New Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Images in Figure King Magazine
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Posted by Ironhidensh on June 22nd, 2016 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 22nd, 2016 @ 1:06pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:I'm starting to get a very bad parts forming feeling on the Beast head / robot chest of this figure.
I'm pretty sure it won't be a parts-former, TT's clever like that, but I understand you're anxiety, I too am hoping it turns out perfectly
Posted by shajaki on June 22nd, 2016 @ 1:23pm CDT
Take solace in examples of their wizardry: Inferno, Ironhide, Hotrod, Prime, Wheeljack, Bee, ect. All of them have either remarkable engineering or faux pieces masking those for the sake of aesthetics.Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm pretty sure it won't be a parts-former, TT's clever like that, but I understand you're anxiety, I too am hoping it turns out perfectlyIronhidensh wrote:I'm starting to get a very bad parts forming feeling on the Beast head / robot chest of this figure.
Posted by shajaki on June 25th, 2016 @ 8:06pm CDT
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Posted by RevTibe on June 25th, 2016 @ 9:02pm CDT
(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)
Posted by Zeedust on June 25th, 2016 @ 9:05pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 25th, 2016 @ 9:07pm CDT
Posted by RevTibe on June 25th, 2016 @ 9:26pm CDT
shajaki wrote:And that target audience from back in the day are adults now. And this is a line geared towards adult collectors.Sabrblade wrote:Cheetor's a yellow kid appeal character who was the target audience's gateway character. Even though Dinobot had a more meaningful role from an objective narrative standpoint, an argument could be made for Cheetor being a more subjectively popular character with the show's target audience of children back in the day.shajaki wrote:Sorry Sabre, I'm with Whitemest (welcome BTW!) on this. I understand fully that Primal would be the first. But the only one I'd have felt ok with being released next if it wasn't going to be Dinobot, is Megatron. He's a big enough deal that he should easily trump Cheetor.
Two things we should keep in mind; firstly, this is being produced from a Japanese perspective, and the English-speaking fan favorites might not line up perfectly with what Takara's primary market wants.
Secondly, Beast Wars was released in Japan in this order; Beast Wars season 1, the two BW animes, then Beast BW seasons 2 and 3 (as "Beast Wars: Metals"). By that time interest in Beast Wars had started to wane, and a lot of the big stuff that cemented Dinobot as a fan favorite happened in season 2.
Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2016 @ 10:50pm CDT
*shrug* Most of the original Transmetal toys for the characters who became Transmetals in the show were already the stuff of near perfection anyway.RevTibe wrote:(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)
If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".
Posted by RevTibe on June 25th, 2016 @ 11:09pm CDT
Hey, I can dream :P Although they're visually very accurate, Transformers engineering has really advanced in the past two decades - would be a shame to see the Transmetals cursed by their own show accuracy to never receive updates.Sabrblade wrote:*shrug* Most of the original Transmetal toys for the characters who became Transmetals in the show were already the stuff of near perfection anyway. ;)RevTibe wrote:(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)
If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".
TM Rattrap's actually the one I've thought about the most (currently customizing one). One of the weaknesses of the mold is how a significant portion of the rat's butt is a hollow brick - open that up, add some basic compression to the arms/legs, and we can stuff Rattrap's robot bits more efficiently into the rat mode. This would clean up his messy undercarriage, but could also lead to a larger robot mode in relation to his rat mode, meaning the rat head pauldrons would be closer to the show's shrunken proportions.
That, and Rattrap needs half a dozen more accessories :P Have the wheels pop off as shields, his gun, explosive charges, spare gun or two from the Coming of the Fuzors showdown...
Posted by william-james88 on June 26th, 2016 @ 8:48am CDT
RevTibe wrote:Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.
Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.
Posted by Kurona on June 26th, 2016 @ 9:07am CDT
william-james88 wrote:RevTibe wrote:Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.
Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.
I feel it'd be the best way to do a lot of them, Rattrap and Waspinator included. When the beast mode heads formed the chest, in the cartoon they tended to look a lot more flattened down than could possibly be replicated in plastic form. If the Beast Wars MP line continues, I'd personally expect to see a lot of faux beast mode chests.
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 26th, 2016 @ 9:56am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 26th, 2016 @ 10:21am CDT
Besides Primal, of course.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 26th, 2016 @ 10:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.
Besides Primal, of course.
Well, I'm pretty sure they won't be able to do a fake with Megatron...
Posted by Kurona on June 26th, 2016 @ 10:37am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.
Besides Primal, of course.
Megatron, Terrorsaur, Scorponok, maybe Rhinox.
Dunno about Tarantulas.
So basically one definite yes, two maybes and two guys which are probably the last ones people want from an MP Beast Wars line.
Posted by Starsaber468 on June 26th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 26th, 2016 @ 11:45pm CDT
Why would we be talking about Super Ginrai in the Masterpiece Cheetor thread?Starsaber468 wrote:Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it
Posted by william-james88 on June 27th, 2016 @ 5:43am CDT
Starsaber468 wrote:Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it
There is not much talk here because this is thread for Cheetor.
However, we have not seen those photos you speak of so if you have them, please send them to us by clicking on the link in my signature so we can news them.
