New Voyager Optimus Prime and Bonecrusher Coming to the Transformers Studio Series Line

william-james88 wrote:Since the SS series is quite young ad wont get a top 5 list for a while, I am thinking of doing an article showing their rank. Like Wave 1 from best to worst. But you know what, its kinda tricky. BB is at the end, Grimlock, Starscream and Barricade are in top 3 and the rest is all kind of muddied. Like not really sure who is better between Stinger, Ratchet, Crowbar and Optimus. They are all ok but not phenominal and all have really obvious flaws.

That’s a really accurate assessment, but I’d say OP is better than just “okay.” Out of all of them, its Blackout, Starscream, and Prime that I keep going back to. He’s a lot of fun to mess with. I’d put his balance and playability above Ratchet, Stinger, and Crowbar. Although Crowbar is definitely a lot of fun.

william-james88 wrote:The TFCN Facebook page had a listing for an upcoming Bonecrucher toy but since it was using a placeholder shadow image of the older deluxe toy, we waited until further proof before newsing. Well, it only took one day and now we have proof of an upcoming voyager Bonecrusher as part of the Transformers Studio Series line. Funny enough, he comes to us as one in a pair of new listings with the other new listing being none other than the bot who destroyed him, Optimus Prime. The code is different from the voyager Optimus Prime from wave 1 so it is most probably him in a new body (probably his Transformers The Last Knight body). Or it might just be a redeco of the wave 1 voyager, just as the upcoming Sarscream toy is simply a redeco of the wave 1 voyager.

The info comes to us from Mr Chaos who provided many early codes and listings in the past. This is what he shared on the TFW2005 boards:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

If they're smart, Hasbro/Takara should just release Battle Blades Optimus Prime again with a premium, screen accurate paint job. That would rock my world. If that were the case, I'd probably bite and start collecting the Studio Series line. Right now, though, the current Studio Series Voyager Optimus is just a complete disappointment.

Wolfman Jake wrote:If they're smart, Hasbro/Takara should just release Battle Blades Optimus Prime again with a premium, screen accurate paint job. That would rock my world. If that were the case, I'd probably bite and start collecting the Studio Series line. Right now, though, the current Studio Series Voyager Optimus is just a complete disappointment.

Is he even the right colours? I have lots of problems with this toy (why fake parts on a character full of obvious kibble?!) but the part I find so weird are the colours. I keep having the impression that the red is bright on screen (similar to the ROTF toy) and yet this toy has the red be burgundy. Where does that come from? He looks much much darker, almost as if they are tryingto simulate the lighting filter they use on the character models for a night scene.

Considering things I'd guess the new optimus is a remould of the SS one for the DOTM design (aka 2007/ROTF with new abs)

Please please please please let it be a DOTM Optimus.

I hope this Optimus is either the AoE design, or a recolor of the first Optimus into his DotM color scheme with the yellow and dark blue.

Edit: Seems some others agree with DotM Optimus, lol. I hope he would have the trailer as well, but I think that would only make sense as an exclusive box set or something.

They could put the trailer in but price him as a leader but as it stands I think it's going to be a redco, now the question would be if its display could link with bonecrushers

Question... who is Sarscream?

Sweet! I hope Bonecrusher is a bigger (or at least wider) voyager like Starscream, OP was too small IMO.

Guessing the OP is the same mold with the abs from DotM, and possibly different accessories (his three-barreled gun would make sense).

BONECRUSHER!?!?



FINALLY!!!!!

A VOYAGER BONECRUSHER!

william-james88 wrote: news blah blah voyager Bonecrusher blah blah news

william-james88 wrote: blah voyager Bonecrusher blah

william-james88 wrote:voyager Bonecrusher

william-james88 wrote:voyager Bonecrusher

HELLS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Also, totally calling it right now: that Prime is DotM Prime complete with axe and new abs, and that is what the new background was for, not Megs or Sentinel.

william-james88 wrote:Since the SS series is quite young ad wont get a top 5 list for a while, I am thinking of doing an article showing their rank. Like Wave 1 from best to worst. But you know what, its kinda tricky. BB is at the end, Grimlock, Starscream and Barricade are in top 3 and the rest is all kind of muddied. Like not really sure who is better between Stinger, Ratchet, Crowbar and Optimus. They are all ok but not phenominal and all have really obvious flaws.

