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New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer

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Friday, May 16th, 2014 8:55AM CDT

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The official TransformersGame YouTube channel has uploaded a new trailer for the upcoming Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark. The game will release next month on the 24th for all major gaming consoles. Check out the trailer embedded below:

Will you be ready when two worlds collide? Check out the exclusive new trailer for TRANSFORMERS: RISE OF THE DARK SPARK available June 24 for Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, Wii U, 3DS, and PC.


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Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574605)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:09am CDT
I see a few generic dudes and a big guy. I'm guessing these are game-only opponents.

Drift's face looks more fitting when rendered in these game graphics than it does in the movie's look.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574649)
Posted by Crystiallic on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:47am CDT
Bruticus... O'Bruticus, where are your buddies at?
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574664)
Posted by It Is Him on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:24am CDT
Yawnsville.

Still waiting on more info for the 3DS WayForward version.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574760)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on May 16th, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
Sorry guys. Video is private.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574763)
Posted by NECRONOMICON on May 16th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CDT
There has been a lot of debate as to whether Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark will have online PVP multiplayer matches similar to Fall of Cybertron's: Deathmatch, Capture the Flag, and Headhunter.

Well....it looks like we can put the rumors to rest, because it seems certain that ROTDS has axed all online multiplayer other than Escalation.

This is based on the recently released In Game trophies for ROTDS shown here: Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (PS3) Trophies - PS3Trophies.org

Notably, there are no trophies related to any multiplayer achievements other than Escalation.

Compare this to the in game trophies for "Fall of Cybertron", which contains nine PVP multiplayer trophies: Transformers: Fall of Cybertron Trophies - PS3Trophies.org

• Reconfiguration Matrix - Create a custom character in Multiplayer
• Headmaster! - Reach max level in a single class
• King of the Scrap Heap - Reach max level in all four classes
• What Prime Directives? - Unlock Prime Mode
• Full Throttle Scramble Power! - Earn MVP in any game mode during a public Multiplayer match
• Ultimate Menasor - Capture three flags in a single CTF game during a public Multiplayer match
• Moonbase One - Personally capture all 3 nodes in a conquest game during a public Multiplayer match
• Ballistic Energon Goodie - Return five heads at once in a headhunter game during a public Multiplayer match
• Heavy Metal War - Kill 6 different opposing players in a TDM game during a public Multiplayer match

So, for all the fans who are planning to pre-order the game because they were looking forward to more online PVP matches, it looks like this game should be downgraded from BUY to RENT.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574791)
Posted by SlyTF1 on May 16th, 2014 @ 7:24pm CDT
Just because there are no trophies for it doesn't mean it's not there. People always complain about having to play multiplayer to platinum a game. Maybe the developers are finally listening.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574824)
Posted by VirusCarnage on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:08pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Just because there are no trophies for it doesn't mean it's not there. People always complain about having to play multiplayer to platinum a game. Maybe the developers are finally listening.

There's also been no note of PVP MP in the press releases.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574825)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:10pm CDT
so why post a video no one can see... pretty lame!
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574831)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:24pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:so why post a video no one can see... pretty lame!
It wasn't private at first. I watched it this morning when it was first posted. It was made private later in the day.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574836)
Posted by BeastProwl on May 17th, 2014 @ 12:23am CDT
It Is Him wrote:WayForward

You see, when people post WayForward I get my hopes up. Ive never played a bad WayForward game. Then again ive only played 2 of them, so my hopes could mean squat here.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574905)
Posted by It Is Him on May 17th, 2014 @ 9:11am CDT
BeastProwl wrote:
It Is Him wrote:WayForward

You see, when people post WayForward I get my hopes up. Ive never played a bad WayForward game. Then again ive only played 2 of them, so my hopes could mean squat here.


