New Takara Tomy Transformers Movie The Best MB-12 to MB-20 Announced

This list brings emotions ranging from happy to sad to confusion....

Based on prices, what can we assume?
3500 Deluxe, 5000 Voyager, 8000 Leader? , 10,000 Leader, 15,000 Leader... +?

From there, what can we assume?

MB-12 Autobot Jazz 3500 - Deluxe. Movie 1 mold. Why not the vastly superior HA mold?? They did it for Soundwave!

MB-13 Bonecrusher 3500 - Deluxe. Movie 1 mold. Rare these days so it's a good choice.

MB-14 Megatron 8000 - Starting to get dicey. Looking at the previous MB figure prices, no Voyagers were priced this high, so I gotta assume Leader. And there's only 3 Megs in that size class. Won't be TLK, ROTF has had multiple releases, so I'm betting on it being Movie 1.

MB-15 Lockdown 3500 - Deluxe. Pretty unexciting.

MB-16 Jetfire 10,000 - ROTF Leader obviously. Interested to see the deco.

MB-17 Optimus Prime Revenge Version 15,000 - I'm at a loss for this one. The only way to justify that price point for me is if it were Leader Prime + Upgrade. Like Jetwing. But that was DOTM. And Buster Prime was DOTM too wasn't it?

MB-18 War Hammer Bumblebee 3500 - Deluxe something. Too many Bee molds for me to speculate which one.

MB-19 Hound 5000 - Voyager AOE? Again, why rerelease a mold (TLK) that's still on shelves?

MB-20 Nemesis Prime 8000 - Leader.... AOE or TLK molds in TLK Nemesis colors. Best guess.



Thoughts?

I believe Buster Prime was the first takara release of the rotf leader Prime, for their rotf line. Though I could be mistaken. It was the first time we saw the gas canisters turning into his guns. Makes sense for it to be ROTF mould for the compatibility with Jetfire.


If the megatron is a leader, then it will be movie 1. Has to be. And I will not be interested. Oh well.

I would guess the nemesis will be the tlk in nemesis colours, with the remoulding on the back pack. I imagine that version would gather more interest in owning than the AOE version.

Insurgent wrote:I believe Buster Prime was the first takara release of the rotf leader Prime, for their rotf line. Though I could be mistaken.

Takara got the normal, non-Buster version of ROTF Prime before they made Buster.

I wish they released the Deluxe Soundwave Mercedes Benz mold in the best line. I got screwed with a Human Alliance Soundwave thinking it was the deluxe mold. I just keep him on display as a stand alone figure since he looks cool but scale-wise the mold sucks.

Nemesis will probably be a redeco of Caliber Optimus, and Hammer Bee is likely the new TLK mold.

shajaki wrote:Based on prices, what can we assume?
3500 Deluxe, 5000 Voyager, 8000 Leader? , 10,000 Leader, 15,000 Leader... +?

I think the higher price tags are or leaders with major accessories.

MB-12 Autobot Jazz 3500 - Deluxe. Movie 1 mold. Why not the vastly superior HA mold?? They did it for Soundwave!

Also confused by this choice.

MB-14 Megatron 8000 - Starting to get dicey. Looking at the previous MB figure prices, no Voyagers were priced this high, so I gotta assume Leader. And there's only 3 Megs in that size class. Won't be TLK, ROTF has had multiple releases, so I'm betting on it being Movie 1.

That would make sense, but the ROTF one is so much more of a beloved design. And the ton of releases never stopped another ROTF Leader Prime, so it could go either way.

MB-17 Optimus Prime Revenge Version 15,000 - I'm at a loss for this one. The only way to justify that price point for me is if it were Leader Prime + Upgrade. Like Jetwing. But that was DOTM. And Buster Prime was DOTM too wasn't it?

This could be to a Jetwing Leader prime made to resemble the end of the second film, hence the name Revenge. We never got a Jetwing Prime combo that was deco'd accurately (with black parts) so this could be it.

MB-19 Hound 5000 - Voyager AOE? Again, why rerelease a mold (TLK) that's still on shelves?

This one is super confusing.

MB-20 Nemesis Prime 8000 - Leader.... AOE or TLK molds in TLK Nemesis colors. Best guess.

I am thinking TLK Calibur Prime in Nemesis colours.

I dont think I will be getting any of these. The fun part of the first set was that many of them were elusive molds/decos. Many of these are far more recent and more easily obtained so I am a bit less excited. That jetfire deco is interesting but I hate that toy so much.

I noticed a lot of people are expecting re-uses of previous molds, I'm actually expecting whole new figures for this series, However, If they do re-use molds, I'm expecting them to re-use HA Jazz and Soundwave, because those were good figures. But I'm still hoping new molds all around.

Every release so far in this line has been repaints. That's why everyone is assuming these ones will be.