My best to worst vote would be for:
1. Blackout (wicked cool helicopter)
2. Grimlock (weak tail section)
3. Starscream
4. Ratchet (terrible color, but not the toys fault)
5. Stinger
6. Optimus Prime
7. Crowbar (the "hair" gimmick is awful)
8. Bumblebee

So here is my fix for Grimlock:






Wow, lots of hate for the bee.... here is how I would rate the figures.

1) Starscream
2) Blackout
3) Bumblebee
4) Optimus
5) Stinger
6) Ratchet
7) Grimlock
Crowbar
999) Thundercracker

Woah Ironhidensh, I can't make heads or tails of that. How is Bb so much better thanGrimlock and why do you hate thundetcracker so much?

william-james88 wrote:The TFCN Facebook page had a listing for an upcoming Bonecrucher toy but since it was using a placeholder shadow image of the older deluxe toy, we waited until further proof before newsing. Well, it only took one day and now we have proof of an upcoming voyager Bonecrusher as part of the Transformers Studio Series line. Funny enough, he comes to us as one in a pair of new listings with the other new listing being none other than the bot who destroyed him, Optimus Prime. The code is different from the voyager Optimus Prime from wave 1 so it is most probably him in a new body (probably his Transformers The Last Knight body). Or it might just be a redeco of the wave 1 voyager, just as the upcoming Sarscream toy is simply a redeco of the wave 1 voyager.

The info comes to us from Mr Chaos who provided many early codes and listings in the past. This is what he shared on the TFW2005 boards:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

Wait... there's a Starscream redeco coming? I missed that apparently...
Probably just a tat'd up DOTM thing I guess. Saw to replace the missile thingy?

shajaki wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The TFCN Facebook page had a listing for an upcoming Bonecrucher toy but since it was using a placeholder shadow image of the older deluxe toy, we waited until further proof before newsing. Well, it only took one day and now we have proof of an upcoming voyager Bonecrusher as part of the Transformers Studio Series line. Funny enough, he comes to us as one in a pair of new listings with the other new listing being none other than the bot who destroyed him, Optimus Prime. The code is different from the voyager Optimus Prime from wave 1 so it is most probably him in a new body (probably his Transformers The Last Knight body). Or it might just be a redeco of the wave 1 voyager, just as the upcoming Sarscream toy is simply a redeco of the wave 1 voyager.

The info comes to us from Mr Chaos who provided many early codes and listings in the past. This is what he shared on the TFW2005 boards:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

Wait... there's a Starscream redeco coming? I missed that apparently...
Probably just a tat'd up DOTM thing I guess. Saw to replace the missile thingy?

It'll probably have his awful Cybertronian "tribal tattoos" from RotF and DotM. Yuck. I'm so tempted to grab Wave 1 Studio Series Starscream. He's the Starscream I always wanted when I was collecting movie figures. Voyager sized, good mold, and in the first movie colors. I sold off my movie collection a few years ago...and I don't really want to start collecting them again...but then again, I kinda do >.<

william-james88 wrote:Since the SS series is quite young ad wont get a top 5 list for a while, I am thinking of doing an article showing their rank. Like Wave 1 from best to worst. But you know what, its kinda tricky. BB is at the end, Grimlock, Starscream and Barricade are in top 3 and the rest is all kind of muddied. Like not really sure who is better between Stinger, Ratchet, Crowbar and Optimus. They are all ok but not phenominal and all have really obvious flaws.

There's a Studio Series Barricade?

Why hasn't anyone noticed this yet?

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

TRA MV6 as in Transformers Movie 6, AKA the Bumblebee Movie. Don't get too excited until you see them, they'll likely be based on '80s alt modes.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Why hasn't anyone noticed this yet?

