New Transformers toy-line, Power Core Combiners? First set: Huffer and Caliburst revealed
Tuesday, December 15th, 2009 11:02AM CST
Category: Toy NewsPosted by: Mach Views: 43,084
Topic Options: View Discussion · Sign in or Join to reply
As images like this can easily be manipulated, we advise you to take this with a grain of salt. We'll keep you updated on this new toy-line once information becomes available.
Stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers related news!
News Search
Got Transformers News? Let us know here!
Most Popular Transformers News
Most Recent Transformers News
Posted by Bass X0 on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:09am CST
Posted by NassaDane on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:12am CST
Posted by HECTOR on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:20am CST
Posted by guardianprime on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:21am CST
looks like a sweet new line integrating a few old gimmicks.
Absolutly can't wait to see what this turns up!!!
unfortunately there seem to be no magnets =( for some reason the name "power core combiners" makes me want magnets in my toys!
Posted by Ultra Magnus on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:24am CST
Posted by Bass X0 on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:26am CST
Posted by Mkall on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:35am CST
Posted by Counterpunch on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:36am CST
Posted by Samsonator on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:37am CST
- Sam
Posted by Dead Metal on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:40am CST
Posted by Editor on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:40am CST
Interesting, but i need to see more before i can form an opinion.
Posted by Dead Metal on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:43am CST
Editor wrote:Using 4chan as a news source, what is this world coming to....
Interesting, but i need to see more before i can form an opinion.
Well they had the first pic of ROTF Leader Prime.
Posted by Neurie on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:47am CST
As for the multicombiner thing, that was done ages ago in Japan by the guys behind Robo Machines, they had teams of 5 that changed in to a gestalt and then all the teams merged in to a giant gestalt. Fell apart like a bitch but was impressive as long as you never breathed on it
The mock up looks nice though
Posted by City Commander on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:48am CST
This figure looks amazing. I'm glad we're finally getting a Huffer figure to go with Brawn, Cliffjumper and Bumblebee! I just hope they aren't so drastically different-looking when stood next to the classics figures.
As for the idea of power core combiners? Fucking love it. Every toy can combine in any way possible? I might be being optimistic on this one, but I'm thinking of a massive scramble-city love in coming up!
Posted by Counterpunch on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:50am CST
City Commander wrote:/toy is actually pretty good for tf news. They can release whatever info they like without fear of reprisal.
Technically, /b does the same thing.
Posted by Convotron on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:53am CST
Posted by jason jupiter on December 15th, 2009 @ 11:58am CST
Posted by UltraPrimal on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:11pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:That's a movie design?
Fixed.
Huffer reminds me of Animated Sentinel Prime.
Don't really like the looks of it. I'm also a little suspicious of something coming from 4chan. I'm proud to say I've never visited the website, but from what I hear it's a collection of all the internets mentally ill in one place. Like Arkham Asylum without out the doctors or medication. Which to be fair is every other day for Arkham. So I have an itching feeling this may be fake. But you, we'll when there's actual pictures of the toys. Not just a picture of photoshopped pictures in a box.
Though if this is real, it's quite interesting. I wonder if they'll have other type of combiners in this subline like headmasters and powermasters and actual combiner combiners, like either gestalt-style or Energon-style. It also kind of reminds me of an idea I had a long time ago where basically anything could be on the alt mode could turn into a smaller robot. For example, I had a design for Soundwave who turned into an APC(or a striker like movie Wreckage) and his minions turned into thing you stuck onto his vehical mode. So Lazerbeak was a radar/satellite dish, Ravage was a spare tire, Rumble was a luggage box, etc. That would be cool if they did something like that.
Posted by City Commander on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:13pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:City Commander wrote:/toy is actually pretty good for tf news. They can release whatever info they like without fear of reprisal.
Technically, /b does the same thing.
HA, can't argue with that
Posted by --B-- on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:23pm CST
I'll have to see it in person, but I can't see Huffer being cool enough to pull off a visor.