Budder Prime wrote:I noticed a lot of people are expecting re-uses of previous molds,

Because this line has been nothing but re-uses of previous molds.

Budder Prime wrote:I noticed a lot of people are expecting re-uses of previous molds, I'm actually expecting whole new figures for this series, However, If they do re-use molds, I'm expecting them to re-use HA Jazz and Soundwave, because those were good figures. But I'm still hoping new molds all around.

I could see some of that down the line, but not in this particular series. Also if you like that HA Soundwave mold, this series has already re-released it Sold out in many places but another run coming out in the next few months http://www.thechosenprime.com/MB07Soundwave

War Hammer Bumblebee? That sounds awesome! probably the new TLK Bee with his hammer, which sounds great. I was just going to get one of the third party hammers for the Hasbro release, but if this Bee has a better deco I'll be very tempted to get it.

Va'al wrote:MB-12 Autobot Jazz
MB-13 Bonecrusher
MB-14 Megatron
MB-15 Lockdown
MB-16 Jetfire
MB-17 Optimus Prime Revenge Version
MB-18 War Hammer Bumblebee
MB-19 Hound
MB-20 Nemesis Prime

Well, unless it is a new Jazz, I won't worry about it. Mold isn't that good and I already have one.

Bonecrusher... may need to see the deco. He is one of my favorite movie cons, and though I already have him, I'd like to take a look see at him.

Megs is no interest. I have all the Megatron I need with his great TLK toys.

Lockdown... Been wanting him, kind of excited to see where this goes.

Jetfire: already have. Same with Prime. Same with Bee, though at least they appear to be finally doing one with the hammer.

Hound is confusing. no interest in Nemesis.

It occurred to me this whole time I read it as MP as in Masterpiece, not MB which is Movie best.

Rated X wrote:I wish they released the Deluxe Soundwave Mercedes Benz mold in the best line. I got screwed with a Human Alliance Soundwave thinking it was the deluxe mold. I just keep him on display as a stand alone figure since he looks cool but scale-wise the mold sucks.

HA Soundwave is a AMAZING figure... displayed with other HA.

They really should have re-released the deluxe, unless they destroyed the mold for reasons. Also, how about a 3 pack collector set of the 3 DELUXE DOTM Wreckers? Because we got screwed out of deluxe Leadfoot as well.

I don't really see the logic in expecting TLK molds here, considering the two lines are running concurrently and Movie the Best is more of a specialty re-release line than anything else. That's just me I guess...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I don't really see the logic in expecting TLK molds here, considering the two lines are running concurrently and Movie the Best is more of a specialty re-release line than anything else. That's just me I guess...

Well I hope they don't use the Age of Extinction Hound mold, at least. That was a super disappointing figure. I'm also just hoping this is a relatively easy way to pick up the wave 3 TLK deluxe Bee, and if we're even luckier he'll get a bit of extra paint.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I don't really see the logic in expecting TLK molds here, considering the two lines are running concurrently and Movie the Best is more of a specialty re-release line than anything else. That's just me I guess...

Me neither. I'd expect any non current line to be there.


But TLK is very unlikely, as that would just double up on molds they are currently releasing already.

I'm guessing Megatron, and one of the Primes will likely be from AOE as well as Hound of course.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rated X wrote:I wish they released the Deluxe Soundwave Mercedes Benz mold in the best line. I got screwed with a Human Alliance Soundwave thinking it was the deluxe mold. I just keep him on display as a stand alone figure since he looks cool but scale-wise the mold sucks.

HA Soundwave is a AMAZING figure... displayed with other HA.

They really should have re-released the deluxe, unless they destroyed the mold for reasons. Also, how about a 3 pack collector set of the 3 DELUXE DOTM Wreckers? Because we got screwed out of deluxe Leadfoot as well.

But Takara did rerelease Deluxe Soundwave. He was part of their AOE line called Movie Advanced.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rated X wrote:I wish they released the Deluxe Soundwave Mercedes Benz mold in the best line. I got screwed with a Human Alliance Soundwave thinking it was the deluxe mold. I just keep him on display as a stand alone figure since he looks cool but scale-wise the mold sucks.

HA Soundwave is a AMAZING figure... displayed with other HA.

They really should have re-released the deluxe, unless they destroyed the mold for reasons. Also, how about a 3 pack collector set of the 3 DELUXE DOTM Wreckers? Because we got screwed out of deluxe Leadfoot as well.

But Takara did rerelease Deluxe Soundwave. He was part of their AOE line called Movie Advanced.

AD-17 Darkside Soundwave. Not a movie accurate deco but interesting nonetheless. So how much on EbNNOOOOOOOOPE.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rated X wrote:I wish they released the Deluxe Soundwave Mercedes Benz mold in the best line. I got screwed with a Human Alliance Soundwave thinking it was the deluxe mold. I just keep him on display as a stand alone figure since he looks cool but scale-wise the mold sucks.

