel like Hasbro knows what they're doing and have the differentiation under control. )

On a much more exciting Dinobot-related note, I'm now noticing in the renders that all the Deluxe-class guys (at least; can't be sure on Grimlock yet) have foot-pegs for TMs/PMs! (Snarl's seem to be on the inside of his spine-things-which-I-forget-the-name-of, so you'll have to flip them down like little platforms. I adore that.) It's not quite dino-saddles - though I still wouldn't put those out of the question yet either - but it's just yet another thing that gets me super-hyped for these dinos!

More annoyed the dinobots combine as it takes away from them. I know people want a Dino themed combiner but they could've made either a new team or use the pcc team and make them the combiner. Just takes away from who and what grimlock and Co are.

one prime is missing in the art, i checked

FireRoad wrote:one prime is missing in the art, i checked

If I had to guess... probably Optimus.


How does everyone feel about these symbols the Primes have now, actually? I think they're pretty cool.

Is it weird that Rippersnapper is the best looking of the four to me? He looks like a really neat generic Decepticon grunt. Hun-gurrr looks questionable, he really needs to be shown in color and without those feet on his arms for me to decide if I need Abominus. Moonracer looks rough. The limbs look too thin for her blocky torso and she appears to have a lot of junk in the trunk. And finally Optimus Primal. I think it's disheartening to see that the design team can't or doesn't want to improve designs even outside of G1. The Optimal Optimus robot mode has awful proportions and they could have tried to make them better ala the PE Beast Gorira. That being said I think everything else about him looks great. Does it suck that Primal doesn't turn into a monkey? Yes of course, but it does make for a neat homage to his Transmetal form.

Now that the reveals should be over shall we give some lists of all our wanted reveals?
Prime Masters: Micronus

Legends:
Beachcomber
Slash

Deluxes:
Dreadwind
Darkwing
Swoop
Slag
Rippersnapper

Voyagers:Grimlock

Leaders: Optimus Primal

Kurona wrote:

FireRoad wrote:one prime is missing in the art, i checked

If I had to guess... probably Optimus.


How does everyone feel about these symbols the Primes have now, actually? I think they're pretty cool.

I like 'em. Again, the Prime Masters being TR compatible is pretty awesome, as some of them (Liege Maximo especially) kinda look like abstract robot faces anyway.

I wonder how many people would have voted for Primal if they knew that the Primal toy they got would not turn into a gorilla.

Possible Thunderwing incoming?
Edit: turns out it's an abandoned concept for Megatronus deemed too obscure for regular release

I appreciate the inclusion of a hoverboard on Primal, but I think what I find most disappointing about this figure is that it doesn't LOOK like an improvement over the old Optimal Optimus toy. As much as I love the design, the toy is clunky as all hell. There was a third party remake of the figure put out recently that was so much more streamlined and stylized, taking full advantage of modern toy engineering. This looks no more articulated than the original 20-year-old figure. Hell, at the very least, I'd hoped that the canons would be able to retract into the chest

Kurona wrote:At the very least, some sort of plans or designs would have been drawn up for any possibility. Arcee or Hound winning were fairly - maybe extremely - unlikely, but I highly doubt a company as large, rich and successful like Hasbro would decide to completely discount it and be completely unprepared for the eventuality.

That of course assumes the poll wasnt rigged. All that design work for Primal suggests otherwise

SureShot18 wrote:Is it weird that Rippersnapper is the best looking of the four to me? He looks like a really neat generic Decepticon grunt.

He is the best looking of the four for the simple reason that he is exactly what fans hoped for. Taking cues from G1 and improving it as much as possible. Which in this case means making him look more lethal.

SureShot18 wrote:Is it weird that Rippersnapper is the best looking of the four to me? He looks like a really neat generic Decepticon grunt.

I think people would still have voted Primal simply because they wanted a classics primal for a long time, regardless of what he turned into. And plus, the art shown in the vote was him in a different body to his beast wars body so they kind of hinted at him having a different body all along.

As an update to the previous story about the new Transformers: Power of the Primes figures being shown at the Transformers area of Hascon, we have more images of the display cases with the same figures from different angles, and some new additions and alternate configurations for the likes of Starscream and his combined mode on the packaging art, Hot Rod / Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime / Orion Pax, Dinobot Slash, the Blackwing and Dreadwind jets in their combined mode. Check out the images below!

