New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia
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While the US of A has been getting all the Siege toys first (just like it happened with wave 1 of POTP), the line has been propagating across the globe, finding many happy fans. Canada was missing the leaders, and while they have yet to hit Walmart or Toysrus, they have been popping up at EB-Games at $69.99 (which is the retail price for leaders in Canada now). They can also be purchased online (though randomly allocated).
As for Australia, we have had reports that the first wave (except for leaders) is being found at Toy World shops. The prices are $12 for Battle Masters, $40 for Deluxes and $55 for Voyagers.
The prices listed in the article are of course in the currency of the country the product was sighted.
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Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004466)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 2:14pm CST
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 2:14pm CST
40$ for a deluxe? Yeesh. At least Australia has them, cuz all I see here are the Wave 1 Battle Masters and Micromasters.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004469)
Posted by Burn on January 13th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CST
It's barely news considering how few Toyworlds there are in the country. But it's normal for them to get stock before the big stores, if we're lucky, once the big stores get them they'll be slightly cheaper (not much) and actually stock them.
Posted by Burn on January 13th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CST
Nathaniel Prime wrote:40$ for a deluxe? Yeesh. At least Australia has them, cuz all I see here are the Wave 1 Battle Masters and Micromasters.
It's barely news considering how few Toyworlds there are in the country. But it's normal for them to get stock before the big stores, if we're lucky, once the big stores get them they'll be slightly cheaper (not much) and actually stock them.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004473)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
I was refering to here in Florida, where we still have the tailender of Studio Series and POTP. Only the Battle Masters and Micromasters have shown up so far, but hopefully I will get to see more soon.
On a sidenote, will probably pick up POTP Optimal Optimus, because after watching Season 3 of Beast Wars, everything that bothered me about him ceased to exist. I actually enjoy his jet mode now that I've seen it in action. No "car mode" but I am least interested in that. Primal doesn't bother me like he used to. All in all, I think he is the best Leader from POTP, and I would recommend picking him up. BTW, I'm not even a Beast Wars fan
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Burn wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:40$ for a deluxe? Yeesh. At least Australia has them, cuz all I see here are the Wave 1 Battle Masters and Micromasters.
It's barely news considering how few Toyworlds there are in the country. But it's normal for them to get stock before the big stores, if we're lucky, once the big stores get them they'll be slightly cheaper (not much) and actually stock them.
I was refering to here in Florida, where we still have the tailender of Studio Series and POTP. Only the Battle Masters and Micromasters have shown up so far, but hopefully I will get to see more soon.
On a sidenote, will probably pick up POTP Optimal Optimus, because after watching Season 3 of Beast Wars, everything that bothered me about him ceased to exist. I actually enjoy his jet mode now that I've seen it in action. No "car mode" but I am least interested in that. Primal doesn't bother me like he used to. All in all, I think he is the best Leader from POTP, and I would recommend picking him up. BTW, I'm not even a Beast Wars fan
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004476)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 13th, 2019 @ 3:24pm CST
RiD (2001)/Car Robots is marred by ill-advised use of clear plastic on X-Brawn and especially Prowl, plus Mega Octane/Dolrailer being absent the base-mode launcher in both RiD and Car Robots. There's also the matter of Fortress/Brave Maximus: The US didn't get him at all because the mold doesn't pass the drop test, and while Japan did get him almost all his accessories were held back as campaign prizes.
And not necessarily a flaw on its own, but still worth noting: half the molds were recycled from past lines
Well, of course.
It's Skywarp after all - it's something of a trend, although there are exceptions.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 13th, 2019 @ 3:24pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:At the risk of further derailing the thread, no line is perfect, but I thought RiD/Car Robots came pretty close. So far, the SS line is doing great, with only a couple of missteps. Siege, on the other hand has been hit and miss, and we're only into wave 1.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Has there ever been a flawless line?
