NYCC 2016 Gallery: Robots in Disguise Combiner Force

So Energon Power Link guys had individual bot modes. Do these guys? Or are they totally Doucons?

And if that's not Bludgeon, I'm a unkey's muncle!

Cobotron wrote:So Energon Power Link guys had individual bot modes. Do these guys? Or are they totally Doucons?

And if that's not Bludgeon, I'm a unkey's muncle!

Individual bot modes. You can see it in the back of the optimus/strongarm box

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Note to the masses reading: That is not Bludgeon. It is an Autobot bounty hunter named Blastwave

Shockblast's long lost brother!

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:So Energon Power Link guys had individual bot modes. Do these guys? Or are they totally Doucons?

And if that's not Bludgeon, I'm a unkey's muncle!

Individual bot modes. You can see it in the back of the optimus/strongarm box

Where is that picture? I just perused the gallery and didn't see it.

Edit: Nevermind. Found it. COOL!!!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wow...
(Drift may work for my Lost Light shelf to go with the RiD Ratchet!)

I'm having similar thoughts about Drift and Ratchet. Wonder if it will be possible to change Drift's head though.

If the Hasbros were going to release a G1 colored Drift why did they not use the alternate head that was used by Takara?

Will this be another Combiner Wars Afterburner situation? (For the unknowing when the figure was first shown he had the Groove head instead of the proper Afterburner head the figure actually had)

Umbra wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wow...
(Drift may work for my Lost Light shelf to go with the RiD Ratchet!)

I'm having similar thoughts about Drift and Ratchet. Wonder if it will be possible to change Drift's head though.

I'm not sure. I'd need to look at my Drift but off the top of my head, I'd say it's not easy.

But even so, having Ratchet and Drift from the same toyline and in the same style will be really cool.

The other video round-up from the Hasbro preview night at New York Comic Con 2016 focuses on the Transformers: Robots in Disguise - and the Duocon-like Combiner Force sub-line as revealed here and here - featuring the likes of Drift, Stormshot, Bludgeon, Blastwave and the regulars Optimus Prime, Sideswipe, Strongarm and Bumblebee. Check it out embedded below!

I like the look of that Duocon

Bludgeon is just a retool of Megatronus

& Stealth Force Bee, Sideswipe & Strongarm......why? why use this gimmick again that was already used before with the Bayformer toyline(& i don't think that it was well received back then either).

Honestly not a fan of a single one of these (that's fine if you do - not saying they're bad, just not something I'm into) but I'm not complaining, because I do want almost everything from Titans Return. This is just a sigh of relief for my bank account for now.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:The new one is the only combiner force dude that looks good. Probably because they're original characters made for the line and their vehicle modes are sacrificed for it.

Agreed there. At least the combined robot mode is pretty cool

That would be the one I get out of all of the combiner force guys, he looks really good. Reminds me of Star Sabre.

In the video when the jet legs are combined with the prime torso I got an Armada Jet Prime vibe.

Wondering if there's a boj to combine all 6 ala Landcross.....

You may have already heard that Clampdown is being classified as a Legion, while Springload is a One-Step. That being said, I'm curious to know if these guys will eventually show up at this year's NYCC in their Warrior forms? Will we finally get to see the Con's that we've finally been dying for since 2015 in all Legion, One-Step, and Warrior classes altogether? I'm currently referring to the Cons in Season 1 and 2. What will Hasbro tell us about Seasons 3 and 4?

psj333 wrote:You may have already heard that Clampdown is being classified as a Legion, while Springload is a One-Step. That being said, I'm curious to know if these guys will eventually show up at this year's NYCC in their Warrior forms?

It's very likely we won't be seeing warrior molds of either of these guys. Sorry psj, it's based on popularity with kids and Autobots always win in that arena, or at least the executives and designers think so.

I gotta say, I'm really loving Stormshot. I don't know why, but I really want him.

And I'm psyched about the eventual Bludgeon figure from Blastwave!

After the several photos sent to us directly from the Hasbro area at New York Comic Con 2016 for the upcoming Robots in Disguise line and its new Combiner Force direction, we have the official images from Hasbro themselves, featuring the likes of Bumblebee, Sideswipe and Strongarm, with newcomer Activators Stuntwing, Great Byte and Trickout. Check out the renders below, showing off the combined modes as well as the indivual ones!

