New Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-17 Prowl and MP-18 Bluestreak Images

Rhinox23 wrote:

sdn1337 wrote:I'll probably wait until hasbro releases these though considering they do more show accurate decos and obviously due to the price.

I think you're taking a very big risk in assuming there will be a Hasbro release. As of now, there is no word on a Sideswipe/Red Alert release and there will soon be no more of the Takara ones either. TFSource said it was getting in its last shipment of Red Alerts and that will be it. Since there has been no mention about these and there has been about Soundwave, they could very well never be seen stateside.

So, Prowl and co. may not make it here either, and do you really want to miss out on their awesomeness? To me, it's not worth the risk. Besides, they'd probably cost $40-$45 here so they're not that much more expensive. Just something to think about.

sdn1337 wrote:I'm pretty sure my last post talking about how takara should release actual pictures of these mps was the same day they released them. I had a feeling they would that day too.

But about the figures. Awesome, great, wonderful, and nice. I can't wait to see how smokescreen is going to look. I'll probably wait until hasbro releases these though considering they do more show accurate decos and obviously due to the price.

I'm more for the show accuracy than the toy accuracy because for the passed couple of months I've watched a majority of G1 (up to the hilarious 3rd season... i dont know why i just find a lot of the episodes comical) and I didn't grow up with those transformers figures.

The only g1 related figure i actually own is the 2003 reissue of Ultra Magnus (with the long missiles due to safety issues) that i got for Christmas that year. It's one of the few figures that i actually have out on one of my shelves considering Ultra Magnus is one of my favorite characters now.

But yeah... figures are sick. Now let's get on with the rest of the G1 cast. I mean EVERYONE.

RAcast wrote:

Rhinox23 wrote:

sdn1337 wrote:I'll probably wait until hasbro releases these though considering they do more show accurate decos and obviously due to the price.

I think you're taking a very big risk in assuming there will be a Hasbro release. As of now, there is no word on a Sideswipe/Red Alert release and there will soon be no more of the Takara ones either. TFSource said it was getting in its last shipment of Red Alerts and that will be it. Since there has been no mention about these and there has been about Soundwave, they could very well never be seen stateside.

So, Prowl and co. may not make it here either, and do you really want to miss out on their awesomeness? To me, it's not worth the risk. Besides, they'd probably cost $40-$45 here so they're not that much more expensive. Just something to think about.

Keeping in mind that the retail number on these is between $80-$100, a $40 IS a lot. Reducing the price by half of what Takara is asking would make them a lot more palatable to most people. You could scream at me all day about "maybe we will, maybe we won't," and I'd just sit here and wait. Because after all, we're more likely to than not to, eventually.

Flashwave wrote:

RAcast wrote:Keeping in mind that the retail number on these is between $80-$100, a $40 IS a lot. Reducing the price by half of what Takara is asking would make them a lot more palatable to most people. You could scream at me all day about "maybe we will, maybe we won't," and I'd just sit here and wait. Because after all, we're more likely to than not to, eventually.

Two words: Licensing Fees

Hasbro's already said 'Swipe was done with Lamborghini's approval, and according to their panel (and don't ask me which one, but I read it on here) that wasn't in their plans at this time. Now, I won't say Never, Hasbro's pulled some doozy surprises in the past, but this isn't as easy a Masterpiece to import over as a generic truck Prime or a Dinosaur shaped Grimlock. Or a tape deck

wewyllenium wrote:I hope their back sides would look somewhat like the cartoon as well.

RAcast wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

RAcast wrote:Keeping in mind that the retail number on these is between $80-$100, a $40 IS a lot. Reducing the price by half of what Takara is asking would make them a lot more palatable to most people. You could scream at me all day about "maybe we will, maybe we won't," and I'd just sit here and wait. Because after all, we're more likely to than not to, eventually.

Two words: Licensing Fees

Hasbro's already said 'Swipe was done with Lamborghini's approval, and according to their panel (and don't ask me which one, but I read it on here) that wasn't in their plans at this time. Now, I won't say Never, Hasbro's pulled some doozy surprises in the past, but this isn't as easy a Masterpiece to import over as a generic truck Prime or a Dinosaur shaped Grimlock. Or a tape deck

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That's my point. I'm probably abnormally patient though. Personally, I'm waiting on the G2 redeco, that'll make it harder to be patient.

Rhinox23 wrote:

sdn1337 wrote:I'll probably wait until hasbro releases these though considering they do more show accurate decos and obviously due to the price.

I think you're taking a very big risk in assuming there will be a Hasbro release. As of now, there is no word on a Sideswipe/Red Alert release and there will soon be no more of the Takara ones either. TFSource said it was getting in its last shipment of Red Alerts and that will be it. Since there has been no mention about these and there has been about Soundwave, they could very well never be seen stateside.