RiD (2001)/Car Robots is marred by ill-advised use of clear plastic on X-Brawn and especially Prowl, plus Mega Octane/Dolrailer being absent the base-mode launcher in both RiD and Car Robots. There's also the matter of Fortress/Brave Maximus: The US didn't get him at all because the mold doesn't pass the drop test, and while Japan did get him almost all his accessories were held back as campaign prizes.
And not necessarily a flaw on its own, but still worth noting: half the molds were recycled from past lines
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:No Hot Rod or Grimlock? As much as I like them I'm kinda glad they're giving them a rest. They will probably show up later in the Trilogy.
Springer before Grimlock or Skywarp is a surprise.
Skywarp was never going to be part of the regular line. If/WHEN he comes out, it will be as an exclusive.
Well, of course.
It's Skywarp after all - it's something of a trend, although there are exceptions.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004502)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 4:57pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 4:57pm CST
I was thinking more of screen accuracy. I know that "best" is a subjective term, and we look at the lines from different perspectives. My thought was that all the figures I had/saw in the lines were accurate to the screen representation, as far as I can remember. I'm about to watch the subbed version of Car Robots soon so I'll be refreshed.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:At the risk of further derailing the thread, no line is perfect, but I thought RiD/Car Robots came pretty close. So far, the SS line is doing great, with only a couple of missteps. Siege, on the other hand has been hit and miss, and we're only into wave 1.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Has there ever been a flawless line?
RiD (2001)/Car Robots is marred by ill-advised use of clear plastic on X-Brawn and especially Prowl, plus Mega Octane/Dolrailer being absent the base-mode launcher in both RiD and Car Robots. There's also the matter of Fortress/Brave Maximus: The US didn't get him at all because the mold doesn't pass the drop test, and while Japan did get him almost all his accessories were held back as campaign prizes.
And not necessarily a flaw on its own, but still worth noting: half the molds were recycled from past lines
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004515)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 13th, 2019 @ 5:31pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 13th, 2019 @ 5:31pm CST
Thanks to fellow Seibertron users, Riley Hoffman, Sentinel_Primal and Nemesis Primal we have learned that YouTuber TonTon Reviews has uploaded a new video review of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Wave 2 Deluxe Class Prowl! The review covers his transformation and comparisons with his Siege brethren and with Studio Series #38 Transformers Bumblebee Optimus Prime.
We have embedded the video below for your convenience:
Will you be hunting Prowl down for your collection? Or are you content with one of his other incarnations for your toy shelves? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
We have embedded the video below for your convenience:
Will you be hunting Prowl down for your collection? Or are you content with one of his other incarnations for your toy shelves? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004526)
Posted by Flashwave on January 13th, 2019 @ 5:54pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on January 13th, 2019 @ 5:54pm CST
Prowl is a definate. But I wish he had his shoulder rockets.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004530)
Posted by Ominous Sand on January 13th, 2019 @ 6:08pm CST
Posted by Ominous Sand on January 13th, 2019 @ 6:08pm CST
I’ll probably buy him if I see him in stores, but won’t hunt him down online. Wish he had shoulder rockets
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004538)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:19pm CST
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:19pm CST
Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?
I know that it's, generally, unpopular; I'm not complaining about its absence, I am complaining that there is, yet another, inconsistency across the Generations toys...
I know that it's, generally, unpopular; I'm not complaining about its absence, I am complaining that there is, yet another, inconsistency across the Generations toys...
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004539)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:27pm CST
Now that you mention it, Chromia has none either.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:27pm CST
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?
Now that you mention it, Chromia has none either.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004541)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:49pm CST
I wouldn't say that for certain, given the amount of people who were convinced Skytread/Flywheels and Cog didn't have any battle damage. It could easily be there but very lightly applied or hard to see, or just not show up easily on camera due to color or placement. My Cog has battle damage on his inner calves, for example.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:49pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?
Now that you mention it, Chromia has none either.
