New Weapon Sighted on Transformers 4 Detroit Set

First person who suggests it's the Star Saber get it.

wow... look at that sword.. this is gonna be the worst of the 4.

Plz don't tell me that's gonna b the star saber. And if it is, human sized....really?!

I'm hearing Blade of Time. Or whatever Vector Prime called it.

Also, holy shit. Batman is in this movie?!? Best crossover ever!

Don't forget the ninja turtles Lol. Another childhood favorite that he'll no doubt ruin too lol

My guess is, that it's not a sword at all, but it's more of a key. (cyber planet key?) something the size of a key to a transformer, would scale down to just about the size of a large sword in human scale. So yeah, you heard it here first, this is TOTALLY a cyber planet key....and it's going to cause some explosions and chasing, and inevitably someone will cry. (I hope I haven't spoiled the movie for anyone, ya know giving away the entire plot like that)

Yes indeed lol

dj kid prophet wrote:Plz don't tell me that's gonna b the star saber. And if it is, human sized....really?!

And this is exactly the kind of overreaction I predicted would happen.

It´s either a human size sword or a Transformer size key... a key to Vector Sigma, perhaps?

In response to sabrblade's reply to my comment. My statement is referring to the fact that they do these stories half ass. There is such great mythos, stories, etc in the source material than I've seen in any of the movies so far. Example, revenge of the fallen barely touched on the fallen. It could've been a much better movie if the source material was referenced more. Just saying. Star saber, omega lock key, whatever it may be, I hope they actually have a well put together story instead of putting an object from cybertronian history, down playing it, and Just putting explosions etc around it. Dig deep bay, there's better stories out there. Use them and make them better not lame

dj kid prophet wrote:I hope they actually have a well put together story instead of putting an object from cybertronian history, down playing it, and Just putting explosions etc around it. Dig deep bay, there's better stories out there. Use them and make them better not lame

You're a forever optimist aren't you? haha.

I've wished that each and every movie would START getting better, and I've set myself up for disappointment each time...granted none of the movies outright "sucked", but yeah...they were very "lackluster" for lack of a better word.

you're all wrong. it's a cocktail sword for an energon martini. blended and splendid.

Jack Hallows wrote:you're all wrong. it's a cocktail sword for an energon martini. blended and splendid.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Just seeing that sword gives me flash backs of Lord Megatron being snuk up on and slayed in tf prime. I want that sword to shot energy blast, that would be cool.

either the star saber can mass shift like the allspark or its a key. Or its megatrons toothpick

Well, I'll scoff at all the ideas thus far. Doesn't mean that one of them isn't actually correct, I'm just chaffing a bit at the idea of a human scale sword of Cybertronian origin. Granted, it is still a bad-ass looking sword. One idea that I suggested on Frenzy/Rumbles Facebook page when he posted this earlier is that it could be one of "Wheeljacks" (f*** Bay and his last minute name change to Que or whatever the hell it was) human sized weapons that he engineered for Sam and the NEST troops that had been recently rediscovered. That, to me, seems like a more plausible theory and one that doesn't just totally hose the whole continuity (such as it very loosely is) of the movies.

But sadly, this is the Movie-verse and there is going to be some horribly lame explanation of what this thing is.

I want a replica of it regardless of its back-story. That thing is wicked looking!

It reminds me of D'Argo's sword from Farscape.

Looks familiar...

Ah yes, just bland enough that the dozens of role-play toys of it won't be much of an eyesore as they continue to shelfwarm two years from now.

Hmmmm...if unicron is in this.that will be the thing that kills him.and marky mark ends up being the hero. ethier that or GASP! I'VE FIGURED IT OUT! HE'S REALY HE-MAN!!! that swords a dead give away..skeletor teams up with the cons..yup....

Caelus wrote:Looks familiar...

EXACTLY what i thought.

Ok...

Once again I feel compelled to throw my two cents in.

1) My vote is the Star Saber...I say that simply because it's so prevalent in MANY forms in the Transformers mythos.