So, Prowl and co. may not make it here either, and do you really want to miss out on their awesomeness? To me, it's not worth the risk. Besides, they'd probably cost $40-$45 here so they're not that much more expensive. Just something to think about.

Rhinox23 wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

RAcast wrote:Keeping in mind that the retail number on these is between $80-$100, a $40 IS a lot. Reducing the price by half of what Takara is asking would make them a lot more palatable to most people. You could scream at me all day about "maybe we will, maybe we won't," and I'd just sit here and wait. Because after all, we're more likely to than not to, eventually.

Two words: Licensing Fees

Hasbro's already said 'Swipe was done with Lamborghini's approval, and according to their panel (and don't ask me which one, but I read it on here) that wasn't in their plans at this time. Now, I won't say Never, Hasbro's pulled some doozy surprises in the past, but this isn't as easy a Masterpiece to import over as a generic truck Prime or a Dinosaur shaped Grimlock. Or a tape deck

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That's my point. I'm probably abnormally patient though. Personally, I'm waiting on the G2 redeco, that'll make it harder to be patient.

I understand what you're saying. I'm just more risk averse than you. And you are more willing to be patient than I am. I realize that from $40 (likely US price) to $80 import price is double. But $40 is not that much money. I don't know if you have MP Sideswipe but he's well worth it in my opinion.

If you are correct, then you will definitely save some money by waiting. However, the risk is that they don't release him stateside. Then, if you want him you'll have to pay ridiculous scalper prices or forego getting him altogether. $120-160?...who knows, but the uncertainty is there. Also, there is no customer service to speak of with scalpers or on ebay. Yes, you could get your money back but they probably won't have nor offer replacements if there is a defect. Again, this is just a risk that I personally am not willing to take. Like I said in my first post, it's just something to think about now while everyone has the option of preordering the Takara version.

Cyberpath wrote:I never heard of them before, are they good?

And is there a way to predict the shipping cost for pre-orders? It appears not.

Deruji wrote:It depends on the weight of the item, which isn't known yet. I would suggest buying from them, even with shipping added you will not get it cheaper anywhere else.

They don't charge for pre-order, so you can still cancel if you change your mind.

Transformers Hoarder wrote:Link to site please.

Blurrz wrote:Courtesy of Cybergundam Blog, we have higher resolution versions of official Masterpiece Datsun images we have seen prior...

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

AutoBorst wrote:SOLD on Prowl. Looks fantastic. I wonder what sort of unique accessory(ies) may be included besides his gun and shoulder rockets?

That's a rather good question. What accessories will these guys and Smokescreen be coming with?

mandingo_rex wrote:This is far from an actual complaint, so it should be taken as a silly comment...

...But I hope before too long we can get an Autobot that isn't red/black/white/blue like a Hound, Bumblebee or Sunstreaker, just to offset the Autobots a tad colorwise. As much as I want Jazz, Ratchet and Ironhide, they're all the same colors as the ones we've gotten already! Haha.

Smokescreen should help a lot (at least helping to dilute the black/white with some more blue), and I guess Rodimus counts with his yellows/oranges, (but I don't display him with the rest of the G1 cast... He'll go with the eventual Galvatron) but my girlfriend pointed it out the other day. "So are the good guys all the same colors? Is that how you tell them apart? Is it like a team thing?"

And from that point on, all I saw was the same colors on all the MP Autobots.

megatronus wrote:These guys look amazing as a group.

But why does Red Alert get no love? His paint job actually came out nice.

SLUGSLINGER81 wrote:

megatronus wrote:These guys look amazing as a group.

But why does Red Alert get no love? His paint job actually came out nice.

I could be wrong but I think they're only trying to display the 1984 line up from the G1 characters or as I call them...the original 18 so I would not be suprised if Takara produces at least the folowing line up* and their subsequent redecos along with the popular characters like Grimlock and Rodimus Prime...may be an Arcee too

* 1984 cast
Optimus Prime
Jazz
Prowl
Bluestreak
Ironhide
Ratchet
Sideswipe
Sunstreaker
Hound
Mirage
Windcharger
Bumblebee
Gears
Huffer
Cliffjumper
Wheeljack
Trailbreaker
Brawn

megatronus wrote:

mandingo_rex wrote:This is far from an actual complaint, so it should be taken as a silly comment...

...But I hope before too long we can get an Autobot that isn't red/black/white/blue like a Hound, Bumblebee or Sunstreaker, just to offset the Autobots a tad colorwise. As much as I want Jazz, Ratchet and Ironhide, they're all the same colors as the ones we've gotten already! Haha.