I wouldn't say that for certain, given the amount of people who were convinced Skytread/Flywheels and Cog didn't have any battle damage. It could easily be there but very lightly applied or hard to see, or just not show up easily on camera due to color or placement. My Cog has battle damage on his inner calves, for example.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004542)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:54pm CST
I just checked some images, and Ironhide only seems to have them on the inside of his arm panels.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2019 @ 7:54pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?
Now that you mention it, Chromia has none either.
I wouldn't say that for certain, given the amount of people who were convinced Skytread/Flywheels and Cog didn't have any battle damage. It could easily be there but very lightly applied or hard to see, or just not show up easily on camera due to color or placement. My Cog has battle damage on his inner calves, for example.
I just checked some images, and Ironhide only seems to have them on the inside of his arm panels.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004547)
Posted by william-james88 on January 13th, 2019 @ 8:12pm CST
I am pretty sure Starscream is not the figure that would convince you otherwise. I really think they chose to start off with a bang with their best figures in the first wave. I am excited for Ironhide though as well as the Trypticon weaponizer guy (Brunt?)
I also feel Magnus is too small both fir the price and the size class but I dont think he is small compared to Prime. They look about right together. I do wish the price waa cheaper dir the leaders and that there was a cheaper option of Shockwave available where you would just get the main figure. But it is what it is.
Posted by william-james88 on January 13th, 2019 @ 8:12pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:william-james88 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.
Small for a leader class? Small for 50$? Or too small an Ultra Magnus to scale with voyager Prime?
All of the above.
Look, I get it, I'm in the minority on this. I really kinda hate this line, but most of you love it, and that's awesome, it really is.
I don't want to be that guy hating on what others like, so I'm going to stay out of here until I I get my hands on Starscream.
I am pretty sure Starscream is not the figure that would convince you otherwise. I really think they chose to start off with a bang with their best figures in the first wave. I am excited for Ironhide though as well as the Trypticon weaponizer guy (Brunt?)
I also feel Magnus is too small both fir the price and the size class but I dont think he is small compared to Prime. They look about right together. I do wish the price waa cheaper dir the leaders and that there was a cheaper option of Shockwave available where you would just get the main figure. But it is what it is.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004551)
Posted by Patrickab7 on January 13th, 2019 @ 8:52pm CST
Posted by Patrickab7 on January 13th, 2019 @ 8:52pm CST
Hit the motherlode at Fairview Heights Target today as they had Magnus and two Shockwaves...finally picked up Magnus.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004564)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:17pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:17pm CST
Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004566)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:21pm CST
The SDCC samples had no battle damage either.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:21pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.
The SDCC samples had no battle damage either.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004568)
Posted by Emerje on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:22pm CST
Seems like we should get one more unknown Leader in wave 3, can't imagine them only doing 2 complete waves with new figures. Remember when we thought we knew all of the possible figures in Deluxe wave 2 and then out of nowhere Hasbro surprises us with Chromia despite not being listed in leaks? It could happen again.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:22pm CST
william-james88 wrote:We already know the entire content for Siege when it comes to wide releases for deluxe, voyager and leader:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... res/42353/
Seems like we should get one more unknown Leader in wave 3, can't imagine them only doing 2 complete waves with new figures. Remember when we thought we knew all of the possible figures in Deluxe wave 2 and then out of nowhere Hasbro surprises us with Chromia despite not being listed in leaks? It could happen again.
Emerje
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004569)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:26pm CST
Ah, okay. Still the paint on con samples doesn't necessarily reflect what the actual shelf toys will be like
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:26pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.
The SDCC samples had no battle damage either.