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

TRA MV6 as in Transformers Movie 6, AKA the Bumblebee Movie. Don't get too excited until you see them, they'll likely be based on '80s alt modes.

Emerje

Oh, damn! It was right there the whole time. I have a bad feeling you're right, Emerje, and these two will turn out to be versions from the upcoming Bumblebee movie. There's a chance, though, that they're just being grouped with "MV6" if they're coming out in the same wave or waves as the new Bumblebee toys that are going to be based on the new spin-off movie. We can only hope, I suppose, because I really want a much better "Studio Series" option for a voyager sized Optimus Prime resembling his appearance from the first three movies. Oh, and a voyager sized Movie 1 Bonecrusher too.

Do we have any idea how far Hasbro and Takara intend to support the Studio Series line? Dare we hope for releases for at the very least all of the (major) on-screen characters for movies 1 through 5?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Emerje wrote:Why hasn't anyone noticed this yet?

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

TRA MV6 as in Transformers Movie 6, AKA the Bumblebee Movie. Don't get too excited until you see them, they'll likely be based on '80s alt modes.

Emerje

Oh, damn! It was right there the whole time. I have a bad feeling you're right, Emerje, and these two will turn out to be versions from the upcoming Bumblebee movie. There's a chance, though, that they're just being grouped with "MV6" if they're coming out in the same wave or waves as the new Bumblebee toys that are going to be based on the new spin-off movie. We can only hope, I suppose, because I really want a much better "Studio Series" option for a voyager sized Optimus Prime resembling his appearance from the first three movies. Oh, and a voyager sized Movie 1 Bonecrusher too.

Do we have any idea how far Hasbro and Takara intend to support the Studio Series line? Dare we hope for releases for at the very least all of the (major) on-screen characters for movies 1 through 5?

The Bumblebee Movie aka MV6 toys will all be released under the Studio Series, there will be no dedicated line as far as we know. The fact "MV6" comes before "Studio Series" indicates that officially the latter is part of the former, not the other way around.

There will be a dedicated BB Movie toy line, but it's going to be kid stuff. The collector stuff will be in SS, replacing the Premier Edition line.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:There will be a dedicated BB Movie toy line, but it's going to be kid stuff. The collector stuff will be in SS, replacing the Premier Edition line.

Emerje

So in a sense right now the MV6 toys are already a thing

I'm sure there's a warehouse full of MV6 stuff sitting around somewhere waiting for the fall.

I'll be surprised if MV6 Optimus Prime doesn't look like AOE Evasion Mode Optimus Prime, but cleaner. The original was a pretty nice figure so I'd like to see how they pull of a presumed smaller version.

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Emerje wrote:Why hasn't anyone noticed this yet?

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES BONECRUSH E3745
UPC 63050976995
PRICE: $29.99

He is listed with a new Optimus listing:

TRA MV6 STUDIO SERIES OPTIMUS E3747
UPC: 63050976996
PRICE $29.99

TRA MV6 as in Transformers Movie 6, AKA the Bumblebee Movie. Don't get too excited until you see them, they'll likely be based on '80s alt modes.

Emerje

Oh, damn! It was right there the whole time. I have a bad feeling you're right, Emerje, and these two will turn out to be versions from the upcoming Bumblebee movie. There's a chance, though, that they're just being grouped with "MV6" if they're coming out in the same wave or waves as the new Bumblebee toys that are going to be based on the new spin-off movie. We can only hope, I suppose, because I really want a much better "Studio Series" option for a voyager sized Optimus Prime resembling his appearance from the first three movies. Oh, and a voyager sized Movie 1 Bonecrusher too.

Do we have any idea how far Hasbro and Takara intend to support the Studio Series line? Dare we hope for releases for at the very least all of the (major) on-screen characters for movies 1 through 5?

The Bumblebee Movie aka MV6 toys will all be released under the Studio Series, there will be no dedicated line as far as we know. The fact "MV6" comes before "Studio Series" indicates that officially the latter is part of the former, not the other way around.

