New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Titan Class Scorponok

Rodimus Prime wrote:He doesn't need the gun. It was awkward for the original toy to have it as well.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Scorponok's looking amazing. Only issue I have with him is the fact that he doesn't have the silver on the legs, but even then that's not a big issue

o.supreme wrote:Scorponok looks great. I'm also so glad they didn't make him smaller like Trypticon. Also there was some early rumors he had parts sharing with Omega Supreme. Glad to know he is unique, and big enough to be Fort Max rival, undoing the error of the original Can't wait to get it

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem the designers had would have been to include all that stuff but have Scorp be diminished size wise and more hollow. Afterall, the designers had limits they had to adhere to, no matter what we may have wished. Still I think the compromises were worth it

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:Here's a question though, say that Takara decides to do a Selects Black Zarak, how would they manage the head? In the story for Masterpiece he wasn't a headmaster anymore, having wired himself into the core of the transector. I mean easiest option would just give the head units a new coat of paint (after the retool of course) but would they even need to include the Titan master?

blackeyedprime wrote:The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

-Kanrabat- wrote:Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

Even more disappointing then TR Fortress Maximus? How so? I think they did a really good job within the limits they had to work with.

Im still waiting to see the spear mode as well.

As for the Black Zarak you coming with a headmaster, that's because I completely forgot that it came with one

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Hell, E.B Games were supposed to have MP-44 as an exclusive but they never got it. Look like they don't want to have a 600$CAN toy in inventory after all.

They dont carrry them in stores, just online. Are you saying those who preordered him on the website never got him?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote::roll: You do realize that Trypticon's G1 toy was somewhat taller than Metroplex's G1 toy because it was in fact substantially bigger than Metroplex (and between that and the motor, cost almost twice as much), yes?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:TR Trypticon meanwhile is the same size as T30 Metroplex. He's just shorter because being a T. Rex in robot mode means that size is distributed differently; a lot of it's in the big fat T. rex tail, for instance, plus he has a consistently thick torso (especially when you factor in his back)...

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Scorponok's robot mode height is also affected by his tail (hence why he's not quite as tall as Metroplex and Fort Max), but not as much since it's not as huge as Trypticon's (Tryps' tail is the same length as his entire torso). On the upside, his height is boosted by the fact that his robot mode is humanoid rather than bestial.

ZeroWolf wrote:I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self

ZeroWolf wrote:I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self

Rodimus Prime wrote:it's Metroplex who has the problems.

Sabrblade wrote:"Tallest Modern Transformers Toy" or "Tallest Transformers Generations Toy Ever"

Sabrblade wrote:Glad to see others share my sentiment that T30 Titan class Metroplex never should have been as shallowly tall as it was in the first place.

"Tallest Transformers Toy Ever" could have just as easily been "Tallest Modern Transformers Toy" or "Tallest Transformers Generations Toy Ever", especially since the claim was rendered moot when it was taken back by its original holder, Fortress Maximus, a mere three years later.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Glad to see others share my sentiment that T30 Titan class Metroplex never should have been as shallowly tall as it was in the first place.

"Tallest Transformers Toy Ever" could have just as easily been "Tallest Modern Transformers Toy" or "Tallest Transformers Generations Toy Ever", especially since the claim was rendered moot when it was taken back by its original holder, Fortress Maximus, a mere three years later.

Well, at least they'll probably never get to use that again thanks to Unicron. Unless they go for like a 3 foot tall figure, at which point I'd start wondering how high the execs at HasTak are

o.supreme wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote::roll: You do realize that Trypticon's G1 toy was somewhat taller than Metroplex's G1 toy because it was in fact substantially bigger than Metroplex (and between that and the motor, cost almost twice as much), yes?

No need to lecture, I was there. Were you? Without the electronics, If Hasbro had scaled up TR Trypticon slightly to be almost the same size as T30 Metroplex (as ER Scorponok is to Fort Max), they could have easily done it for around the $200 price point in 2017

o.supreme wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:TR Trypticon meanwhile is the same size as T30 Metroplex. He's just shorter because being a T. Rex in robot mode means that size is distributed differently; a lot of it's in the big fat T. rex tail, for instance, plus he has a consistently thick torso (especially when you factor in his back)...

So he's short and fat, we all know that...Your Point?

o.supreme wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Scorponok's robot mode height is also affected by his tail (hence why he's not quite as tall as Metroplex and Fort Max), but not as much since it's not as huge as Trypticon's (Tryps' tail is the same length as his entire torso). On the upside, his height is boosted by the fact that his robot mode is humanoid rather than bestial.

And my point is still valid. I'm not saying Trypticon is an awful toy, never did, it just didn't meet my expectations, and they are still valid today, as they were 3 years ago when it came out.

ZeroWolf wrote:Here's a question though, say that Takara decides to do a Selects Black Zarak, how would they manage the head? In the story for Masterpiece he wasn't a headmaster anymore, having wired himself into the core of the transector. I mean easiest option would just give the head units a new coat of paint (after the retool of course) but would they even need to include the Titan master?

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I will buy this Scorponok but I will also buy the most likely upcoming 100$ upgrade kit. There's too many bits missing compared to the G1 original:

-- Need two more gray canons. Maybe replace all of them to make the canons posable.
-- The big gun that can split into city towers.
-- Radars and bits for the city mode. Those could combine into a bot like the deluxe "armor" guys.
-- Two proper silver "armor plates" to complete the bot mode for his legs.

This stuff, plus I wish there was an optional clear face shield for some real G1 figure/Mega Zarak cartoon authenticity.

Also wish he could use his tail stinger in bot mode like the original, but not even an upgrade kit can fix that it seems.

I really do love that all the hollow spots actually serve a purpose in at least one mode and gets covered when not in use (aside from the ankles in bot mode). Nice having somewhere to put the shield in scorpion mode.

Emerje

The big visor on the G1 toy may have been unsightly but it kind of needs it for cartoon accuracy in scorpion mode, so hopefully some kind of clip on attachment. For me this is one of the most disappointing titans but already ordered it... And if they release it as black zarak I'll be buying it again

Sabrblade wrote:Glad to see others share my sentiment that T30 Titan class Metroplex never should have been as shallowly tall as it was in the first place.

carytheone wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I thought Titans didn't go for $200? Given his dimensions, you might be luckier in the next Metroplex being smaller like his G1 self

Typically they go for around $50

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Glad to see others share my sentiment that T30 Titan class Metroplex never should have been as shallowly tall as it was in the first place.

Eh, he kinda did need to be the size he is. Not only does it make him a better towering giant, it also makes him work better as a walking dollhouse for figures larger than Legion-class.

Sabrblade wrote:He could have kept the same mass (and thus kept the same functionality as a playset, or "walking dollhouse" as you put it) if he had been couple of inches shorter in height. In fact, keeping the same mass at that slightly shorter height could have even bulked him up a bit more (making him better resemble his original chunkier design) so that he wouldn't be as lanky and anorexic as he turned out to be for the sheer shallow sake of more height.

Dr. Caelus wrote:T30 Metroplex's legs were just too long relative to the torso. It looks like his top half and bottom half were made for different scales.

Cyberpath wrote:I want that EarthRise Optimus Prime but the deco is so disappointing...

Should I get it or keep holding off for a better edition? (It's been known to happen)