2) Regarding human size... Come on people, did everyone forget the CAVERN-SIZED Allspark that became travel sized??

3) It looks badass regardless... In all honesty thought, even though it's small enough for a human to lug it around, it still seems kinda BIG overall.

Lastly, I want to say this... I KNOW Bay has left a bad taste in MANY of the older fans mouths out there, but there are many film adaptations I've seen in my life that have ripped at my VERY SOUL at times... Masters of the Universe, GI Joe (not horrible but subpar), Superman 3 and 4, and anything Marvel that's not made by Marvel comes to mind... But I will be the first to say that thanks to Bay I've gotten some cool toys (funny the coolest movie figs are none movie characters ) and he has allowed a resurgence of out beloved bots... Sure they'd still be here, but I DOUBT their presence would be as strong... SOOOO I kinda love and hate Bay at the same time.

To all my G1 bros and sis' out there I would say this...Can we PLEASE at least wait till the movie comes out to decide to rip it to pieces?? lol

It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

RAcast wrote:It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

That's an awfully big sword for that small of a hilt.

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

That's an awfully big sword for that small of a hilt.

Again, mass shifting. It's probably very light.

RAcast wrote:

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

That's an awfully big sword for that small of a hilt.

Again, mass shifting. It's probably very light.

Even if it weighed nothing it would be unwieldy to use one handed.

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

That's an awfully big sword for that small of a hilt.

Again, mass shifting. It's probably very light.

Even if it weighed nothing it would be unwieldy to use one handed.

Not if it were both light and well-balanced (which it can be assumed that it is, if Mark Wahlberg's character ends up using it as a weapon). Basically, if most of the weight is in the hilt, it would be entirely usable with ease.

Unless of course it's NOT well balanced and he just uses it as a club during the movie. We'll see when we see.

What makes a sword usable is less about the overall weight of the weapon, and more about how it's balanced. What's the weight ratio between the hilt and the blade?

RAcast wrote:

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

That's an awfully big sword for that small of a hilt.

Again, mass shifting. It's probably very light.

Even if it weighed nothing it would be unwieldy to use one handed.

Not if it were both light and well-balanced (which it can be assumed that it is, if Mark Wahlberg's character ends up using it as a weapon). Basically, if most of the weight is in the hilt, it would be entirely usable with ease.

Unless of course it's NOT well balanced and he just uses it as a club during the movie. We'll see when we see.

What makes a sword usable is less about the overall weight of the weapon, and more about how it's balanced. What's the weight ratio between the hilt and the blade?

I'm thinking about the breadth of the "thingy". Without using both hand it would be easier to injury yourself with it.

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:

njb902 wrote:

RAcast wrote:It's got a sword grip, so I doubt it's the Key to Vector Sigma. The Star Saber is the logical guess.

Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

That's an awfully big sword for that small of a hilt.

Again, mass shifting. It's probably very light.

Even if it weighed nothing it would be unwieldy to use one handed.

Not if it were both light and well-balanced (which it can be assumed that it is, if Mark Wahlberg's character ends up using it as a weapon). Basically, if most of the weight is in the hilt, it would be entirely usable with ease.

Unless of course it's NOT well balanced and he just uses it as a club during the movie. We'll see when we see.

What makes a sword usable is less about the overall weight of the weapon, and more about how it's balanced. What's the weight ratio between the hilt and the blade?

I'm thinking about the breadth of the "thingy". Without using both hand it would be easier to injury yourself with it.

...Yeah that would be a problem wouldn't it?

Forget the sword, why does that guy in the first picture have a skunk on a stick? I know they're called pole cats but that's taking it a bit too far.

RAcast wrote:Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

Movie sub-forum. Logic and common sense, and the thought of their precious beloved franchised being changed does not exist in this place.

Burn wrote:

RAcast wrote:Also, it probably mass shifts, why is this a foreign concept to TRANSFORMERS fans?

Movie sub-forum. Logic and common sense, and the thought of their precious beloved franchised being changed does not exist in this place.