I don't think you understood what I was suggesting at all. I know that the Studio Series will have toys specifically for the new Bumblebee movie. That's been known for months. What I'm suggesting is that the "MV6" addition to the product code doesn't necessarily indicate that the product is a direct tie-in to the Bumblebee movie, though of course some are. For instance, a later wave that starts putting out Bumblebee Movie specific molds might not fill the entire wave with those molds, but include other characters from earlier movies too, for the sake of variety and collector appeal (which is what the Studio Series is allegedly all about). The assortment is just labeled "MV6" because it's easier that way, because someone screwed up, or perhaps because it's a way for Hasbro to fool retailers into thinking it's a new line by "refreshing" the name or subline imprint. It's kind of like how they stretched Robots in Disguise into three years by first rebranding it as "Mini-Con Weaponizers" and then "Combiner Force," despite not all toys in the line having anything to do with the titular gimmick of the year.

I caved and ordered Optimus Prime, and just hoping it ain't long before Toyhax finish his sticker sheets set and make it available for purchase. Figure was £24.99 plus £2.90 postage. I wasn't gonna get it yet but i been feeling crappy this past week since my lovely rat Cookie passed away and felt like i needed to treat myself. Can't afford those Leaders and wanted another voyager. And he looks pretty damn fun in some of the nice photos I've seen and those twin orangey swords always look awesome. Anyways he should be here in next day or two.

Out of the other three I own so far:

Bumblebee - I love it, especially since 'fixing' the roof. Fun to play and pose and glad they got the gun arm attaching better this time. Along with TLK Bee one of my fave ever deluxe figures. I never really cared for his 70's camaro parts in robot mode until this figure. The edges and chunkier lil bit are a nice contrast to his TLK figure's smooth curves. I just wish the TLK figure came with a nice backdrop piece too cos I'm loving the display I'm forming with all these Studio series figures and their backdrops.

Starscream - my almost perfect figure and size for Starscream. Transformation somehow even more enjoyable than the original deluxe perhaps due to the bigger chunkier size. Only thing I miss are the neat tattoos so will certainly buy the RotF version too.

Ratchet - my least fave so far but still a great toy, just really needing extra paint apps to bring out more of the sculpt details. Size is perfect being between deluxe and voyager. Painted windows rather than transparent cheapen the vehicle mode look a bit though.


Also, yay voyager Bonecrusher as I had so requested.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't think you understood what I was suggesting at all. I know that the Studio Series will have toys specifically for the new Bumblebee movie. That's been known for months. What I'm suggesting is that the "MV6" addition to the product code doesn't necessarily indicate that the product is a direct tie-in to the Bumblebee movie, though of course some are. For instance, a later wave that starts putting out Bumblebee Movie specific molds might not fill the entire wave with those molds, but include other characters from earlier movies too, for the sake of variety and collector appeal (which is what the Studio Series is allegedly all about). The assortment is just labeled "MV6" because it's easier that way, because someone screwed up, or perhaps because it's a way for Hasbro to fool retailers into thinking it's a new line by "refreshing" the name or subline imprint. It's kind of like how they stretched Robots in Disguise into three years by first rebranding it as "Mini-Con Weaponizers" and then "Combiner Force," despite not all toys in the line having anything to do with the titular gimmick of the year.

Problem with that theory is twofold. None of the waves are based on specific movies, in fact wave one includes figures from the first four movies. Then there's the problem with how the VW Bee from movie 6 was supposed to be in wave 1 but was swapped out for the one we got at the last minute when the movie was pushed back to December. The plan of spreading out movie 6 figures rather than lumping them into a wave was there from the start. We know Optimus is in the movie and the Transformer count in the movie is very low so there really isn't enough to add a subtitle to the line. I'd be surprised if they did more than four figures total for the movie.

Emerje

Do we know prime is in the movie on earth though? I figured it would be at the beginning where he sends bee to earth.