Posted by Powered Convoy on June 28th, 2016 @ 7:17am CDT
http://www.allspark.com/2016/06/ultra-h ... ers-scans/
Posted by Emerje on July 24th, 2016 @ 12:31am CDT
Looks like fans of lightpiped eyes in Masterpiece are getting their wish. I hate that, but the figure otherwise looks fantastic!
Emerje
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 24th, 2016 @ 12:32am CDT
Posted by wilcosu35 on July 24th, 2016 @ 12:39am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on July 24th, 2016 @ 2:45am CDT
Please fix.
Posted by Emerje on July 24th, 2016 @ 7:11am CDT
Emerje
Posted by primalxconvoy on July 24th, 2016 @ 7:25am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 24th, 2016 @ 7:30am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Thanks.
Its fixed and looking awesome!
Posted by Ballistic90 on July 24th, 2016 @ 7:56am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 24th, 2016 @ 8:55am CDT
Posted by SureShot18 on July 24th, 2016 @ 9:59am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 24th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CDT
Now THAT's gorgeous!
Posted by BluePhirePB on July 24th, 2016 @ 12:55pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 25th, 2016 @ 9:41pm CDT
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??
But back to Cheetus, yeah, if you're a fan, looks like this isn't to be missed.
I will say the waist/crotch looks a little off somehow.
No joke intended, but it looks a little flat, and the whole section looks a bit big.
But I could be wrong.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2016 @ 9:44pm CDT
Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 25th, 2016 @ 9:53pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??
Obv the could make him smaller. I just wonder if they would want to.
While I'm sure MP doesn't completely stick to a standard scale, if Megatron was only a bit bigger than Primal, I think that could be very underwhelming.
Especially for a MP.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2016 @ 10:06pm CDT
You do know that MP Ultra Magnus is a BIG figure, right? BW Megs being around that size would put him on a much bigger size than Optimus Primal.Sowndwave76 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??
Obv the could make him smaller. I just wonder if they would want to.
While I'm sure MP doesn't completely stick to a standard scale, if Megatron was only a bit bigger than Primal, I think that could be very underwhelming.
Especially for a MP.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 25th, 2016 @ 10:26pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You do know that MP Ultra Magnus is a BIG figure, right? BW Megs being around that size would put him on a much bigger size than Optimus Primal.Sowndwave76 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??
Obv the could make him smaller. I just wonder if they would want to.
While I'm sure MP doesn't completely stick to a standard scale, if Megatron was only a bit bigger than Primal, I think that could be very underwhelming.
Especially for a MP.
Yes, thank you.
Posted by Rainmaker on July 29th, 2016 @ 5:04am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:17am CDT
Here are all the new official stock images, and the multiple angles give us our best look at the figure yet. Is the leg kibble fine for you? Let us know!
Posted by Randomhero on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:26am CDT
Looks nice. It's Cheetor, he literally has dozens of figures so it doesn't wow me but it's nice.
Posted by Ravage XK on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:06am CDT
Posted by Marcdachamp on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:57am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:09am CDT
Did you feel the same when they were like that in the show?Ravage XK wrote:The Cheetah legs hanging off the back of the bot mode look unpleasant, like some sort of unfinished fur coat. Think I would rather they unpegged.
Posted by Ravage XK on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Did you feel the same when they were like that in the show?Ravage XK wrote:The Cheetah legs hanging off the back of the bot mode look unpleasant, like some sort of unfinished fur coat. Think I would rather they unpegged.
No, I know its show accurate. I just think it would look sleeker without.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:33am CDT
Ravage XK wrote:No, I know its show accurate. I just think it would look sleeker without.
Whats not show accurate though are his legs in beast mode. I am having a really hard time with those robot feet hanging off there. I get that its for a better look in robot mode, but even then the animation model did have the beast feet as heels, so its not show accurate either.
I am happy with the rest (especially with the price) but that back area really bugs me. Super curious to see where that cheetah face ends up.
Posted by No One on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by alex1986lunatic on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:37am CDT
I wish TT would cease with gimmicks on these (different animal faces) and just make a figure that transformed from one authentic mode to the next. Maybe the gimmicks were included to make us forget about the flaws?
As it is, these two MP BW figs seem to be slightly more detailed, yet overpriced deluxe CHUGS, madeto compliment deluxe Rattrap and Rhinox (Dinobotand CHUG Cheetor does not count).
Posted by No One on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:44am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:This seems to suffer from the same design flaws as MP Optimus Primal; namely robot kibble hanging off the back/hindlegs/feet of the beast mode legs/feet.
I wish TT would cease with gimmicks on these (different animal faces) and just make a figure that transformed from one authentic mode to the next. Maybe the gimmicks were included to make us forget about the flaws?
As it is, these two MP BW figs seem to be slightly more detailed, yet overpriced deluxe CHUGS, madeto compliment deluxe Rattrap and Rhinox (Dinobotand CHUG Cheetor does not count).
^^THIS^^
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:01am CDT
Did it, though?william-james88 wrote:I get that its for a better look in robot mode, but even then the animation model did have the beast feet as heels,
I know the original toy had that, but it looks to me like the show model had the same kind of heels as this MP had:
Where else could they go? Cheetor's hindlegs were really thin in the show and just magically morphed into his thicker robot legs.primalxconvoy wrote:This seems to suffer from the same design flaws as MP Optimus Primal; namely robot kibble hanging off the back/hindlegs/feet of the beast mode legs/feet.
Besides, the original toy did that too.