UPDATED with images for the second version of Bumblebee and Strongarm, Optimus Prime, plus new character Skysledge, Stormhammer and a sample of combinations!

Strongarm... you just got an incredible scout toy; why did you have to... no, Strongarm... babe... that's not a good look.



I can't believe Ironhide is a mini-con

News updated with more images!

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ted/36494/

They totally combined Optimus with Strongarm just so they could put Strongarm's forehead crest on Optimus's helmet just so they could do a Star Convoy homage, didn't they.

Its too bad they didnt give us pics for the Warrior Class, thats what I wanted to see most.

Sabrblade wrote:They totally combined Optimus with Strongarm just so they could put Strongarm's forehad crest on Optimus's helmet just so they could do a Star Convoy homage, didn't they.

Hasbro's been all over that guy recently. It's not a bad thing, but it is mighty confusing.

william-james88 wrote:Its too bad they didnt give us pics for the Warrior Class, thats what I wanted to see most.

Same. I don't need more renders of Combiner Force to know they're terrible, gimme Stormshot!

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its too bad they didnt give us pics for the Warrior Class, thats what I wanted to see most.

Same. I don't need more renders of Combiner Force to know they're terrible, gimme Stormshot!

I am not sold on stormshot though. While Starscream had a nice levelof complexity to his transformation, this guy seems very basic, reminding me almost of a combiner wars jet.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its too bad they didnt give us pics for the Warrior Class, thats what I wanted to see most.

Same. I don't need more renders of Combiner Force to know they're terrible, gimme Stormshot!

I am not sold on stormshot though. While Starscream had a nice levelof complexity to his transformation, this guy seems very basic, reminding me almost of a combiner wars jet.

Maybe... but he still looks cool.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its too bad they didnt give us pics for the Warrior Class, thats what I wanted to see most.

Same. I don't need more renders of Combiner Force to know they're terrible, gimme Stormshot!

I am not sold on stormshot though. While Starscream had a nice levelof complexity to his transformation, this guy seems very basic, reminding me almost of a combiner wars jet.

Maybe... but he still looks cool.

Robot mode looks good, I wont deny it.

And to be frank, jet mode looks pretty good. I like the reference to real life jets.



I just dont like how unoriginal that transformation is and that plays a big factor for me.

Combiner Force? Just say Powerlink.

ARG! So frustrated by the fact that I have absolutely no need or desire for those big clunky toys, but their minicons are truly amazing!

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Combiner Force? Just say Powerlink.

How about Multi-on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l5_940iUeI

I think those Combiner Force would be more interesting if they made a few more of them with the likes of Drift, Jazz, Ratchet & maybe Windblade in the line.

But I expect what you see is all there is going to be - and they will vanish like the Minicon compatible scout sized ones.

Oh and the seem to have renamed One-steps I notice.
But regardless what they call them did we really need 3 Bumblebee & 3 Optimus One Step Moulds ?

I like all the new Autobot Jets - if they'd not got so greedy and actually just made Bludgeon I'd have been interested - but the chances of RID being around long enough to actually release a Bludgeon toy seems slim - perhaps Takara might do it though. - And would it have offended some Toy god of something to have at least pre-paint it as Banzai-tron instead of a very inappropriate Autobot.

Combiner Force is very eeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. At least the warriors are good, can't wait for their renders!

The combiner force stuff seems to go along with the one steps and 3 steps as being more for small kids. I like how they crash into eachother for them to become a big bot.

I wonder if they copied the idea of a Chinese car toy they sell on Sirtoys.com where you have a couple of cars that collide and turn into a snake or some-such.

RAR wrote:I wonder if they copied the idea of a Chinese car toy they sell on Sirtoys.com where you have a couple of cars that collide and turn into a snake or some-such.

That only sounds vaguely similar and even then i doubt they copied it since they Hasbro did something similar in Energon and putting two things to turn into a bigger thing is not an original concept.

Also Bot Shots had a collision based transformation.

Cobotron wrote:Also Bot Shots had a collision based transformation.

Those new minicons remind me of botshots actually.