Guys, ALL listings for Studio Series (and tiny turbo changersseries 3) use Movie 6 (or Bumblebee Movie) as part of their listing. Even if not related. It's just to identify at the retail level which films this line coincides with this year but not an indication of the content.


And Sabr, I meant Blackout.

william-james88 wrote:Woah Ironhidensh, I can't make heads or tails of that. How is Bb so much better thanGrimlock and why do you hate thundetcracker so much?

Thundercracker isn't a real Studio Series figures. It's a crappy movie 5 figure. I had, and sold, Nitro Zues and I just don't understand why so many like it.

Grimlock is horribly simple for a leader class figure. He is barely more than a one step changer. He looks great, I'll admit, and has great size, but I've never been fond of this character or design.

Bumblebee is amazing. This is the figure we should have gotten in 2007 for his '77 Camero mode. I don't seem to have the floppy issues others have, so I love him.

Turns out my Prime arrived today when my order email said it would be this coming Friday. Not complaining, just surprised.

My thoughts about the figure. More fun than I thought it would be. Transformation was reasonably easy without using the instructions. Took me a lil time to figure out how the arms properly fold in for truck mode but was pleased when I did it. Love the swords as I've not actually had a Voyager Prime with those (missed out on the battle blades one from years ago). It's generally a fun posable figure and I'm glad I bought it even if it hadn't originally been a priority.

Things I don't like? Short smoke stacks. Was hoping they'd be some kinda retractable thing at least. Truck mode is a lil junky on the sides in places but overall not bad. My biggest issue is the LACK OF ROBOT FLAMES. So yes looking forward to Toyhax producing a sticker sheet as you can see in one of my photos below where I have him posed with my TLK and AoE Primes which have had paint and Toyhax stickers added. Even the truck mode could use new flames with a pinstripe around them. Only after then will I decide which of my three I like the most.

Issues with my figure? Nothing wrong with the figure itself but was a lil gutted that my box was damaged enough in the bottom left corner that it had also damaged the display stand a bit (you can see it in the pics). Not hugely noticable and not serious enough to prevent any stability but still a lil annoying.

Nice pics carni! I wouldn't say no to prime, looks leagues above the very first voyager prime and I missed out on battle blades as well

ZeroWolf wrote:Nice pics carni! I wouldn't say no to prime, looks leagues above the very first voyager prime and I missed out on battle blades as well

Thanks. Yeah I like it a lot better than I thought I would. As I said above, just looking forward to treating it to a Toyhax set of stickers when they release them. That and a bit of paint here and there will really make the figure stand out more but even as is I'm pretty happy with it and I always did love those swords. They're ready to do some slicing and dicing (can't wait for Voyager Bonecrusher )

The news of Voyager Optimus and Bonecrusher makes me wonder if we're still getting the Voyager Ironhide mentioned in the leaks, and if it will come out before or after Optimus and Bonecrusher.

I have high hopes for Bonecrusher!

Man, I can't believe it's already to the point that they're taking advantage of my nostalgia for the 2007 film..

Jut wanted to show proof that the entire studio series line is labeled as Movie 6 in store database listings:

So it doesnt mean anthing more than it being scheduled to be out the same time frame as the film.

Anyone got some good group shots so we can see this amazing robot mode scaling Hasbro has been allegedly paying special attention too for the Studio Series line? I'd like to see how Bumblebee and Ratchet compare to one another. I'd also like to see Starscream next to Battle Blades Optimus Prime from 2010. That's still the best voyager Optimus Prime mold in my honest opinion.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Anyone got some good group shots so we can see this amazing robot mode scaling Hasbro has been allegedly paying special attention too for the Studio Series line? I'd like to see how Bumblebee and Ratchet compare to one another. I'd also like to see Starscream next to Battle Blades Optimus Prime from 2010. That's still the best voyager Optimus Prime mold in my honest opinion.

Despite that snark I took a pic of the four figures I have which are all major characters with notable attempts at scaling. I don't have the Battle Blades Prime, sorry. That's a costly figure these days.