I've played more than a few, and they've all been super excellent.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574906)
Posted by It Is Him on May 17th, 2014 @ 9:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:A friend of mine who has a subscription to Game Informer let me borrow his May 2014 issue to let me transcribe its article on Rise of the Dark Spark for all to see:

Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark


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Handheld strategy

Details are scarce, but Activision has also brought on developer WayForward to create a separate 3DS game that bears the same title – a tactical RPG starring the Autobots and Decepticons. “This version features a compelling twist allowing fans to play through a tactical strategy game," says produce Andy Owen. “Players will plot their next move on detailed strategic maps and then engage in epic one-on-one 3D battle sequences featuring over 50 Transformers characters."


Holy cow! Thanks, Sabrblade!
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1574999)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 17th, 2014 @ 4:16pm CDT
Thanks from a tip by Seibertron.com user NECRONOMICON, we are pointed in the direction of the Xbox Achievements and PlayStation Trophies of the upcoming video game, Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark! They are as follows:

Aligned - Choose your allegiance.

Peace through Tyranny - Defeat 250 Autobots.

It Was An Honor - Defeat 250 Decepticons or mercenaries.

Short Circuit - Reach Level 5.

Perfect - Reach Level 10.

You Got The Touch - Reach Level 25.

Covenant of Primus - Activate Prime Mode.

It’s The Thought That Counts - Open 3 Gear Boxes.

Tough - Make it through Wave 5 in Escalation.

Double Tough - Make it through Wave 10 in Escalation.

Double Tough Hard - Make it through Wave 15 in Escalation.

Hmm, Upgrades - Upgrade any installation to max level in Escalation.

You Get Nothing, Good Day Sir - Slow down the reverse engineering project.

Make Peace, Not War - Destroy Lockdown's Weapon Caches.

Somebody's Watching Me - Find all the Stalker's Observations.

Make It Rain - Discover the fate of the Entrepreneur.

Spoils of War - Listen to all the Veteran's laments.

Snitches Get Stitches - As Drift, destroy all the Anti-Alien Propaganda Billboards.

My Blade Has Tasted Better - As Drift, defeat 25 enemies with the Blade Dash ability.

Spectacularly Amazing! - As Sideswipe, get through the whole chasm using less than 6 grapples.

Softly Softly Catchee Monkey - As Swindle, defeat Cliffjumper without causing any collateral damage.

No One Gets Outta Here Alive! - Destroy everything outside the Gates of Kaon.

What Could Go Wrong? - As Optimus, complete the rescue of Cliffjumper without using the turret.

I'd Like To Leave Here Please - As Jetfire, escape the ruins of Trypticon without taking any damage from the laser gates.

Sting Like A... - As Bumblebee, defeat a sniper with a melee attack.

Tread Lightly - As Grimlock, prevent Optimus from falling below 50% health while defending him.

Give Me The News Doc - Heal 50000 health points amongst you and your allies.

Need... Oil... Can - Defeat 75 enemies that are slowed.

Bleeding Edge - Complete the game with a HACK active.

Of Merit and Distinction - Earn 250 Combat Distinctions.

Challenge Accepted - Complete 50 Challenges.

Blasters! Blasters! Blasters! - Unlock every weapon.

This Weapon of Iron & Wood - Fully upgrade a primary weapon.

VROOM-pire! - Defeat 50 enemies by siphoning their health away with the Energon Harvester.

Y U Heff 2 B Mad? - Use the V32.Cybr Corrupt@r on a Power Foe and have them defeat an enemy.

Shadow Company - Defeat 25 enemies after using the Cloak ability.

Thumbs Up Soldier! - Defeat 35 enemies using throwback damage from the Kinetic Capacitor Shield ability.

Marked for Destruction - Defeat 50 enemies marked with E.D.U.

Turret Buddy - Defeat 25 enemies with your Battle Sentry.

healing.exe - Repair 5000 points of damage with your Repair Sentry.

Quartermaster - Resupply 250 times with the Ammo Supply Core.

Totally OP - Defeat 100 enemies with the Riot Cannon.

I Hope You Have Insurance - Heal 15000 health points with your Heal Beam.

Scrapped - Use Explosive Path to defeat 35 enemies.

Tormenta - Use Thunder Blast to earn 35 multi kills.

Loadsa Money - Earn 25000 Energon Shards.

What Does This Do? - Use 50 T.E.C.H.