Ah, okay. Still the paint on con samples doesn't necessarily reflect what the actual shelf toys will be like
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004573)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:42pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:42pm CST
I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004575)
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:51pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:51pm CST
the way he transforms is reminiscent of the g1 toy
i certainly hope we get silver bluestreak and smokescrean too
i certainly hope we get silver bluestreak and smokescrean too
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004577)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:54pm CST
I wouldn't be surprised if they came in the later parts of the trilogy. It seems like such an obvious set to complete. Also, on the topic of Seekers, what if they decided that the main trio comes in Siege, then the Coneheads come in the second part, then the Rainmakers come in the third part of the trilogy?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 13th, 2019 @ 11:54pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:the way he transforms is reminiscent of the g1 toy
i certainly hope we get silver bluestreak and smokescrean too
I wouldn't be surprised if they came in the later parts of the trilogy. It seems like such an obvious set to complete. Also, on the topic of Seekers, what if they decided that the main trio comes in Siege, then the Coneheads come in the second part, then the Rainmakers come in the third part of the trilogy?
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004578)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:01am CST
Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:01am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.
Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004582)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:25am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:25am CST
Him too, but Straxus for sure. He was larger (both taller and bulkier), despite T-wing being a Pretender. And that's another gimmick that could be updated in the upcoming lines, the Pretenders. With today's engineering technology, it certainly can be done.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.
Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004584)
Posted by ausbot on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:46am CST
Posted by ausbot on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:46am CST
Worried about Prowl's knees, they look very weak and flimsy.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004612)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 14th, 2019 @ 7:33am CST
Straxus, Jhiaxus or Thunderwing could work in Leader Class. I've mentioned it in the MP thread but although I dislike the Pretenders, I would really like to see a new one. Specifically a Masterpiece Pretender. MP Transformer inner bot encased in a Marvel Legends level figure.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 14th, 2019 @ 7:33am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Him too, but Straxus for sure. He was larger (both taller and bulkier), despite T-wing being a Pretender. And that's another gimmick that could be updated in the upcoming lines, the Pretenders. With today's engineering technology, it certainly can be done.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.
Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?
Straxus, Jhiaxus or Thunderwing could work in Leader Class. I've mentioned it in the MP thread but although I dislike the Pretenders, I would really like to see a new one. Specifically a Masterpiece Pretender. MP Transformer inner bot encased in a Marvel Legends level figure.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004613)
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2019 @ 7:45am CST
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2019 @ 7:45am CST
I would be super excited for a new Jhiaxus figure. And a proper one this time, not another orange repaint of another figure.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004615)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 14th, 2019 @ 7:59am CST
Absolutely. Especially in Leader Class, Jhiaxus deserves better than being another palette swap Seeker.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 14th, 2019 @ 7:59am CST
Emerje wrote:I would be super excited for a new Jhiaxus figure. And a proper one this time, not another orange repaint of another figure.
Emerje
Absolutely. Especially in Leader Class, Jhiaxus deserves better than being another palette swap Seeker.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004631)
Posted by X3ROhour on January 14th, 2019 @ 9:03am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on January 14th, 2019 @ 9:03am CST
DeathReviews wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:hmmm...
SKYTREAD
the gun mount in tank mode is too tight and aims down.
or did i do something wrong?
Take any of the Pretender Prime Master figures (that become guns) and plug it into the hole for the central tank cannon. Not only will they fit perfectly, but the rotating peg on the pretender armor means you can tilt the cannon up and down! Pure win...
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004644)
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:36am CST
A couple things... the number of *13* PotP deluxes is only the most basic general release number for the United States, other deluxes which were specific retailer exclusives for the US, were regular releases in other countries. Also, do we know for sure that Mirage & Impactor will be standard regular releases? I thought because of the fan poll, they would be an exclusive two-pack or something...???
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:36am CST
Emerje wrote:That's 14 figures to PotPs 13 Deluxe so it isn't likely there'll be another Deluxe in this line. We might actually get two figures in wave 4 this time, can't picture them doing five in wave 3. Probably Barricade and Red Alert since they're repaints.
A couple things... the number of *13* PotP deluxes is only the most basic general release number for the United States, other deluxes which were specific retailer exclusives for the US, were regular releases in other countries. Also, do we know for sure that Mirage & Impactor will be standard regular releases? I thought because of the fan poll, they would be an exclusive two-pack or something...???