Posted by Editor on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:30pm CST
City Commander wrote:Counterpunch wrote:City Commander wrote:/toy is actually pretty good for tf news. They can release whatever info they like without fear of reprisal.
Technically, /b does the same thing.
HA, can't argue with that
toys on /toy true not bad, and 4chan is a open forum for saying anything.
anything on /b again open forum.
toys on /b.... well i'm sure they had pics of Nexus Maximus first if not necessarily the gestalt one.
Posted by starfish on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:44pm CST
Each toy can be disassembled and reassembled using components from every other toy in the line. Beyond that the toys can be combined as gestalts in a nearly limitless number of configurations. In effect all the toys can combine with each other simultaneously.
This description kinda remonds me of the 'Modulok' character from Masters of the Universe.
For those too young to remember, Modulok was a toy that consisted of multiple pieces - lots of different arms, legs, bodies and heads that could be assembled into an almost limitess combinations of bodies. If you bought multiple copies of the figure, then you could ovbiously make larger and more complex forms, limited only by the number of body parts you owned.
So is Huffer, in effect, a Modulok that transforms into a truck?
Posted by City Commander on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:46pm CST
starfish wrote:Each toy can be disassembled and reassembled using components from every other toy in the line. Beyond that the toys can be combined as gestalts in a nearly limitless number of configurations. In effect all the toys can combine with each other simultaneously.
This description kinda remonds me of the 'Modulok' character from Masters of the Universe.
For those too young to remember, Modulok was a toy that consisted of multiple pieces - lots of different arms, legs, bodies and heads that could be assembled into an almost limitess combinations of bodies. If you bought multiple copies of the figure, then you could ovbiously make larger and more complex forms, limited only by the number of body parts you owned.
So is Huffer, in effect, a Modulok that transforms into a truck?
Reading around on a couple of other tf news sites, I read the guy that posted this statement is a bit of a BSer. Until things are known for certain, I advise everyone to take this bit with a pinch of salt.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on December 15th, 2009 @ 12:47pm CST
Posted by Edymus prime on December 15th, 2009 @ 1:05pm CST
I really love targetmasters! and this idea sounds cool to me!
Posted by Cobalt Prime on December 15th, 2009 @ 1:29pm CST
However, as the author of the "Toy Disintegration..." thread, I have to ask the question "are these things going to hook together in a manner that won't weaken or crack the plastic every time it's done, or are we looking at broken crap in relatively short order?"
Time and experience have made me an "energon cube half empty" kind of guy.
Posted by Blurrz on December 15th, 2009 @ 1:47pm CST
(Plus I have my tendencies to not trust 4chan..)
Posted by hpfabe on December 15th, 2009 @ 1:51pm CST
Then again, TF2 was pretty much originally going to be combiners (Prime + Jetfire, the twins, Devastator, Arcee triplets), and then the new toys with little vehicles attaching to bigger ones, so maybe this is where Hasbro is pushing the future of Transformers for the immediate future.
Posted by Samsonator on December 15th, 2009 @ 1:56pm CST
Blurrz wrote:Not to be doubting Tom, but I just don't think this is real. There's no twist-ties on either of those figures, and Hasbro loves to stick those on theirs. Huffer and Caliburst look unregretably 2 dimensional. The 'Formers' logo at the top there looks a bit off. The packaging is way too big for the figures... and since when do first release figures get put into Robot mode?
(Plus I have my tendencies to not trust 4chan..)
Don't forget, though, that for packaging test they quite often have a cardboard cutout of the figure in a test package. Similar things happened with Leader Class Jetfire.
- Sam
Posted by Blurrz on December 15th, 2009 @ 1:58pm CST
Samsonator wrote:Blurrz wrote:Not to be doubting Tom, but I just don't think this is real. There's no twist-ties on either of those figures, and Hasbro loves to stick those on theirs. Huffer and Caliburst look unregretably 2 dimensional. The 'Formers' logo at the top there looks a bit off. The packaging is way too big for the figures... and since when do first release figures get put into Robot mode?