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:At the very least, some sort of plans or designs would have been drawn up for any possibility. Arcee or Hound winning were fairly - maybe extremely - unlikely, but I highly doubt a company as large, rich and successful like Hasbro would decide to completely discount it and be completely unprepared for the eventuality.

That of course assumes the poll wasnt rigged. All that design work for Primal suggests otherwise.

Or they could have done up designs for all 9 candidates. Considering we've had Hasbro reps say previously that there's been a lot of planning and development towards the next few years, I wouldn't find that too hard to believe.

Why would Hasbro even have put out the poll if they were just going to rig it; especially when it isn't as in-depth and appealing as a make-a-new-character poll or as significant as choosing the next Titan?

Moonracer,Rippersnapper,Hun-garr,and Primal all look fantastic can not wait to get them.

Va'al wrote:As an update to the previous story about the new Transformers: Power of the Primes figures being shown at the Transformers area of Hascon, we have more images of the display cases with the same figures from different angles, and some new additions and alternate configurations for the likes of Starscream and his combined mode on the packaging art, Hot Rod / Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime / Orion Pax, Dinobot Slash, the Blackwing and Dreadwind jets in their combined mode. Check out the images below!

looks like the Hotrod part of RP might be bigger than expected. makes me wonder if he'll scale well with TR Galvatron.

That deluxe Hot Rod is freaken amazing looking. I cant believe he looks so dead on for a toy that is supposedly quite simple in design.

I was staring at the Rodimus renders earlier today wondering how on earth the arms were supposed to connect in evolved mode. And now I get my answer! ... parts-forming! Yay...

Still, Hot Rod himself looks incredible. That one render shown on the slideshow back at SDCC had me a bit ambivalent about him, but he looks downright perfect here with his smooth angles, the finish on his chest and helmet, that spot-on facesculpt... and, most importantly, the very visible and very cool-looking spoiler! I almost regret getting the Titans Return figure!

If they ever want to temmper their G1 fetish down a bit - I'd love to see a CW compatible Dinobot Team where the Limbs & Torso are based on the PCC Dinobots - not to mention I'd be happy to see them keep cranking these out for years - I'd also like CW style versions of all the Kreo combiners too.

Heck several of the other PCC Designs would make very interesting toys at the different scale too, the advantage is we'd get expansions to existing premises (Like Dinobots & Constructicons) and yet also get new Characters - also a 5 part Construction combiner has repaint/remould potential for Takara to make into a version of 6 Builder or The Autobot Build team too.

But If they made that cute little Armoured Car or half track into a brand new robot that would be delightful or what about the Monster truck as a Voyager.

People keep hoping they'd make at least some new toys for a change and not just nostalgia farm exclusively - but perhaps you can get a "new toy feeling" by nostaliga farming more obscure things - as was done with Overlord I guess.

Also I do still really want a Proper Thunderwing sometime - so I hope it's not off the table for Prima or Megatronus to be the basis for him in some form - heck the existing mould or a new oner - either is really going to suit him as if you do an IDW's version you can make him a Torso unit and function like a true Mega Pretender too (pretty much). Or they could go for a more G1 look and use the Overlord mould family as the base (Prima looks quite close already). I don't mind if it's an exclusive or a boxed set or if it even take 2 years to show up _ I just think he's super appropriate.

Kind alike I wouldn't mind a CW Sunstorm sometime down the road too.

Kurona wrote:I was staring at the Rodimus renders earlier today wondering how on earth the arms were supposed to connect in evolved mode. And now I get my answer! ... parts-forming! Yay...

Still, Hot Rod himself looks incredible. That one render shown on the slideshow back at SDCC had me a bit ambivalent about him, but he looks downright perfect here with his smooth angles, the finish on his chest and helmet, that spot-on facesculpt... and, most importantly, the very visible and very cool-looking spoiler! I almost regret getting the Titans Return figure!

i dont see any reason for regret. look how big Hot Rod looks next to Blackwing (or is that Dreadwind). Hot Rod looks a bit bigger than a deluxe to me, possibly voyager size. I really want to see him in a side by side with Voyager Starscream or Galvatron now

You know, I've been thinking about it, and you know what that Rippersnapper would be great retooled as? A deluxe Repugnus. Am I right?

grimdragon2001 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I was staring at the Rodimus renders earlier today wondering how on earth the arms were supposed to connect in evolved mode. And now I get my answer! ... parts-forming! Yay...