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004646)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:41am CST
It was confirmed that they'd be the standard single releases
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:41am CST
o.supreme wrote:Emerje wrote:That's 14 figures to PotPs 13 Deluxe so it isn't likely there'll be another Deluxe in this line. We might actually get two figures in wave 4 this time, can't picture them doing five in wave 3. Probably Barricade and Red Alert since they're repaints.
A couple things... the number of *13* PotP deluxes is only the most basic general release number for the United States, other deluxes which were specific retailer exclusives for the US, were regular releases in other countries. Also, do we know for sure that Mirage & Impactor will be standard regular releases? I thought because of the fan poll, they would be an exclusive two-pack or something...???
It was confirmed that they'd be the standard single releases
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004648)
Posted by leokearon on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:51am CST
We need THUNDERCLASH!
It is nice that Siege does have some unusual choices like Sixgun, Cog and Brunt. Hopefully there will be more like them
Posted by leokearon on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:51am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.
We need THUNDERCLASH!
It is nice that Siege does have some unusual choices like Sixgun, Cog and Brunt. Hopefully there will be more like them
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004649)
Posted by leokearon on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:52am CST
He can be a repiant/retool as long as he is in the right colours
Posted by leokearon on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:52am CST
Emerje wrote:I would be super excited for a new Jhiaxus figure. And a proper one this time, not another orange repaint of another figure.
Emerje
He can be a repiant/retool as long as he is in the right colours
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004650)
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:54am CST
Well that's good to know, they will probably be the last wave then. Hopefully they will be more readily available than the *super-late-blink-and-you'll-miss-it" Optimal Optimus.
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 10:54am CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:It was confirmed that they'd be the standard single releases
Well that's good to know, they will probably be the last wave then. Hopefully they will be more readily available than the *super-late-blink-and-you'll-miss-it" Optimal Optimus.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004656)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 14th, 2019 @ 11:40am CST
I do remember some official renders from Hasbro showing Prowl with some "scratches" on the black paint of his front hood/bumper. I bet the details are there, but hard to spot at first, like with Cog, or these really are unfinished factory samples, as Zelda said. After the initial reveals for Siege, Hasbro seems to have dialed back a bit on the battle damage paint, but I don't think they've abandoned it altogether.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 14th, 2019 @ 11:40am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.
The SDCC samples had no battle damage either.
I do remember some official renders from Hasbro showing Prowl with some "scratches" on the black paint of his front hood/bumper. I bet the details are there, but hard to spot at first, like with Cog, or these really are unfinished factory samples, as Zelda said. After the initial reveals for Siege, Hasbro seems to have dialed back a bit on the battle damage paint, but I don't think they've abandoned it altogether.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004657)
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
Just a few facts to answer some questions:
1. Prowl did have scuff marks in his original renders (you can see them on the chest)
2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message baords. This is of coruse only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.
3. The best comparson to final wave deluxes and how that will be distributed would be the Novastar was from POTP.
1. Prowl did have scuff marks in his original renders (you can see them on the chest)
2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message baords. This is of coruse only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.
3. The best comparson to final wave deluxes and how that will be distributed would be the Novastar was from POTP.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004663)
Posted by Adimus Prime on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by Adimus Prime on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:27pm CST
Prowl should arrest this YouTuber for using that background music.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004665)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:47pm CST
I actually believe Hasbro may be pulling back on the leader class overall for retail releases.
For regular retail releases:
Combiner Wars was 6 Leaders across 3 molds for a 18 month line. And the result was Skywarp shelfwarming pretty bad.
Titans Return was 6 leaders across 4-5 molds for an 18 month line, depending on how you count Sky Shadow/Overlord. And the result was Overlord at heavy Discount for those lucky enough to have an Ollie's.
PotP was 4 leaders across 3 molds for a 12 month line. And the result was Optimus Primal, the fan vote, not really hitting retail until it was almost time for clearance.