(Plus I have my tendencies to not trust 4chan..)
Don't forget, though, that for packaging test they quite often have a cardboard cutout of the figure in a test package. Similar things happened with Leader Class Jetfire.
- Sam
Fair enough... I just don't get why a G1 Decepticon Targetmaster is now siding with the Autobots. I know it's just name changing.. but for aesthetics..
Posted by Samsonator on December 15th, 2009 @ 2:01pm CST
Posted by Editor on December 15th, 2009 @ 2:28pm CST
Samsonator wrote:Blurrz wrote:Not to be doubting Tom, but I just don't think this is real. There's no twist-ties on either of those figures, and Hasbro loves to stick those on theirs. Huffer and Caliburst look unregretably 2 dimensional. The 'Formers' logo at the top there looks a bit off. The packaging is way too big for the figures... and since when do first release figures get put into Robot mode?
(Plus I have my tendencies to not trust 4chan..)
Don't forget, though, that for packaging test they quite often have a cardboard cutout of the figure in a test package. Similar things happened with Leader Class Jetfire.
- Sam
While I agree with Blurrz that it doesn't quite look 'real' enough. Test shots like this are quite common. I think it's more of a question where the pic was taken, as I would expect to hear more in short order if it is legit.
Posted by SJ21 on December 15th, 2009 @ 2:33pm CST
Doing all this other crap takes away from what the toy is designed to do. Annoying.
Or, if you want all kinds of stupid new gimmicks, jam them in the movie toys. Don't put them in the Classics/Universe line that is supposed to reference older lines of toys.
Posted by hpfabe on December 15th, 2009 @ 2:36pm CST
Posted by Samsonator on December 15th, 2009 @ 2:39pm CST
SJ21 wrote:Ugh! I hate gimmicks. Just give me the figure that goes from robot to alt mode. I don't want lights, sounds, or figures that can be taken (fall) apart. I don't want them to be able to combine with every other figure out there. I just want figures that look good and transform.
Doing all this other crap takes away from what the toy is designed to do. Annoying.
Or, if you want all kinds of stupid new gimmicks, jam them in the movie toys. Don't put them in the Classics/Universe line that is supposed to reference older lines of toys.
Hate to say it, but gimmicks have been a part of the line from day one. Starting with Rubsigns and spring loaded missiles, then in a year it was combining followed by even more the next year, and Triple changing, headmasters, targetmasters, and so on. Having a line referencing an older line (in this case G1) still leaves plenty of room for gimmickry as that line was equally as full of such things. I do agree that in some cases it does extremely limit the design of the figures (I'm looking at YOU, Energon Autobots!) But not all gimmicks are a detriment to the figures themselves.
- Sam
Posted by hippymule on December 15th, 2009 @ 3:45pm CST
Posted by hippymule on December 15th, 2009 @ 3:51pm CST
Posted by cadenheadr04 on December 15th, 2009 @ 3:54pm CST
Posted by Blurrz on December 15th, 2009 @ 3:59pm CST
cadenheadr04 wrote:Just analyzing the picture a bit here, but the background in the bubble is from an ROTF package. The Bubble is half covering the autobot emblem, and overlaps the edge of the card on the right side of the pic, most people can photoshop and graphically edit what they want, including the figure cutouts and the loose cardboard at the front of the package, and after looking at a few of my boxes, Hasbro's logo is usually on the back or bottom of the package not the front... so Until we get official word from hasbro and prototype pic leaks, I'm all for taking a huge mound of salt...
Well Power Core Combiners was something that Hasbro said officially.... I'm just with you on the speculation.