It's Not A Sprint - Drive or Fly 26 miles (42km).

[b]Full Metal Jacket[/b] - Reload 1000 times.

Welcome to Earth! - Defeat Lockdown.


Fans of the previous games will notice that there seems to be no achievements/trophies for competitive multiplayer. Does this mean that there will only be Campaign and Escalation modes? Will this affect your decision in purchasing this game? Share your thoughts in the Energon Pup forums!
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575005)
Posted by dreadwing95 on May 17th, 2014 @ 4:33pm CDT
i am a little annoyed by it. i still get depending on characters are in it and when i see more gameplay
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575011)
Posted by It Is Him on May 17th, 2014 @ 5:00pm CDT
It sounds like getting to level 25 is for competitive multiplayer.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575013)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 17th, 2014 @ 5:06pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:It sounds like getting to level 25 is for competitive multiplayer.


Leveling is said to be shared between Campaign and "multiplayer", according to IGN.

Similarly, the game's levelling system will be shared across the single and multiplayer portions of the game, so experience earned in one can be used in the other to unlock new characters, abilities and weapons.


I know we covered this before, I just couldn't find the specific article. :oops:
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575016)
Posted by VirusCarnage on May 17th, 2014 @ 5:22pm CDT
Looks like no competitive MP, not entirely surprised by it though. On the plus side it looks like it'll be a really easy plat.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575018)
Posted by Gearslide on May 17th, 2014 @ 5:35pm CDT
Having played both War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, I can honestly say that I won't miss the removal of PVP multiplayer. It was tolerable in the first one, and I couldn't bring myself to play it in the second. And both rapidly degenerated into lobbies of people boosting achievements/trophies.

Besides, I always like Co-op over PVP in games, and Escalation in WFC was one of my favorite things in any game. Looking forward to how it plays in this, even if High Moon isn't making the game.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575028)
Posted by Knives on May 17th, 2014 @ 6:59pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:Having played both War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, I can honestly say that I won't miss the removal of PVP multiplayer. It was tolerable in the first one, and I couldn't bring myself to play it in the second. And both rapidly degenerated into lobbies of people boosting achievements/trophies.

Besides, I always like Co-op over PVP in games, and Escalation in WFC was one of my favorite things in any game. Looking forward to how it plays in this, even if High Moon isn't making the game.


Escalation was the main online draw for me as well. I was in fact disappointed that we couldn't take our customized bots into escalation. Or that we were stuck with pre-made teams with the same four abilities. Here's hoping that no more PvP leads into far more options for Co-op.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575029)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2014 @ 6:59pm CDT
"Aligned" is now an officially official term (rather than the informal, semi-official term that it's been up till this point).

Also, there are references to Willy Wonka and Independence Day in those achievements. :P
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575052)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on May 17th, 2014 @ 8:56pm CDT
well thats one bit of good news if its true, competitive multyplayer has ruined many games as of late & its nice to see someone not throwing it on & wasting resources. But the lack of achievements doesnt mean outright theres no online, there just might not be any online achievements. There are a lot of pople out there who hate them cause they either cant play online or hate online & because of that they cant get all the achievements or get the platinum trophy. Plus hasbro wants to push transformers universe so they dont want competition from their own products.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575056)
Posted by VirusCarnage on May 17th, 2014 @ 9:03pm CDT
I have found the PVP multiplayer to be the most appealing in HMS games, escalation was always the last thing I played, so I'm pretty disappointed with this.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575071)
Posted by Thalack on May 17th, 2014 @ 10:33pm CDT
Hopefully this isn't true, I know there are a fair amount of people who enjoy the multiplayer far more than anything else.

Personally, it doesn't affect me much. As long s the single player is decent. It's a Transformers game, and those more so than others, I tend to replay the campaigns over and over again.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575072)
Posted by BERSEKAEL on May 17th, 2014 @ 10:42pm CDT
Multiplayer online might be DLC, with DLC thophies.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575093)
Posted by leokearon on May 18th, 2014 @ 3:22am CDT
Since I never play any of my games online, this doesn't affect me.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575228)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2014 @ 4:22pm CDT
Regarding that new trailer that was made private, another user uploaded it here.

Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575229)
Posted by VirusCarnage on May 18th, 2014 @ 4:26pm CDT
This trailer does a much better job of getting me excited for the game then the previous mediocre ones.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575236)
Posted by dreadwing95 on May 18th, 2014 @ 5:42pm CDT
cant tell if those are man made bots or actual decepticons
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575239)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on May 18th, 2014 @ 6:01pm CDT
No Online Multiplayer trophies?! Ohhhh noooo...... How horrrrrrible.......... >:oP >:oP
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575240)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2014 @ 6:16pm CDT
Hey, how come the PlayStation Trophies list has one more that the Xbox Achievements list doesn't have?
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575254)
Posted by VirusCarnage on May 18th, 2014 @ 7:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Hey, how come the PlayStation Trophies list has one more that the Xbox Achievements list doesn't have?

I believe that's because PlayStation has a platinum trophy for getting all other trophies while the Xbox doesn't.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575310)
Posted by BERSEKAEL on May 19th, 2014 @ 4:25am CDT
Only good thing fron this crossover is bruticus... I dont like much that fall of cybertron series.

I wish cyberverse g1 redeco of that toy, too many autobots already. :grin: :grin:
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1575342)
Posted by lupinesithlord on May 19th, 2014 @ 8:56am CDT
Thank goodness... The multiplayer was so broken and atrocious in the first one I hesitated at getting the second. I hope that this indicates a longer campaign setting which is where the previous incarnations thrived.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1576151)
Posted by El Duque on May 21st, 2014 @ 7:34pm CDT
As we know from the previous trailer for Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark the Fall of Cybertron Combaticons and their combined form Bruticus will be a featured character. Now thanks to Game Trailers we have a new trailer devoted just to the aforementioned Bruticus.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1576152)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2014 @ 7:41pm CDT
YouTube version for those who prefer it:

Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1576156)
Posted by Shockwave7 on May 21st, 2014 @ 8:20pm CDT
Pretty neat. Oh, if ONLY the WFC figures looked anything like that...

Wish they could have made him sound more like the G1 cartoon voice. Wouldn't have been that tough.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1576158)
Posted by The Thuggernaut on May 21st, 2014 @ 8:41pm CDT
Cliffjumper :shock: ... moving on, Shockwave is way to small comparing him to Bruticus's limbs, or better put, Bruticus is represented too big. But that's just my inner nerd talking :-B scale issues are nothing new.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577131)
Posted by ChrisRiss on May 26th, 2014 @ 12:47am CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgDTE_E0-JE Here is a new trailer for the game, shows both sides of the game pretty well. I would embed it, but I can't seem to figure out how.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577186)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 26th, 2014 @ 9:25am CDT
ChrisRiss wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgDTE_E0-JE Here is a new trailer for the game, shows both sides of the game pretty well. I would embed it, but I can't seem to figure out how.


It's the same trailer from before, when they uploaded it but then they quickly took it down and some other users were able to get it back up.

As for embedding, take the last bit of coding in the URL after the "watch?v=" and place it within the "[youtube][/youtube]". It will then end up like this:



;)
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577367)
Posted by ChrisRiss on May 26th, 2014 @ 8:34pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
ChrisRiss wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgDTE_E0-JE Here is a new trailer for the game, shows both sides of the game pretty well. I would embed it, but I can't seem to figure out how.


It's the same trailer from before, when they uploaded it but then they quickly took it down and some other users were able to get it back up.

As for embedding, take the last bit of coding in the URL after the "watch?v=" and place it within the "[youtube][/youtube]". It will then end up like this:



;)


Ahh, thank you.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577831)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 28th, 2014 @ 9:18pm CDT
We've seen Drift in action briefly in an earlier trailer for the upcoming Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark video game that was, unforunately, taken down shortly after its uploading. Now, we get to see forty seconds of the former Decepticon in all his Bugatti glory! Take a look at what the samurai-esque Autobot's bringing to the table in this brief new trailer.

Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577848)
Posted by ConBotFormer on May 28th, 2014 @ 9:56pm CDT
Drift looks great.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577866)
Posted by macpherson46 on May 28th, 2014 @ 11:17pm CDT
Spoiler aleret dont watch if u dont wanna know boute drifts side
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577867)
Posted by Spleenzorio on May 28th, 2014 @ 11:24pm CDT
macpherson46 wrote:Spoiler aleret dont watch if u dont wanna know boute drifts side


There's no spoilers, it's him shooting a gun and stabbing a dude.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577870)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2014 @ 11:28pm CDT
macpherson46 wrote:Spoiler aleret dont watch if u dont wanna know boute drifts side
Hasbro.com already gave that away a long time ago - http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/characters.cfm?bot=Autobot_Drift

Besides, at this point, it's looking like there won't even be any Decepticons in the movie anyway.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1577936)
Posted by BERSEKAEL on May 29th, 2014 @ 5:51am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
macpherson46 wrote:Spoiler aleret dont watch if u dont wanna know boute drifts side
Hasbro.com already gave that away a long time ago - http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/characters.cfm?bot=Autobot_Drift

Besides, at this point, it's looking like there won't even be any Decepticons in the movie anyway.


Thats right, no decepticons :-(
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1578030)
Posted by Deadput on May 29th, 2014 @ 1:52pm CDT
BERSEKAEL wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
macpherson46 wrote:Spoiler aleret dont watch if u dont wanna know boute drifts side
Hasbro.com already gave that away a long time ago - http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/characters.cfm?bot=Autobot_Drift

Besides, at this point, it's looking like there won't even be any Decepticons in the movie anyway.


Thats right, no decepticons :-(


Because you guys forgot about the garbage truck Junkheap who is also a returning character

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Junkheap_(DOTM)
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1578052)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2014 @ 3:22pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Because you guys forgot about the garbage truck Junkheap who is also a returning character

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Junkheap_(DOTM)
Prove it!

Prove to me right now that the garbage truck we saw in the filming video is the exact same person as the garbage truck Decepticon who appeared in DOTM. Prove to me right now that "Junkheap" is the name of the DOTM guy and not anything else.

Don't give me hearsay or speculation or coincidences. I want hard facts and official confirmations from the filmmakers and companies in charges.

Otherwise, stop shooting down possibilities that you don't want to consider just because you don't like the sound of them. Wait and see what the film says before invoking any absolutes.
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1578059)
Posted by Deadput on May 29th, 2014 @ 3:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Because you guys forgot about the garbage truck Junkheap who is also a returning character

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Junkheap_(DOTM)
Prove it!

Prove to me right now that the garbage truck we saw in the filming video is the exact same person as the garbage truck Decepticon who appeared in DOTM. Prove to me right now that "Junkheap" is the name of the DOTM guy and not anything else.

Don't give me hearsay or speculation or coincidences. I want hard facts and official confirmations from the filmmakers and companies in charges.

Otherwise, stop shooting down possibilities that you don't want to consider just because you don't like the sound of them. Wait and see what the film says before invoking any absolutes.


First of all....rude


second of all they are pretty much the same type of garbage truck



look at the toy you can see the upside down long haul head i will highlight it

Image



And dude i'm allowed to have my opinion unless proven otherwise


and when did i say i did not like the sound of them?

are you trying to start crap?
Re: New Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer (1578071)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2014 @ 4:05pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:second of all they are pretty much the same type of garbage truck
I asked for no speculations or coincidences.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:look at the toy you can see the upside down long haul head i will highlight it
Again, you're speculating. Similar heads mean nothing without confirmation.

Look at Blackout and Grindor, for instance.

Or even Long Haul and Igor.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:And dude i'm allowed to have my opinion unless proven otherwise
As is anyone else. Yet every time the idea of the film having no Decepticons is brought into consideration, you tend to come to silence it.

Why can't this idea be explored?

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:and when did i say i did not like the sound of them?
Well, that's the impression that's usually made from anyone who tries to oppose another's viewpoint. If you do not feel any distaste towards the idea then I apologize.

But then that does beg the question of why you seem to override it each time it's mentioned.

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