What I'm seeing is that apparently Leader class figures just don't move as well in general at regular release. As a parent, this actually makes all the sense in the world to me. I'm not dropping $50 on a toy for one of my kids unless I know they are way into it, have a collection, etc. And even then a $50 toy would almost certainly be reserved for birthday/Christmas, or if they saved up their own money. That would mean that the main buyer for leader class would generally be a collector (adult or kid) as opposed to a casual fan/parent where dropping $20 on a smaller figure would make more sense.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:47pm CST
william-james88 wrote:2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message boards. This is of course only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.
I actually believe Hasbro may be pulling back on the leader class overall for retail releases.
For regular retail releases:
Combiner Wars was 6 Leaders across 3 molds for a 18 month line. And the result was Skywarp shelfwarming pretty bad.
Titans Return was 6 leaders across 4-5 molds for an 18 month line, depending on how you count Sky Shadow/Overlord. And the result was Overlord at heavy Discount for those lucky enough to have an Ollie's.
PotP was 4 leaders across 3 molds for a 12 month line. And the result was Optimus Primal, the fan vote, not really hitting retail until it was almost time for clearance.
What I'm seeing is that apparently Leader class figures just don't move as well in general at regular release. As a parent, this actually makes all the sense in the world to me. I'm not dropping $50 on a toy for one of my kids unless I know they are way into it, have a collection, etc. And even then a $50 toy would almost certainly be reserved for birthday/Christmas, or if they saved up their own money. That would mean that the main buyer for leader class would generally be a collector (adult or kid) as opposed to a casual fan/parent where dropping $20 on a smaller figure would make more sense.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004666)
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:51pm CST
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:51pm CST
I picked up Siege Megatron yesterday, and he's missing one of the little gray wheels under his treads. Doesn't matter to me, I'm taking them off anyway, but I don't recall a QC issue like this on a Hasbro toy... pretty much ever. Hm.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004668)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:52pm CST
My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:52pm CST
Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I picked up Siege Megatron yesterday, and he's missing one of the little gray wheels under his treads. Doesn't matter to me, I'm taking them off anyway, but I don't recall a QC issue like this on a Hasbro toy... pretty much ever. Hm.
My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004669)
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:56pm CST
...and the Joker got away... Hey!
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:56pm CST
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.
...and the Joker got away... Hey!
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004670)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:58pm CST
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 14th, 2019 @ 12:58pm CST
o.supreme wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.
...and the Joker got away... Hey!
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004672)
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on January 14th, 2019 @ 1:07pm CST
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on January 14th, 2019 @ 1:07pm CST
Holy crap, you guys are both hilarious and fast! I salute you!
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004675)
Posted by Skritz on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
That's a fairly accurate assessment; Leader Class figures aren't the material of 'impulse buy' from parents/kids. They cost too much for a casual purchase. Combine this with most recent Leaders not being a bankable character to casual audiences and parents (Rodimus, Optimus Primal, all the TR Leaders not Powermaster Prime) and that's how you get shelfwarming Sixshot and Overlord who should be, by all account, fairly decent figures which a kid would like. But the kids don't know them enough to be really invested into them and the parents see them as too pricy.
Posted by Skritz on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message boards. This is of course only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.
I actually believe Hasbro may be pulling back on the leader class overall for retail releases.
For regular retail releases:
Combiner Wars was 6 Leaders across 3 molds for a 18 month line. And the result was Skywarp shelfwarming pretty bad.
Titans Return was 6 leaders across 4-5 molds for an 18 month line, depending on how you count Sky Shadow/Overlord. And the result was Overlord at heavy Discount for those lucky enough to have an Ollie's.
PotP was 4 leaders across 3 molds for a 12 month line. And the result was Optimus Primal, the fan vote, not really hitting retail until it was almost time for clearance.