Posted by Editor on December 15th, 2009 @ 4:03pm CST
Even better if there was a tracker to see how well we do over time.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on December 15th, 2009 @ 4:31pm CST
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 15th, 2009 @ 5:25pm CST
Posted by Blozor on December 15th, 2009 @ 5:41pm CST
Seriously, though, the figures look like they're taped to the front of the plastic and the picture on the side looks like a real truck with a CGI cannon planted on it. Also, unless Hasbro is planning on doing something different with this line, figures are usually packaged in alt mode and their robot modes are shown in the boxart.
The concept is interesting, but the picture looks dubious at best.
Also, consider your sources. 4chan is a hangout for trolls and gremlins.
Posted by Editor on December 15th, 2009 @ 5:49pm CST
Blozor wrote:That pic looks 'shopped. I can tell by some of the pixels and the fact that I've seen a lot of 'shops in my time.
Seriously, though, the figures look like they're taped to the front of the plastic and the picture on the side looks like a real truck with a CGI cannon planted on it. Also, unless Hasbro is planning on doing something different with this line, figures are usually packaged in alt mode and their robot modes are shown in the boxart.
The concept is interesting, but the picture looks dubious at best.
Also, consider your sources. 4chan is a hangout for trolls and gremlins.
As it has been previously mentioned. many times props like this are produced for shows in advance of actual production which literally can be artwork attached to existing packaging. I'm not saying it's real, but it is completely within the range of possibility that something like this would be produces for a trade show or marketing meeting just to gauge reaction from potential buyers/consumer focus and other means.
And all joking aside if the pic was snatched by a /b/tard I would expect it to be posted to 4chan before a site like this.
We'll see what happens as things progress.
Posted by Jetstorm92210 on December 15th, 2009 @ 6:16pm CST
Posted by Samsonator on December 15th, 2009 @ 6:35pm CST
Editor wrote:As it has been previously mentioned. many times props like this are produced for shows in advance of actual production which literally can be artwork attached to existing packaging. I'm not saying it's real, but it is completely within the range of possibility that something like this would be produces for a trade show or marketing meeting just to gauge reaction from potential buyers/consumer focus and other means.
And all joking aside if the pic was snatched by a /b/tard I would expect it to be posted to 4chan before a site like this.
We'll see what happens as things progress.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Getting away from the 'real or fake' argument a little, and going strictly on the assumption that this turns out to be legit, anyone else notice how Caliburst appears to be made mostly out of transparent plastic? I hope this doesn't make for wicked stress marks all over the figure after a few transformations. I have more than a few Armada minicons who had similar problems.
- Sam
Posted by Cobalt Prime on December 15th, 2009 @ 8:11pm CST
Samsonator wrote:Getting away from the 'real or fake' argument a little, and going strictly on the assumption that this turns out to be legit, anyone else notice how Caliburst appears to be made mostly out of transparent plastic? I hope this doesn't make for wicked stress marks all over the figure after a few transformations. I have more than a few Armada minicons who had similar problems.
- Sam
THANK YOU!
This is exactly the kind of stuff I was talking about a few posts back. We want less gimmicks, more durability!!!
Posted by Counterpunch on December 15th, 2009 @ 8:42pm CST
Jetstorm9221 wrote:Real or not, Eat your heart out, BotCon Huffer!
Cha said the kitty! Not hardly.
Posted by Abraxsis on December 15th, 2009 @ 8:49pm CST
Posted by Jaz-Zen on December 15th, 2009 @ 9:36pm CST
And, I also want an updated Huffer. Once Brawn comes out, I'll have modern versions of all the original mini-bots, except Huffer.
I will take this with a pinch of salt, but I do like the idea of Targetmasters, and since it is easily doable, I find it easy to believe in.
And if it does turn out to be true that you can take all the figures apart and put them back together just about any way you want, then that would be cool. I, personally, have a deep desire to kitbash, but I just don't have the raw talent, skills or time to do it. So I would love to be able to use existing figures to make new characters. And I would simply be careful and not overdo it. Plan what parts you want from what figures, then just take those figures apart and put them back together the way you want, just one or two times.
Anyway, we'll see, eventually.
-J-