Smokescreen should help a lot (at least helping to dilute the black/white with some more blue), and I guess Rodimus counts with his yellows/oranges, (but I don't display him with the rest of the G1 cast... He'll go with the eventual Galvatron) but my girlfriend pointed it out the other day. "So are the good guys all the same colors? Is that how you tell them apart? Is it like a team thing?"

And from that point on, all I saw was the same colors on all the MP Autobots.

I was thinking the same thing! Between Prime & TigerTracks, there should be enough color to go around.

mandingo_rex wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mandingo_rex wrote:This is far from an actual complaint, so it should be taken as a silly comment...

...But I hope before too long we can get an Autobot that isn't red/black/white/blue like a Hound, Bumblebee or Sunstreaker, just to offset the Autobots a tad colorwise. As much as I want Jazz, Ratchet and Ironhide, they're all the same colors as the ones we've gotten already! Haha.

Smokescreen should help a lot (at least helping to dilute the black/white with some more blue), and I guess Rodimus counts with his yellows/oranges, (but I don't display him with the rest of the G1 cast... He'll go with the eventual Galvatron) but my girlfriend pointed it out the other day. "So are the good guys all the same colors? Is that how you tell them apart? Is it like a team thing?"

And from that point on, all I saw was the same colors on all the MP Autobots.

I was thinking the same thing! Between Prime & TigerTracks, there should be enough color to go around.

Ah, I forget about TigerTracks, since I don't plan to get him. I don't count him, though, as he's not technically a vintage G1 Autobot. But exactly, just that yellow helps to break things up.

I'm all for any of the G1 Season 1 Autobots first, as those are some of my favorites. Besides the obvious repaints of the S1 cars and trucks, the only others I'm really looking forward to see as MPs are Tracks, the rest of the Dinobots, and Ultra Magnus in full-on armor. (I guess Grimlock's silver/grays help break up the monotony of the red/black/white/blue MP Autobots, too... An entire Dinobots team would kick ass!)

At this point though, any and all G1 MP Autobots are a guaranteed buy, whatever order they come in.

xyl360 wrote:Till all are MINE !
I can't wait to see who's next .

Sinnertwin wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Till all are MINE !
I can't wait to see who's next .

Ditto.
To hazard a guess, with Nissan on board, I'd say an Ironhide's on the way.
There's a potential four repaints right there.

xyl360 wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Till all are MINE !
I can't wait to see who's next .

Ditto.
To hazard a guess, with Nissan on board, I'd say an Ironhide's on the way.
There's a potential four repaints right there.

Yes, MP Ironhide and Ratchet would be super sweet (especially since I didn't get the PP05 PE figures).

Blurrz wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Till all are MINE !
I can't wait to see who's next .

Ditto.
To hazard a guess, with Nissan on board, I'd say an Ironhide's on the way.
There's a potential four repaints right there.

Yes, MP Ironhide and Ratchet would be super sweet (especially since I didn't get the PP05 PE figures).

What are the other two repaints?
<-- G1 noob

Arctorro wrote:I decided to bite the bullet and order these two through hlj.com. Never bought anything from them before for two reasons; 1) don't get much in the way of Takara figures (except MP) 2) their site was a bitch to navigate.

The site seems to have been improved and for the first time something I searched for appeared So made an account and pre-ordered (cancelling my BBTS pre-orders at the same time) and will most likely get Smokescreen from them if all goes well. Depending on how this goes I just might be getting all my MP's from them seeing as the shipping on one of these guys is a little less than the price difference for the imports U.S. retailers are charging.

Arctorro wrote:I decided to bite the bullet and order these two through hlj.com. Never bought anything from them before for two reasons; 1) don't get much in the way of Takara figures (except MP) 2) their site was a bitch to navigate.

The site seems to have been improved and for the first time something I searched for appeared So made an account and pre-ordered (cancelling my BBTS pre-orders at the same time) and will most likely get Smokescreen from them if all goes well. Depending on how this goes I just might be getting all my MP's from them seeing as the shipping on one of these guys is a little less than the price difference for the imports U.S. retailers are charging.

xyl360 wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Till all are MINE !
I can't wait to see who's next .

Ditto.
To hazard a guess, with Nissan on board, I'd say an Ironhide's on the way.
There's a potential four repaints right there.

Yes, MP Ironhide and Ratchet would be super sweet (especially since I didn't get the PP05 PE figures).

What are the other two repaints?
<-- G1 noob

I'm guessing he's referring to the eHobby/Diaclone repaints (which would likely show up as exclusives just like Tigertracks did).

Cyberpath wrote:But HLJ offers 3 different shipping options, and before I pre-ordered the Nissanbots yesterday I put a few in-stock Transformers in my cart to see what shipping to my state might cost.


Bluestreak accessory?