What I'm seeing is that apparently Leader class figures just don't move as well in general at regular release. As a parent, this actually makes all the sense in the world to me. I'm not dropping $50 on a toy for one of my kids unless I know they are way into it, have a collection, etc. And even then a $50 toy would almost certainly be reserved for birthday/Christmas, or if they saved up their own money. That would mean that the main buyer for leader class would generally be a collector (adult or kid) as opposed to a casual fan/parent where dropping $20 on a smaller figure would make more sense.
That's a fairly accurate assessment; Leader Class figures aren't the material of 'impulse buy' from parents/kids. They cost too much for a casual purchase. Combine this with most recent Leaders not being a bankable character to casual audiences and parents (Rodimus, Optimus Primal, all the TR Leaders not Powermaster Prime) and that's how you get shelfwarming Sixshot and Overlord who should be, by all account, fairly decent figures which a kid would like. But the kids don't know them enough to be really invested into them and the parents see them as too pricy.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004678)
Posted by Flashwave on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:44pm CST
I agree with most of what you are saying, Hasbro pulling back, Retailers not as interested in big ticket TFs, but I wouldnt be as quick to count Overlord and Primal, simply because they were something of a victim of circumstance. For Overlord, the Ollie's Stock came from TRU, and there were quite a few Sky Shadows in that mix as well. (Sadly, I never got one...) Primal cpuld be the Retailers not ordering stock or it could be Hasbro was late getting him out, but either way I am still more inclined to blame Distribution thsn lack of interest. Although to be fair, Optimal Optimus did not have thr fandom jumping up and down like Prime and Rodimus did.
Posted by Flashwave on January 14th, 2019 @ 2:44pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message boards. This is of course only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.
I actually believe Hasbro may be pulling back on the leader class overall for retail releases.
For regular retail releases:
Combiner Wars was 6 Leaders across 3 molds for a 18 month line. And the result was Skywarp shelfwarming pretty bad.
Titans Return was 6 leaders across 4-5 molds for an 18 month line, depending on how you count Sky Shadow/Overlord. And the result was Overlord at heavy Discount for those lucky enough to have an Ollie's.
PotP was 4 leaders across 3 molds for a 12 month line. And the result was Optimus Primal, the fan vote, not really hitting retail until it was almost time for clearance.
What I'm seeing is that apparently Leader class figures just don't move as well in general at regular release. As a parent, this actually makes all the sense in the world to me. I'm not dropping $50 on a toy for one of my kids unless I know they are way into it, have a collection, etc. And even then a $50 toy would almost certainly be reserved for birthday/Christmas, or if they saved up their own money. That would mean that the main buyer for leader class would generally be a collector (adult or kid) as opposed to a casual fan/parent where dropping $20 on a smaller figure would make more sense.
I agree with most of what you are saying, Hasbro pulling back, Retailers not as interested in big ticket TFs, but I wouldnt be as quick to count Overlord and Primal, simply because they were something of a victim of circumstance. For Overlord, the Ollie's Stock came from TRU, and there were quite a few Sky Shadows in that mix as well. (Sadly, I never got one...) Primal cpuld be the Retailers not ordering stock or it could be Hasbro was late getting him out, but either way I am still more inclined to blame Distribution thsn lack of interest. Although to be fair, Optimal Optimus did not have thr fandom jumping up and down like Prime and Rodimus did.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004684)
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Which is pretty crazy considering he was the fan vote. But yes, of the 3 leaders, I think he was the most poorly recieved as none of his modes were deemed better than the other two molds.
I just wanted to say that any distribution problem with Primal could not come from hasbro being late since the product was already appearing in other markets at the designated time.
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Flashwave wrote:I agree with most of what you are saying, Hasbro pulling back, Retailers not as interested in big ticket TFs, but I wouldnt be as quick to count Overlord and Primal, simply because they were something of a victim of circumstance. For Overlord, the Ollie's Stock came from TRU, and there were quite a few Sky Shadows in that mix as well. (Sadly, I never got one...) Primal cpuld be the Retailers not ordering stock or it could be Hasbro was late getting him out, but either way I am still more inclined to blame Distribution thsn lack of interest. Although to be fair, Optimal Optimus did not have thr fandom jumping up and down like Prime and Rodimus did.