Deadput wrote:

RAR wrote:I wonder if they copied the idea of a Chinese car toy they sell on Sirtoys.com where you have a couple of cars that collide and turn into a snake or some-such.

That only sounds vaguely similar and even then i doubt they copied it since they Hasbro did something similar in Energon and putting two things to turn into a bigger thing is not an original concept.

It wasn't an original concept in Energon either, as it's the main basis for Victory's MultiForce

Everyone's favourite Seibertronian, Cobotron, has gotten his mits on the most recent Robots in Disguise toys: Warriors Ratchet and Bisk. He has given us a review of them full of in hand images. Enjoy!




So, I some how stumbled onto Robots In Disguise Warrior Class Wave 9. I found them at a Walmart in suburban Omaha. This wave includes the two new releases Ratchet and Bisk. It also reprises Scorponok, Power Surge Optimus Prime, Drift, and the repaint of Quillfire as Scatterspike.

I picked up Ratchet and Bisk, as well as Scorponok because to the best of my knowledge, Wave 8 has not shown up in my area.

Let's have a look at Ratchet, yeah?



His bot mode is outstanding! This is a great representation of this old stand by. With no knowledge of how he will be portrayed in the show, there is no doubt who he is supposed to be. From the classic windshield chest, to the iconic color scheme and head crest, to the grumpy old expression of his displeased turned down frown. Yup! That's Ratchet!



His articulation is good. Joints are all tight, and his stability is good due to his feet having an enormous surface area. He is as solid as his mold allows him to be. The inclusion of his two pistols is a cool nod to the past while being a really nice modern update in character design.


Hang in there Swipe. You're gonna make it.



His head sculpt is awesome. It hits all those old classic design ques, but keeps up with the current look of the new RID. And HOLY SMOKES! Look at those eyes!

Of course we all know by now that Ratchet is a retool of the Strongarm mold. And a HEAVY one at that.



I would say about 40% of their parts are shared, but at least 85% of those parts have been re-sculpted with new detail. Even the hands and forearms (which are mostly hidden) have been re-detailed.
I should note that I have added some paint to my Strongarm, which is why she differs from the normal Hasbro release.



The only shame in this retooling is that they have done away with those nice posable feet of Strongarm's.


Alt mode


The alt mode is were the lack of paint is most apparent, but the mode itself is fantastic for the old gurney bot. Sure I want to see Ratchet as a van type vehicle, but this truck will do just fine. The retooling has altered the transformation a bit. Mostly in the legs / rear of the truck. The panels forming the front end have some gaps, but everything pegs together nicely.



Decent weapons storage in the under carriage.











All in all he is a really fun update to this classic old bot. I've heard some excitement about this toy working as a good MTMTE Ratchet. Sure! Heck he could even make for a good Classics Ratchet. The cool thing about using the ol' imagination noodle, is anything's possible!


Now for the mold I think people are most excited for.

Bisk



This is another one of those RID Warrior class figures that just nails it. He captures the funky posture and gesture of this wild character perfectly. His articulation is great. I'm not sure why or where he would need any more paint. The claws work out really well, and although seemingly a tad after thoughty, the way he holds those cool little blasters works just fine.



A face only a mother could love.

His head is molded out of a soft rubbery plastic so it can kind of contort into it's place in alt mode with no risk of breaking.







Bisk's alt mode is all the dope with a spackling of totally RAD!


His transformation is FANTASTIC! Right on par with Thunderhoof and Fracture. I'm sure he will be considered as one of the best of the year from the RID line.





Alt mode weapon integration




Bisk is a great Transformers toy that I highly recommend. Even if your not a Robots In Disguise fan. Who wouldn't want to ad this freaky beast faced bot to their Decepticon ranks?
There is an old Decepticon adage that states: It's better to have lobsters on your piano, than crabs on your organ. They're talking about Bisk.

Toys are fun! Toys FOREVER!

Thanks a lot for the pictures, you've definitely got me interested in Ratchet. I do rather hope Reprolabels might hit this guy up though to do something about the alt mode.

I am pleasantly surprised by the Decepticon forces for RID. I have no attachment to the cartoon, but the toys are too good to pass up.

Shame these are going to be hard to find in my area. My walmart finally got a new case but it's of five power surge Optomi and a few drifts and Windblades. Last time I checked that store was in November last year and they still had Offroad.