HA Soundwave is a AMAZING figure... displayed with other HA.

They really should have re-released the deluxe, unless they destroyed the mold for reasons. Also, how about a 3 pack collector set of the 3 DELUXE DOTM Wreckers? Because we got screwed out of deluxe Leadfoot as well.

But Takara did rerelease Deluxe Soundwave. He was part of their AOE line called Movie Advanced.

AD-17 Darkside Soundwave. Not a movie accurate deco but interesting nonetheless. So how much on EbNNOOOOOOOOPE.

Yeah I'm happy o have jumped on the original preorder. Amazing paint job.

Maybe War Hammer Bumblebee will come with a bunch of little space marines.

Budder Prime wrote:I noticed a lot of people are expecting re-uses of previous molds, I'm actually expecting whole new figures for this series, However, If they do re-use molds, I'm expecting them to re-use HA Jazz and Soundwave, because those were good figures. But I'm still hoping new molds all around.

There are what's believed to be new molds coming out for older movie characters, those were leaked along with the PotP leaks, but I doubt any of these MB figures are those since all of those seem to be in the same scale.

A refresher for anyone that forgot about the new figures or missed the leak:

Wave 1
TF1 Starscream
TF2 Optimus Prime

Wave 2
TF2 Megatron
TF1 Brawl

Wave 3
TF1 Ironhide

Wave 4
TF2 Starscream

Most likely these are all Voyagers considering the small assortments. They also showed new figures for TF4 Grimlock and TF1 Blackout, but waves weren't given, they might be Leader class.

As for the MB stuff, I'll probably be able to pass on most of it unless they give us something incredible. If Megatron ends up being the first movie leader I can probably pass since I already have the Premium version. Only explanation I can give for Jazz is that he's a smaller character so maybe they feel the Deluxe is his best version?

I could see myself getting Jetfire, but he can't connect to MB-11, right?

Emerje

Emerje, we still arent sure those were new molds and they had an expired date on them.

The movie figures which were new and slated for a later release were a deluxe Jazz, Ratchet, Decepticon Stryker, Stinger and Lockdown.

william-james88 wrote:Emerje, we still arent sure those were new molds and they had an expired date on them.

I did say "believed to be". I figured the dates were typos and meant to be 2018.

Blackout was definitely a new mold that looks nothing like the original Voyager. Grimlock has many details visible in the poor quality image not found on previous figures like the plates and spikes on the dino legs and massive teeth. His bot mode seemed bulkier, too, but that could have been the camera angle. The images for the other figures were too small to make out details, but seeing all of the placeholders used on in the PotP leaks it's hard to confirm anything. Maybe we'll see them at Hascon or maybe they'll be held over for NYCC. All of the leaks came from the same original source so they seem valid.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Emerje, we still arent sure those were new molds and they had an expired date on them.

I did say "believed to be". I figured the dates were typos and meant to be 2018.

Blackout was definitely a new mold that looks nothing like the original Voyager. Grimlock has many details visible in the poor quality image not found on previous figures like the plates and spikes on the dino legs and massive teeth. His bot mode seemed bulkier, too, but that could have been the camera angle. The images for the other figures were too small to make out details, but seeing all of the placeholders used on in the PotP leaks it's hard to confirm anything. Maybe we'll see them at Hascon or maybe they'll be held over for NYCC. All of the leaks came from the same original source so they seem valid.

Emerje

Blackout and Grimlock were certainly new molds, though I thought them to be leaders since they were on a seperate slide from the rest. I was referring to the others, like Ironhide and Starscream. Time will tell.

william-james88 wrote:Blackout and Grimlock were certainly new molds, though I thought them to be leaders since they were on a seperate slide from the rest. I was referring to the others, like Ironhide and Starscream. Time will tell.

Those may be the next masterpieces for the MPM line.

I hope. Because not only would we finally get a Leader Blackout after asking for it for 10 years, but it will be a MP on top of that. Can't wait for the complete reveals!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Blackout and Grimlock were certainly new molds, though I thought them to be leaders since they were on a seperate slide from the rest. I was referring to the others, like Ironhide and Starscream. Time will tell.

Those may be the next masterpieces for the MPM line.

I hope. Because not only would we finally get a Leader Blackout after asking for it for 10 years, but it will be a MP on top of that. Can't wait for the complete reveals!

I wonder about that. Blackout is a big improvement, but he also has some screen inaccuracies like moving the tail and tail rotor to his arms and big square feet. I doubt an MPM would give us feet worse than the original figure.

Still, it wouldn't surprise me if Takara Tomy did work these into the MB line rather than start another line.