Which is pretty crazy considering he was the fan vote. But yes, of the 3 leaders, I think he was the most poorly recieved as none of his modes were deemed better than the other two molds.
I just wanted to say that any distribution problem with Primal could not come from hasbro being late since the product was already appearing in other markets at the designated time.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004685)
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:11pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:11pm CST
Not saying you guys are wrong, but I don't seem to be living in a world of "shelf warming leaders", not since CW Skywarp at least. If I had not purchased TR Sixshot and Overlord on first sight, there's a good chance I would not have them.
However, If they are scaling back in production all around with Leader Class, I can agree that would be a wise choice, they only made 2 Leaders in the first year of SS, and considering there is only one chain in my area that carries them (Target), that limits their availability, as they are constantly going in-and-out of stock. Also this is good, because hopefully the 2019 Leaders (Jetfire & DotM Megatorn) will be *easier* to find, for those that want them.
However, If they are scaling back in production all around with Leader Class, I can agree that would be a wise choice, they only made 2 Leaders in the first year of SS, and considering there is only one chain in my area that carries them (Target), that limits their availability, as they are constantly going in-and-out of stock. Also this is good, because hopefully the 2019 Leaders (Jetfire & DotM Megatorn) will be *easier* to find, for those that want them.
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004688)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:29pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:29pm CST
Regarding Jhiaxus, his original robot mode from the G2 comics was something of a bastardization of the Seeker design (although his altmode looked more like Scourge's) and his Generations toy was no mere palette-swap - new wings, new head, new torso/nosecone-and-cockpit assembly, new weapons.
To my knowledge Straxus was only ever between the Seekers and the Insecticons in size. Where was he bigger?
Nah, that would be if Cybertron Megatron was missing a wheel:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Him too, but Straxus for sure. He was larger (both taller and bulkier), despite T-wing being a Pretender. And that's another gimmick that could be updated in the upcoming lines, the Pretenders. With today's engineering technology, it certainly can be done.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.
Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?
To my knowledge Straxus was only ever between the Seekers and the Insecticons in size. Where was he bigger?
o.supreme wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.
...and the Joker got away... Hey!
Nah, that would be if Cybertron Megatron was missing a wheel:
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004691)
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CST
Only Japan really deviated from the assortments and that isn't Hasbro. There were a few small markets like Hong Kong and Taiwan that got Punch/Counterpunch and Wreck-Gar, but that's more about Hasbro giving up on trying to figure out how to make them exclusives and just tossing them out there and as far as I know they didn't change the assortments around to accommodate them.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CST
o.supreme wrote:A couple things... the number of *13* PotP deluxes is only the most basic general release number for the United States, other deluxes which were specific retailer exclusives for the US, were regular releases in other countries.
Only Japan really deviated from the assortments and that isn't Hasbro. There were a few small markets like Hong Kong and Taiwan that got Punch/Counterpunch and Wreck-Gar, but that's more about Hasbro giving up on trying to figure out how to make them exclusives and just tossing them out there and as far as I know they didn't change the assortments around to accommodate them.
Emerje
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004711)
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2019 @ 5:22pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 14th, 2019 @ 5:22pm CST
So I swung by a local Target on my way home today and the Siege truly has begun!
Something did seem off though
Something did seem off though
Re: New Transformers Siege Sightings for Canada and Australia (2004717)
Posted by starrhero on January 14th, 2019 @ 6:07pm CST
Did someone actually swap the figure?!
This is the first time I've ever actually seen this happen. I've only ever heard of it via the TFWiki.
Posted by starrhero on January 14th, 2019 @ 6:07pm CST
carytheone wrote:So I swung by a local Target on my way home today and the Siege truly has begun!
Something did seem off though
Did someone actually swap the figure?!
This is the first time I've ever actually seen this happen. I've only ever heard of it via the TFWiki.