Still, Hot Rod himself looks incredible. That one render shown on the slideshow back at SDCC had me a bit ambivalent about him, but he looks downright perfect here with his smooth angles, the finish on his chest and helmet, that spot-on facesculpt... and, most importantly, the very visible and very cool-looking spoiler! I almost regret getting the Titans Return figure!

i dont see any reason for regret. look how big Hot Rod looks next to Blackwing (or is that Dreadwind). Hot Rod looks a bit bigger than a deluxe to me, possibly voyager size. I really want to see him in a side by side with Voyager Starscream or Galvatron now

Honestly... that actually helps. Not for everyone of course, but for me being between deluxe and voyager just works for Hot Rod to me.

I think about the only things I prefer about TR Hot Rod now are the colour scheme and the fact he has a cockpit. Then again, I don't think I've seen this version's car mode alone yet...

We recently posted the artwork featured on the cards and box art for the Power of the Primes Dinobots and it was missing Slash, the fifth Dinobot. Well, we have it now. These were sent to us from various Twitter and Facebook posts with the original source not pinpointed down yet. But we would rather show these to you as soon as possible. You will also see the artwork for Orion Pax and Optimus Primal. It is unknown if that means the leader toy will come with two cards or not. Last, but certainly not least, is the most awesome shot of Cloudburst ever drawn in Transformers history. You have to see it!

Kurona wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I was staring at the Rodimus renders earlier today wondering how on earth the arms were supposed to connect in evolved mode. And now I get my answer! ... parts-forming! Yay...

Still, Hot Rod himself looks incredible. That one render shown on the slideshow back at SDCC had me a bit ambivalent about him, but he looks downright perfect here with his smooth angles, the finish on his chest and helmet, that spot-on facesculpt... and, most importantly, the very visible and very cool-looking spoiler! I almost regret getting the Titans Return figure!

i dont see any reason for regret. look how big Hot Rod looks next to Blackwing (or is that Dreadwind). Hot Rod looks a bit bigger than a deluxe to me, possibly voyager size. I really want to see him in a side by side with Voyager Starscream or Galvatron now

Honestly... that actually helps. Not for everyone of course, but for me being between deluxe and voyager just works for Hot Rod to me.

I think about the only things I prefer about TR Hot Rod now are the colour scheme and the fact he has a cockpit. Then again, I don't think I've seen this version's car mode alone yet...

yea, i wish the trailer still had its battle station mode, but even as it is, i might just display the Hot Rod part as Rodimus Prime while having TR/Legends Hot Rod as Hot Rod

I really love this artwork.

Man, now I wish we had a full on deluxe cloudburst that looked like this!

Isn't there another panel going on right now?

First the gun mode, now this. Why did they all of a sudden decide to make Cloudburst awesome?

Those pastel symbols floating around their heads look like they're high on Lucky Charms or under a My Little Pony's spell.

steals_your_goats wrote:Isn't there another panel going on right now?

It's effectively the same exact content, repeated for those unable to attend Friday.

Hey, look at this awesome pose Cloudburst can't actually do!

I may need that PotP Optimus Prime.....I didn't expect that desire. Rodimus is still a mist-have.

I'll probably end up with just about everything in this line.

I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

Ok, let's look at King Starscream here:



Observation: Dreadwind is an arm... and he uses Rippersnapper as a leg.
Hypothesis: He's a spare torso like regular CW Optimus Prime, Cyclonus, and non-box set Scattershot.

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

And isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design?

So... he's an opportunist who will use anyone to get a leg up or stay an arm's length ahead?

Va'al wrote:So... he's an opportunist who will use anyone to get a leg up or stay an arm's length ahead?

You have no idea on how loudly I groaned at that. Yet it's so true, if given the chance

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Va'al wrote:So... he's an opportunist who will use anyone to get a leg up or stay an arm's length ahead?

You have no idea on how loudly I groaned at that. Yet it's so true, if given the chance

I think I heard something. May have been thunder.

Well Hot Rod/ Rodimus Prime is now an Insta buy, and I'm actually considering getting Slash.

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design? (Still, your point stands )

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP


Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design? (Still, your point stands )

Very true - though since that design is based on and has very few differences to the original (the only real difference noticeable on the toy would be the shoulder pads), I still count it. Maybe I'm just weird