Emerje

His tail rotor was on his arm. It was that saw he kept deploying to cut people up with. And his feet were pretty big and squarish on screen. If they do a MP Blackout..... I.... I may have to get him.

Insurgent wrote:His tail rotor was on his arm. It was that saw he kept deploying to cut people up with. And his feet were pretty big and squarish on screen. If they do a MP Blackout..... I.... I may have to get him.

Blackout had two rotors in the movie. One that was permanently stuck to his back, and a duplicate that he wielded in-hand as a weapon.

The one on his back was his main rotors that hung down. His arm one (which we were focused on) was the smaller one from his tail.

Insurgent wrote:The one on his back was his main rotors that hung down. His arm one (which we were focused on) was the smaller one from his tail.

Nuh uh. The two were identical. The one on his tail was a completely different shape.

Click each for full size:

Well I sit corrected. I always thought that was his tail rotor. Where did I get that being his tail rotor from then? I've clearly got an image in my head of him using his tail rotor on his arm. When he spots the laser targetting on his hand. But that's right after the screenshot you posted. I'm confused now.

I'm guessing the use of a second main rotor was a late design change or a huge goof on the animator's part because some of the promotional images showed him like this:



Emerje

I'm so excited about this. I got a the MB 12 which got me over 16k views on Youtube and it was an amazing figure. I'm specifically interested in Megatron, war hammer bumblebee, and lockdown.
megatron - looking forward to more decepticon leaders
bumblebee - too many bumblebees in the toy industry but this will be my last knight version of bumblebee instead of the crappy ones by hasbro.
lockdown - never got it. hopefully it will be better than hasbro and i might consider

is it possible that the war hammer bumblebee is the world war 2 version from the movie. this would mean the reissue one would be the repaint. and the war hammer one would be either a new mold or some changes into the figure

fruityrobo wrote:is it possible that the war hammer bumblebee is the world war 2 version from the movie. this would mean the reissue one would be the repaint. and the war hammer one would be either a new mold or some changes into the figure

Other than accessories, the Movie the Best line doesn't do new molds.

fruityrobo wrote:is it possible that the war hammer bumblebee is the world war 2 version from the movie. this would mean the reissue one would be the repaint. and the war hammer one would be either a new mold or some changes into the figure

Wouldnt the war hammer one be a small BB figure you have to paint yourself?

william-james88 wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:is it possible that the war hammer bumblebee is the world war 2 version from the movie. this would mean the reissue one would be the repaint. and the war hammer one would be either a new mold or some changes into the figure

Wouldnt the war hammer one be a small BB figure you have to paint yourself?

I see what you did there Will

Seriously though, I haven't seen the TLK movie, in what body did Bumblebee have that hammer?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Seriously though, I haven't seen the TLK movie, in what body did Bumblebee have that hammer?

His normal TLK Camaro body.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Seriously though, I haven't seen the TLK movie, in what body did Bumblebee have that hammer?

His normal TLK Camaro body.

The latest one? Odd... or not. By the time that one's released the regular TLK line will be over, so everything goes then.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Seriously though, I haven't seen the TLK movie, in what body did Bumblebee have that hammer?

His normal TLK Camaro body.

The latest one? Odd... or not. By the time that one's released the regular TLK line will be over, so everything goes then.

Yeah, he used the hammer in his fight with Prime as seen in the trailers. Bee doesn't change bodies in the present day scenes of this movie, keeping his most recent body consistently throughout.

He uses the new last knight mold

From the latest Takara Tomy Transformers Movie The Best announcements, we discovered a new version of Revenge of the Fallen Jetfire to be available soon for retail - and thanks to images taken at the Japanese Christmas Toy Fair Expo (and uploaded on response.jp) those images have been mirrored below! Check out the cranky old Decepticon/Autobot below, and let us know what you think.

Hard to tell from these shots how that Jetfire's deco will be different from the ROTF original or the DOTM 2 pack with buster Optimus version.

Definitely a better robot mode (nicer colored plastics and paint apps), but worth $100? Not so sure.

Bounti76 wrote:Definitely a better robot mode (nicer colored plastics and paint apps), but worth $100? Not so sure.

The regular ROTF leader Jetfire sell for between 50$ to 100$ on Ebay. So 100$ for a Premium deco is not too bad. The real question is, is it worth that to you?
For example, I didn't hesitate for a second to buy 6 vintage headmasters from 1986-1987 at 120$CAN+tx each, but I find the TLK movie deluxes way too expensive at 30$CAN+tx. Same thing with TR Octone.

I wonder if he still has the English sound box or a new one in Japanese a la the MB-11 Optimus Prime.

If this is in any way like the movie leader Jetfire, no thanks. That thing was garbage...

DeathReviews wrote:If this is in any way like the movie leader Jetfire, no thanks. That thing was garbage...

It's the same mold.

I too am still hopeful for a new Blackout. That guy was sick.