That was a pretty sick...BURN.
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I think I know what it is. With Cybertron destroyed in DotM, I bet this is the key (shaped bizarrely like a sword) that unlock all Cybertronians' ability to hump! That's what this latest movie is about! All the sexual references in the previous movies makes sense now! Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg; Wheelie and Brains' obsession with Sam's porn, the Pretender girl - it all come to a head.

The Dinobots will symbolize the extinction of the Cybertronian race, and only Mark Wahlberg can unlock Prime's chastity belt in time to pitch woo at the last female Transformer - Bumblebee. Dreams are crushed, hopes are dashed, and I can't wait to skip the movie in theaters.

What? I pulled references from previous Transformers movies. My idea is just as valid as a planet key or the Star Saber.

Don't forget Kicker (a human ,an annoying human ) wields the "Energon Saber " in the series of Energon . This is how I believe it is going to be used .
Three small Mini-Con Bots ,that have been living with Flynn Vincent (Mark Wahlberg ) suddenly forms a sword in the face of apocalyptic destruction by the hands of Unicron . Flynn then takes the sword ,which gives him the ability to fly into space ,where he impales Unicron though his core ,while singing "You Got The Touch " . Bay Rocks
Also did anyone notice that a block of concrete seems to have an odd design on it .

Can't it just be an ordinary human-sized weapon made by the Autobots for their human allies to use? I mean, no one raised an eyebrow at all the Cybertronian-made human weaponry in DOTM (i.e. Sam's arm-mounted grappling hook), so why should thing be any different?

Remember in the mythology of Transformers is many WEAPONS, so it comes to no SUPRISE that some of these will be in the movie-verse.

Rather or not this is the Star Saber or Energon Sword or Dark Saber REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

Also look at DOTM, they made them the Grappling Hooks for Climing and the Remote Bombs that blew up Starscream.

Also, when you think about, it is Pefect sense to give Humans an edge or to be on PAR with fighting 50 to 100 Foot Tall Transformers which you couldnt do with CURRENT HUMAN TECH.

So Yeah I see more Cybertronian Human WEAPONS, such as in DOTM, so THIS ISNT A NEW DEAL IT WAS AN EXPECTED ONE.

I see more such as Requeim Blaster, Moon Shield others so EXPECT MORE.

datguy86 wrote:I think I know what it is. With Cybertron destroyed in DotM, I bet this is the key (shaped bizarrely like a sword) that unlock all Cybertronians' ability to hump! That's what this latest movie is about! All the sexual references in the previous movies makes sense now! Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg; Wheelie and Brains' obsession with Sam's porn, the Pretender girl - it all come to a head.

The Dinobots will symbolize the extinction of the Cybertronian race, and only Mark Wahlberg can unlock Prime's chastity belt in time to pitch woo at the last female Transformer - Bumblebee. Dreams are crushed, hopes are dashed, and I can't wait to skip the movie in theaters.

What? I pulled references from previous Transformers movies. My idea is just as valid as a planet key or the Star Saber.

Screw it! This is my leading theory now.

RhA wrote:

datguy86 wrote:I think I know what it is. With Cybertron destroyed in DotM, I bet this is the key (shaped bizarrely like a sword) that unlock all Cybertronians' ability to hump! That's what this latest movie is about! All the sexual references in the previous movies makes sense now! Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg; Wheelie and Brains' obsession with Sam's porn, the Pretender girl - it all come to a head.

The Dinobots will symbolize the extinction of the Cybertronian race, and only Mark Wahlberg can unlock Prime's chastity belt in time to pitch woo at the last female Transformer - Bumblebee. Dreams are crushed, hopes are dashed, and I can't wait to skip the movie in theaters.

What? I pulled references from previous Transformers movies. My idea is just as valid as a planet key or the Star Saber.

Screw it! This is my leading theory now.

My day is made! Thanks to RhA and the Firecons.

devlingrey wrote:Forget the sword, why does that guy in the first picture have a skunk on a stick? I know they're called pole cats but that's taking it a bit too far.

i think a production guy's wig got stuck on the mic boon.