Y'see that's some nice scaling for two Deluxes and two Voyagers. And I presume Blackout and moreso Grimlock make these look like tiny children.

There's probably pics of the full range that someone will post but i thought i'd do this anyways.

william-james88 wrote:Guys, ALL listings for Studio Series (and tiny turbo changersseries 3) use Movie 6 (or Bumblebee Movie) as part of their listing. Even if not related. It's just to identify at the retail level which films this line coincides with this year but not an indication of the content.

william-james88 wrote:Jut wanted to show proof that the entire studio series line is labeled as Movie 6 in store database listings:

So it doesnt mean anthing more than it being scheduled to be out the same time frame as the film.

Thank you

I finally spotted the Studio Series Deluxes at my local Walmart, and good golly Bumblebee looked small. Maybe the it's the size of the box, maybe it's the PotP Deluxes hanging right above, but gosh

no, BB is very very small, smaller than any deluxe since FOC.

william-james88 wrote:no, BB is very very small, smaller than any deluxe since FOC.

And Jazz will be smaller?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:no, BB is very very small, smaller than any deluxe since FOC.

And Jazz will be smaller?

No



And hey, wait a sec, wasnt lockdown as tall as Prime in the films?

william-james88 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:no, BB is very very small, smaller than any deluxe since FOC.

And Jazz will be smaller?

No

Ah well. There's probably only so small they can make it while still charging Deluxe price.

That picture amuses me cos I had my four figures positioned with Voyagers at back with Deluxes in front but I realised that's silly cos obviously perspective will make the different in size of figures less than they are so I lined them up in a row.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Anyone got some good group shots so we can see this amazing robot mode scaling Hasbro has been allegedly paying special attention too for the Studio Series line? I'd like to see how Bumblebee and Ratchet compare to one another. I'd also like to see Starscream next to Battle Blades Optimus Prime from 2010. That's still the best voyager Optimus Prime mold in my honest opinion.

Despite that snark I took a pic of the four figures I have which are all major characters with notable attempts at scaling. I don't have the Battle Blades Prime, sorry. That's a costly figure these days.



Y'see that's some nice scaling for two Deluxes and two Voyagers. And I presume Blackout and moreso Grimlock make these look like tiny children.

There's probably pics of the full range that someone will post but i thought i'd do this anyways.

No snark, my friend. All T, no shade. I'm not saying Studio Series Optimus Prime is terrible, but I am saying that I believe Battle Blades Optimus Prime is the better figure. Thanks for the pics, though. Studio Series Starscream looks BEEFY for a Voyager, so I don't think Battle Blades Optimus Prime is going to throw off the scale that much.

Wolfman Jake wrote:No snark, my friend. All T, no shade. I'm not saying Studio Series Optimus Prime is terrible, but I am saying that I believe Battle Blades Optimus Prime is the better figure. Thanks for the pics, though. Studio Series Starscream looks BEEFY for a Voyager, so I don't think Battle Blades Optimus Prime is going to throw off the scale that much.

Aw ok I read it as snark when you used the word 'amazing' but then 'allegedly' in asking about the scale of the Studio figures. My mistake. But yeah as you can see there's some definite height differences between figures of the same size class. And yes it means I was glad I got Prime much cheaper than Starscream cos the latter is suitably chunkier.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:No snark, my friend. All T, no shade. I'm not saying Studio Series Optimus Prime is terrible, but I am saying that I believe Battle Blades Optimus Prime is the better figure. Thanks for the pics, though. Studio Series Starscream looks BEEFY for a Voyager, so I don't think Battle Blades Optimus Prime is going to throw off the scale that much.

Aw ok I read it as snark when you used the word 'amazing' but then 'allegedly' in asking about the scale of the Studio figures. My mistake. But yeah as you can see there's some definite height differences between figures of the same size class. And yes it means I was glad I got Prime much cheaper than Starscream cos the latter is suitably chunkier.