Nice review by the way, I always like these pictorial reviews over videos just because of how much more you an do with these. I've also got a question for you, does Ratchet's weapons attach anywhere else for an "attack mode"?

Both are really good looking toys. I can't wait to find these guys in store!

william-james88 wrote:Everyone's favourite Seibertronian, Cobotron, has gotten his mits on the most recent Robots in Disguise toys: Warriors Ratchet and Bisk. He has given us a review of them full of in hand images. Enjoy!




So, I some how stumbled onto Robots In Disguise Warrior Class Wave 9. I found them at a Walmart in suburban Omaha. This wave includes the two new releases Ratchet and Bisk. It also reprises Scorponok, Power Surge Optimus Prime, Drift, and the repaint of Quillfire as Scatterspike.

I picked up Ratchet and Bisk, as well as Scorponok because to the best of my knowledge, Wave 8 has not shown up in my area.

Let's have a look at Ratchet, yeah?



His bot mode is outstanding! This is a great representation of this old stand by. With no knowledge of how he will be portrayed in the show, there is no doubt who he is supposed to be. From the classic windshield chest, to the iconic color scheme and head crest, to the grumpy old expression of his displeased turned down frown. Yup! That's Ratchet!



His articulation is good. Joints are all tight, and his stability is good due to his feet having an enormous surface area. He is as solid as his mold allows him to be. The inclusion of his two pistols is a cool nod to the past while being a really nice modern update in character design.


Hang in there Swipe. You're gonna make it.



His head sculpt is awesome. It hits all those old classic design ques, but keeps up with the current look of the new RID. And HOLY SMOKES! Look at those eyes!

Of course we all know by now that Ratchet is a retool of the Strongarm mold. And a HEAVY one at that.



I would say about 40% of their parts are shared, but at least 85% of those parts have been re-sculpted with new detail. Even the hands and forearms (which are mostly hidden) have been re-detailed.
I should note that I have added some paint to my Strongarm, which is why she differs from the normal Hasbro release.



The only shame in this retooling is that they have done away with those nice posable feet of Strongarm's.


Alt mode


The alt mode is were the lack of paint is most apparent, but the mode itself is fantastic for the old gurney bot. Sure I want to see Ratchet as a van type vehicle, but this truck will do just fine. The retooling has altered the transformation a bit. Mostly in the legs / rear of the truck. The panels forming the front end have some gaps, but everything pegs together nicely.



Decent weapons storage in the under carriage.











All in all he is a really fun update to this classic old bot. I've heard some excitement about this toy working as a good MTMTE Ratchet. Sure! Heck he could even make for a good Classics Ratchet. The cool thing about using the ol' imagination noodle, is anything's possible!


Now for the mold I think people are most excited for.

Bisk



This is another one of those RID Warrior class figures that just nails it. He captures the funky posture and gesture of this wild character perfectly. His articulation is great. I'm not sure why or where he would need any more paint. The claws work out really well, and although seemingly a tad after thoughty, the way he holds those cool little blasters works just fine.



A face only a mother could love.

His head is molded out of a soft rubbery plastic so it can kind of contort into it's place in alt mode with no risk of breaking.







Bisk's alt mode is all the dope with a spackling of totally RAD!


His transformation is FANTASTIC! Right on par with Thunderhoof and Fracture. I'm sure he will be considered as one of the best of the year from the RID line.





Alt mode weapon integration




Bisk is a great Transformers toy that I highly recommend. Even if your not a Robots In Disguise fan. Who wouldn't want to ad this freaky beast faced bot to their Decepticon ranks?
There is an old Decepticon adage that states: It's better to have lobsters on your piano, than crabs on your organ. They're talking about Bisk.

Toys are fun! Toys FOREVER!

Ratchet deffo needs more paint in vehicle mode!(Takara get on that please)

& is it me? or does Bisk vehicle mode look like a TF Prime Vehicon? even the weapons placement in vehicle mode is similar to that of a Vehicon(well...at least on the TF Prime show) + with Thermidor his colours will prob even look more closer to that of a Vehicon.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ratchet deffo needs more paint in vehicle mode!(Takara get on that please)

& is it me? or does Bisk vehicle mode look like a TF Prime Vehicon? even the weapons placement in vehicle mode is similar to that of a Vehicon(well...at least on the TF Prime show) + with Thermidor his colours will prob even look more closer to that of a Vehicon.