No, the scaling is truly pretty amazing, considering that those look like four different size classes, but it's really just TWO.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:no, BB is very very small, smaller than any deluxe since FOC.

And Jazz will be smaller?

No

Ah well. There's probably only so small they can make it while still charging Deluxe price.

That picture amuses me cos I had my four figures positioned with Voyagers at back with Deluxes in front but I realised that's silly cos obviously perspective will make the different in size of figures less than they are so I lined them up in a row.

I'm surprised Hasbro isn't trying to sneak in extra characters that come in non-standard sizes to make up for some of the mass differential between these smaller than average figures and their usual bulk in each size class. It would probably be the only way to get reasonably scaled versions of characters like Frenzy, Wheelie, and Brains, unless they release a deluxe sized box set of them or the like. Would be interesting to see how they handle the Arcee bikes too.

Wolfman Jake wrote: It would probably be the only way to get reasonably scaled versions of characters like Frenzy, Wheelie, and Brains, unless they release a deluxe sized box set of them or the like. Would be interesting to see how they handle the Arcee bikes too.

Yeah speaking of the lil guys I've had Legends class Ravage as my main movie Ravage figure for years though I think he's now a tiny smidgey bit too big in scale to Bee (comparing with the scene where Bee rips out Ravage's spine in RotF) but it'll still do nicely.

Arcee bikes might be interesting but still not sure they work well as toys. I still love the 2007 Deluxe Arcee as it's one of my all time fave TF figures but it's way too large for scaling (even back then it was) with regular TF figures (might look better scaled with the MPM's?) so I wouldn't say no to a smaller scale-accurate version of her but I guess the fact that design wasn't actually used in the film prevents that at least until they've done all the actual on screen character designs.

Wheelie and Brains would have to be extremely small? Like World's Smallest Transformers Ravage? :O

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Woah Ironhidensh, I can't make heads or tails of that. How is Bb so much better thanGrimlock and why do you hate thundetcracker so much?

Thundercracker isn't a real Studio Series figures. It's a crappy movie 5 figure. I had, and sold, Nitro Zues and I just don't understand why so many like it.

Grimlock is horribly simple for a leader class figure. He is barely more than a one step changer. He looks great, I'll admit, and has great size, but I've never been fond of this character or design.

Bumblebee is amazing. This is the figure we should have gotten in 2007 for his '77 Camero mode. I don't seem to have the floppy issues others have, so I love him.

5th movie toys are crappy? Why do you say that? Tlk mainline was pretty great besides some QC issues which happen in every transformers line.

On topic, got ratchet, he is really cool. The only thing I'd like to see with ss going forward is an attempt to scale alt modes as well. It doesn't have to be perfect but ratchet being a hummer he should at least be bigger than bee

Munkky wrote:The news of Voyager Optimus and Bonecrusher makes me wonder if we're still getting the Voyager Ironhide mentioned in the leaks, and if it will come out before or after Optimus and Bonecrusher.

Maybe, just maybe, the rumored Ironhide is possible proof of a wave 4 to come I hope so, I would like to see a Sideswipe, a Dino, the 3 Wreckers (or at least a weaponized Leadfoot and Roadbuster), and maybe a Jolt and twins. Oh and a Frikkin Devastator, now that they have proven how good they are with combiners.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Munkky wrote:The news of Voyager Optimus and Bonecrusher makes me wonder if we're still getting the Voyager Ironhide mentioned in the leaks, and if it will come out before or after Optimus and Bonecrusher.

Maybe, just maybe, the rumored Ironhide is possible proof of a wave 4 to come I hope so, I would like to see a Sideswipe, a Dino, the 3 Wreckers (or at least a weaponized Leadfoot and Roadbuster), and maybe a Jolt and twins. Oh and a Frikkin Devastator, now that they have proven how good they are with combiners.

They could make a 200$ set with all voyager members of the ROTF Devastator team. Each individuals transformable to bot and vehicle, highly detailed, articulated, well painted... Heck an ultra improved and upscaled legend version would work!

A guy can dream.