Here is what the Takara version of both look like:








Really not that many differences, so Ratchet is meant to look like that in both versions.

And Bisk does look a bit like a vehicon as in they both are sporty cars and the weapons placement is the same, but they are drastically different figures. Plus, Bisk is much more sleek than the vehicon in alt mode

Bisk looks amazing, can't wait to find him

I SERIOUSLY hope Bisk comes out over here, 'cause he looks superb. That car mode, those claws, the headsculpt...just perfect.

I'll prob wait for Thermidor, as i prefer Thermidor's colours

In much the same way that i got Paralon! coz i preferred his colours over that of Scorponok.

Terrsolpix wrote: does Ratchet's weapons attach anywhere else for an "attack mode"?

Unfortunately, no. Just underneath.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ratchet deffo needs more paint in vehicle mode!(Takara get on that please)

& is it me? or does Bisk vehicle mode look like a TF Prime Vehicon? even the weapons placement in vehicle mode is similar to that of a Vehicon(well...at least on the TF Prime show) + with Thermidor his colours will prob even look more closer to that of a Vehicon.

Ya, I thought that too. He does look a bit like a Vehicon. Especially with the Cadillac-like head lights and grill.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ratchet deffo needs more paint in vehicle mode!(Takara get on that please)

& is it me? or does Bisk vehicle mode look like a TF Prime Vehicon? even the weapons placement in vehicle mode is similar to that of a Vehicon(well...at least on the TF Prime show) + with Thermidor his colours will prob even look more closer to that of a Vehicon.

Here is what the Takara version of both look like:








Really not that many differences, so Ratchet is meant to look like that in both versions.

And Bisk does look a bit like a vehicon as in they both are sporty cars and the weapons placement is the same, but they are drastically different figures. Plus, Bisk is much more sleek than the vehicon in alt mode

Well...*sigh*...that's a bit of a disappointment(Ratchet) but as someone already stated....maybe we'll get reprolabels for him

Cobotron wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote: does Ratchet's weapons attach anywhere else for an "attack mode"?

Unfortunately, no. Just underneath.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ratchet deffo needs more paint in vehicle mode!(Takara get on that please)

& is it me? or does Bisk vehicle mode look like a TF Prime Vehicon? even the weapons placement in vehicle mode is similar to that of a Vehicon(well...at least on the TF Prime show) + with Thermidor his colours will prob even look more closer to that of a Vehicon.

Ya, I thought that too. He does look a bit like a Vehicon. Especially with the Cadillac-like head lights and grill.

Steve retired and became an avid gamer and then got bored with that, and - after a quick paint job - became the mascot for Red Lobster, now he enjoy's a very wholesome life playing golf



In other news, that Ratchet would make a killer Cannonball, dammit hasbro give us an amazing Cannonball already

Cobotron wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote: does Ratchet's weapons attach anywhere else for an "attack mode"?

Unfortunately, no. Just underneath.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ratchet deffo needs more paint in vehicle mode!(Takara get on that please)

& is it me? or does Bisk vehicle mode look like a TF Prime Vehicon? even the weapons placement in vehicle mode is similar to that of a Vehicon(well...at least on the TF Prime show) + with Thermidor his colours will prob even look more closer to that of a Vehicon.

Ya, I thought that too. He does look a bit like a Vehicon. Especially with the Cadillac-like head lights and grill.

even the cab section looks similar


Speaking of similarities.....Ratchet! that type of vehicle! i mean we know he's supposed to be the one from TF Prime(although god knows why they didn't carry over the vehicle mode paint apps from the PRID to this one) but another transformers figure that shares vehicle mode similarities even with paint apps....is Rescue Bots Medix, so i'm wondering if they took inspiration from PRID Ratchet for Medix?

+ we now know that both Rescue Bots & RID have crossed over....Sideswipe (well....at least in one direction).

I don't really care for Bisk himself, but that alt mode weapon placement is to die for.

Ratchet's still meeting my expectations. I'll be happy to pick him up once he makes his way here

I'm set with the Legion, but Bisk is looking really good!